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Obama Asserts Executive Privilege Over Fast And Furious Fiasco

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If there was any confusion whether Obama is in fact Bush, or maybe even Nixon, this has now been squashed. From Fox:

President Obama has granted an 11th-hour request by Attorney General Eric Holder to exert executive privilege over Fast and Furious documents, a last-minute maneuver that appears unlikely to head off a contempt vote against Holder by Republicans in the House. The House Oversight and Government Reform Committee is expected to forge ahead with its meeting on the contempt resolution anyway.

Holder, whose guilt is implicitly proven by this action, is now likely absolved of everything as the TOTUS has effectively onboarded all of his "balance sheet risk." And why not. The Fed does it for everyone else every day.

As a reminder, from the WSJ:

A showdown Wednesday in the House between Attorney General Eric Holder and Rep. Darrell Issa comes down to this: Who will blink first in a dispute over Justice Department documents Mr. Issa is demanding related to the botched Fast and Furious gun-trafficking probe?


California Republican Mr. Issa is chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, and he has called a 10 a.m. meeting of his panel to vote on a resolution to sanction Mr. Holder with contempt of Congress. The two men held a meeting Tuesday that lasted only 20 minutes. And from their accounts, it has become a game of chicken, with each side insisting the other act first to resolve the standoff.


Mr. Holder said Mr. Issa rejected his offer to provide documents because the lawmaker wouldn't agree that they would fulfill the subpoena, effectively ending the contempt threat. Mr. Issa said the attorney general didn't come prepared to provide documents and that the contempt threat can't be removed until the documents are produced.


At issue are Justice Department documents that Mr. Issa and Sen. Charles Grassley (R., Iowa) have sought and that the department resisted turning over in the congressional investigation into Fast and Furious. The department said the documents reflected internal deliberation or were related to continuing criminal investigations and therefore weren't subject to congressional subpoena.


If a majority of the committee votes for contempt Wednesday, the matter then could be taken up by the full House. If the House votes in favor, then a contempt citation could be referred to the U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia, an appointee of President Barack Obama who is in Mr. Holder's chain of command. And then things become legally more uncertain. It isn't clear if Congress can compel an executive-branch official to prosecute the attorney general. In the Bush administration, the House voted to hold White House officials in contempt in a similar documents dispute and the Bush-appointed attorney general ordered the U.S. attorney to disregard it. The matter was eventually settled with the production of documents before a civil-court battle ran its course.


The main issue in Fast and Furious remains the contention by Messrs. Issa and Grassley that the Justice Department is improperly withholding documents. The department has turned over thousands of documents—about 7,000 or 8,000, depending on which side is counting—and says it is being forthcoming. By comparison, the inspector general has had access to about 80,000 documents, including those the department has declined to share with lawmakers.




The matter has become a political fight, with little real impact on Mr. Holder, who is expected to serve out his tenure through the end of the current administration in January. Democrats accuse Republicans of using the contempt measure as a political tool against Mr. Holder and the president. Democrats did some of the same against President George W. Bush's attorney general, Alberto Gonzales, who resigned under pressure in a controversy over the firings of U.S. attorneys.

And now back to your regularly scheduled farce of a democratic republic.


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Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:24 | 2543532 hedgehog9999
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Awesome picture , you guys are masters of Electronic DNA!!!!

Not too hard as all these fuckers have similar DNA strands.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:38 | 2543299 Dr. Richard Head
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Lesser of two evils?  Good fun.  Have fun with liberal light. 

"Hey, at least he is not AS liberal as Obama."

Party fucker!

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:04 | 2543395 John Law Lives
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"Party fucker!"  -  Dr. Dick Head

Okay, brainiac.  Kindly explain to this forum why Ron Paul and Rand Paul only EVER ran for Congress as Republicans (as opposed to running as 3rd party candidates).  Please enlighten us.  The floor is yours...

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:11 | 2543450 Dr. Richard Head
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Good question.  The system is biased against third-party candidates, as a whole, but moreso on the Presidential side - i.e. Perot.  Rand is a party fucker, as he has shown recently, and Ron Paul is an anomoly overall.  I have no supporting argument about Ron running as a Republican, other than the fact he tried the L ticket a while back and was blacked out and ignored then. 

