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Obama Issues Statement On SCOTUS Arizona Immigration Law Ruling

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Just out from the TOTUS, who manages to convert a Supreme Court slap into a piece of pre-election propaganda like no other.

Following the Supreme Court’s ruling this morning on Arizona’s immigration law, President Obama released this statement:

I am pleased that the Supreme Court has struck down key provisions of Arizona's immigration law. What this decision makes unmistakably clear is that Congress must act on comprehensive immigration reform. A patchwork of state laws is not a solution to our broken immigration system—it’s part of the problem.


At the same time, I remain concerned about the practical impact of the remaining provision of the Arizona law that requires local law enforcement officials to check the immigration status of anyone they even suspect to be here illegally. I agree with the Court that individuals cannot be detained solely to verify their immigration status. No American should ever live under a cloud of suspicion just because of what they look like. Going forward, we must ensure that Arizona law enforcement officials do not enforce this law in a manner that undermines the civil rights of Americans, as the Court’s decision recognizes. Furthermore, we will continue to enforce our immigration laws by focusing on our most important priorities like border security and criminals who endanger our communities, and not, for example, students who earn their education—which is why the Department of Homeland Security announced earlier this month that it will lift the shadow of deportation from young people who were brought to the United States as children through no fault of their own.


I will work with anyone in Congress who’s willing to make progress on comprehensive immigration reform that addresses our economic needs and security needs, and upholds our tradition as a nation of laws and a nation of immigrants. And in the meantime, we will continue to use every federal resource to protect the safety and civil rights of all Americans, and treat all our people with dignity and respect. We can solve these challenges not in spite of our most cherished values—but because of them. What makes us American is not a question of what we look like or what our names are. What makes us American is our shared belief in the enduring promise of this country—and our shared responsibility to leave it more generous and more hopeful than we found it.

In light of this, we can't wait to see what happens if and when Obamacare is overturned on Thursday.


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Mon, 06/25/2012 - 18:07 | 2559691 slaughterer
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I have seen a whole lot of twisted politics go by in the last 3 and a half years, but this spin really is not worth defending...

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 18:21 | 2559727 chet
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Actually, most of the law was struck down.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 18:27 | 2559745 Colombian Gringo
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If Obama can lie about his birth certificate and get away with it, why not also lie about the supreme court decision? There are plenty of dummies who will believe what enamates from his mouth.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 18:31 | 2559754 chet
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He's not lying.  Most of the law was struck down by the Supreme Court. 

"Enamates" isn't a word.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 18:46 | 2559797 nmewn
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See my link below...he's now going to refuse calls from local police in Az who have somone they believe is illegal checked out. As a practical all of it is struck down as he won't enforce what was upheld by SCOTUS.

He's gone rogue...or semi-dictator, however you want to put it. 

Az will be right back where they were...arresting and detaining illegals forever because the Feds (Obama) are choosing to turn their back on their responsibilities to enforce federal immigration law.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 19:06 | 2559835 chet
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Yes, he is selectively enforcing.  No argument there.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 19:34 | 2559911 nmewn
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You realize thats death to a republic (such as it is) based on laws right?

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 20:08 | 2559986 caconhma
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The Nation of imbeciles must be very much proud of its leader Obama.

Just wait for the next President. I think he may demand calling him the Fuhrer (if we are lucky, we will call him just Duce.)




Mon, 06/25/2012 - 20:58 | 2560102 nmewn
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He can demand anything he wants, most of us will just laugh at him as usual.

We have a healthy disrespect for snobs of any stripe...its all good. He'll have to be a whole lot more clever than what has come before him.

Of course thats not such a high bar now is it?

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 22:28 | 2560374 palmereldritch
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  Paupers please!

[Translation: Given that you have no paper, one hopes your pockets are full of change]

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 21:07 | 2560121 GCT
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Chet agree most was struck down but the part with the most contention with he pres and the hispanic movements was the part they did not take out.  They can spin it anyway they like AZ won this round.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 23:04 | 2560442 eatthebanksters
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The rule of law does not apply under Obama.  Rather than work through the system to change the laws with which he disagrees, he uses decree by dictator to do as he desires, and purely to political ends.  (He could have done all of this his first two years in office with his majority in both house of Congrees but was scared to alienate voters, so he waited untilhe was in trouble...the result is that he is throwing shit against the wall).  Where are the prosecutions for crimes on Wall Street?  Oh that's right, he has gleaned millions in contributions from those law breakers.  Why is Corzine running free?  Oh that's right, he a super bundler and former Democratic US Senator and NJ Governor, not to mention Joe Biden's econmic advisor.  Now we are allowing people who broke the law coming to this country illegally to get away with it while we are intimidating our law enforcement (I feel for the people believe me, but the solution for law abding citizens is nt what Obama has decreed). When society has no laws or when they are applied unevenly people revolt...perhaps this is what Obama wants, perhaps this is His Hope for Change.  He has got to go!

