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The Numbers That Matter: $15,564,809,891,768 And $8.354 Billion

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Without wasting our readers' time, here are the only two numbers that matter today:

  1. $15,564,809,891,767.99 - This is how high record US federal debt is as of today. Although "record" and "US debt" in the same sentence is now redundant. So just debt. (source)
  2. $8.354 billion. This is how much net US tax revenues (net of refunds of course) are lower in fiscal 2012 to date compared to the same period in 2011. In this Bizarro world, economic recovery is apparently based on weaker numbers (source).

The chart below proves without doubt that converting one well-paying job into two jobs that combined pay less, is uber bullish for stocks.

 

 

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Fri, 03/16/2012 - 17:12 | 2263400 Ahmeexnal
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CORZINE 2012

MAKE HIM VISIBLE

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 18:06 | 2263425 TruthInSunshine
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Friday afternoon optimism - There's good news. You just have to know where to look.

The wheels of statist control are already coming off. Be hopeful. Would you have thought, assuming that you had been aware of what The Federal Reserve really is and represents, that animus towards and awareness of The Federal Reserve would grow like it has, a mere decade ago?

Escape velocity has already been reached at this point. The more they accelerate the actions that got us to where we are, the faster they kill the present system.

Robert David Steele (not a 'tin foiler': I dare anyone here to defy what he has to say at link below) predicted everything that's happening (he's not a 'savior' or 'prophet' - he's a former CIA & Military Intelligence Officer who founded The U.S. Marine Corps Intelligence Center).

He accurately predicted that intelligence services are coming after bloggers (years ago), because 80% of 'intelligence activity' is merely interpreting patterns, that bloggers and their readers have already sparked the next revolution (in whatever form it takes), and that central banks will fall. Gird your servers well, bitchez.

If you or people you talk to doubt that the U.S. form of government (a Republic - a form of representative government limited/constrained by the rule of constitutional law) is in serious jeopardy, you only need cite NDAA 2012 as proof [assuming the final check & balance that is the Supreme Court doesn't overturn it at first chance]. You don't need cite anything else, though you could find and cite much.

Check out what he says about Operation Trailblazer, Iraq, how congressman mapped out the exact cost that it would take lobbyists to 'buy' the U.S. government back in the 1990's, precisely what the role of The Federal Reserve is, and how incredibly clear and simple the solutions to what ails the CITIZENS of the United States and world are, and I challenge anyone to tell me or anyone else how and/or why, with specifics, he's wrong.

[Remember that the percentage of the population that needs to be aware is a fairly low threshold, historically around 3% (III) or so]:

 

Former CIA Agent's Message to America

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 18:35 | 2263685 newengland
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TruthInSunshine,

You are one of the standard bearers for the new media expose, in my opinion. I enjoy everything you write. Your honest desire to keep up to date, yet write within historical context and integrity, is truly rare and admirable. You are a gift to anyone who seeks truth, and sunshine...our better days ahead if we seek the light of truth instead of serve the dark forces.

End the Fed, an alien transplant from the Bank of England, the Rothschilds, and their shadow world government The Trilateral Commission and its recruiting/marketing arm The Bilderberg Group.

The silly ambitious career politicians are easily manipulated by these psychopathic corporatists, and their warped fascist aim of a 'new world order, ruled by the globalist central bank cartel of New Feudalists, aided by their appointed 'intelligentsia' in national government, academia and law.

Filth, they are all filth, and the NDAA cynically signed on New Year's Eve 2012 is similiar to the founding of the unconstitutional privately owned 'Federal Reserve Board', signed into law at Christmas 1913 after a grateful political pet Wilson returned the favour for their campaign funds which made him U.S. President, although he lived to write about his lament that he had unwittingly betrayed his country, and independent political action was no longer possible because those who issue the 'credit' (The Fed, the old banking class of Britain and Europe, the Rothschilds et al) had absolute control over the nation.

Politics would be their toy henceforth, and so his lament has proved to be true.

End the Fed.

