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Obama On America's Drought: Blame Congress

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Last week Obama insinuated that in the aftermath of the "amazing" post-bankruptcy GM recovery, his next plan is to bailout, well, everyone: "I believe in American workers, I believe in this American industry, and now the American auto industry has come roaring back... Now I want to do the same thing with manufacturing jobs, not just in the auto industry, but in every industry." Also, as it appears, the Bailout'er-In-Chief has taken the saying "make it rain" a little too close to heart, and is now taking the worst drought in decades as a personal central planning challenge. Just because he can. There is one thing preventing him for bailing out US farmers: that thing apparently is evil congress. From his weekly address: "This is an all hands on deck response...  But my administration can't do it alone. Congress needs to do its part too. They need to pass a farm bill that not only helps farmers and ranchers respond to these kinds of disasters, but also makes necessary reforms and gives them certainly year round.... So call your members of congress, write them an email and tell them that now is the time to come together and get this done. Too many Americans are suffering right now to let politics get in the way." All righty then GOP - you heard the president: stop blocking the man who would end the drought if not for your disturbing lack of faith, and vote promptly for "Let's All Make It Rain: It's Only Fair" bill. How else can the systematic bailout of everyone and everything proceed as planned?


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Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:09 | 2699482 Weisbrot
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Water Pipeline Project - Pumping water from coastal desalinazation plants

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:16 | 2699509 surf0766
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Stop paying farmers not to grow food. Stop burning food for fuel.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:36 | 2699569 nmewn
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Man...pissed off "welfare farmers" and government subsidized moonshiners all in one post!!!

I like the cut of this man's jib ;-)

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:17 | 2699664 surf0766
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We should put together the ZH budget for America ! 

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:35 | 2699719 nmewn
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Well the first thing that needs to happen is straightening out a "process crime"...IMO.

The process now is, baseline budgeting, where government expenditures grow no matter what the actual revenue coming In that scheme there is no flat line in government expenditures no matter what the economy is doing...the spending continues to grow.

Its guaranteed to lead to deficit spending and the accumulation of national debt.

All in favor say aye...all opposed say nay.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:35 | 2699866 XitSam
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The Senate hasn't passed a budget in 1200 days.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 23:19 | 2700025 nmewn
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Reid won't let anything from the House come to the floor of the Senate for a vote. The House is the voice of the People.

So what we have here is Reid...standing in the way of "democracy" while O'Barry screeches about a do nothing "Congress".

For those of you reading this (soon to be long forgotten comment) who are young and have not been taught basic civics in your public "government" schools (for a reason) the word Congress means both the Senate & the House.

The only part of "Congress" not doing anything to draw their salary and pension is the Harry Reid Senate.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 22:09 | 2699922's picture


We should put together the ZH budget for America !


Ron Paul already wrote it. It cuts a trillion in spending the first year (which still leaves a deficit of half a trillion) but it eliminates the deficit by the end of the first term. And he manages to do all that and bag the IRS at the same time.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:25 | 2699692 Tsunami Wave
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Stop feeding cattle corn for f*cks sakes!

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:07 | 2699809 NooooB
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Yeah, but grass grows all by itself! With that kind of logic what was the point of killing all the free buffalo before everybody found out?!!

...Grass fed cattle!.... What are you a communist?!!!

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:40 | 2699735 Sean7k
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It is obvious that the government is incapable of doing ANYTHING right, so the answer is for them to do nothing at all. Absolutely NOTHING! Not just for farmers (and I am one), but for everybody. Let's make politicians the ultimate leisure class. After they repeal all government mandates, let them sit and drink in Washinton (on their own dime) and tell each other how wonderful they all are and leave the country to people that know how to work and make a profit.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 01:53 | 2700224 dollarbill
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farmers aren't allowed to grow food for humans just corn & soy

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:10 | 2699485 Arnold Ziffel
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Farmers had their hedged money for just this type of disaster safely invested in a "segregated" MFG or PFG account (or both!).


See. There is no problem.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:17 | 2699516 knukles
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Let me be the first to call

Most farmers carry crop insurance, the vast majority of which is driectly subsidized by the US Gubamint via the Risk Management Agency, a  USDA division.

Risk management, my ass.
They don't manage risk (drought, disease, weather) they fucking underwrite it with taxpayer money.


Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:56 | 2699606 bobert
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Not all farmers are experiencing the drought.

Corn is being harvested in the region where I live and sold at record high prices per bushel.

There are losers and there are winners this year.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 22:14 | 2699927's picture

Corn looks great in Western Pennsylvania.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 05:47 | 2700333 CaptainObvious
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Looks great in Eastern Pennsylvania too.  ;)

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:22 | 2699685 Lednbrass
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Yes, most farmers carry crop insurance but there is considerable variability in the methods of payout and cost. Having it does not at all make everything hunky dory, it MIGHT prevent smaller and mid sized guys who couldnt afford the gold plated policy from going belly up and it may very well not.