Tue, 06/26/2012 - 09:58 | 2561337 Cloud9.5
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The rule of law has not applied since Jackson as evidenced by the Marshal Court and the Trail of Tears.  We delude ourselves gentlemen.  The law only applies to the little people.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 19:01 | 2559826 maximin thrax
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Chet, this is the Lie:"What this decision makes unmistakably clear is that Congress must act on comprehensive immigration reform."

No, what is made unmistakeably clear is that for the states to stop enforcing immigration laws on their own we need the federal government, led by the President, to enforce existing immigration law. We don't need any new laws, just a new President.

What Obama means is that he will continue to thwart federal and state immigration enforcement - not satisfied in simply being derlilict in his duty as chief executive but striving to undermine the laws he's sworn to uphold - until Congress passes a law he likes, which coincidentally will improve his electability among a certain demographic.

Of course, when no such law is legislated he'll simply make one happen by fiat.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 19:09 | 2559842 chet
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I understand your position.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 21:21 | 2560158 SilverIsKing
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"No American should ever live under a cloud of suspicion just because of what they look like."

That's the point, isn't it? Key word is American.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 23:07 | 2560445 eatthebanksters
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I'm white so I must be a racist.  I'm a conservative so I must be evil.  Talk about living under a cloud of suspicion!

Tue, 06/26/2012 - 14:21 | 2562339 Kobe Beef
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I don't mind being an "evil racist" if it means people like Obama remain my sworn enemies. Nowadays, I'd consider being an "evil racist" a compliment, considering the types of degenerate parasites likely to throw the accusation at me.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 19:14 | 2559854 john39
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allowing illegal immigration has always been what the banker cabal wanted....  dem or repub, doesn't matter...   same deal in Europe.  its part of destroying existing cultural norms and spreading racial/cultural infighting... ie, divide and conquer.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 20:24 | 2559997 Yousif
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I would argue that Hollywood and the education system have destroyed "existing cultural norms" more than any immigration policy (or the Chinese take-away just round the corner).

I don't ever see anyone complaining about heads of state (the real ones (TPTB)) being able to travel anywhere they want without passports etc.  They don't have any citizenship papers and so on.  No one talks about that.

Instead the modern peasant wants more controls and shackles.  It puzzles me that modern peasants are happy to place more restrictions on their mobility [1].  If the modern peasant is happy to watch their offspring get groped by total strangers in peasant air ports, then the initial statement is not too surprising really.

Some peasants are willing to partake in the "democratic" hoax and fund policies that create the "illegals", yet are not willing to confront the source of the issue but are simply content to moan about cultural norms.


Am I against immigration? No.  Am I against peasants immigrating to live off other peasants' backs? Yes.  Should peasants who can't stand each other be forced to co-exist? No.  Who should deal with these problems?  The community.

If a peasant is not willing to respect the community they are immigrating to then perhaps they should reconsider.

Just for the record:

Do I have a "cultural norm"? No.  I don't have a culture.  "Traditions" and "History" will not taint my judgement.

Do I associate with a peasant tax farm? No.  The tax farm I was delievered in does not represent me.

Do I have a "Nationality"? No, however,  I do (unfortunately) hold a passport which does not represent me or my ideals.

Do I recognize the current "tax farm borders"? No.

Am I a subject? Never.  Irrespective of the beliefs of the 21st Century kleptocracy and their Uruk-hai.

If you got this far, then I hope I'm not alone.


[1] Compare with all terrorism legislation, the modern peasant was told the legislation was for keeping them safe and to stop peasants with a darker complexion from harming them.  Yeah.  Right.

PS. I did not downvote your response as I agree with it.  "Multiculturism" is a means of "divide and conquer".

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 20:43 | 2560043 Randall Cabot
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The Culture of Critique

(hereafter, CofC

) was originally published in 1998

by Praeger Publishers, an imprint of Greenwood Publishing Group, Inc. The

thesis of the book is a difficult one indeed—difficult not only because it is

difficult to establish, but also because it challenges many fundamental

assumptions about our contemporary intellectual and political existence.

