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Obama On America's Drought: Blame Congress

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Last week Obama insinuated that in the aftermath of the "amazing" post-bankruptcy GM recovery, his next plan is to bailout, well, everyone: "I believe in American workers, I believe in this American industry, and now the American auto industry has come roaring back... Now I want to do the same thing with manufacturing jobs, not just in the auto industry, but in every industry." Also, as it appears, the Bailout'er-In-Chief has taken the saying "make it rain" a little too close to heart, and is now taking the worst drought in decades as a personal central planning challenge. Just because he can. There is one thing preventing him for bailing out US farmers: that thing apparently is evil congress. From his weekly address: "This is an all hands on deck response...  But my administration can't do it alone. Congress needs to do its part too. They need to pass a farm bill that not only helps farmers and ranchers respond to these kinds of disasters, but also makes necessary reforms and gives them certainly year round.... So call your members of congress, write them an email and tell them that now is the time to come together and get this done. Too many Americans are suffering right now to let politics get in the way." All righty then GOP - you heard the president: stop blocking the man who would end the drought if not for your disturbing lack of faith, and vote promptly for "Let's All Make It Rain: It's Only Fair" bill. How else can the systematic bailout of everyone and everything proceed as planned?

 


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Sun, 08/12/2012 - 18:59 | Link to Comment Precious
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You're fired !

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:07 | Link to Comment strannick
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"pass a farm bill that not only helps farmers and ranchers respond to these kinds of disasters, but also makes necessary reforms and gives them certainty year round"

-yeah, like farmers know any certainty. Now the democrats can decree rain. ObamaVision can control the elements and guarantee security and welfare for all.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:08 | Link to Comment A Lunatic
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A plague of locusts would be more helpful than more political "reform"............

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:10 | Link to Comment Manthong
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“All righty then GOP - you heard the president.. Let's All Make It Rain”..

The whole GOP should get together and take a group leak on the front steps of 1600 Pennsylvania.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:11 | Link to Comment knukles
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You didn't make that drought all by yourself.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:16 | Link to Comment Temporalist
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Rick Perry and those crazy christians tried to pray for rain.  That didn't work out so well. 

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:33 | Link to Comment Pladizow
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The drought would be one thing Obummer was right about me not building!

Perhaps China has a HAARP facility of their own?

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:56 | Link to Comment slewie the pi-rat
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look!

a seagull! 

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:30 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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Oh don't go there...

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:08 | Link to Comment Bananamerican
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ZH Intelligentsia vote here

Right wing partisan dipshits vote here

 

this is another hysterical, right wing Obama s(hit) piece....partisan hyperbole.

Why? The man has so much other actual bullshit you can call him out on...

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:17 | Link to Comment economics9698
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All this mother fucker knows is print, print, print.  He makes me fucking sick.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:41 | Link to Comment Tom Green Swedish
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More SNAP cards on the way.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 23:45 | Link to Comment SilverIsKing
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The answer to the drought will not be found in the Oval Office or in Congress.  One only need to look at John Boehner's tear ducts for the solution.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 00:51 | Link to Comment Yes We Can. But...
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Yes We Can bail out the world...But Let's Not.

Barack Obama is a freakin jackass, a feckless, sophomoric boob.

He is not only the ideological spawn of Frank Marshall Davis, I suspect he is the biological spawn of Frank Marshall Davis as well.  The guy is hoax incarnate.

He is also headed back to Chicago in January, which is where he belongs.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 04:51 | Link to Comment krispkritter
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Coming soon to a government near you; FarmCare and WeatherCare...and They don't Care whether you want it or not...

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 05:37 | Link to Comment AldousHuxley
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social security history:

 

1937:    2%

1950:   3%

1956:    4%

1961:    6%

1972:     9.2%

1977:   9.9%

1983:    10.8%

1984:    11.4%

1993:    12.4%

yes. you pay 12.4% for social security because you pay 6.2% and your employer pays 6.2% which of course they take into calculation in your paycheck (lower)

 

politicians are likely to kick the can down the road by increasing taxes to 18%

 

cut the payments to boomers now who wasted their money on made in china junk.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 07:02 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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It can't rain. Cass Sunstein has gone back to Harvard....not sure why. The last czar in charge of rain was Cass.

 

Can't Obama just sign an executive order and make it rain? At least truck in some Brawndo......it has electrolytes.....which plants crave.

 

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 01:15 | Link to Comment Lore
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Wrong 'wing,' not that such simplistic epithets matter much anymore...

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 01:31 | Link to Comment Overfed
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Do you actually have a point? Oh wait, O'pimp has endless $$ to bail out everybody. He can just have the Chairsatan print some more funbux and buy the farmers some rain, right?

Jeezus I hate getting drawn into the whole left v. right thing, but are all leftist this stupid?