Ask one of your friends who is a real life farmer what they think.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:44 | 2699752 Sean7k
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First of all, the insurance costs the farmer, just like any other insurance. Second, you will be lucky to get the cost of your inputs back. It doesn't cover labor or machinery. You still have to plow it all back in as well. So, no income until your next crop. 

Knuckles, you're off base here.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:09 | 2699821 NooooB
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Gee, And here I was thinking that was what the FUTURES MARKET WAS FOR!

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:32 | 2699861 Sean7k
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Not every farmer plays the futures market. They put most of their efforts into FARMING! 

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 10:45 | 2700792 NooooB
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Then they are stupid and should get into some other business like matress sales. Why should we bail them out?!!

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 10:45 | 2700793 NooooB
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Then they are stupid and should get into some other business like matress sales. Why should we bail them out?!!

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 00:00 | 2700094 Buckaroo Banzai
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Did you forget that the CME and the NFA have destroyed the futures markets?

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:19 | 2699518 Seize Mars
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Mr. Ziffel, don't forget Sentinel Management Company ($500 million) in addition to the others.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:10 | 2699486 A Nanny Moose
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Farm-Expert-in-Chief forgot to start with "Gooooood Morning Viet Naaaam!" prior to attempting to buy the farm vote.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:26 | 2699488 benb
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I've heard different figures but "Our Government" has spent somewhere between 5 billion and 22 billion dollars to relocate the GM Volt and Cadillac factories to China. Now that's job creation. It's also treason. But if the American people aren't told, this phony asshole can continue to grandstand while we are dismantled.

Obama's supposed slumdog brother-


Doesn’t even look like him. But Frank Marshall Davis does.  

Get the DVD. You won't be disappointed

Meanwhile, back at the ranch – We are Preparing for Massive Civil War,” Says DHS Informant


Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:11 | 2699492 Waterfallsparkles
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Trying to Bankrupt the Country.  Then the Government and Socialism will be the norm.  Government will own all Industrial Companies like China and will control everything.  They will tell you were to work and for how much Money.  They will control your entire life from birth to the grave.  Just look a China and see what life will be like.  The China Government owns all of the Industry.

When the Government takes over Companies and Industrys there is no free Capitalism.  Just look at what happened to Aig, Fre, Fnm, Gm.  The Government "loaned" them money but took an 80% interest in the Companies.  They to this day control them.

We are going down a very dark road with Government overspending and the Government trying to take over more and more businesses in the name of helping them.  Some one once said if the Government knocks on your door and says we are here to help, run for your life.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:56 | 2699583 LetThemEatRand
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AIG was bailed out so that Goldman Sachs' executives would continue to be rich, and the guy who orchestrated it was former Goldman Sachs.  Stop worry about socialism and worry about fascism.  

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 22:17 | 2699932's picture

Do you mean National Socialism?

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:17 | 2699510 A Nanny Moose
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Nail on the head Buzz.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:12 | 2699494 Bill D. Cat
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How about passing a budget ?

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:14 | 2699501 Seasmoke
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July was not as hot as the hot air coming out of this guy

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:15 | 2699504 JohnKozac
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Wait until your money is "volunteered" to build the $65 Billion Monorail in California from LA to Mexico.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:23 | 2699529 knukles
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LA to Mexico.
Fuck me, nothing so useful. 
It's gonna run between Fresno and Bakersfield, two agricultural based communities out in the middle of the Central Valley where there is No Fucking Demand for high speed rail whatsoever.

If it were between LA and Tijuana, at least the domestic help could live at home south of the border and fucking commute.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:22 | 2699684 Hulk
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Governmant spending at its apex, 65 Billion for the Vegetable express...

Any questions as to why we are bankrupt anyone ???

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:45 | 2699755 strayaway
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Get Disney to sell RT tickets to tourists to ride on a fast train just like they have in China. Pay unemployed campesinos to wave and smile as it passes.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:17 | 2699512 Korbin Dallas
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Wait, shouldn't WillardScott-In-Chief be setting a 5-year timetable instead of expecting an instantaneous vote?

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:17 | 2699514 surf0766
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Marxist believe the government can make it rain better than the private sector.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:24 | 2699530 knukles
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Chemtrails, HAARP....

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:22 | 2699524 Amish Hacker
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Never mind the rain. I'm still stuck on the part about how the "American auto industry has come roaring back." Must be the silent roar of the jobless recovery.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:25 | 2699537 knukles
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Oh that's just the "don't tell me it's raining while you're pissing on my foot" phemonenon.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:31 | 2699555 CH1
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Amish, don't you know that we are not to question our sacred leader?

You must not have gone to a government school.


Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:55 | 2699782 Curt W
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If we don't bail the farmers it is going to ruin the auto comeback.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 01:47 | 2700217 dollarbill
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farmers been buying new pickups like crazy since ethanol boom kicked in

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:25 | 2699535 onlooker
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“”helps farmers and ranchers respond to these kinds of disasters, but also makes necessary reforms and gives them certainly year round.... So call your members of congress, write them an email and tell them that now is the time to come together and get this done. Too many Americans are suffering right””


As a rancher of cattle, the current problems I have are the lack of rain and depleted ponds and no grass,  higher fuel costs, and impossible fertilizer costs, and falling cattle prices  because of herds being sold off for slaughter.  