CofC describes how Jewish intellectuals initiated and advanced a number of

important intellectual and political movements during the 20th century.

that these movements are attempts to alter Western societies in a manner that

I argue

would neutralize or end anti-Semitism and enhance the prospects for Jewish

group continuity either in an overt or in a semi-cryptic manner. Several of these

Jewish movements (e.g., the shift in immigration policy favoring non-European

peoples) have attempted to weaken the power of their perceived competitors—

the European peoples who early in the 20th century had assumed a dominant

position not only in their traditional homelands in Europe, but also in the United

States, Canada, and Australia. At a theoretical level, these movements are viewed

as the outcome of conflicts of interest between Jews and non-Jews in the

construction of culture and in various public policy issues. Ultimately, these

movements are viewed as the expression of a group evolutionary strategy by

Jews in their competition for social, political and cultural dominance with non-


Chapter 7. Jewish Involvement In Shaping U.S. Immigration Policy ... 240

Scroll to Chapter 7:



Mon, 06/25/2012 - 22:00 | 2560246 redcorona
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Best post.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 23:20 | 2560470 my puppy for prez
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I would say that the Tavistock Institute is largely responsible for implementing these initiatives and providing "human relations" cover (i.e. Bernays, Lippman, Lewin, etc.)

A very good read about Tavistock is by John Coleman.  It revolutionized my thinking and showed a good deal of the Hidden Hand that is destroying America, if not the whole world.  Rothschilde funded, of course!

Tue, 06/26/2012 - 15:19 | 2562536 vened
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Rhodesia, South Africa demise... That's what coming to Whites in the US.


---Culture of Critique, Preface to the First Paperback Edition

Kevin MacDonald

Although there is much evidence that Europeans presented a spirited defense
of their cultural and ethnic hegemony in the early- to mid-20th century, their rapid
decline raises the question: What cultural or ethnic characteristics of Europeans
made them susceptible to the intellectual and political movements described in
CofC? The discussion in CofC focused mainly on a proposed nexus of
individualism, relative lack of ethnocentrism, and concomitant moral
universalism—all features that are entirely foreign to Judaism. In several places
in all three of my books on Judaism I develop the view that Europeans are
relatively less ethnocentric than other peoples and relatively more prone to
individualism as opposed to the ethnocentric collectivist social structures
historically far more characteristic of other human groups, including—relevant to
this discussion—Jewish groups. I update and extend these ideas here.

The basic idea is that European groups are highly vulnerable to invasion by
strongly collectivist, ethnocentric groups because individualists have less
powerful defenses against such groups.
 The competitive advantage of cohesive,
cooperating groups is obvious and is a theme that recurs throughout my trilogy
on Judaism. This scenario implies that European peoples are more prone to
individualism. Individualist cultures show little emotional attachment to
ingroups. Personal goals are paramount, and socialization emphasizes the
importance of self-reliance, independence, individual responsibility, and “finding
 (Triandis 1991, 82). Individualists have more positive attitudes toward
strangers and outgroup members and are more likely to behave in a pro-social,
altruistic manner to strangers. People in individualist cultures are less aware of
ingroup/outgroup boundaries and thus do not have highly negative attitudes
toward outgroup members. They often disagree with ingroup policy, show little
emotional commitment or loyalty to ingroups, and do not have a sense of
common fate with other ingroup members. Opposition to outgroups occurs in
individualist societies, but the opposition is more “rational” in the sense that
there is less of a tendency to suppose that all of the outgroup members are
culpable. Individualists form mild attachments to many groups, while
collectivists have an intense attachment and identification to a few ingroups
(Triandis 1990, 61). Individualists are therefore relatively ill-prepared for
between-group competition so characteristic of the history of Judaism.

Historically Judaism has been far more ethnocentric and collectivist than
typical Western societies. I make this argument in Separation and Its Discontents
(MacDonald 1998a; Ch. 1) and especially in A People That Shall Dwell Alone
(MacDonald 1994; Ch. 8), where I suggest that over the course of their recent
evolution, Europeans were less subjected to between-group natural selection than
Jews and other Middle Eastern populations. This was originally proposed by
Fritz Lenz (1931, 657) who suggested that, because of the harsh environment of
the Ice Age, the Nordic peoples evolved in small groups and have a tendency
toward social isolation rather than cohesive groups.
 This perspective would not
imply that Northern Europeans lack collectivist mechanisms for group
competition, but only that these mechanisms are relatively less elaborated and/or
require a higher level of group conflict to trigger their expression.

This perspective is consistent with ecological theory. Under ecologically
adverse circumstances, adaptations are directed more at coping with the adverse
physical environment than at competing with other groups (Southwood 1977,
1981), and in such an environment, there would be less pressure for selection for
extended kinship networks and highly collectivist groups. Evolutionary
conceptualizations of ethnocentrism emphasize the utility of ethnocentrism in
group competition. Ethnocentrism would thus be of no importance at all in
combating the physical environment, and such an environment would not support
large groups.