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 06:05 | Link to Comment AldousHuxley
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austerity including privatizing social security is to make room for the real deal.....WAR WITH IRAN

http://kucinich.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=42687

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Freedom_and_Support_Act

Kucinich Speaks Out Against House Bill That Lays The Ground Work For War Against Iran
Leads House Opposition To HR 282

 

 

oh and for that Republicans re-drew his district's boundaries to get him kicked out of congress....by fellow DEMOCRATS...

 

both democrats and republicans want WAR....to keep their power.

 


 

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:39 | Link to Comment old naughty
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The "Rainmaker-in-Chief" should ask Congress to fund a pipeline from Zhejiang, China.

So much rain.

http://english.cntv.cn/special/haikui/homepage/index.shtml

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 22:04 | Link to Comment nmewn
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Don't give him anymore unworkable ideas...he's got a full plate ;-)

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:58 | Link to Comment delacroix
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china needs to buy a lot of food

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 09:46 | Link to Comment Abiotic Oil
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"Perhaps China has a HAARP facility of their own?"

It is well known the Russians have had weather control tech for many decades and were even selling it after the Soviet collapse.  The US has it too of course.

If the slow-kill cocktail of high fructose corn syrup, prescription "medication", artificial sweetener, contaminated drinking water, GMO poison isn't working fast enough then it can always be hastened along with a nice drought to decimate the crops.  It also has the added benefit of getting the remaining family owned farmers off their lands and getting the land into the hands of Monsanto.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 22:35 | Link to Comment FreedomGuy
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Pray to the Fed and Congress and see how that works. As I recall, the creation of the Fed would take the "cycle" out of business cycles. If God is not in heaven then He must certainly be somewhere in Washington, because I have personally heard promises to feed all the poor, comfort the afflicted, employ the unemployed, secure retirements, heal union members' wives from cancer, change the temperature of the earth, provide fair outcomes in life, etc....lots of big promises from someone or something pretty powerful and ominipotent. Just like the televangelists we love to deride, Washington promises to do its work with your "donations". And now the need is particularly critical in these hard times caused by Republicans and too much freedom.

Donate now, before it is too late! Millions are counting on you!

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:22 | Link to Comment jimmytorpedo
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You didn't build HAARP,....I DID!

(in my shoomwagon)

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:37 | Link to Comment Papasmurf
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I think these days, he has moved on to the shroomwagon.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:09 | Link to Comment Precious
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Anyone else see diamond earrings in this video?

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:09 | Link to Comment Precious
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...

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:13 | Link to Comment A Nanny Moose
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They can make it happen in 3000 pages...or more.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:25 | Link to Comment CPL
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I would like to point out that we still have a couple more months left for summer. 

End of Sept is typical harvest time.  Super markets are selling fresh Squash around here, I usually like my pumpkins and squash when the leaves are changing colour.  Heat, no rain, stresses the plants out and most would go hermaphrodite and push pollen and seed cycles in a wickedly messy fashion.  Also creates that magical condition that allows for the spawning of the locust storms.

Insects come in waves over a summer, and grass hoppers drop their eggs and hatch when the conditions are right, yet the biological push to procreate acts like pressure in a boiler.  The longer all those egg hatching cycles are delayed waiting it pushes the sheer volume of grasshoppers that hatch at once.  In addition to improved conditions for swarms of grass hoppers and locusts, it delays mosquito, deer flies, horse flies and black flies.

I would suggest to anyone in the tristate area to just leave town for a month. 

 

Other than the usual drought and plague of locust cycles.

http://www.irinnews.org/Report/95938/MALI-NIGER-Locusts-spawning-disaster

http://columbustelegram.com/news/local/heat-drought-promote-spider-mites...

YUM!  SPider Mites!!  I'm off Bananas and Mangoes for a while now.  Fruity goodness or lime disease...

http://allafrica.com/stories/201207310485.html

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:45 | Link to Comment Precious
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Putin knows how to handle paid trolls.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 05:41 | Link to Comment AldousHuxley
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ex kgb has special way of handling his political enemies.....radioactive poisoning.

 

makes look CIA the good guys.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 23:48 | Link to Comment SilverIsKing
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Tri State area here.  I have never been bitten up by mosquitos as bad I was yesterday in my backyard.  Whatever the cause, there is a noticeable difference.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:16 | Link to Comment fonzannoon
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There is a new type of ZH crew on here lately. I see them junking everywhere. It looks like the GenY douchebags finally made there way here. They don't have much to say because they are pretty stupid. They may be tired because they just got back from their mudder. They are a little irritated because their parents had no luck scoring them a cake job at the job fair while they were gone. But hey they keep their savings account filled enough to hit up brother jimmy's every weekend and back slap themselves silly. This group is the key to the middle class success. As long as they are incapable of earning a living and displaying any independence you would think there would be enough jobs out there for those who can....