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 23:54 | 2264347 TruthInSunshine
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Thank you for the high praise.

I don't feel it's warranted.

 

There is a simple truth that more people are awakening to at a rate that's faster than at anytime prior in history:  Any economic system using money as debt, and especially under the framework of fractional reserve lending practices, contains the very seed of its own death, at the moment of inception, as it is inherently & factually (as a matter of basic arithmetic) unsustainable.

We have already passed the point where real wealth can be created in greater amounts or at a faster clip than it is being consumed/destroyed. This is precisely the reason why the gold standard of backing fiat currency was abandoned (any resource having inherent value could have been substituted for gold; gold just happens to be compact, quite finite and it stores well; they could have had an oil standard or a platinum standard or even a copper standard).

All that is happening now is can-kicking exercises to allow those able to access fiat backed by nothing of value, conjured from thin air, enjoying legal monopoly status (making it liquid and accepted universally), to convert their paper to things of real value, before the inevitable collapse of currency (pick whatever fiat currency you like; they're all in a state of massive regression to zero).

I chose my avatar (End the Fed) because there is no commonly denoted symbol for full reserve banking (the antithesis to fractional reserve banking), which would force discipline and balance upon economies, as it would restrain the fiat gaming and inevitable impoverishment of the bulk of the population through fractional reserve banking practices.

Here's a very good clip to enjoy that speaks to what I'm referencing:

 

Money As Debt
Sat, 03/17/2012 - 04:47 | 2264546 newengland
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TruthinSunshine,

Me off to zzzzzz now, but must say this: it is warranted. You are an absolute darling. I'll read that link tomorrow. 

Have a lovely weekend, 'truthinsunshine'. Thank you for the information, as per usual.

Sat, 03/17/2012 - 09:57 | 2264713 Pinto Currency
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The focus on Federal Debt is to some extent a distraction.

The US is being crushed by $54 trillion of federal, state, municipal, corporate, and consumer debt.  The $15 trillion federal debt is only a portion of the debt monstrosity created by the Federal Reserve and the banking system.

Time for a write down and sound money:

http://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/z1/current/z1r-4.pdf

http://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/z1/current/

Sat, 03/17/2012 - 10:19 | 2264744 It was not me
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We are pretty muched fucked. On Friday I just went all in and shorted USD against everything on my Armada Markets trading account. All muppets, sorry, all Goldman Sachs clients can take the either side of this trade.

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 17:12 | 2263404 Irelevant
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Exponential growth bitchez!

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 21:25 | 2264098 BoNeSxxx
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i just logged in looking for today's friday humor  i thought there was none today until i saw td's keyword for this post.  you are getting subtle in your old age tyler

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 17:13 | 2263405 RmcAZ
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$200 - What oil will be priced at shortly.

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 17:13 | 2263406 tekhneek
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.99, hahaha. That's hilarious. Just round that fucker up. Not like it's going to make a fucking dent or anything.

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 17:18 | 2263433 debtor of last ...
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Maybe that's where it stopped?

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 17:19 | 2263434 dwdollar
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Yeah really. Ten thousand is spent in the time it takes to write this sentence.

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 17:26 | 2263463 Elijah Craig 18
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The .99 is there to remind all the 99% that they will be ultimately responsible for "paying off" this pile of shit.

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 22:56 | 2264286 tickhound
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lol .99.  As if we're getting "a good deal" or something.

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 17:13 | 2263408 TMT
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Aren't all charts that go up to the right bullish?

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 17:20 | 2263438 Tsar Pointless
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Why, yes - yes, they are!

Thank you for asking.

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 17:14 | 2263414 Nolsgrad
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Can you buy calls on USA Debt numbers yet? It's gotta be a sure thing.

Sat, 03/17/2012 - 00:20 | 2264383 shuckster
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Gold tracks national debt. National debt tracks tax receipts - as the IRS collects more taxes, the Fed is willing to issue more debt - thus devaluing the dollar and driving up the price of gold - so if you are bullish on US debt, buy calls on GLD or physical gold with your cash...