European groups are part of what Burton et al. (1996) term the North Eurasian
and Circumpolar culture area.9 This culture area derives from hunter-gatherers
adapted to cold, ecologically adverse climates. In such climates there is pressure
for male provisioning of the family and a tendency toward monogamy because
the ecology did not support either polygyny or large groups for an evolutionarily
significant period. These cultures are characterized by bilateral kinship
relationships which recognize both the male and female lines, suggesting a more
equal contribution for each sex as would be expected under conditions of
monogamy. There is also less emphasis on extended kinship relationships and
marriage tends to be exogamous (i.e., outside the kinship group). As discussed
below, all of these characteristics are opposite those found among Jews.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 21:04 | 2560119 nmewn
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"If you got this far, then I hope I'm not alone.
You are not.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 21:43 | 2560214 Freddie
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The vice chairman of Goldman gave a speech to the House of Lords the other day.  He is also on a UN migration panel.  He was pushing more invasion into Europe because it needed to be more multicultural.  They can keep us as serfs if they flood the west with illegals.  This is the plan.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 22:34 | 2560385 palmereldritch
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The 'illegals' are kindling for the globalist arsonists.

The key is not to fuel their fire of destruction, reduction and opportunity.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 19:36 | 2559920 FEARTHESHARK

You are aware that illegal immigration did not start under President Obama, and in fact is at the lowest levels in decades (due to our horrible economy).  Aside from racism, what the fuck is the potency of this issue at this point in time? 

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 20:34 | 2560032 maximin thrax
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I quoted our current president, who stated we need comprehensive immigration reform in lieu of state-by-state action. It's HIS issue. But he can get the states out of the illegal immigrant business if he'd just get the Federal government back into the illegal immigration business. Obama's position is to make damned sure border states like Arizona get overrun by illegals until Congress passes a law he's willing to enforce. That's extortion. What does any of that have to do with racism?

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 20:46 | 2560068 Randall Cabot
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Most people are too dumb to process this book-even here on ZH, but if anyone really wants to understand how this once great society has fallen to such lows you should read Culture of Critique:


Mon, 06/25/2012 - 23:12 | 2560454 my puppy for prez
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Good one!  I have heard of it before, but haven't read it, so I took a look at the link.  I can definitely handle this, and it looks extremely fascinating.  

Have you read any Nesta Webster?  Her works are quite stout.  I would suggest her book on Revolution, then follow up with "Secret Societies and Subversive Movements".  Quite the researcher and grammatical gymnast she was.  Here Britishness really comes through in her writing style.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 19:11 | 2559848 IndicaTive
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Fuck Obama. Fuck them all. i just spent an hour or so finding--and destroying-- carpenter ant colonies that surround my fucking "american dream" that has lost 20% of its "value" thank you very much. Wells Fargo is basically willing to suck my dick for a refinance because I told them Francis, at my community bank, will come within an eighth point. Fuck Romney, he's the same scummy motherfucker as Obama, but he's got that white corporate raider thing going against him. I say let the hard-working motherfuckers come on in. Give them a card that says "I've been checked out, I'm a temporary worker, I'll do stuff more efficiently and for a better price so put me on the grid pendejo!" And I will tip well.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 19:50 | 2559950 Fukushima Sam
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Actually, they are happy to refinance because then the paperwork problem with your existing mortgage will go away.  Tell your mortgage company to show you their clear claim to title.  If they can't do that then are you sure you are paying the right creditor?

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 20:06 | 2559984 IndicaTive
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I heart ZH.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 21:56 | 2560257 francis_sawyer
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I happened to eat lunch the other week at an all you can eat chinese buffet (where only the cash register guy spoke broken english... The place was full of latino construction & landscaping workers...

I just had to laugh at the absurdity (or not) of it all...

To make the story even better, I finish eating, walk out to my car, & there's about a half dozen police patrol vehicles parked in the lot... I guess they were having lunch at the place next door (which wasn't a donut shop)...

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 23:31 | 2560493 Ignatius
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Chet:  "'Enamates' isn't a word."

But "enema" is....

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 19:46 | 2559941 Bawneee Fwank
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@Colombian Gringo

"Dreams from my real father" by Joel Gilbert

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 22:55 | 2560421 eatthebanksters
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The corpus survived, the mutations were aborted...