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:21 | Link to Comment CH1
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There is a new type of ZH crew on here lately. I see them junking everywhere.

Yup, becdause they are paid trolls.

Our overlords think we're having too much fun here, so they are paying Sunstein's children to nudge us back toward right-thinking.

Ignore them and keep on keepin' on.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:29 | Link to Comment knukles
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....truth....

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:47 | Link to Comment AldousHuxley
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why don't boomers kill all generation Y and see what happens to medicare, social security, and the pensions, which they wouldn't get when they get older.

 

Fact is young is paying for crimes of the old.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:51 | Link to Comment fonzannoon
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the young are not paying for shit. they are just another liability.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:00 | Link to Comment AldousHuxley
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how many old man out in middle east "dying for your freedom"?

 

most people over age 40 just plays politics and don't do anythign productive.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:21 | Link to Comment CrockettAlmanac.com
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And loving it.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:32 | Link to Comment nmewn
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Plus one Agent 86 ;-)

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 01:07 | Link to Comment Freddie
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Nary a word from the left or Democrats on Obama's wars.   From the party who gave us JFK/LBJ's Vietnam War.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 05:51 | Link to Comment AldousHuxley
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don't make it partisan.

when hippies found out their love of money and materialism, they became more ruthless than their parents....

 

shopping for home remodeling and complaining about youngsters is why boomers missed out on any say to their politicians who passed laws such as this way back in 1998:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Liberation_Act

 

The Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 is a United States Congressional statement of policy calling for regime change in Iraq.[1][2] It was signed into law by President Bill Clinton, and states that it is the policy of the United States to support democratic movements within Iraq. The Act was cited in October 2002 to argue for the authorization of military force against the Iraqi government.

 

 

Plenty of boomers unware that US government is going to spend TRILLIONS more in their next target: Iran

The Iran Freedom Support Act (Pub.L. 109-293, 120 Stat. 1344, H.R. 6198, enacted September 30, 2006) is an Act of Congress that appropriated $10 million and directed the President of the United States to spend that money in support of groups opposed to the Iranian government. Opponents claimed the bill was a first step towards a US-led invasion of the country.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Freedom_and_Support_Act

 

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:02 | Link to Comment BeetleBailey
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WRONG!

You got it backwards. The old are paying for the young, and this moron in office has them so bollixed up with lies and bullshit, I can smell the stink from here.

FUCK YOU OBAMA YOU ASSHOLE!

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:18 | Link to Comment fonzannoon
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I am in my mid 30's with kids and am around kids between 1-5 all the time. They are an interesting bunch. It's amazing to see their minds at work. All they want is to learn and understand and be like their parents. A lot of these parents I see are hardworking (a lot of them paper pushers but they get after it). It's amazing to see these parents totally whiffing on instilling anything valuable in them. The parents are too busy updating their facebook pages with some stupid photo to give a shit what the kid is actually doing. We are so fucked it's not even funny. Although if you can teach your kid well in the midst of this you probably have a future 1 percenter on your hands. They will run circles around their age group. The key is you actually have to give a shit.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:46 | Link to Comment Precious
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Anyone who's not strung out on weed, alcohol or amphetamines can easily beat the 99%.  It's not a very high bar anymore.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:53 | Link to Comment AldousHuxley
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most people move up or down 2 rungs in class ladder.

 

take out sheer luck, parental help, and most likely 1% is just bunch of corrupt cheaters just like politicians you elect.

 

 

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:17 | Link to Comment chasman
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You are one dumb fuck Al, period.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 05:22 | Link to Comment AldousHuxley
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dumb people believe they are smart....

that's what's wrong with USA....

dumb people believing they are smart because they heard it on the news and poor people believing they are 1% because government borrowed money to give them cheap material goods made in china.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:07 | Link to Comment Tijuana Donkey Show
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"Strung out on weed?" Get fucked, meth, opiates, coke, crack; these will string people out. "Strung out on weed?" You oviously live in Babylon, and can't see what''s around you. Pot smokers are everywhere, and you would never know. Good luck on anything without the stoners, we're the glue.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:09 | Link to Comment Tijuana Donkey Show
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I didn't smoke this all myself, I had help man.... Others helped me smoke it.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:27 | Link to Comment CrockettAlmanac.com
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Choomwagon!

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 22:00 | Link to Comment Tom Green Swedish
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You don't think pot makes people stupid?  Where have you been. Look at Obama. The guy is braindeed.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_AAMa_X2dM

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 02:28 | Link to Comment dogbreath
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who voted for him??

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 05:55 | Link to Comment AldousHuxley
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seriously ...stop blaming obama. he is doing what he gets paid.....by lobbysts. and he will do what you want him to do when you give him your money....