A problem I do not need is the Obama Administration with no agriculture experience and the quaint and ill advised mantra that the small farmer as other small business men did not do to it by himself. A street organizer with the “yes we can” Failure, is not welcome.


Yes people are hurting, and they are hurting worse than 3 ½ years ago. Please Mr President do not make it worse as you did our economy.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:19 | 2699672 Uncle Remus
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Amen to that.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:38 | 2699727 XitSam
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Anyone who doubts that applying the financial rescue to all other businesses would be a disaster absolutely needs to read Bailout by Neil Barofsky. Treasury/Fed only concern was saving the banks by dollar injections. No oversight, no controls, nothing.  Plus Washington, D.C. is completely and totally disfunctional. The country would be well served by bulldozing all of it down to the swamp and starting over. (That's a literary exaggeration if you're listening NSA.)

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 23:13 | 2700020 Amish Hacker
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And they are. See you at camp.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 02:45 | 2700255 BeetleBailey
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"Yes people are hurting, and they are hurting worse than 3 ½ years ago. Please Mr President do not make it worse as you did our economy."

People are hurtin yo...a damn side worse when YOU said you'd fix the messin wid de money

There, fixed it for ya - ghetto style.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:29 | 2699546 JustPrintMoreDuh
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Inflate your tires peasants ... 

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:29 | 2699547 ThisIsBob
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You didn't grow that corn.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:30 | 2699552 you enjoy myself
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why, whenever i hear someone say "needs to do its part" does that always involve chucking yet more ungodly sums of money down the gigantic DC money hole?    also, i write software - why is there no bill for me to have "certainty year round"?  is alfalfa more important than software?  why does Obama hate software?  what about the children?

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:33 | 2699557 Waterfallsparkles
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Give the Farmers Government loans and when they cannot pay the Government Owns the Farms.

Government Health care, Government Motors, Government Insurance thru AIG and now Government Farms.

Looking for total control of your Health Care the Cars you buy and now control of the Food.  Is there anything left?

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:47 | 2699762 canardo
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Mind control?

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 07:11 | 2700381 DeltaDawn
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You forgot mortgages. And maybe 401ks.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:34 | 2699559 knukles
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Looking at the corn out there in the Midwest, no kernels... you'd think that the Gubamnit was in charge... about as productive as the Volt.

You didn't save America!

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:17 | 2699662 Uncle Remus
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It's just potential difference anyway.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 01:43 | 2700211 Freddie
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Shame there is no corn.  We could make popcorn on the hood of the burning Fisker.   

F**k Elon Musk and America's golf playing mullah.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:34 | 2699561 mark mchugh
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Hmmm...let's see.

"Under US law, 40% of the corn harvest must be used to make biofuel."

Oil costs about $16.50 per million BTUs

Natural gas costs about $2.75 per million BTUs. 

So we could use the domestically produced fuel that costs 1/6 as much as oil and stop dicking around with ethanol (which costs even more than gasoline per BTU).

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:55 | 2699602 CrashisOptimistic
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No, you can't, because nat gas is not liquid at room temperature.

We can follow that with a string of details and issues, but best to just stop there.  You can't because it's not liquid at room temp (and btw, when it IS liquid, at cryo temps that boil off 1%/day regardless of insulation, it holds only 55% of oil's BTUs per equivalent volume.)

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:53 | 2699773 mark mchugh
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Go explain it to Iran...

Apparently when they're not being religious and extreme, they've got not no problems getting vehicles to run on nat gas (compressed, not liquified).

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:36 | 2699566 Let The Wurlitz...
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Congress is to blame?  I thought the drought was George W Bushs fault ???


Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:36 | 2699568 Sutton
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When you elect a MarxistFaggotCokeheadJawDroppingidiotKenyan ConMan you deserve what comes.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:38 | 2699577 Heroic Couplet
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For the climate change deniers: how much plant and cell biology do they know? Because the temperature at which a plant stops germinating is the critical temperature. You can't put a petunia inside an oven, turn the oven on, and pipe in the Niagra Falls version of water.

If a plant stops germinating at x degree, and the temperature is close to 100 degrees, you're screwed.

We've all heard about "Solyndra." The subsidies to Big Oil are much, much larger, and how many jobs are created by Big Oil subsidies? not enough, if the unemployment rate in the US is at Depression levels with the Bush tax cuts in place.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:43 | 2699585 mendolover
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I think you are forgetting that there is a Marxist puppet in the WH?

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:49 | 2699594 buzzsaw99
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it's been warm lately but i didn't do that

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:01 | 2699616 Reese Bobby
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Should we still call this movement for further economic slavery "climate change" or will you people be reverting back to "global warming" after one hot summer?

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:33 | 2699708 surf0766
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There is big oil still left in the country?  I thought like coal plants they had been closed by idiots who wish to eat raw food and freeze our asses off in winter.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:46 | 2699892 nmewn
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For the resident climate change hysterics: What is the normal temperature of the planet? What do plants exchange for CO2 and sunlight?