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 18:28 | 2559747 Tarheel
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only obama would sue the state of arizona for trying to protect their border

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 18:38 | 2559777 Tirpitz
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Don't forget: somewhere he got in as well.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 19:30 | 2559902 narapoiddyslexia
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And so did your ancestors.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 19:59 | 2559970 narapoiddyslexia
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Apparently, the truth hurts? Not surprising. Its hard to be a credible nationalist in a country where you're an immigrant or a recent descendant of immigrants. Recent being less than about five generations. Me, I'm seventh generation English, so all you pollacks and catholics and jews and germans and eyeties can get the hell out.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 20:28 | 2560013 nmewn
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Your English ancestors came here illegally...really?

Thats a helluva got gills?

Tue, 06/26/2012 - 08:35 | 2561072 narapoiddyslexia
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Irony is dead. When did it die? I missed the obit...

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 20:25 | 2560014 Terrorist
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We should have shot all you arrogant fuckers 200 years ago.

Tue, 06/26/2012 - 08:36 | 2561077 narapoiddyslexia
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There's missing irony, which is one thing, and then there's plain, brutish stupidity.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 21:43 | 2560220 HoofHearted
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Yeah, well you got NOTHING on Elizabeth Warren. 1/128 of her ancestors were here from the beginning. So suck that Paranoid dyslexic. (I'm in much better shape as my Cherokee heritage goes back to a grandfather that I only met once in my life. So I'm 4x more native than Elizabeth Warren. Now if I just would have known what a big deal that is when I applied to college. Shit. Always a day late...except when "my people" came across on the land bridge. Smallpox ridden limey....)

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 22:33 | 2560383 Freddie
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Goldman Sachs chairman supports massive illegal immigration and multiculturalism like you do.

The EU should "do its best to undermine" the "homogeneity" of its member states, the UN's special representative for migration has said.

Peter Sutherland told peers the future prosperity of many EU states depended on them becoming multicultural.

Mr Sutherland, who is non-executive chairman of Goldman Sachs International and a former chairman of oil giant BP, heads the Global Forum on Migration and Development, which brings together representatives of 160 nations to share policy ideas.

Tue, 06/26/2012 - 08:37 | 2561080 narapoiddyslexia
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 But wait! I'm against multiculturalism. I want all the catholics to go home. Rome awaits them.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 22:57 | 2560427 my puppy for prez
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Whoa, dude!  Next thing you are going to tell us is that you are of one of the 13 bloodlines of the Illuminati...the Merovingian sort!

Now THAT would really impress....

Tue, 06/26/2012 - 10:38 | 2561471 Cloud9.5
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You are right.  My grandparents were probably illegals.  They came out of Mexico during the revolution and fled all the way to Montanan to get away from the border turmoil.  We are thoroughly Anglicized.  None of the third generation speaks Spanish.  We are all protestant and tend to vote Republican.  None of us are on public assistance.  Most of us are college educated.  My son is an attorney.  Our driving principle has always been for the next generation to achieve more than the generation that preceded it.    Assimilation is the key.  Multiculturalism is another word for balkanization.  In the event of a collapse, it will lead to regional genocide and ethnic cleansing.  Read James Waller, Becoming Evil.



Mon, 06/25/2012 - 18:40 | 2559783 you enjoy myself
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what, and sacrifice the illegal vote?  get your priorities straight, man.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 20:28 | 2560019 Bill D. Cat
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What part of illegal can't people comprehend ?

Tue, 06/26/2012 - 00:26 | 2560565 merizobeach
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This part: "Laws are for followers".

Any government, I don't care which, can stuff their "authority" up their own asses.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 19:06 | 2559837 Vaiman
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I think it has been quite obvious for a long time that the elected governments are not interested in being patriotic.  They march to a different drum beat.  The one that has been building for a long time....the new world order drum beat.  As long as they cater to that one, they figure they will have a place in new world politics.  Especially this one....Mr Obama...double talking....wordly....ungodly....need i say more???   Anyone who supports the destruction of unborn innocent human beings is deceived by evil.  He talks about a better future for our young people yet his policy allows the destruction of the youngest of all....unborn babies.  If we would stop abortion we wouldn't need immigration because we would have future men and women right now living and working as born citizens in our countries.  I mean Canada too.  I don't mean to sound like a religious fanatic, but  I can't help but see the four horsemen of the apocalypse are riding faster as the day approaches folks.  I see bible prophecy coming to pass every day and it concerns me for those who have not yet asked the Lord Jesus into their hearts to be their saviour.  All hell is going to break loose and I'm ready for the Lord's command to evacuate those who belong to him before his judgement is poured out.  Obama and all those who are giving their homage to the system of the to be them is all i can say!!    

