Obama Asserts Executive Privilege Over Fast And Furious Fiasco

Tyler Durden's picture

If there was any confusion whether Obama is in fact Bush, or maybe even Nixon, this has now been squashed. From Fox:

President Obama has granted an 11th-hour request by Attorney General Eric Holder to exert executive privilege over Fast and Furious documents, a last-minute maneuver that appears unlikely to head off a contempt vote against Holder by Republicans in the House. The House Oversight and Government Reform Committee is expected to forge ahead with its meeting on the contempt resolution anyway.

Holder, whose guilt is implicitly proven by this action, is now likely absolved of everything as the TOTUS has effectively onboarded all of his "balance sheet risk." And why not. The Fed does it for everyone else every day.

As a reminder, from the WSJ:

A showdown Wednesday in the House between Attorney General Eric Holder and Rep. Darrell Issa comes down to this: Who will blink first in a dispute over Justice Department documents Mr. Issa is demanding related to the botched Fast and Furious gun-trafficking probe?


California Republican Mr. Issa is chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, and he has called a 10 a.m. meeting of his panel to vote on a resolution to sanction Mr. Holder with contempt of Congress. The two men held a meeting Tuesday that lasted only 20 minutes. And from their accounts, it has become a game of chicken, with each side insisting the other act first to resolve the standoff.


Mr. Holder said Mr. Issa rejected his offer to provide documents because the lawmaker wouldn't agree that they would fulfill the subpoena, effectively ending the contempt threat. Mr. Issa said the attorney general didn't come prepared to provide documents and that the contempt threat can't be removed until the documents are produced.


At issue are Justice Department documents that Mr. Issa and Sen. Charles Grassley (R., Iowa) have sought and that the department resisted turning over in the congressional investigation into Fast and Furious. The department said the documents reflected internal deliberation or were related to continuing criminal investigations and therefore weren't subject to congressional subpoena.


If a majority of the committee votes for contempt Wednesday, the matter then could be taken up by the full House. If the House votes in favor, then a contempt citation could be referred to the U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia, an appointee of President Barack Obama who is in Mr. Holder's chain of command. And then things become legally more uncertain. It isn't clear if Congress can compel an executive-branch official to prosecute the attorney general. In the Bush administration, the House voted to hold White House officials in contempt in a similar documents dispute and the Bush-appointed attorney general ordered the U.S. attorney to disregard it. The matter was eventually settled with the production of documents before a civil-court battle ran its course.


The main issue in Fast and Furious remains the contention by Messrs. Issa and Grassley that the Justice Department is improperly withholding documents. The department has turned over thousands of documents—about 7,000 or 8,000, depending on which side is counting—and says it is being forthcoming. By comparison, the inspector general has had access to about 80,000 documents, including those the department has declined to share with lawmakers.




The matter has become a political fight, with little real impact on Mr. Holder, who is expected to serve out his tenure through the end of the current administration in January. Democrats accuse Republicans of using the contempt measure as a political tool against Mr. Holder and the president. Democrats did some of the same against President George W. Bush's attorney general, Alberto Gonzales, who resigned under pressure in a controversy over the firings of U.S. attorneys.

And now back to your regularly scheduled farce of a democratic republic.

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Dr. Richard Head's picture

Lesser of two evils?  Good fun.  Have fun with liberal light. 

"Hey, at least he is not AS liberal as Obama."

Party fucker!

John Law Lives's picture

"Party fucker!"  -  Dr. Dick Head

Okay, brainiac.  Kindly explain to this forum why Ron Paul and Rand Paul only EVER ran for Congress as Republicans (as opposed to running as 3rd party candidates).  Please enlighten us.  The floor is yours...

Dr. Richard Head's picture

Good question.  The system is biased against third-party candidates, as a whole, but moreso on the Presidential side - i.e. Perot.  Rand is a party fucker, as he has shown recently, and Ron Paul is an anomoly overall.  I have no supporting argument about Ron running as a Republican, other than the fact he tried the L ticket a while back and was blacked out and ignored then. 