 

american middle class must get politically active and start milking the system for themselves. create a lobby, donate some money, and support any candidate who will improve the lives of majority of middle class americans not the poor not the rich.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 00:48 | Link to Comment Precious
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Fucking Daniel Webster.  You're the glue?  More like "huffing" glue -- batshit doucebag.  You're probably smoking some pansy ass stems your mother grows in her bathroom window.  Nobody gives a shit.  You don't know the difference.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 05:56 | Link to Comment AldousHuxley
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as soon as huffingtonpost got popular, big media bought it out to control it.

 it is full of shit media now instead of focusing on the real issues.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 01:11 | Link to Comment Freddie
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Throw the TV out.  This will keep your kids from being brainwashed by The Matrix.  Ditto Hollywood's shit.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 12:46 | Link to Comment LMAOLORI
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BeetleBailey

"You got it backwards. The old are paying for the young, and this moron in office has them so bollixed up with lies and bullshit, I can smell the stink from here."

 

I don't know why so many junked you I would bet they didn't give it much thought because our government has been Looting Social Security for years ($2.7 Trillion so far) so you are correct the people who are about to retire are paying for the young. Social Security holds more of our debt then China and for the first time in history they will get back less then they were FORCED to pay in. 

You are also correct about them being bollixed up with lies since obama's reduction in the payroll tax ($166 Billion)) hurt Social Security even more. 

Social Security is a wedge issue IMO some of you WHINE about the Senior's wanting the money back they were forced to pay in yet you WHINE about a corrupt government and corrupt bankers at the same time advocating theft from Seniors.  By LAW our government is obligated to pay it back. Many of you act like it's the Senior's stealing from you. Social Security is an entirely self funded program paid for by Employers/Employee's not the government. Social Security cannot deficit spend by LAW.  When/if it doesn't have enough funds it will have to cut benefits.


The TRUTH About Who Really Owns All Of America's Debt

snip..

Social Security Trust Fund

Percent of US Debt that they own: 19%

China

Percent of US Debt that they own: 8%

in full http://www.businessinsider.com/who-owns-us-debt-2011-7?op=1

Those of you who think it's anything less then theft not to return the funds are no better then those you WHINE about i.e, the corrupt govt. or the bankers.  It is a DEBT just like any other debt and every debt is someone's elses assets in this case the Seniors. The people who set it up and the politicians who Looted it they are the problem yet they have successfully misdirected the anger.

"Here's how it works: For nearly three decades Social Security produced big surpluses, collecting more in taxes than it paid in benefits. The government, however, spent that money on other programs, reducing the amount it had to borrow from the public, including foreign investors. That's why some advocates complain that Congress has "raided" Social Security.

In return, the Treasury Department issued special bonds to Social Security. The bonds are now valued at $2.7 trillion. They are accounted for in two Social Security trust funds, one for the retirement program and one for the disability program.

The bonds pay interest like other Treasury notes and are backed by the full faith and credit of the U.S. government."

Honestly I believe Social Security was unconstitutional to begin with & I am not saying Social Security is unlike a Ponzi Scheme but that isn't the fault of the people who paid into it, that's the fault of the Politicians who set it up and lack of leadership to fix it or dismantle it.  



Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:33 | Link to Comment Freewheelin Franklin
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Fact is young is paying for crimes of the old.

 

True. But they are the ones that are defending them. I'm 46. End those fucking programs. Just give me back the money I put in, and my former employers contributed on my behalf. I don't want the young to have to take care of me when I'm old. They are the ones that want to ram it down my throat, and fuck everybody over in the process.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:57 | Link to Comment AldousHuxley
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boomer's parents are the ones who took more than they put in because of advances in medical technology.

 

social security is projected to run out in 2035 right when last of baby boomers hit 80.

 

and look at all those old farts blaming the young.

 

the young already have no nope for social security....IT IS THE ENTITLED BOOMERS WANTING TO HAVE THE YOUNG PAY FOR IT AND GET RID OF IT WHEN THEY ARE DONE.

 

Paul Ryan's proposal is anyone over 55 won't be affected with social security cut.....he is selling out the young for benefit of old who are going to die in 20 years anyway.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:57 | Link to Comment Tom Green Swedish
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The Department of Homeland Security, who uses only green card statistics, says that there were 1.3 million immigrants in 2006, however if you include all other forms of immigration, the average would be about 1.8 million each year.

 

And you ask why young people have such a hard time finding work.  Ask the government.  But Obama is busy creating new jobs for some fruckers from India and Mexico.  I suppose this is Generation Y's fault right?  When I was in my twenty's with a college degree I couldn't find work. I had to end up working with a bunch of illegal aliens.  It wasn't a hard job but they drove the price down bigtime.  I'm sure some of those kids would love to have that job now but they can't.  The government is letting the 1.5 million people in the country a year on work permits. Do these people create jobs?  Not as many as you would think.  So there you have it.  Now not only do you have to create 1.5 million more jobs for these people but 1.5 million jobs for new job entrants who should be entitled to those jobs. This system is crazy. 