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 19:14 | 2559855 WillyGroper
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Considering 1 in 7 are on SNAP, I guess it's a matter of methods & timing for the destruction of human beings. Hail to the thieves.

Tue, 06/26/2012 - 00:30 | 2560571 merizobeach
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You would legislate what a woman would do with her own body?  Fuck you, you arrogant fascist.  And furthermore, keep your stupid religious bullshit to yourself, asshole.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 18:09 | 2559693 RacerX
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"Immigration Reform" = Code for "open up the floodgates"


I absolutely don't get what's so difficult about bouncing people that are here illegally.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 18:17 | 2559720 Clowns on Acid
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Racer - Nothing diffcult, which is why Obama is so transparent in his policy "to change the color of America".

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 19:38 | 2559921 FEARTHESHARK

I guess Bush was your idea of a strong border protecting president? 

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 22:55 | 2560420 my puppy for prez
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You have already been told AT LEAST once on this thread that ZHers loathe and detest Bush, so quit with the cry baby stuff, or go back to HuffPo.  

There is enough happening about which to tear one's hair out without reactive partisans like you.

Hint:  Partisans don't last long around here.  Got it? 

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 18:21 | 2559725 lemonobrien
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yeah, we needs new slaves to buy shits. american dreams.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 19:42 | 2559934 IndicaTive
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I'm with you. But Johnny Walker begs to differ. At this stage of the game, should they all be bounced? Just wondering: How about we set up one of the Mexicans wanting in, at a table, opposite some degenerate citizen motherfucker that you can pluck from Walmart on any given day (certain days of the month, even better), give them an aptitude and IQ test and 10 minutes to free-style rap about why they should be allowed to be here.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 20:41 | 2560046 ZeroAvatar
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I asked a 'mexican-looking' individual in a pickup truck directions to a local biker shindig.  He just shook his head, both times.  He didn't understand a word I said. Yesterday.


There's America, then there's the 'other' world. The one where you can't communicate. Lack of communication breeds distrust. Inability to communicate with another causes the downfall of societies.  (See as reference:  Tower of Babel).

Tue, 06/26/2012 - 00:43 | 2560583 merizobeach
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I'd be ashamed if I lived in America for more than a couple years and didn't speak basic English.  By now though, I'd also be ashamed if I'd lived my whole life in America and didn't speak basic Spanish.

Here in Taiwan, although a much more ethnically homogenous country than the US, local people all speak at least two languages, many speak three or four.  Inability to communicate is a tremendous disservice to oneself.

Tue, 06/26/2012 - 08:50 | 2561118 Uncle Remus
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By now though, I'd also be ashamed if I'd lived my whole life in America and didn't speak basic Spanish.

I didn't red or green you, but you might want to elaborate on that. I understand from your second paragraph what appears to be the premise for that, and had you stated "didn't speak a second language", I'd have agreed.

I should be more conversant in Spanish than I am, but only because it would likely benefit me economically, not because of the fact that my country has been illegally overrun by Spanish speaking peoples.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 18:09 | 2559698 fonzannoon
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I am not a big Jon Stewart guy but he was ahead of everyone on this.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 19:03 | 2559829 bdc63
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thanks for posting that ... i AM a big john stewart fan and missed that episode.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 19:32 | 2559906 fonzannoon
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(secretely so am I)

Tue, 06/26/2012 - 01:31 | 2560631 Clashfan
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John Stewart was beyond horrible to the 911 truth folks. Something's badly wrong w/him.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 18:10 | 2559701 TheObsoleteMan
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What do you expect? He is illegal himself! He is just looking out for his "peeps".

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 18:33 | 2559764 Goldilocks
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The Slight Shove - Occupier in Chief (2:03)

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 18:11 | 2559703 FL_Conservative
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"I'm willing to work with anyone in Congress...."

who is willing to produce legislation that I want produced.

Spoken like the tyrant in-chief that we've come to know (and loathe).

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 18:35 | 2559771 Rainman
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....' come hither, he sayeth, and kiss my half black ass ' 

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 19:05 | 2559834 nmewn
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He is acting like a spoiled little brat prince isn't he?

Arrogance combined with incompetence is something to behold.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 20:22 | 2560011 BandGap
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No, it's quite brilliant. He is sowing as much chaos as possible.  That way an authority will have to assume power, even if that authority is under a new administration. He could give two shits about immigrants. Look how he absolutely ignored campaign promises. He kept what he wanted (Guantanamo, the Patriot Act) to better serve later. Now he sows as much churn into the system as possible. We see the trees today but the forest is fundementally changing. No matter who wins in the fall nerves have been frayed, lines have been drawn. Romney is big money, possibly a sacrificial lamb when the dollar tanks. What better target than the president placed there by "big money".