The Federal Government IS the problem, I guess that is my point.  Consenting to this Federal Government system IS the issue.  Localism and lack of government is what I look for, but understand the possibility of that coming to fruition is about as possible as monkeys from me arse.  Hence, my striking out verbally in a tantrum of a toddler. 

Picking a guy that is NOT as bad, is not as solid as picking the guy that is really good. 

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:40 | 2543618 kralizec
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Translation - Whaaa!  Whaaaa!

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:52 | 2543671 GMadScientist
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Thanks for proving the left doesn't have an exclusive on useful idiots.


Wed, 06/20/2012 - 12:24 | 2543790 kralizec
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Neither is the Libertarian wing exempt.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 12:10 | 2543742 BlueCollaredOne
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The system is designed so third party candidates can't win.  Self preservation is the name of the game in politics, and both parties know that no real change will come with the duality that we now face.  It is virtually impossible to run on a third party candidancy, so Ron Paul chose R

The hurdles third parties face

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 12:30 | 2543810 kralizec
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Can't or won't?

Can't implies the childish meltdowns I tire of, it's always "somebody else's fault" that _________ didn't happen or _________ wasn't chosen.

Life is filled with disappointments.  Get used to it.

Won't is more appropriate.  There are as many reasons to vote for someone as to vote against someone, elevating one above the other, fine, choosing one over the other, not so fine, but pretending there simply is no difference and opting for not voting or throwing a vote away on a certain loser is even worse IMO.

Until a third party/third party candidate comes along that doesn't scare most people off, well, SSDD.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 12:39 | 2543888 BlueCollaredOne
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I take it that you didn't visit my link.


Wed, 06/20/2012 - 13:10 | 2544065 John Law Lives
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"The system is biased against third-party candidates, as a whole, but moreso on the Presidential side - i.e. Perot. Rand is a party fucker, as he has shown recently, and Ron Paul is an anomaly overall. I have no supporting argument about Ron running as a Republican, other than the fact he tried the L ticket a while back and was blacked out and ignored then."  - Dr. R.H.

That is a reasonable response.  Ron Paul did run for POTUS as a Libertarian Party candidate in 1988, but his entire career in Congress has been as a Republican.  I am sure he realized he may not likely win a general election for Congress as a Libertarian.  There just aren't enough enlightened people to generate enough votes there.


"Hence, my striking out verbally in a tantrum of a toddler."  - Dr. R.H

Hey, this is fight club.  We must come prepared to take it on the chin or we don't belong here.


"Picking a guy that is NOT as bad, is not as solid as picking the guy that is really good."  - Dr. R.H

Agreed.  Neither Obumble nor Romney are worth a damn (imo), but one of them will be elected POTUS.  I really hope it is not Obumble.  He is the worst POTUS thus far (imo)...


Peace, out!

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:14 | 2543130 LoneStarHog
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Good luck if you think there will be elections in November.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:24 | 2543218 kridkrid
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Ugh... why would we not have elections.... it's the thing that provides legitimacy to the corruption.  Unless you mean to say that the elections in November are meaningless...that the whole silly thing is a staged production between two teams who serve the same masters...then yes... good luck if you expect the November elections to have any meaning.

The candidate who can best advance the goals of the real leadership will win the election.  What happens between now and then will lead to that result.  Period.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 16:51 | 2545036 mkkby
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"The candidate who can best advance the goals of the real leadership will win the election. "

Wrong.  They've already been vetted as acceptable by the real leadership.  That's why they got the money, party/media support that it took to be nominated.  The real leadership already got their man -- either one!

What happens between now and the election is just a beauty pageant for the sheeple.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:14 | 2543115 fuu
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That pic is freaky.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:15 | 2543140 DOT
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you should know !   

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:12 | 2543116 Captain Benny
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Obama doesn't understand how fast and furious this will impact his re-election bid...

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:26 | 2543221 Azannoth
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He knows that Not releasing the Documents will be a disaster, hmmm so what would releasing them mean ?

A) Impeachment

B) Prison

C) compromisation of the NWO Agenda

D) All of the Above ?

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:56 | 2543396 blunderdog
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Rules have changed.  Congress can't impeach US Presidents anymore.