 

Washington: At least 30,000 Indians would be among the 1.76 million undocumented illegal immigrants who would benefit from US President Barack Obama's new policy to defer deportation of illegal immigrants for two years, a new study said.

 

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 05:27 | Link to Comment AldousHuxley
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democrats import labor....cheapen labor with more supply.

republicans outsource to foreign countries completely....permanently move away.

 

nobody wins except owners of this country.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:33 | Link to Comment CrockettAlmanac.com
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I'm 46. End those fucking programs. Just give me back the money I put in, and my former employers contributed on my behalf. I don't want the young to have to take care of me when I'm old.

 

Too late. You aren't going to get back what you put in. Depending on what the following article means by "workers who have paid" (do they include the employer contribution in this figure) you may not see a single penny of the employer contribution.

 

Social Security not deal it once was for workers

WASHINGTON — People retiring today are part of the first generation of workers who have paid more in Social Security taxes during their careers than they will receive in benefits after they retire. It's a historic shift that will only get worse for future retirees, according to an analysis by The Associated Press.

A married couple retiring last year after both spouses earned average lifetime wages paid about $598,000 in Social Security taxes during their careers. They can expect to collect about $556,000 in benefits, if the man lives to 82 and the woman lives to 85, according to a 2011 study by the Urban Institute, a Washington think tank.

 

http://www.nctimes.com/news/opinion/perspective/social-security-not-deal...

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:56 | Link to Comment Tom Green Swedish
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There is a program where immigrants get to collect Social Security when they are not entitled to it. This is part of the problem.  Government is on crack.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:32 | Link to Comment Bay of Pigs
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Nobody is paying for anything with trillion dollar deficits. You missed that part?

 

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:59 | Link to Comment AldousHuxley
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well government spends so much on war that they need to spend all they collect in taxes (50% of your slave labor) AND they need to borrow from China....

 

It is like slave holder borrowing more money because he is so stupid, wasteful that he can't profit from slave labor only.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 22:39 | Link to Comment FreedomGuy
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It is the same thing that will happen with Gen Y, Z, AA, ZZ, etc. It will go broke. The only difference is when. Socialism will always fail. The question is what will replace it and that is where they need to be smart.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 05:29 | Link to Comment AldousHuxley
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communism failed because corrupt leaders took over and abused their power.

capitalism failed because corrupt banksters took over and abused their power.

socialism failed because corrupt bureaucrats took over and abused their power.

 

 

systems fail when top people abuse their power. best policy is to limit CONCENTRATION OF POWER.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 10:40 | Link to Comment FreedomGuy
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Finally! Someone else gets it. The problem is the power paired up with human nature.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:49 | Link to Comment bookwurm
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.50cnt Brigade

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 23:36 | Link to Comment Calmyourself
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Vote suppression, mood modification, professional downers bought and paid for, their presence has increased over the last 2 months especially, ignore them  We make fun of the bamster becasue he is an idiot, just an idiot with better packaging than the second moron in chief biteme,  make me stop..

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:25 | Link to Comment Precious
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They have to read the posts and comments in order to junk. It's the first time they ever learned something useful.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:34 | Link to Comment fonzannoon
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One of my buddies I caught up with over the weekend works for one of the biggest accounting firms. He said that these firms now have job fairs for the parents of these kids. The fkin kids don't even show up. The parents show up with resumes for the kids and pitch their kids. These firms cater to this. Blew my mind...

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:47 | Link to Comment Precious
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"Just open a brokerage account with minimum $500k and your son has a job here, maam."

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:54 | Link to Comment fonzannoon
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 The awesome part about it is they (the big banks/brokerage houses) hire these kids now as 1099, Independant contractors. No benefits, hourly pay to start.  It's interesting watching these big financial firms eat their young. They have no problem with it. The kids are too stupid to understand they are on the menu.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:09 | Link to Comment Precious
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Cheaper than college tuition, more insights on debauchery.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:11 | Link to Comment Tijuana Donkey Show
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Pussy is deductable, right? 

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 22:23 | Link to Comment nmewn
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Yes.

A pussy in every pot...lol.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:03 | Link to Comment Precious
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...

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:29 | Link to Comment Freewheelin Franklin
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There is a new type of ZH crew on here lately.

 

Yes, I know the type. I deal with them on FB all the time. It's either "you can't own property", or, "logic is not truth, there is no truth, and there is no logic". All kinds of fucked up shit like that. Emotional little creatures that can't form a logically reasoned argument to get out of a wet paper bag. I just hope I'm dead before these assholes run the world. Or maybe, they just might learn a few things between now and then.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:33 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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WTF are u doin' on FB?

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:34 | Link to Comment Freewheelin Franklin
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Trollin, trollin trollin.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:37 | Link to Comment Freewheelin Franklin
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Seriously. Every once in a while there are some really good discussions. It's almost worth putting up with all the assholes.