Here's the real question that will be answered this winter, does Hopium give off heat when it burns?

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 02:04 | 2700232 Freddie
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It's called El Nino dude - look it up.  It has been happening for thousands of years. 

Peasant fisherman in Latin America know more about climate than tenured, unionized grant chasing college profs who enjoy attending conferences at 5 star hotels with wonderful food and booze at taxpayers expense. 

F off with the climate change deniers crap.  We all know about the faked hockey stick data and other fraudulent BS.  Courtesy of that fraud Michael Mann at U of Virgian and then later at Sandusky-Penn Child Molester University.   Where the Penn State administration allowed outright scientific fraud and child molestation.  They sort of go hand in hand.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:39 | 2699578 Temporalist
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"You didn't vote for me.  Someone else did that."

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:40 | 2699579 orangegeek
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Little doubt that the economy is headed into the tank after November 2012 regardless of who wins.


But this Barry Obama guy - he really has to go.  This guy is nothing but a magnet for freaks and bizarro policies.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:14 | 2699657 Uncle Remus
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This guy is nothing but a magnet for freaks and bizarro policies.

He's just the warmup act.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:44 | 2699586 Reese Bobby
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"Brownie, you're doing a heckuva job"


I know, that is wrong.  I'm sorry.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:44 | 2699587 Atlantis Consigliore
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remember wilson/ YOU LIE,

demolie theme song blame Canada.

that Congressman was right 2009, YOU LIE,  you always did, 

Blame Canada, you dint do dat,  gomint did. ...blame canada.  


Debby Wasserman Farce Party, lies and denies, like realtors...lawyers..


Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:47 | 2699590 DavidC
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Maybe he really does believe he's God.


Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:13 | 2699648 Uncle Remus
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Jeebus done left Chicago,

And he went to Washington DC.



Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:48 | 2699592 caimen garou
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why urge congress to pass the farm bill when the dictator can sign an executive order as usual.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:57 | 2699609 Michelle
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F*ck the douche bag! The drought is bad but is anybody paying attention to the wildfires? 5.6m acres have burned so far and fire season is just starting, compare that to the 10 yr avg of 4.6m acres we are well on our way to the worst fire season in U.S. history. Take a look at a map and see where the winds will blow all that topsoil. Dustbowl 2013 here we come!
Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:54 | 2699780 Zap Powerz
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Things sure are shaping up for a really really shitty future huh?  What will the zombies do when the EBT card doesnt work and there is no food at Taco Bell>?

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:05 | 2699624 loveyajimbo
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I really think this shitbag is NOT a citizen.  I think his passport records will prove it, as would his college records, including his application.  How this could go without investigation is WAY beyond me... is he a NWO or CIA puppet?  He also appears to be melting down under the pressure... he is becoming unstable and may go psychotic at any time...

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:12 | 2699645 Michelle
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He's Russian....somebody needs to pluck a hair and see if his DNA matches who he claims he is.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:16 | 2699660 Uncle Remus
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Wait, Lee Harvey is related?

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:09 | 2699638 AU5K
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Blatant vote pandering by the Liar-in-Chief.


Release the college records now !!

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:21 | 2699677 Michelle
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College records would be falsified and he's spent $3-4m burying his records. I don't think he's American and I don't think he was born to Stanley Ann....he's an imposter.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:10 | 2699639 Uncle Remus
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They're all bozos on that bus.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:21 | 2699678 Seasmoke
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if we dont give the farmers billions, we will not have any peas to eat

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:29 | 2699696 MinnesotaMD
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Obama just wants to see the world burn. 5trillion in new debt, beyond the money paid out of revenue. Nothing to show for it. Nothing. The Fed is trying to cover for all this, but the course is clear without a new age of delayed gratification.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:34 | 2699713 rodocostarica
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Yeah pass that farm bill and soon!! If this link explaining it does not make you puke I don´t know what will.

80% of the farm bill goes to the EBT food stamp program. And we can´t stop the advertising campaign looking for new voters:

Meanwhile, the USDA is running radio ads encouraging more Americans to enroll in the food stamp program. In one ad, an elderly black woman wonders how another woman "stays so fit, what's her secret?" Her friend replies: "Well, she told me that food stamps help her eat right, and she stays active, too."

Press reports say the USDA has spent up to $3 million on paid advertising, in additon to free public service announcements

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:52 | 2699775 Zap Powerz
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I will not deny that there is a part of me that looks forward to watching those fat, lazy fuckers starve.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:12 | 2699829 Henry Hub
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Can you imagine it, these lazy bastards living the high life on an average SNAP benefit of $133.84 per person per month. Makes my blood boil!