It might look partisan.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:43 | 2543626 knightowl77
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BTW....Obummer claimed to have NO knowledge of Fast & Furious when asked about it...So how in the hell can he claim Executive Privilege over documents he never saw???????????????????????????????

So either he was lying then or he is lying now...Oh wait, every friggen thing the guys says is a lie

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:49 | 2543366 bdc63
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This will not impact his re-election bid one iota.  People that want to vote for Obummer will NEVER hear a word about this on the liberal media they watch.  Period.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:33 | 2543577 Marginal Call
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It will have zero impact.  In the world of government malfeasance it's a rounding error.  People don't care.  Shit goes wrong, people die, it happens every day.

Most people care about  shit that matters, like Corzine walking around free.  And Geitner and the rest of the people ripping them off.  This story is as important to everyday people as a blue dress. 

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:19 | 2543117 hedgeless_horseman
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Anyone know where to find an update on this non-story?

White House staffers owe more than $800,000 in back taxes

It says the IRS does an annual review.  The IRS is under the U.S. Treasury, and who runs the U.S. Treasury?

Mr. Geithner, may we please get an update on this administration's tax cheating?


Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:12 | 2543118 sschu
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Whatever your political persuasion, F&F has been a criminal enterprise, US Agents have died and someone needs to be held accountable.

But I no more expect this to happen than Corzine spending time behind bars.


Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:58 | 2543407 semperfi
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corollary:   911 has been a criminal enterprise, US Citizens have died, and someone needs to be held accountable

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:13 | 2543120 lizzy36
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If Obama merely becomes GWB 2.0, can he continue to blame him for everything?

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:19 | 2543164 lostintheflood
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Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:21 | 2543190 GetZeeGold
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Been working for 3 1/2 years.....why stop now?


Wed, 06/20/2012 - 14:43 | 2544540 FeralSerf
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You can always blame the other side of the dialetic.  That's what they're there for.  And they can and will always blame their counterparties.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:15 | 2543123 Stuart
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The US is very quickly becoming a fascist state... AND just to prove how frickin' stupid the public is, they're going to in likelihood e-elect Obama. 

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:15 | 2543139 semperfi
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becoming?  so 20 years ago

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:24 | 2543213 Long-John-Silver
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Closer to 100 yrs

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:38 | 2543297 fuu
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Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:15 | 2543141 WALLST8MY8BALL
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Swiftly and Surely

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:17 | 2543152 hack3434
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The US IS a fascits state. 

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:24 | 2543167 GeezerGeek
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Remember the recent dust-up when a leftist commentator suggested replacing the Star Spangled Banner as the national anthem? Since we are no longer the "land of the free and the home of the brave", I reluctantly concur. (Plus, I've heard it mangled by too many vocalists - can't really even call them singers - during opening ceremonies at NASCAR races.)

Look for Obama to issue an executive order making the new national anthem of this: "My Country Tis of ME".

My country tis of me
Sweet land of tyranny
To me you'll sing

Land where your freedom died
Land where no hopes abide
With every Fascist lie
I've made me King

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:21 | 2543191 LawsofPhysics
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Has been since 1913, wake the fuck up.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:13 | 2543127 nobusiness
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Market reverses on the news.  More corruption the better. 

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:14 | 2543132 GeezerGeek
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"I am not a crook." and "Nor are my subordinates". - Barack Milhous Obama.

I hope the next president has the courage and decency to throw all these guys in Gitmo. Heck, under current administration guidelines there won't even have to be any trials.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 14:49 | 2544558 FeralSerf
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.  So often is criminality.  It must be for "The Greater Good".  Or was that the Greater Goodies?

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 17:31 | 2545166 lakecity55
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Yeah, too bad Dick didn't close it. He will make a great guest there, along with "Waco" Holder.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:14 | 2543134 DOT
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At least the claim was "transparent".

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:14 | 2543135 the not so migh...
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I am starting to think Obama does not want to be there anouther 4 years.  Just like Mcain when he saw how bad it really was he suspended his campaign; he did not want the job in the end.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:16 | 2543148 semperfi
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I don't think Mussolini would think that

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:29 | 2543256 pepperspray
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Michelle wants out

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:58 | 2543404 TrainWreck1
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But first, another turkey leg and a bucket o' caviar


Wed, 06/20/2012 - 16:59 | 2545064 mkkby
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McCain suspended the campaign so he would APPEAR to be sensitive to the market/economic issues underway.  In other words, it was a campaign strategy to look concerned, rather than selfish.