 

And besides, I'm a God on FB.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:58 | Link to Comment Marigold
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El Todopoderoso !

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 00:43 | Link to Comment Skateboarder
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You're either trolling or you have no soul. People who think FB's alright have no soul.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 01:14 | Link to Comment Freddie
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Seriously - FB, TV, Hollywood & the Newsmedia are all The Matrix shit run by the elites.  Get that crap out of your life.  Facef**k is a CIA/NSA mole op.  Ditto Google, Yahoo and the other crap.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:45 | Link to Comment BeetleBailey
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Yep...they are poorly paid trolls fonz....dumb as the day as long....a Russian August day...norht of the Artic Circle long...

Check out other idiot "news" sources such as the lame "Newser" if you really want to see a bunch of rubes.

Total 100% lame brain horse shit. They think Pelosi is the best legislator ever, and Obama is so cool.

Look at the 5 arrows (and counting) down you got; it's from them; the Obamazombie idiots, devoid of any facts, and spoon-fed from the MSM.

Ignore the assholes.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:40 | Link to Comment CrockettAlmanac.com
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They're not paid. They find their way here after ZH is mentioned at Huffington or Kos. They think they're doing God's work, sans God.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 22:30 | Link to Comment nmewn
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Correct, they are not paid.

Where's my free stuff?

Up twinkles Ocutards ;-)

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 08:22 | Link to Comment Sauk Leader
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I thought I was going crazy. Where is the Old Indian, the Doc and Sheep?

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:43 | Link to Comment mktfizx
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Only way to "ensure the farmers' success" is to nationalize the farmland, equipment, and crops?  Then pay subsidies to farmers weather they produce or not?  Maybe pay certain farmers not to farm?

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 22:33 | Link to Comment El Oregonian
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Did zerO say "Draught" which I already thought he had a "Beer Summit" with the cop he dist, or was that he was "Distraught" over his lack of leadership?

Boy, this commie Marxist can sure be confusing sometimes.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 23:28 | Link to Comment MrSteve
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Youse guys shud know dis is street code talk for getting a rainmaker, ya know, like Tony Rezko. He made a nice home deal in Hyde Park rain on the Obamas but now Tony is in the lockup. He messed up wid da Guv, dat whole mess.

 

Rainmakers, just help da O pay for one now, you'll be OK wid dat. OK? Donn be stupit now.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 00:33 | Link to Comment HedgeHammer
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Guess no one has ever heard of Crop Insurance. Not to mention all the farm assisitance plus paying farmers not to grow crops or develope any of their farm land. Sure lets add some more bullshit into the mix.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 05:33 | Link to Comment Disenchanted
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"There is one thing preventing him for bailing out US mega corporate farmers: that thing apparently is evil congress."

 

fixed...

 

Don't worry the Prez and his fascist* cohorts in Congress will come together 'to save' Cargill, Monsanto, ADM and the rest of their ilk. The little unincorporated family farmers(those few that are left) who don't 'have connections' are fucked.

 

*note...fascism:

 

1. dictatorial movement: any movement, ideology, or attitude that favors dictatorial government, centralized control of private enterprise, repression of all opposition, and extreme nationalism

 

In the current US situation the 'private enterprise'(large corporations) have bought and paid for the government, and it is they and their political minions doing the centralized controlling

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:08 | Link to Comment AldousHuxley
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This is how the US government worked almost 100 years ago:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMjGClS0ztc

"Mr. Smith goes to Washington"

 

This is how the most powerful government works today:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xe1d32I_wUY

 

Legalized Corruption of Government Exposed by Abramoff
Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:53 | Link to Comment jekyll island
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People look at me crosseyed when I say I am considering voting for Obama.  I have full faith and confidence in his ability to spend us into bankruptcy and drive the bus over the cliff.  Politicians will not have the balls to make the changes needed to "save" the US, so just go ahead and break it, take the pitchfork up your ass and then we can get on to the real recovery.  Obama in 2012.  I have approved this message. 

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:47 | Link to Comment CrockettAlmanac.com
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If TSHTF and Obama is in office the Oath Keepers might act. If TSHTF and Romney is in office the Oath Keepers might not act. Not that I want to be in the thrall of folks who still favor one side of the perverse political divide but it would be nice to have someone in the streets who can help the rest of us fend off whatever may be coming down the pike.

Do I expect TSHTF? Maybe, maybe not. But the alternative is a slow slide into total facism. Have a great day.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:00 | Link to Comment zebra
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keep your dirty hands off my job.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:01 | Link to Comment Republi-Ken
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More confirmation that REAGANOMICS is a 100% FAILURE!!!

 

 

That theory of just cutting taxes and never pay for the tax cuts is fairy tale economics.

Tax cuts is Government spending...