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 17:15 | 2263416 drchris
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You need to seasonally adjust your expectations.

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 17:16 | 2263421 Xibalba
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Are these #'s seasonally adjusted?  

 

 

 

sarc

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 17:18 | 2263431 Sleepless Knight
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It truley doesnt matter any more. We cant pay it back. It doesnt matter how far you are in debt if you cant pay the minimum. Adding more debt will not stop the collapse, it will not make it happen anytime sooner. When intrest rates rise - we cant pay the minimum. Dollar game over.

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 17:26 | 2263458 dwdollar
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Oh it'll get paid. You better believe that. The Dollar just won't be worth anything.

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 18:34 | 2263691 TMT
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That's why I hope it blows up sooner rather than later.  I would rather take the pain than our kids who didn't have a say in the ponzi (not that we really did either but to fuck the kids is just crazy).

Pull of the bandaid and let's begin the repair.

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 17:20 | 2263439 Spitzer
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All worse numbers then the Euro zone but "the dollar is still the best of the big currencies" yyeah right 

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 17:26 | 2263459 Ahmeexnal
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do you have any effin clue about how demographics come into account in the sustainability of a ponzi?

 

 

Sat, 03/17/2012 - 07:52 | 2264633 RoadKill
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No where near as bad as Europe. Not that this means its good just dont underestimate how bad Europe is.

The $15t includes nearly $3t owed to social security. Europes debt numbers dont. Pensions over there are generally pay as you go and are 100% unfunded. This is a big deal for their corporations too. They dont have big pension assets to draw on.

Demographics are 20 years ahead of US. We still have population growth over here thanks to immigration. Ponzi scheme that is SS should last 20 years longer then Europe.

Taxes as a % of GDP are less then 20% here vs nearly 50% in places like France. We can raise taxes to keep the system solvent. FRANCE cant.

We have already refinanced our banks and have taken a hit for Fannie and Freddie. IE our debt gaurantees are mainly on the books. Europrs arent. Just look at Greeces E100bbn of explicit debt gaurantees for nationalized industries like the RR. And add to that another E50bbn to ptop up their banks.

On an spples to apples basis US debt to GDP is 100% vs 125%+ in Europe.

Sat, 03/17/2012 - 17:27 | 2265626 Spitzer
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hahaha, refinanced  our banks... What a joke. We printed money, nothing else. Europe as a whole is a net creditor with NO TRADE DEFICIT. The US's forex reseerves would barely cover one months trade deficit 

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 17:24 | 2263450 SimpleandConfused
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Much ado about... something?  No matter the ZH headlines, seems to us simple and confused people that nothing ever really happens.  Slow and steady as she goes... and on she goes.  And on.  And on.  And on.

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 17:28 | 2263470 Clint Liquor
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And on.  And on.  And on.

Until it doesn't.

 

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 17:26 | 2263453 Jlmadyson
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So less than 900 billion before the debt ceiling bomb cometh. They better hope for less of those $50 billion jump days going forward or it will be a lot sooner rather than later. Sept likely and October at the latest.

The fall political bomb is right on track.

Sat, 03/17/2012 - 00:43 | 2264403 Kali
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i heard that wars cost a lot.  Piece of cake!

Sat, 03/17/2012 - 07:54 | 2264635 RoadKill
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Have you seen any good analysis on when we will pass the debt ceiling taking into account treasury options. Will it be preelection?

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 17:26 | 2263460 nestle
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who cares about debts when DOW is making new high!

LONG LIVE THE DOW!!

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 18:41 | 2263721 Caviar Emptor
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DOW is kinda like US Dick Length. 

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 17:26 | 2263461 Clint Liquor
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"Numbers suck, there's just too many of them."

Bevis & Butthead

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 17:36 | 2263493 kito
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rumor has it that Watsons computation abilities may be matched by the sheer enormity of the u.s. debt............

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 17:42 | 2263511 Contura
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I googoled both numbers. USA came up on both of them.