Kill business while blaming business. Get as many as possible on the government dole. Piss as many sides off as you can. And if you don't like it, you're racist!


Mon, 06/25/2012 - 20:39 | 2560044 nmewn
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"No, it's quite brilliant. He is sowing as much chaos as possible."

Agree up to a point.

He's trying to stir as much shit up from the bottom of the pot as possible. To take everyones eye off his own incompetence.

As far as a "dear leader" type (him or Romney) that ain't gonna happen...I have enough faith in both Blue & Red to know it won't happen...combine TP & OWS and you get "change".

Its the last thing they (and he) want.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 19:40 | 2559929 FEARTHESHARK

You are a piece of work.  I guess you missed the 8 years prior to Obama where the previous president simply considered any political opponent as a treasonous al Qaeda sympathizer, or the current Republican Congressional lineup whose idea of "negotiation" is "never compromise".  To suggest that Obama is the prime example of tyranny in recent American history is to expose yourself for the full-fledged racist piece of shit that you are.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 20:33 | 2560031 Bill D. Cat
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Booosh !!!!!!  and the race card all in one screed ..... well played .

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 20:40 | 2560049 overmedicatedun...
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no matter how clearly it is explained to those who oppose legal immigration vs open borders, no matter how much it supports the NWO elites plan they glow in the knife across the throat of a society based on law..why complain about jon corzine? banksters acting above the law? the pc socialists walk around with eyes wide shut.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 20:46 | 2560071 ZeroAvatar
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Sorry, that 'racist' thing?  Sorry to be the one to tell you, that doesn't work anymore.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 21:11 | 2560136 GCT
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Feather you might want to go back to huffpo.  We all know about Bush and presidents before Obama.  Your barking up the wrong tree here.  He is currently the sitting pres.  I cannot help your hero and chief lied to you as much as he did everyone else.  Wake up Dems and Repubs one and the same. 

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 18:13 | 2559706 TrainWreck1
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"I am pleased that the Supreme Court has struck down key provisions of my healthcare program. What this decision makes unmistakably clear is that Congress must act on comprehensive healthcare reform. A patchwork of legal thingamajigs is not a solution to our broken healthcare system—it’s part of the problem."

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 18:12 | 2559708 New_Meat
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man, TOTUS is one mean dude, especially given the tools that it has to deal with.

poor electronic thingie, and the poor thingie has zero legs.

four legs good, two legs bad, but we have no guidance on the populace with zero legs.  I betcha' tho' that this undocumented population will also be granted the right to vote.

don't cha' know.

- Ned

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 18:13 | 2559711 GeezerGeek
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At least he didn't blame anything on Bush this time. Now if only someone could get him to enforce existing law rather than exempting millions from its applicaiton.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 18:15 | 2559713 nmewn
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"Furthermore, we will continue to enforce our immigration laws by focusing on our most important priorities like border security and criminals who endanger our communities, and not, for example, students who earn their education—which is why the Department of Homeland Security announced earlier this month that it will lift the shadow of deportation from young people who were brought to the United States as children through no fault of their own."

I think it was a shot at Scalia...Scalia brought up O'Barry's election year pandering in the Az case.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 18:21 | 2559728 Mitzibitzi
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Correct me if I'm wrong here... but doesn't the UN convention on human rights say something about a guarantee that an individual will not be barred from a normal family life? So if DHS is giving amnesty to the kids (who I must agree are not generally guilty of illegal immigration if dragged across the border by their parents) then you can't kick out the parents either, once their kids have been deemed to be 'integrated' - family and that!

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 18:27 | 2559743 nmewn
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My feelings on the UN aside...his decision...not DHS's, to do this is back door amnesty through non-enforcement of law.

Here's his latest "under the radar" approach...he won't accept calls from Az police on ANY illegal aliens now.

The lawlessness continues.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 19:21 | 2559873 blunderdog
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This should be easy enough to understand, but I'll spell it out: that was an unequivocal statement that State governments can't set the priorities for Federal enforcement because obviously you didn't really get it.

You may dislike the decision because this time it's about illegals, but if it were California demanding EPA or OSHA investigation in Nevada or Oregon, the point of that policy announcement might've been more obvious to you.

One way or the other--it's all good news.  Far better for government to be fighting ITSELF than us. 

(As an aside, the Washington Times is comparable to Mother Jones in terms of reporting bias.  Yay, Israel!)

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 20:18 | 2559903 nmewn
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You dispute the veracity of what the WT is reporting?...yes or no.