National Debt TRIPLED then DOUBLED under Republican Theory 1980-1992 / 2000-2008.

Bruce Bartlett, Chief Financial Advisor To Reagan, said "We made it all up"... duh!

David Stockman, Father of Reaganomics, Dir OMB, said "Republicans bankrupted America"... double duh!

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:20 | Link to Comment Seize Mars
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Republi-Nut

Stop it. Don't start the partisan lie. It's transparent, and frankly, boring. First, I'd like you to read "Jekyll Island" for openers. Next, read "A Century of War: Anglo-American Oil Politics and the New World Order."

After you have figured out what the fuck is going on, then you'd be welcome to post here. Until then, just keep the BS to yourself.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:59 | Link to Comment jekyll island
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It doesn't matter what party is in office as long as the federal reserve is in operation with their handlers pulling the strings on the political puppets.  Politicians will not only continue to not do the right thing, they will do exactly the opposite of what is needed.  Red, Blue, Pink, it doesn't matter to us here in the lunatic fringe. 

End the Fed

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 01:22 | Link to Comment Vendetta
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Exactly

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:19 | Link to Comment AldousHuxley
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Reagon was just a puppet.

The entire world was going along with his policies including UK's Thatcher.

 

That's because central banks, Trilateral Comission and Bilderburg decided that people had "TOO MUCH DEMOCRACY" in the world and central planners were losing control. They worried that people no longer fit in left-right boxes

 

"The Trilateral Commission stated that "The effective operation of a democratic political system usually requires some measure of apathy and noninvolvement on the part of some individuals and groups." "...secrecy and deception...are...inescapable attributes of...government." as it tried to "solve" the "crisis" caused by an "excess of democracy" in the 1960s."

The Commission actually states that "democracy is only one way of constituting authority....[and] in many situation the claims of expertise, seniority, experience, and special talents may override the claims of democracy as a way of constituting authority." The Commission concludes that the only way for democracy to work is to encourage apathy and withdrawal from politics by Americans. Only by limiting democratic participation and relying on politicians and experts, the Commission concludes, will democracy work. They even admit that "this marginality on the part of some groups is inherently undemocratic, but it has also been one of the factors which has enabled democracy to function effectively." This is precisely the kind of arrogance that has led the government to create a wall between itself and the American people. If government leaders don't trust the people to shape and control their government and society, we are not a democracy!

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:42 | Link to Comment Freewheelin Franklin
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There's only one wall that the government needs to build, if there is to be a government. That is, a wall between government and economics. Yeah. I pulled that out of Ayn Rand's ass. And no, I'm not an Objectivist.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:16 | Link to Comment Tijuana Donkey Show
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The phrase "Ayn Rand's ass" makes me puke in my mouth. Not that I disagree with the concept, but after seeing a picture of Ayn Rand, her ass nothing that I want to pull anything from. What does a libertarian use for anal beads?

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:51 | Link to Comment CrockettAlmanac.com
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Ayn Rand was no beauty but the woman had charisma. When she speaks I'm entralled. Watch:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVDkhyrQUiA

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 01:30 | Link to Comment Freddie
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I am not sure I agree.  If he was a puppet - why did CIA Poppy try to have him whacked?  He was not Ivy League like the rest have been since Reagan.  Obama is sort of proxy Ivy because no one has seen his records, grades and no one ever saw him at Columbia either.  

Also Reagan walked on a deal at Reykjavik with Gorby and a lot of people were pissed when he did that.  Still - he was light years better than the muslim. 

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:13 | Link to Comment Donutwarrior
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You sure this isn't sarcasm? 

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:28 | Link to Comment CH1
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You sure this isn't sarcasm?

Doesn't really matter, it is an attempt to re-install the Red-Blue dichotomy among people who have forsaken it.

Fuck Red-Blue!

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:35 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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No fucking shit...

I have a fear that the next 3 months are going to be the "dark ages" of ZH

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:39 | Link to Comment fonzannoon
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I don't know Francis there is some superior intellect on here. I am way out of my league on here. I think that if these assholes actually try to engage in anything other than down arrows they will end up getting educated. I was laughging at LawsofPhysics swatting a bunch of them around like flies on here earlier. He seemed like he was enjoying himself.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:43 | Link to Comment Bay of Pigs
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Hammer the Trolls! LOL...

 

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:05 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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@fonzanoon

The funny thing is... (2 me at least)... is that the 'trolls', always, in the end, seem to fall by the wayside... They don't have the stamina other than to show up & shut down...

So I'm not really worried about it in the end... francis_sawyer can hunker down...

Trolls are like a virus... They need a host...

The metaphor for what I'm saying is like the idiots who are 'concerned about the PLANET EARTH'... LMFAO ~ PLANET EARTH (by estimates) has been around for over 4 billion years & has undergone interstellar bombardments, volcanic chaos, snowball earth, & many other calamities... HUMANS??? Not so much... So whenever I hear that HUMANS are going to take on the job of 'SAVING THE EARTH'... I just LMFAO...