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 17:40 | 2263515 boiltherich
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Yo, please add on another $6.239 bil for our share of the IMF bailout of Greece approved this week. 

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 17:42 | 2263523 Sudden Debt
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Come on!. Make it 16 trillion!!!

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 17:58 | 2263583 CompassionateFascist
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OK: add on the 5-7 trillion of rotten paper parked at FM&FM: $22,000,000,000,000.

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 18:09 | 2263610 Sudden Debt
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I was just thinking we would just wait 3 more months for that 16 trillion...
BUT I LIKE YOUR MATH EVEN MORE!!!!

Sat, 03/17/2012 - 00:08 | 2264365 Yen Cross
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 I haven't taken the time, to thank you. Sudden Debt...

  Thank You. I'm Grateful for your insight,. You inspired me to post on Z/H.

     Have a  Great Weekend , Sudden Debt.

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 17:42 | 2263525 leathaface
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if you are holding gold and silver, those numbers should give you a woody! (or make you wet downstairs, for the ladies here)

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 18:41 | 2263719 thatthingcanfly
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There are some matters within which gender neutrality is destructive, rather than constructive.

Sat, 03/17/2012 - 14:58 | 2265192 Flagit
Fri, 03/16/2012 - 17:44 | 2263533 Belarusian Bull
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State is truly an abomination.

I bet you guys laugh as hard at your official numbers in USA as i do here in Belarus.

There  is an old soviet joke :

-We are now living better! - the state said.

-We are happy for you. - the people replied.

 

 

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 17:56 | 2263575 CompassionateFascist
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Or (Poland): "they pretend to pay us. we pretend to work"

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 18:08 | 2263606 magpie
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Revolution proclaims a centrally planned economy in the Sahara Desert.

nothing happens.

few months later, a sand shortage.

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 18:15 | 2263624 Dingleberry
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What's a few trillion amongst friends?

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 23:22 | 2264317 Winston Churchill
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Who cares its OPM.

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 18:22 | 2263634 Caviar Emptor
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Econ 102: Principles Of Biflationary Economics -

Prof Caviar - (2 credits and 3 debits)

 

All together, class: 

Tax revenues?

Down!    ....due to deflating real economy

Federal deficit?

Up!       ....causing artificially elevated costs to businesses (margin squeeze) and consumers

Net Net??

Lose-Lose!!  .....as buying power gets crushed

 

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 18:23 | 2263651 newengland
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Caviar Emptor,

Happy weekend to your, and yours. The tide is turning. Those who swim naked will be stripped of their credibility. Good. Uncle Warren included.

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 18:29 | 2263671 Caviar Emptor
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Tip o the hat to you @ newengland. Yup, everybody's a muppet unless they take the red pill

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 18:37 | 2263704 TMT
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Uncle Warren has been swimming naked for a while, that's why his #1 investment now is to buy access in DC.  He knows he's fucked when it blows up.

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 18:21 | 2263641 newengland
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At moments like this, I just love this Fight Club. Get straight to the point. Excellent.

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 18:31 | 2263678 TMT
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I would like your input on this (or perhaps TD will do an article on it):  We all know the ponzi will collapse, but as TD correctly points out the timing of any trade is the critical issue.  So ... what signs would you look at for the inevitable collapse?  Realize you are fighting the fed, which is always a lopsided battle, but even with all of their "tools" it will crack at some point.  So what is the best tell that it's around the corner?  Bad bond auctions, rising interest rates, a PIIG blows up, etc.??

Thanks for the input.

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 19:06 | 2263782 CompassionateFascist
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Oil at >$200/barrel------->global dollar dump----------->US hyperinflation------------->PonziCollapse. Coming soon, via IranWar. Over on the Israeli Cabinet war vote thread, somone posted info on 4 US minesweepers now being shipped to the Theatre of Operations. That is the Sign.

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 20:22 | 2263955 boiltherich
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$1.59 can of solid white tuna (6 ounces) last fall, $2.59 in the same size and shape can but read the label, 5 ounces the rest is water, results= up just not quite 100% in 6 months. 