You really need to try some no doze.  Pretty basic stuff.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:16 | 2543145 ebrizzo
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Fast and Furious was started under Bush.  

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:18 | 2543157 nobusiness
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Then why is Holder blocking the investigation

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:22 | 2543204 LawsofPhysics
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treason, pure and simple.  Of course in a lawless country, it really does not matter.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:31 | 2543262 Marginal Call
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Same reason they didn't pursue anything on Iraq or torture.  


They are all in the same club.  You don't get in the door if you're not a memeber. 

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:34 | 2543585 DaveyJones
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or the banks, strange days in september and an endless list

it's almost as if the place is corrupt.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 14:54 | 2544580 FeralSerf
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The Bush Gang and the Obama Gang are one and the same -- just different subsidiaries of The Ruling Elites.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:29 | 2543557 Overfed
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Learn the difference between F&F and Wide Receiver, you fuckin' moron.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 13:48 | 2544270 Calmyourself
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See "Wide Receiver" discussion above  IDIOT..

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:16 | 2543146 mtthw2
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Obama will be our last President. And he will be President for life.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:19 | 2543168 semperfi
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be careful how you use the word "our" - not mine sir

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:29 | 2543249 mtthw2
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I wish you were right.  Time to get a second non-USA passport and then I can say the same.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:29 | 2543246 Urban Roman
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Hmm .. how long do you think that might be?

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:17 | 2543151 Abraxas
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I love the picture of merging Bush with Obama. It captures duality of the man better than thousand of words could.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:20 | 2543174 semperfi
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that pic gave me the willies !

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:29 | 2543251 Abraxas
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No offence, but your picture takes the cake in the department of horror.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 17:03 | 2545075 mkkby
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You must avoid mirrors if ANYTHING can freak you out.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:30 | 2543562 Lucky Guesst
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I think that pic is merging Romney and Obama??? So that makes it even grosser that it looks like Bush!

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:17 | 2543156 MFL8240
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Get this clown the hell out of the White House, he is a disgrace to the office.  Executive privledge to withhold evidence of criminal behavor?  Its time for the American people to wake up to this trash.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:20 | 2543177 LawsofPhysics
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Right, get Rhomney in there, he'll fix it.  That's a good sheep, one party, for the banks and financial houses, by the banks and financial house.  Thanks for your support.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:22 | 2543196 SheepDog-One
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Its amazing to me people STILL believing in this 'party' political puppet show BS.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:32 | 2543269 kridkrid
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here, of all places.  I expect it in my office, at my kid's school, etc.  Some day this war's going to end.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 12:59 | 2543994 teolawki
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Hey, everyone has their place in the world. Theirs is called cannon fodder.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 17:07 | 2545092 mkkby
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That's right, sheeple.  The teleprompter will be passed on to another talking bobble head.  Keep believing your vote matters.  Dancing with the stars will not be interuppted.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:22 | 2543192 the not so migh...
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Rommeny answers to the same people Obama answers too, and no,  its not the american people.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:18 | 2543161 i love cholas
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This is complete Bullshit

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:18 | 2543166 LawsofPhysics
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One party, for the banks and financial houses, by the banks and financial houses.  Same as it ever was.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:25 | 2543219 DOT
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Every time you use that phrase, "Same as it ever was."

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:34 | 2543276 Stuart
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rampant corrupt corporatocracy,

bought off regulators,.. SEC, CFTC etc..

banking cartel controlling govt.. Dimon taking the Senate to school demonstrated that in spades,

double standard with law enforcement and white collar fraud from J. Corzine and the likes,

clear acts of corruption by govt officials protected by the white house,

govt spending money faster than a drunken sailor in a brothel, leading the country to financial ruin


so what's the avg citizen to do?   Take to the streets?  You can now be hauled away without charge and held indefinitely thanks to that recent legislation that was passed, hidden inside a larger defence bill.   Individual liberties eroding away.  So what's the avg sheeple to do...  watch more Jersey Shore.., that's what they do.  