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 22:10 | 2699924 JR
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"Asked what labor wanted, the great 20th-century union leader Samuel Gompers answered, “More.” The modern welfare state lives by the same credo. About 17 million people received food stamps back in 2000. Some 30 million received them in 2008. Roughly 46 million people receive them today. From 1 in 50 Americans on food stamps at the program’s national inception in the 1970s, 1 in 7 Americans are on them now." -- The Rise of Food-Stamp Nation July 10, 2012

A needy family of four received $668 at month in food stamp benefits ($1052 for a family of seven) in 2010, in addition to an additional $900 in a monthly cash assistance allowance through TANF* – plus other  monetary assistance..

Maximum Monthly Food Stamp Benefit, 2010, by Household Size

1 = $200

2 = $367

3 = $526

4 = $668

5 = $793

6 =  $952

7 = $1052

Each Additional Person $150.

From the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities (2009)

*A family of 4 can receive up to $900 in monthly cash assistance allowance in addition to food  stamp benefits..

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 22:25 | 2699941's picture


Can you imagine it, these lazy bastards living the high life on an average SNAP benefit of $133.84 per person per month. Makes my blood boil!


Throw in free rent, free cell phones and a variety of other goodies and you've really got something going. I live next door to public housing. Drug addicts are completely cared for and roam around casing the neighborhood all day.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 07:36 | 2700368 Disenchanted
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"Can you imagine it, these lazy bastards living the high life on an average TARP(and all the rest) bailout that totaled trillion$,* not to mention other billion$ and trillion$ of taxpayer subsidies going to corporations, the MIIC and foreign 'allies'. Makes my blood boil!"


But God forbid that We the People receive any taxpayer subsidies, why that would be socialism!


*edit: added link to another ZH article from back in June 2012

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 10:44 | 2700790's picture

The "people" who are taxpayers don't need taxpayer subsidies. All they need is to be able to keep what they earned in the first place.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 06:00 | 2700341 CaptainObvious
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Makes my blood boil, too, because I feed a family of four perfectly well on $50 per person per month.  Douchebag.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:57 | 2699789 JR
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What was all that furor about lawyer Richard Nixon pinning Alger Hiss to the wall for being in the government and being a Communist and sharing secrets with a Communist country? Nowadays, Bolshevism disguised as welfare and government assistance is rampant in Washington from one department to another. And wouldn’t Alger Hiss have been small potatoes these days when fascists such as Robert Rubin, feeding off of the socialist government, have stolen our patents and given them to a Communist country, not Russia this time, but China?

Richard Nixon built a reputation from the Alger Hiss hearing that gave him a platform to run for president. These days, Barack Obama runs for re-election on a platform of promoting socialism.

My, how the times have changed.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 22:27 | 2699944's picture

You could drop Richard Nixon into an episode of the Flintstones and no one would be able to distinguish him from the regular characters. The man was a walking cartoon.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:40 | 2699721 JR
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Obama’s weekly address is classic government bait and switch. First, there’s the crisis. This time drought, severely hurting farmers and creating a food supply problem. But under the bait, there’s that communist word again: reform. And not content with the reform, Obama promises them certainty year round.

If that isn’t an invitation for everybody to go into farming and get guaranteed income I haven’t heard it.

But the classic bait and switch from government, of course, was from Lenin and continued by Stalin. In Stalin’s reform of agriculture - the food supply and feeding the hungry - the Stalin armies fanned out throughout the countryside to confiscate all the food stuffs and agricultural production that existed, especially the land. Farmers and villagers who tried to save some of the food, even for their own use, were executed and soldiers used rods and bayonets to run through the walls of villagers’ homes looking for and confiscating any food that might have been stored. Huge losses and especially a huge loss of life was the way communism operated the process of reform. And millions died: in this wave of Soviet arrests “they burned out whole nests, whole families, from the start: and they watched jealously to be sure that none of the children—fourteen, ten, even six years old—got away…”

Continues Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn on the displacement of the kulaks (peasant farmers) in 1929-1930, of the 15 million driven either into their graves or into the taiga and tundra, into the Archipelago:

“It was the forced movement of a whole people, an ethnic catastrophe…of those who had in anyway hired workers, even if it was only when they were temporarily short of working hands in their own families…but the inflation of this scathing term kulak proceeded relentlessly, and by 1930, all strong peasants in general were being so called --all peasants strong in management, strong in work, or even strong merely in convictions. The term kulak was used to smash the strength of the peasantry…

….these peasants, whose breadgrain had fed Russia in 1928, were hastily uprooted by local good-for-nothings and city people sent in from outside. Like raging beasts, abandoning every concept of ‘humanity,’ abandoning all humane principle which had evolved through the millennia, they began to round up the very best farmers and their families, and to drive them, stripped of their possessions, naked, into the northern, wastes, into the tundra and the taiga…"

The Gulag Archipelago!