The price of protein in my local Slaveway is all I need to know. 

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 18:32 | 2263679 Physicist
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The plot's missing label for the horizontal axis is microlightseconds, and the vertical axis is Uranus radii.

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 18:39 | 2263713 TMT
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I know what Ben's ultimate solution is:  simply switch our number convention to the Euro system ... switch the commas and periods and all is solved.

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 19:02 | 2263777 newengland
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Well spotted, TMT.

That was called decimilisation when it happened in Britain, changing from the guniea to the pound; and it was called the euro when changing from national currencies. Every time, it profits the banksters and makes the people poorer, including the financial industry which mistakenly thinks that it is immune from the silent thief of inflation and fiat money manipulation.

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 18:49 | 2263737 slewie the pi-rat
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if these numbers no longer seem unreasonable...

...that's stockholm syndrome, right? 

can we get meds for this shit?  my kids are pissed i didn't explain banking to them while they were younger...

@ t_k:  he rounded it up for the headline, at least!

tyler:  keep drinking!

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 19:01 | 2263775 Clint Liquor
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If the above chart is true, why has there been consistent net outflow from Mutual Funds for the past 3 years?

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 19:50 | 2263879 Yen Cross
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I agree with you. The [charlatan], answer would be ETF's. We both know how small that doorway is getting!

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 19:46 | 2263867 lizzy36
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Last 14 months US gained (according to BLS) 2.2m jobs.

Now, holding constant for payroll tax cut which took place on Jan 1, 2011, tax revenues YTD 2012 are exactly $13B higher than 2011. Approximately 6% higher. Plus we have an extra day in 2012.

How does this even make sense?

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 21:05 | 2264053 Kali
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It was just a ploy so the Feds could stop sending the States $$$ for long term  unemployed.

http//www.postandcourier.com/news/2012/mar/16/fed-jobless-aid-ending-80000-sc-....

Gonna be a rough summer.

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 19:51 | 2263874 Yen Cross
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 Why is it the " numbers" that matter , are the ones nobody want's to discuss? The U.S. debt issue is like a "politician {male}", waiting for the results of an " intern {females'}",  EPT test in the Senate Locker Room <>

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 20:18 | 2263947 Heroic Couplet
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Take oil out off speculation. Observe the price of oil to see if it falls. Love the quote from the other 99%: if you took greed out of Wall Street all you'd have left is the pavement. rotfl

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 21:20 | 2264088 Yen Cross
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 The numbers that count.-.-.-.-.-.-.-._>----------) Did the 16 Trillion $ bullet leave my head yet?

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 21:36 | 2264118 Pumpkin
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Just wait until the real economy turns into a black market.

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 21:37 | 2264122 BLOTTO
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What/when will be the bre/aking point?

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 21:38 | 2264123 Olympia
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Something serious should have taken place, so that the “Superpower" owes 15.5 trillion dollars. Such a "broke superpower" has never been before. The world has never seen before "World rulers" who surrender to pain because cancer medication costs. World rulers, who, when they lose their jobs, go straight to the “garbage”, have never existed not even in the years of Genghis Khan. There should be a problem somewhere and that’s what we are seeking. It’s not possible for someone to eat night and day and to risk dying of malnutrition. It is obviously that this person is severely “ill" and that’s what threatens him with death. This is the case in USA. They take advantage the resources of the whole planet and they have “managed" to be threatened today with bankruptcy. They are doing something wrong. Something is wrong in their “organism”. Some internal "cancerous" agent "sucks" all their inflow and lets them crawl to "death".

http://eamb-ydrohoos.blogspot.com/2012/01/global-debt-crisis.html

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Fri, 03/16/2012 - 22:22 | 2264223 cnhedge
Fri, 03/16/2012 - 22:50 | 2264276 tickhound
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These numbers seem small to me, bitchez.

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 23:48 | 2264340 John Wilmot
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Sat, 03/17/2012 - 00:53 | 2264412 Yen Cross
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 A lot of women are posting.  That scares me.