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:19 | 2543173 Bartanist
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The should just cut to the chase and impeach the Manchurian Candidate userper.

... but their "master" won't let them.

The toadies are trying to do all they can to gain complete control for their master before the others arrive. It is the most logical explanation.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:19 | 2543175 Element
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So much for being equal under the law huh?

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 12:04 | 2543722 XitSam
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Don't you know the rules? "All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others."

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:20 | 2543181 SheepDog-One
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How do americans just sit by and go 'Duh'

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:30 | 2543259 Urban Roman
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Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:21 | 2543187 ZippyBananaPants
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From the Guardian 3.10pm: Ahead of the football match between Germany and Greece on Friday, Forbes has published the 10 most likely outcomes. Among our favourites:

Unemployment on the Greek team reaches record highs. Only 6 players remain and the goalkeeper has moved back in with his parents.

Corporate sponsors are asked to take a 75% haircut on all their advertising. The Coca Cola sign now just reads "Coc".

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:21 | 2543189 proLiberty
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Its not so much the crime that does people like Holder in, its the coverup.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:22 | 2543195 RoadKill
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Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:22 | 2543197 Long-John-Silver
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I wonder if Mitt Romney will use this gift Obama and Holder just gave him.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 13:06 | 2544047 teolawki
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Why would he want to screw up a perfectly good throne waiting on him?

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:22 | 2543203 Miss Expectations
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I like the Obama/Bush composite photo.  I, however, miss Obama's ears.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:22 | 2543205 RoadKill
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Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:22 | 2543206 BlandJoe24
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Technical ZH website question:  is there a setting where one can be automatically notified when there's a reply to one's comment?

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:41 | 2543316 Dapper Dan
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Just post your cell phone number JoeBland I will call you when someone replies,

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:44 | 2543335 BlandJoe24
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don't call us, we'll call you  ;-)

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:52 | 2543674 BlandJoe24
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Seriously, just asking if the site has a way of pulling up replies to one's posts or of notifying if there's a reply.  Lots of forums have that feature (typically email notification).  Much easier than keep looking for one's comments and seeing if someone had a reply.  Don't want to miss the brilliant comments and corrections. 

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:24 | 2543212 Rusty_Shackleford
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Did anyone know that even if Holder is charged by the grand jury AND convicted at his trial, the maximum fine is.......


Wait for it......





Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:49 | 2543660 knightowl77
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But the really insane thing is, Eric Holder's Justice Dept will have to prosecute....

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:25 | 2543217 Jake88
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the sheeple are in a comma. 40 years ago this clown would have long since been impeached.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:40 | 2543315 TrainWreck1
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They are in a comma, punctuated only by periods of great exclamations.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:26 | 2543224 Stuart
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You have to be completely out of your effing head or totally discononected from reality to be buying treasuries from a fascist state.... you could lose it in an instant on exec order..

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:26 | 2543230 Jake88
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Where there is cover-up keep digging. There may be more to this than meets the eye.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:26 | 2543231 AlmostEven
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This just in: General Hasni Mubarrek is still dead!

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:27 | 2543232 MFL8240
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Wed, 06/20/2012 - 17:23 | 2545151 lakecity55
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How about YESTERDAY!!

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:26 | 2543233 overmedicatedun...
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looks like Obuma will have to openly declare the nov election null and void due to our constitutional emergency of congress vs el presidente.

but as some ass hat posted above's bush's fault, it is but it's all the NWO elites plan.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:28 | 2543237 Everybodys All ...
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Fast and Furious could be Obama's Watergate. At the very least it's Reagans' Iran Contra. The only difference is the Washington Post doesn't care because he's their boy and they will continue to bury the story.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:28 | 2543240 Taterboy
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Obama: "If I had a scandal it would look like Watergate".

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:28 | 2543242 MFL8240
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The muslim is laughing in the face of the American judical sytem.  Getr him the hell out.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:28 | 2543243 rosiescenario
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....and the lesson from this: do not get the NRA pissed off, they are a powerful political force. Holder is in their sights and the slack on the trigger is being taken's hoping that they least they their membership is made up of U.S. citizens (and perhaps a few gun companies).