The Federal Government IS the problem, I guess that is my point.  Consenting to this Federal Government system IS the issue.  Localism and lack of government is what I look for, but understand the possibility of that coming to fruition is about as possible as monkeys from me arse.  Hence, my striking out verbally in a tantrum of a toddler. 

Picking a guy that is NOT as bad, is not as solid as picking the guy that is really good. 

kralizec's picture

Translation - Whaaa!  Whaaaa!

GMadScientist's picture

Thanks for proving the left doesn't have an exclusive on useful idiots.


kralizec's picture

Neither is the Libertarian wing exempt.

BlueCollaredOne's picture

The system is designed so third party candidates can't win.  Self preservation is the name of the game in politics, and both parties know that no real change will come with the duality that we now face.  It is virtually impossible to run on a third party candidancy, so Ron Paul chose R

The hurdles third parties face

kralizec's picture

Can't or won't?

Can't implies the childish meltdowns I tire of, it's always "somebody else's fault" that _________ didn't happen or _________ wasn't chosen.

Life is filled with disappointments.  Get used to it.

Won't is more appropriate.  There are as many reasons to vote for someone as to vote against someone, elevating one above the other, fine, choosing one over the other, not so fine, but pretending there simply is no difference and opting for not voting or throwing a vote away on a certain loser is even worse IMO.

Until a third party/third party candidate comes along that doesn't scare most people off, well, SSDD.

BlueCollaredOne's picture

I take it that you didn't visit my link.


John Law Lives's picture

"The system is biased against third-party candidates, as a whole, but moreso on the Presidential side - i.e. Perot. Rand is a party fucker, as he has shown recently, and Ron Paul is an anomaly overall. I have no supporting argument about Ron running as a Republican, other than the fact he tried the L ticket a while back and was blacked out and ignored then."  - Dr. R.H.

That is a reasonable response.  Ron Paul did run for POTUS as a Libertarian Party candidate in 1988, but his entire career in Congress has been as a Republican.  I am sure he realized he may not likely win a general election for Congress as a Libertarian.  There just aren't enough enlightened people to generate enough votes there.


"Hence, my striking out verbally in a tantrum of a toddler."  - Dr. R.H

Hey, this is fight club.  We must come prepared to take it on the chin or we don't belong here.


"Picking a guy that is NOT as bad, is not as solid as picking the guy that is really good."  - Dr. R.H

Agreed.  Neither Obumble nor Romney are worth a damn (imo), but one of them will be elected POTUS.  I really hope it is not Obumble.  He is the worst POTUS thus far (imo)...


Peace, out!

LoneStarHog's picture

Good luck if you think there will be elections in November.

kridkrid's picture

Ugh... why would we not have elections.... it's the thing that provides legitimacy to the corruption.  Unless you mean to say that the elections in November are meaningless...that the whole silly thing is a staged production between two teams who serve the same masters...then yes... good luck if you expect the November elections to have any meaning.

The candidate who can best advance the goals of the real leadership will win the election.  What happens between now and then will lead to that result.  Period.

mkkby's picture

"The candidate who can best advance the goals of the real leadership will win the election. "

Wrong.  They've already been vetted as acceptable by the real leadership.  That's why they got the money, party/media support that it took to be nominated.  The real leadership already got their man -- either one!

What happens between now and the election is just a beauty pageant for the sheeple.

fuu's picture

That pic is freaky.

DOT's picture

you should know !   

Captain Benny's picture

Obama doesn't understand how fast and furious this will impact his re-election bid...

Azannoth's picture

He knows that Not releasing the Documents will be a disaster, hmmm so what would releasing them mean ?

A) Impeachment

B) Prison

C) compromisation of the NWO Agenda

D) All of the Above ?

blunderdog's picture

Rules have changed.  Congress can't impeach US Presidents anymore.

It might look partisan.

knightowl77's picture

BTW....Obummer claimed to have NO knowledge of Fast & Furious when asked about it...So how in the hell can he claim Executive Privilege over documents he never saw???????????????????????????????