Sat, 03/17/2012 - 01:00 | 2264414 oldman
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Tyler,

What is all of this nonsense?

What is your point in printing this?

And how do so many people on this site know so much and the rest of the world so little?

And what is the story with gold and silver----out of fashion when everyone here is stacking?

We are the really smart people                               om

Sat, 03/17/2012 - 01:28 | 2264435 mikem54321
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Did someone else do the math?....Tyler said $8B less in 2012 compared to 2011. It appears to me it is $30B more in 2012 compared to 2011. Or about 3% higher taxes collected this fiscal year-to-date. Can anyone else verify Tyler's error? Or am I missing something?

Sat, 03/17/2012 - 20:53 | 2266105 Dasa Slooofoot
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I'm confused on which numbers Tyler is using also. 

Is he using Table IV-Fed Tax Deposits total? 

Because if that is the case i'm getting what mikem is getting, nearly 30 billion increase. 

Here is the fiscal 2011 data upto march 15th. 

https://fms.treas.gov/fmsweb/viewDTSFiles?dir=a&fname=11031500.pdf

Sat, 03/17/2012 - 02:24 | 2264470 Yen Cross
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  I guess the "West Coast" is more delusional? TYLER?

Sat, 03/17/2012 - 04:13 | 2264522 lolmao500
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Debt for fiscal year starting October 1 2011 till March 15 2012 : 774.46 billion or 4.66 billion/day ($15.04/day/citizen) or ($1.705 trillion deficit)
Debt for calendar year 2012 till March 15 2012 : 341.87 billion or 4.56 billion/day ($14.70/day/citizen) ($1.668 trillion deficit)
Current debt as of March 15 2012 : 15.564 trillion
Current debt ceiling : 14.694 trillion (first phase) 15.194 trillion (second phase) 16.694 trillion (final phase)

At the current average rate of 4.61 billion in new debt/day (or about $14.87 in new debt per day for every citizen in America...and that is just federal) it will take about 245 days before reaching the final phase of the debt ceiling hike, so around November 15, 2012.

US GDP : 15.294 trillion Q4 2011
US debt : 15.564 trillion

Total debt to GDP ratio : 101.76%

And that of course is if the spending curve remains the same... which it probably won't since Israel will start a war against Iran before the election... and banks might need another bailout or they might pass another stimulus and they will stop the defense budget cuts.

Sat, 03/17/2012 - 05:44 | 2264580 Olympia
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...Simple things happening all over Europe in exactly the same way. It was the same loansharking Goldman Sachs, that was financing the European Investment Bank and “connived" with Simitis the fiscal data of Greece, so that ECB would be justified to buy Greek bonds using Goldman Sachs money, so that Bobolas could undertake the overcost public works ...Bobolas, who was a Goldman Sachs’ partner ...it's a self-serving behavior ...and who pays for it? Fools of course! After the fall of the Berlin Wall, the loan sharks’ “trashes” have “flooded” Europe.

This was the whole trick! Simple, quick and with minimum risk. They corrupted the political leaders of the European Union and they “flattened” everything. All these beasts –Pronti or Barroso- under the auspices of the loan sharks took important posts in the European mechanisms. Using the cheap borrowed dollars of Germany, they “printed” the cheap ECB Euro in Frankfurt. Using these cheap Euro they grasped the expensive Euro of the countries and turned it into debts. They eliminated the Euro securities and all that was left in the market was the Euro bonds. Euro value was stored in the ECB vaults and the countries were left with debts. That was the “game”!