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:45 | 2543333 Laddie
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It is all that stands between you and the CAMPS, the 2nd Amendment.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:29 | 2543248 alien_scones
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Free money waiting for you at inTrade ( Short Obama Re-election )


Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:30 | 2543257 Seize Mars
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Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:31 | 2543263 Catullus
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Why charge him with contempt of Congress... A non-crime. Just remove Holder from office. Executive privilege or not. If the man does not provide the data, just fire him. How can he be trusted to continue in the role?

Then demand the next guy give you the information as a condition of assuming the office. And while you're at it, remove immunity for misconduct committed as part of the involvement with F&F. Release the information publicly. And allow people to sue the likes of Holder in civil court. At any point in time, you Congress Critters can begin rebuilding some sort of credibility.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:31 | 2543266 vegas
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OK libtards, explain to me again "Hope & Change"? This guy is the biggest piece of shit evahhhhhhh to sit in the White House.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:40 | 2543313 Bastiat
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Nobody's worse than LBJ in terms of the sheer magnitude of long term damage . . . and for the Liberty.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:32 | 2543565 blunderdog
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"Hope and change" was just a marketing ploy.  Mature political oberservers pay no attention to what politicians say during campaigns. 

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:33 | 2543271 Overfed
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The last President who even pretended to care about the Constitution was Reagan. The last President who actually did care about the Constitution was JF Kennedy, the only Kennedy worth a shit. Both had attempts on their lives, and we all know the results.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:33 | 2543273 RobotTrader
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And stocks rally on the news.

So predictable.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:12 | 2543473 Richard Head
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They're fucking down, jackwagon.  STFU.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:34 | 2543275 Dr. Engali
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The fucking libs will excuse this too.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:53 | 2543380 Big Swinging Richard
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The MSM is going to get that tingly feeling in their legs again and provide the cover.  Wake up people before it's too late!

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:34 | 2543278 theTribster
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Put him in jail and thro the fucking key away, far, far away! Actually why stop at Holder, let's put the whole Gubmint in prison where they belong for treason against the constitution, the country and most importantly the people.


Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:36 | 2543288 lolmao500
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Admission of guilt we can believe in.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:37 | 2543293 El Gordo
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If there was any doubt as to the President's involvment, this action merely confirms it.  Holder's off the hook and is replaced by the President - I wonder if he knows that yet?

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:39 | 2543308 Laddie
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Whether it was Clinton at Waco with Reno, or Obama with Holder, it has been made abundantly clear that the government does not obey the law. They are criminals.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:40 | 2543312 j0nx
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Just defund the fucking AG's office. Why are we even talking about this? Hold him in contempt and pass a motion to defund the ENTIRE AG's office, staff, paychecks, the whole nine yards pending Holder's resignation. Then start a motion to investigate the President's involvement. Again, why are we even talking about this? Another fucking dog and pony show where neither side has any intention of doing the right thing.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:59 | 2543409 Winston of Oceania
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Complicity is a bitch, the illusion of L and R continues PROGRESSIVELY towards the totalitarian state...

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:08 | 2543449 cherry picker
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If they don't straiten this out, what would be the difference between Obama, Bush, Saddam or Osama?

Lately, I am beginning to wonder.

Osama W Obama?

They both used force and innocents were killed.

What is the difference?

Don't let the teleprompter and smile fool you, he is a snake.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:43 | 2543329 Never One Roach
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Will Holder resign?

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:58 | 2543700 XitSam
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It won't change the need for the documents, and the truth, to come out.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 17:20 | 2545137 lakecity55
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He'll probablly have an "accident" before he can dime out "Dick."

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:44 | 2543334 cherry picker
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Holder and the DEA broke the law.

Cops and Prosecutors are supposed to uphold the law.

Obama is a TRAITOR to the Constituion and the American people.  Holder is scum.

When the Americans wake up, I hope they put their house in order, the world is watching.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:44 | 2543336 El Oregonian
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When you try and purposefully hide something then the implication is that you have probably done something illegal. This Admin. is toast.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:47 | 2543351 Loco Vida
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Should have named it : Slow and in taking away our 2nd amendment

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:50 | 2543369 Bertie Bear
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I haven't followed this all that closely, but wasn't operation fast and furious just a continuation of Operation Wide Receiver 2006/07 under GW Bush. Isn't this a non-partisan issue of some ATF officials going out of control? It's the Mexicans we have to feel sorry for.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:59 | 2543405 Clint Liquor
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some ATF officials going out of control?