So either he was lying then or he is lying now...Oh wait, every friggen thing the guys says is a lie

bdc63's picture

This will not impact his re-election bid one iota.  People that want to vote for Obummer will NEVER hear a word about this on the liberal media they watch.  Period.

Marginal Call's picture

It will have zero impact.  In the world of government malfeasance it's a rounding error.  People don't care.  Shit goes wrong, people die, it happens every day.

Most people care about  shit that matters, like Corzine walking around free.  And Geitner and the rest of the people ripping them off.  This story is as important to everyday people as a blue dress. 

hedgeless_horseman's picture



Anyone know where to find an update on this non-story?

White House staffers owe more than $800,000 in back taxes

It says the IRS does an annual review.  The IRS is under the U.S. Treasury, and who runs the U.S. Treasury?

Mr. Geithner, may we please get an update on this administration's tax cheating?


sschu's picture

Whatever your political persuasion, F&F has been a criminal enterprise, US Agents have died and someone needs to be held accountable.

But I no more expect this to happen than Corzine spending time behind bars.


semperfi's picture

corollary:   911 has been a criminal enterprise, US Citizens have died, and someone needs to be held accountable

lizzy36's picture

If Obama merely becomes GWB 2.0, can he continue to blame him for everything?

GetZeeGold's picture



Been working for 3 1/2 years.....why stop now?


FeralSerf's picture

You can always blame the other side of the dialetic.  That's what they're there for.  And they can and will always blame their counterparties.

Stuart's picture

The US is very quickly becoming a fascist state... AND just to prove how frickin' stupid the public is, they're going to in likelihood e-elect Obama. 

semperfi's picture

becoming?  so 20 years ago

hack3434's picture

The US IS a fascits state. 

GeezerGeek's picture

Remember the recent dust-up when a leftist commentator suggested replacing the Star Spangled Banner as the national anthem? Since we are no longer the "land of the free and the home of the brave", I reluctantly concur. (Plus, I've heard it mangled by too many vocalists - can't really even call them singers - during opening ceremonies at NASCAR races.)

Look for Obama to issue an executive order making the new national anthem of this: "My Country Tis of ME".

My country tis of me
Sweet land of tyranny
To me you'll sing

Land where your freedom died
Land where no hopes abide
With every Fascist lie
I've made me King

LawsofPhysics's picture

Has been since 1913, wake the fuck up.

nobusiness's picture

Market reverses on the news.  More corruption the better. 

GeezerGeek's picture

"I am not a crook." and "Nor are my subordinates". - Barack Milhous Obama.

I hope the next president has the courage and decency to throw all these guys in Gitmo. Heck, under current administration guidelines there won't even have to be any trials.

FeralSerf's picture

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.  So often is criminality.  It must be for "The Greater Good".  Or was that the Greater Goodies?

lakecity55's picture

Yeah, too bad Dick didn't close it. He will make a great guest there, along with "Waco" Holder.

DOT's picture

At least the claim was "transparent".

the not so mighty maximiza's picture

I am starting to think Obama does not want to be there anouther 4 years.  Just like Mcain when he saw how bad it really was he suspended his campaign; he did not want the job in the end.

semperfi's picture

I don't think Mussolini would think that

TrainWreck1's picture

But first, another turkey leg and a bucket o' caviar


mkkby's picture

McCain suspended the campaign so he would APPEAR to be sensitive to the market/economic issues underway.  In other words, it was a campaign strategy to look concerned, rather than selfish.

You really need to try some no doze.  Pretty basic stuff.

ebrizzo's picture

Fast and Furious was started under Bush.  

nobusiness's picture

Then why is Holder blocking the investigation

LawsofPhysics's picture

treason, pure and simple.  Of course in a lawless country, it really does not matter.

Marginal Call's picture

Same reason they didn't pursue anything on Iraq or torture.  


They are all in the same club.  You don't get in the door if you're not a memeber.