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:59 | 2699792 canardo
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Shit. I actually read that book. A long long time ago, made an impression.
Never thought I'd had to worry, because I was in the free west after all. And now just this week I bought a copy of a leftist/progressive magazine here in Holland called Vrij Nederland and guess what, some guy is actually pleading for communism in the EU, in so many words. What they had in Russia and China wasn't "real" communism, Marx is misunderstood, the free market must be forbidden and all the old crap, even has a name for it: democratic communism. Nearly fell out of bed.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:07 | 2699807 canardo
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Here's a link of the cover, even the old symbolism makes a comeback, like we're back in the 30s or something:

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:23 | 2699843 XitSam
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The Communists set quotas for the independent farmers that did not want to join the collective farm. If the farmer met the quota, they doubled it.  If you talked back to a party official, you were sent to work camp, one of the major canals or railroads, where you would die in a year or two from overwork, hunger and exposure.

Now the Obama Justice Dept has refused to say whether it has detained anyone under the NDAA in violation of a judge's order. Do you understand now?

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:38 | 2699729 Crash2012
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It seems very appropriate for EXACTLY this story to be here at zeroHEDGE. You see, anyone worth a crap, already knows that this drought will not have a major impact on the actual farmers. See, there is this little thing called crop insurance that farmers use to HEDGE their bets to avoid catastrophic losses.

What Obama is pushing for is the same old tired BLOATED farm subsidy bill with hundreds of billions in give aways. The house actually passed a small one time bill to help ranchers, many of whome do not typically insure, or hedge, against feed prices.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:41 | 2699743 canardo
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Is it just me or is Oba beginning to look a bit weirded out? The stress is starting to tell. Has anybody else noticed that horizontal line on his chin that wasn't there before?

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:08 | 2699813 Yardfarmer
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yes, positively, very dissociated. like his brain is in kind of a meat grinder.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:42 | 2699745 dolph9
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What a fucker.  I have to say it.  Not that the other side is any better.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:49 | 2699768 Zap Powerz
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The weakness and feebleness this man projects everytime he speaks offends me.

But Obama is not the problem.  He is a symptom of the problem.  Lets keep in mind Obama was elected by about 53% of the US voting population.  This tool represents the ideals, dreams, wants, desires of over half the US population.  I actually think the percentage is higher because many republicans are actually socialists and are just too fucking stupid to realize it.

Anyway, this country is full of people that deserve everything they are going to be getting and I will not shed any tears for their suffering.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:09 | 2699820 spooz
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He may have represented hopes and dreams in 2008, now he's just the giant douche running against the turd sandwich.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:52 | 2699901 Sean7k
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Only 56% of the population that could vote, did vote. He received 53% of those. He was elected by less than one third of the available voters- hardly legitimate. 

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:57 | 2699784 TrainWreck1
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If he sends the wookie out to the midwest to do the rain dance, the New Madrid might bust a move.


Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:06 | 2699803 tahoebumsmith
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I have personally seen the response the government has to drought stricken farmers. Just take a drive down HWY 5 through the San Joaquin valley and see all the dried up farms for yourself. It was only a few short years ago, not an election year mind you, that the same Government decided to shut the water off to thousands of farmers because of a little fish they thought was getting in the drain pipes and becoming endangered. Now three years later after the Federal Government destroyed many family farms in California they are all of a sudden acting like they care? It's all bullshit! I watched this administration and all its libtard smelt loving fools turn a large portion of the San Joaquin Valley into a dust bowl. Oh and BTW, GM isn't the big miracle story you are making it out to be. Without the big move they made to China, GM would be dead in the water. Now three years of the new GM products driving down our streets and the recalls are starting to pile up. Where is the GM witch-hunt like the one you staged against Toyota when they had a bad period of recalls? Oh that's right, the TOYOTA WITCH- HUNT was just about the time the Government took over GM. Isn't it amazing how nobody on the MSM mentions all the failures GM has had with their new product line? Who the fuck is the MSM anyway?

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 23:07 | 2700008 delacroix
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new chevy spark   engine made in korea, transmission made in japan, chassis designed by daihatsu

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:09 | 2699815 q99x2
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He's gone back to drinking and using. There's no hope.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:22 | 2699840 PatientZero
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What a monumental fuckhead. I think we've all have had just about enough of his faggotry.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:30 | 2699854 spooz
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I'd like to see the small family farms supported if they are struggling, but I hate the idea of profitable corporate farms getting subsidies (Paul Ryan said much the same thing in 2007). 

I also hate the ethanol mandate, which is the worst kind of crony capitalistic subsidy.  Bad for everybody except Big Ag.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:36 | 2699871 monopoly
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It would take an act of war against the United States to get Congress to do something now. Nothing, nothing is more sacred to those that take our tax dollars, enrich themselves, steal from all of us....then Vacation. It is vacation time, job 1.

I wish we could fire all 500+ of them and start over. What a waste of a once great nation.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 23:32 | 2700050 XitSam
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So you want a war? Ask and ye shall receive!

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 00:05 | 2700103 TeresaE
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"we" can fire them.  "we" have the right to vote.

"we" don't because we really like our bread, circuses, defense/homeland security, safety, computer tech, false security, beaurocrats, food stamps, disability, social security and the millions and millions on nearly free health care.  To name but a few of the things, and people, that like things just the way they are.

So "we," ain't going to fix CONgress.  Not now, not next time, never.