American loan sharks represented now the international “Market”. But they needed the “umbilical cord” that connected them with the USA to arrange their “prints” as far as the accounting was concerned. ECB lent huge amounts of money to the European countries, because theoretically it has borrowed these corresponding amounts from the USA. It lent the “photocopies” borrowed by the FED at the price of real money. The American “pump” has started “blowing up” Europe using Frankfurt as its “valve”. Do you understand the reason why the European Union, even though it had a common currency, it did not function as a real "super-country” but as an “association” of independent national states?

http://eamb-ydrohoos.blogspot.com/2012/01/global-debt-crisis.html

People should start getting ready for great trials ...for International Courts, where the current loan sharks shall give account. Monetarism criminals should sit on the same benches that once sat Nazi criminals. Rothschild, Rockefeller, Greenspan, Bernanke, Trichet, Soros, Buffett –and other “kids” of the loan sharking- should not sleep calmly from this point on. So, should also do their Quisling-type partners ...all the traitors who undertook power supported by the Monetarists and exercised leadership at the expense of their people ...Merkel, Sarkozy, Barroso, Zapatero, Papandreou and others.
 
The world is getting “awake” from “narcosis” and pity to the one who shall be found to have made the wrong at the wrong time ...pity to the who “sedated” them to “rape” them ...pity to the one who shall be found holding the criminal “tube” ...pity to the one who threatened the future of the human kind.

Sat, 03/17/2012 - 06:05 | 2264593 virgilcaine
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Tyler no problem!.. They will "Grow" their way out of it.. ie print.. print, which is why China is dumping dollars like a bad habit.

Sat, 03/17/2012 - 07:15 | 2264619 LULZBank
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Hyper-inflating the debt away - How does that work?

I mean from what I understand, everytime the Fed prints money and loans to the US Govt, the US debt increases. So the more you print the more the debt increases. Debt does not go away?!

Sat, 03/17/2012 - 07:31 | 2264624 Dre4dwolf
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At what point does the National Debt become too big to service?

IE: at what point will the interest payments serpass the point where collecting taxes to pay off any portion of it becomes insane and tax payers fight back and stop paying?

I think within a few years they might have to actually raise the min wage to like 100$ just to pay the debt off (to collect enough wookie dollars from taxes to keep the story going).

Sat, 03/17/2012 - 12:36 | 2264961 Snakeeyes
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Don't forget to add in the $8 trillion in Fannie, Freddie, FHLB debt too! It is defacto Federal government debt! Albeit low yielding.

http://confoundedinterest.wordpress.com/2012/03/17/even-blue-fin-tuna-has-a-higher-return-than-agency-mortgage-backed-securities/

Sat, 03/17/2012 - 13:01 | 2264995 robertocarlos
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That's like if you owe 15k to the bank and you earned 8 bucks less so far this year. No big deal. You are pulling in 120k a year aren't you?

Sat, 03/17/2012 - 13:28 | 2265037 carbon based unit
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an interesting exercise i just performed out of sheer curiosity:  i went to --

http://www.ows.doleta.gov/unemploy/claims.asp

-- and pulled down the data from 2011 through 2012, and then grabbed only the SA and NSA initial claims for roughly the last six months [10/1 - 2/18, inclusive; i know, its only a little less than five months; thats all thats offered for the period i was looking at] and dropped into a spreadsheet.  totalled the columns and added one that subratcted SAs from NSAs; that is, positive numbers result from NSA being higher each week and negative numbers from the SA being a higher number for weekly initial claims.  a couple of the results were ... interesting.  for that period, seasonally adjusted, 8,066,000 people filed initial unemployment insurance claims.  non-seasonally adjusted the number rises [big surprise, that] to 8,968,361.  

the 'difference' between the two is 902,261.  in other words, nearly one million more people filed for claims but were seasonally adjusted out of existence [or at least, out of awareness] for that period of time for a discrepancy of over eleven percent for the period.

so ... i decided to try again.  this time october 2010 to mid february 2011 [10-2-10 thru 2-19-11] and the numbers didn't change much at all.  8,996,000 SAs, 9,997,546 NSAs for a difference of 1,001,546 and pretty consistent at 11%.  in fact the percentage difference was almost identical but there were 'only' about 100k [99185] more filings for the period last year than this year. for the period there were 90% so many initial claims as there were last year, or less than 5000 more [average] per week last year than this over the course of those 21 weeks.

don't ask me what it all proves.  happy saturday

 

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