IOW ~ I'm just not looking forward to TROLLVILLE (up until the elections)... But that epoch will pass too (as so many others have passed before)...

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:18 | Link to Comment Tijuana Donkey Show
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MDB and Max Fisher are up to your challenge!

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:28 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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Yeah ~ but at least MDB is funny...

& Max Fisher is fun to give a wedgie to & hang him up on a barnyard nail...

The entertainment quotient must be maintained at all costs...

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:59 | Link to Comment CrockettAlmanac.com
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And I shed a silent tear for Johnny Bravo who kept his promise to depart (at least in that persona) if AU passed 1450.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 22:13 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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Poor Johnny Bravo...

Johnny was a schoolboy...

~~~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VD2BwwGE9uo

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 22:31 | Link to Comment CrockettAlmanac.com
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Johnny Bravo was definitely bad company.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 23:26 | Link to Comment TheFourthStooge-ing
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John was a little crippled midget lesbian boy, but he stood ten foot tall with a knife!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3miYUuNyaDs&t=89s

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:26 | Link to Comment TWSceptic
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Tax cuts is Government spending...

 

No, government spending = government spending. Tax cuts -> property rights & freedom.

 

You democrats with your silly word games.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:05 | Link to Comment BeetleBailey
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You ought to change your name to Repugnant-Cunt.

Suits you better.

ALL Government spending blows - DUH!

Governments run everything into the ground - DUH!

Look in the mirror; it's YOU Gump - DUH!

 

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:02 | Link to Comment RacerX
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pass a "Farm Bill".. yeah, okay. To do *what* exactly? Increase ethanol subsidies? What? Please tell us, O' Dear Leader.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:06 | Link to Comment JohnG
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Have to pass the bill to know whats in it.....

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:42 | Link to Comment AldousHuxley
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZFRP67sX8o

 

How to Propose a Bill according to Jean Arthur
Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:16 | Link to Comment Walt D.
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Sounds like my kidney stone!

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:09 | Link to Comment IAmNotMark
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Something.  We'll do something.  People are hurting, so we have to do something.  So we'll do...something.

And always remember...it's for the children.

And if you don't agree with me...you're a mean and angry racist.

Your dear leader.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:27 | Link to Comment jimmytorpedo
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 I'm not anti-child, just pro-adult

children are not a race, just imperfectly formed humans

i'm not feeling italian, why am i italicized?


Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:07 | Link to Comment BeetleBailey
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To...Dear so-called Leader.....I don't care if you're pink wirth purple polka dots....YOU'RE A CUNT/LIAR/DOUCHEBAG

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 01:56 | Link to Comment dollarbill
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food stamps end Oct 1 when farm bill expires

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:05 | Link to Comment A Lunatic
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Yes, let's have our farms come roaring back just like the auto industry...............

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 03:18 | Link to Comment krispkritter
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We'll have our GM crops and GM cars! Free Frankenfood and Volts for everyone!

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 05:44 | Link to Comment CaptainObvious
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It would be entertaining to watch which kills more people first...the accumulation of glyphosate in the livers of Amerika or the raging infernos caused by the faulty batteries in the car GM "had to build".

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:08 | Link to Comment buzzsaw99
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make it rain up in here bitchez!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUw-qRihn7k

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:07 | Link to Comment nmewn
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I made the worlds oceans recede but I can't make it rain over Kansas...because of the Senate?

One of the best four year comedy tours I've ever seen...lol.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:10 | Link to Comment IAmNotMark
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Comedy?  Or tragedy?

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:13 | Link to Comment knukles
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Reality horror

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:19 | Link to Comment erg
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Theatre of the Absurd.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:25 | Link to Comment DeadFred
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The scary part is that he may actually believe what he's saying.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:30 | Link to Comment knukles
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actually?

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:57 | Link to Comment nmewn
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O'Barry wants a command & control economy.

No doubt about it, he's issued a lot of commands...so far its way beyond his control.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 22:06 | Link to Comment CrockettAlmanac.com
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Ocean to Obama: "No you Canute!"

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 23:02 | Link to Comment nmewn
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lol...he's starting to doubt his own omnificence, his mere presence in a room issuing edicts going largely ignored or remarked on, why, whatever could this mean to the true believers?

It must be soul shattering for an egomaniac like him...poor baby ;-)

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 23:17 | Link to Comment CrockettAlmanac.com
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Now here's something we hope you really like:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRW7pITY5Cg

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 23:37 | Link to Comment nmewn
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lol...I was always more of an Aesop guy...and a winker, caught up in the wrong crowd at the time ;-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqtOM03M8co

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 01:36 | Link to Comment Freddie
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I am amazed we still have an economy.

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