Knowledge is power, prepare for the worst, hope/pray for the best.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:36 | 2699873 dogismyth
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obama can help by picking corn, tomatoes or cotton.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:47 | 2699893 Tom Green Swedish
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Yea wouldn't that help either Obama or Romney campaign.  A day full of work like the rest of us.  Then they'll figure out maybe to raise minimum wage instead of importing fuckers.  On a side note how is unemployment every going to get better when we allow 1 million fuckers into the country every year.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 22:47 | 2699975's picture

The minimum wage is a barrier to entry for the young and inexperienced as well as the old or disabled. Income taxes complete the double cross.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:44 | 2699890 surf0766
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Where are all the communist supporters tonight?

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 22:17 | 2699931 spooz
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Supporters of Obama?  Why would they back a crony capitalist?

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:50 | 2699896 Tom Green Swedish
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Here's your job growth problem.



he Department of Homeland Security, who uses only green card statistics, says that there were 1.3 million immigrants in 2006, however if you include all other forms of immigration, the average would be about 1.8 million each year.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:54 | 2699903 Ted K
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GeeWizz Damn, and all this time I thought it was the Republicans and FOX sheeple blaming drought and commodities speculation---i.e. inflation---on President Obama.

I guess that shows how confused I am. I'll wait for the next alarmist ZH post to straighten me out.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 22:48 | 2699982's picture

I'd bet you'll wait far longer than that.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:56 | 2699904 Yardfarmer
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weather wars carried out by atmosperic ionization have been a staple of both Russia and the US for decades. evidently two can play this game

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:57 | 2699906 TheFulishBastid
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Can we just skip to november and vote romney in already?  Tired of you old farts bitching and moaning.  Paid trolls?  What are you high or something?  HAARP?  America can't get our own astronauts into space anymore, but they can control the weather?  Do you even read what you type?

Here's a news flash for ya. An F-22 costs somewhere in the neighborhood of 400,000,000 a pop to produce, they can fly for an hour before requiring 20 hours of maintenece, and they lose dogfights to older equipment.  Oh yeah, and we're buying a hundred of them.  You know, so we can "defend ourselves against terrorist."  You know, those guys with camels.  Or maybe china, with their one incomplete aircraft carrier.

I'm positive someone from GenY came up with that bright idea.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 22:05 | 2699917 dogismyth
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you might consider being a little more open-minded.

Weather modifications have been occurring since the early 1950s.  Do your own research and stop demonstrating ignorance.  Have you heard any discussions by the government or major media regarding the usefulness of weather mods during this drought?  No?  And why would that be?  I would think it would be a good conversation to have...unless you're hiding the technology and don't want to reveal it.

And yeah...we can get astronauts in space at an exorbitant price.  But its unnecessary with todays technology.  What good does it do to send humans to space at this point in time?  Data collection can occur easily by machines/computers.

Just remember....everything is bullshit.  everything you were taught (outside of a few science classes) was and is a lie to this day. 

You need reprogramming apparently, along with a few others here.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 22:09 | 2699923 TheFulishBastid
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Sure, and Planet X is right around the corner, and ancient aliens were at the first thanksgiving, I know, I know...

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 06:55 | 2700367 DeltaDawn
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We are not having an open discussion about weather modification because most of us would disagree with it's goals -- population reduction disguised as climate control. Well placed floods and droughts.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 22:06 | 2699918 Hillbillyfreak
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I thought there was insurance for farmers to protect them from natural disasters?  Insurance that helps farmers and ranchers respond to these kinds of disasters and gives them certainty year round. 

I looked up Mr. Obama's farm bill and here is a summary of the program:  Everyone (including non-farmers) will be required to purchase crop insurance.  Don't worry, if you already have crop insurance, you'll be able to keep your existing coverage. If you can't afford crop insurance, you can apply for a government wavier.  By getting everyone in the country to particpate, the cost of crop insurance and the cost of crops will go down for everyone.  If you choose not to purchase the mandated crop insurance, a penalty, not a tax, will be assessed on your tax return, but only if you are required to fill out a tax return.  The funds collected through the program will be used to fund the FPP - Food Purchase Program.  The existing food stamp program will be abolished.  Everyone in the country will receive a funded debit card from the government that can be used at the grocery store to purchase food, but only food approved by the Approved Foods Commission (AFC).  The First Lady will chair the AFC and the AFC will identify what will and will not be included in the program.  To make it fair to everyone, the amount of food that can be purchased during any one month will be limited to an amount to be determined by the FNC - Food Nutrition Commission, which will also be chaired by the First Lady.  Don't worry, the First Lady will ensure that the program provides the minimum required nutritional needs for everyone.  One of the benefits of the program is that it will limit the amount of food eaten by the hoarders, those that eat more than their fair share of the food supply.  Foreign illegals and anyone with an income under 4 times the poverty level are exempt from the "penalty" tax, but will receive a food debit card. 

Here, from

Crop insurance is purchased by agricultural producers, including farmers, ranchers, and others to protect themselves against either the loss of their crops due to natural disasters, such as hail, drought, and floods, or the loss of revenue due to declines in the prices of agricultural commodities. The two general categories of crop insurance are called crop-yield insurance and crop-revenue insurance.