Sure, that's why Holder has been stalling for 16 months and why Obama is invoking Executive Privilege; to protect 'some ATF officials'.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:27 | 2543541 my puppy for prez
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EVERY administration has its closeted skeletons regarding this stuff.  And I don't believe for a minute that the Bush op was just "gun tracking".  If Issa wasn't worried that the whole truth (that every administration, including Repub. ones) might come out in impeachment hearings, he would have called for it by now.  Too much dirt for either party to hide.

Besides, we mustn't forget that both parties are simply puppets for the globalist-criminal cartel that has been gun/drug running for eons!

Puppets, all.....

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 14:09 | 2544366 Calmyourself
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You are not for real.. every one of your posts is a continuation of the last like a program..  Withdraw from the process, everything is corrupt, back neither party, everything is for naught..

It is like a program made to dispirit, a computer program designed to disengage people from every form of effort to change their government..  BOT

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:58 | 2543408 El Oregonian
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Operation "Wide Receiver" was a gun tracking operation. This Administration took that operation and used it to try and abolish the 2nd Amendment, and for a little extra punch, they murdered a Border Agent possibly two more and thousands of Mexican civilians. These criminals in Washington should be brought up on organized crime charges along with murder and attempted murder along with treason. Nothing less will do.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:17 | 2543504 DOT
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Can we sue under RICO and get our country back ?

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 15:11 | 2544662 Papasmurf
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Sure you can.  Contact the Attorney General with your concern.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 17:17 | 2545133 lakecity55
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WR was also done with the full knowledge and assistance of the Mexican Federal Judicial Police.

It was abandoned.

Dick and Jane used F&F to destroy the 2nd Amendment; Mexico was never told. Brian Terry died.

Holder is directly responsible for the assassination of an AMerican Law Enforcement Officer.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:56 | 2543385 TonyCoitus
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I need to up my meds.  Better to live in a mild state of confusion than in reality.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 10:56 | 2543394 Richard Head
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Holder: incompetent traitor.  When the revolution comes, he will be near the top of the list, right next to his boss.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:08 | 2543448 joemayo
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Holder is a stepping stone, albeit a lying murderous one.  From the guy that originally broke the story over a year ago:

"These latest responsibility for the Fast and Furious scandal directly where many observers had suspected all along -- at the threshold of the door to the Oval Office.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 14:00 | 2544324 Calmyourself
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Sipsey street and David Codrea  +1,000  without these two this story never hits, never progresses the Woodward & Bernstein of Fast & Furious !!!!

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:11 | 2543462 Uncle Remus
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Nobody could have seen that coming.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:11 | 2543463 Turin Turambar
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This guy is beginning to make Nixon look like a choir boy.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:16 | 2543494 cherry picker
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The title Commander and Chief should be taken away from one individual.

The age of Kings and Queens are over.  One man has too much power, especially when he is too busy making speaches, playing golf and telling the Europeans how to clean house.

He doesn't have the time to give all of his responsibilities their due.

The Presidency is obsolete...

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:17 | 2543500 Bansters-in-my-...
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The U.S.A should think of creating a Department of Justice sometime soon.

Just a thought.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:22 | 2543522 oldmanagain
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This thread is a new low in ZeroHedge stupidity.

It seems the Bloomberg poll, 53 to 40, Obama over the fairy queen, stirred up the bowels.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:48 | 2543661 Alpha Monkey
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No, the fact that obama is a nobel peace price recipient, but allows his attorney general to provide illegal arms to crime lords is what stirred the bowels. 

If they could have kept it secret, this story would never be here, but since they couldn't we get 1st hand proof that despite whatever rhetoric comes from his mouth, his intentions are not to uphold justice or to defend america. 

I believe some people out there swore oaths to defend america from all enemies... foreign and domestic

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 14:16 | 2544415 Calmyourself
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oldmanagain is scared..  new low to crazy lib means a nerve has been hit, soft spot has been found, press harder, crush that nerve... Here we come..

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