In the United States, a subsidized multi-peril federal insurance program, administered by the Risk Management Agency, is available to most farmers. The program is authorized by the Federal Crop Insurance Act (which is actually title V of the Agricultural Adjustment Act of 1938, P.L. 75-430), as amended. Federal crop insurance is available for more than 100 different crops, although not all insurable crops are covered in every county. With the amendments to the Federal Crop Insurance Act made by the Federal Crop Insurance Reform Act of 1994 (P.L. 103-354, Title I) and the Agriculture Risk Protection Act of 2000 (P.L. 106-224), USDA is authorized to offer basically free catastrophic (CAT) coverage to producers who grow an insurable crop. For a premium, farmers can buy additional coverage beyond the CAT level. Crops for which insurance is not available are protected under the Noninsured Assistance Program (NAP). Federal crop insurance is sold and serviced through private insurance companies. A portion of the premium, as well as the administrative and operating expenses of the private companies, is subsidized by the federal government. The Federal Crop Insurance Corporation reinsures the companies by absorbing some of the losses of the program when indemnities exceed total premiums. Several revenue insurance products are available on major crops as a form of additional coverage.[2]

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 22:22 | 2699937 spooz
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So maybe we can trim the cost of that bill back by taking the insurance subsidy away from the big corporate farms, who should have plenty of margin to cover it. The intent of crop insurance is to avoid taxpayer funded disaster relief.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 22:59 | 2699996 toomanyfakecons...
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He's done. Put a fork in him. The MASS ARRESTS are coming...

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 23:12 | 2700019 extendedorder
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Fucking marxist bastard. I left Europe to and came to America to escape these kinds of fucking socialist utopians.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 23:23 | 2700036 spooz
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Are you kidding me?  The guy is a crony capitalist.  Lots of pork for Big Ag in those farm bills. And a REDUCTION in food stamps in the middle of what amounts to a depression for the poor.  Marxist my ass.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 00:30 | 2700134 LMAOLORI
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"Are you kidding me?  The guy is a crony capitalist.  Lots of pork for Big Ag in those farm bills. And a REDUCTION in food stamps in the middle of what amounts to a depression for the poor.  Marxist my ass."


Spooz maybe this will help you understand

Obama, Hitler, And Exploding The Biggest Lie In History

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 23:25 | 2700037 canardo
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That's why I'm still in Europe, it doesn't matter where you go, it's everywhere. Maybe Russia, and ain't that funny? Or Chile. Places like that.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 23:32 | 2700049 spooz
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Yeah, where do the elites hide with their vast piles of dough, anyways?  What's an economic royalist to do?

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 23:47 | 2700076 canardo
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Dude, if you knew me you'd realize that that's actually very funny.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 00:22 | 2700110 dwdollar
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Elections have a way of bringing out the idiots.

I might have to take a hiatus from Zerohedge and other blogs until after the elections. The RINO trolls are starting to make me nauseous.

Wait for the average idiot to step away from the "intertubes" and sit back on the couch with their Dorritos, Bud, and Jersey Shore.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 00:18 | 2700122 goodrich4bk
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I'm amused at all the comments here.  Despite the general understanding here that there is no difference between Romney and Obama on any issue involving the beneficiaries of financial capitalism (FIRE benies), most of you appear to believe that Romney, if elected, would actually refuse to pass essentially the same fuckin' farm bill.  And he'll get 100% of Congressional Republicans to go along. The only difference is that there won't be much of an increase in the EBT program.  But the crop subsidies and insurance will be identical.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 00:21 | 2700127 MFLTucson
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Clown man is back on!

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 00:40 | 2700143 steveo77
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I gathered together a few funnies about the classic "You didn't build it" gaff.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 01:03 | 2700164 10mm
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Hey fellow ZH'ers.Hon Bun thinks im crazy bringing in every few days a case of canned corn.Am i ok? Thanks.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 01:08 | 2700175 Lore
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"Hottest July on record." <-- WHERE -- In Washington DC?  Certainly not in Seattle or Great Falls.  Let's be specific, else such statements are grist for the Global Warmist mill. We haven't set any records in my locale.

"The Bailout'er-In-Chief has taken the saying "make it rain" a little too close to heart, and is now taking the worst drought in decades as a personal central planning challenge."

No problem.  Just re-task the chemtrail planes -- or merely claim to be doing so, and when the Gulf Stream is back to normal during the next election, candidates can take credit for it.

The Eagle on the flag is showing its arrows. An augur of war?

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 01:24 | 2700192 dollarbill
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farm bill is 80% food stamps ...nancy passed it over Bush veto

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 01:27 | 2700197 Vendetta
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Oh, is Obama talking about bailing the mega agri corporations since they eat the lion's share of government "support" of farmers.  Family farms have been under assault for decades  ... monsanto I'm sure would love to kill off family farms so they can collaborate with agri corps to plant only the GM seed.

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