"...that was an unequivocal statement that State governments can't set the priorities for Federal enforcement because obviously you didn't really get it."

Violation of a national border is one of the main priorities to even have a federal government slick. Otherwise the individual states or individual citizens will pick up the slack.

If thats what you want, I'm good with it too.


I'll now take your silence on the truth of the link I provided as a don't dispute >>>the truth<<< of it.

Better luck next time. Have a state approved, thimble sized Bloomberg Coke on me ;-)

Tue, 06/26/2012 - 09:30 | 2561251 blunderdog
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You just can't deal with the conflict, eh?

Despite being generally opposed to a large/powerful central government, you cry like a little girl as soon as the Feds WON'T do something you WANT.

So in this story, you get to wail and gnash teeth because "ZOMG THEY WON'T ENFORCE THE LAWS, WAAAAHHHH!" but as I mentioned, if it were the EPA or OSHA and they WERE "enforcing the law" you'd be shrieking about the tyranny of central power.

One thing's for sure: government behavior will *never* match up to your infantile expectations, so you may as well join me in anarchism and start taking some fucking responsibility for solving your own problems.

(BTW: In keeping with your infantile nature, I realize my failure to respond within a few hours would be distressing.  However, I wasn't "silent" about this--I just wasn't here.  I usually have better things to do than try to help you come to terms with the way the universe is.  And finally: the Washington Times is a rag--if you're the type of person EVER to question the legitimacy of a "news source," you should look for a better one that that piece of shit.  This has nothing to do with "veracity."  Even Rosie O'Donnell has made true statements.  She's still a worthless blowhard.)

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 18:39 | 2559779 NotApplicable
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You're wrong. Never, EVER apply logic to governing bodies, as you'll only give their sophism more credence.

It also implies you're confusing actions with intentions.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 18:40 | 2559781 lizzy36
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Scalia OFFSIDE comments today, bring the whole Court and the justice is proports to adminster into disrepute.

A sitting Justice is ONLY supossed to comment in an opinion/decision on policy matters directly before SCOTUS. 

Scalia stated:

that the court’s decision to strike down key provisions of the immigration law “boggles the mind” given President Barack Obama’s recent policy shift that stopped the deportation of some children of illegal immigrants.

This is pure partisanship. It should scare the hell out of any American who still believes that the "rule of law" is the cornerstone of democracy.

I am not an American but this type of partisan ruling is what is generally found in 3rd world banana republics for whom the justice system is merely an arm of the ruling kleptocratic party.

Ignoring relevant jurisprudence and having justices use their authority to make naked partisan rulings, (or in this case opine in a dissent from the bench) should be unacceptable to a country that was once as great as the USA.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 18:55 | 2559813 chet
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Scalia wants to be a politician.  He doesn't have the decency to quit the bench and run for office.  Instead he's going to be politician from the bench.  He also likes to go around giving speeches where he reveals how he would decide on issues that aren't even before the court yet. 

At least the others make an attempt to appear impartial.  Leaving poor Kennedy in the middle as the lone person really making these decisions.  At a constant 5/4 split the SC is just another political body like Congress except we can't vote them out.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 19:15 | 2559860 nmewn
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"At least the others make an attempt to appear impartial."

When Ginsberg et al vote to not force commerce on anyone standing on a street corner and to not fine anyone for not buying something from a private corporation at that street corner...I'll believe that statement.

There is the overpowering, nanny state, suffocating, statist should be 9-0 striking down the individual mandate.

Wouldn't you agree? ;-)

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 19:45 | 2559940 Shizzmoney
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They are ALL activist Judges.....whose feet cannot be held to the fire


Tue, 06/26/2012 - 08:57 | 2561143 Uncle Remus
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Ah, but immortality eludes them still, praise the gods.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 19:01 | 2559827 nmewn
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Scalia has always been...mercurial ;-)

Care to comment on Obama's directive to not accept calls regarding suspected illegals from local police in Az? It is a lawfu lfederal responsibility.

Its unacceptable to say we're going to be too busy a week from Tuesday to accept your call.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 19:04 | 2559831 pods
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We have been a bananaless republic for a long time.

There is case law (from the SCOTUS) that property can be seized for the public good (Kelo).
Don't get me started on the civil forfeiture laws.

The law is there to protect those who control the "lawmakers," nothing more.

If all the laws of the were applied to everyone, I am sure that every single person here would be a felon for breaking some obtuse or arcane law.

I say something like this is good, lets remove the veil that we are a nation of laws.

Laws are for the small people. See the state AG's deal with the crimes of the mortgage industry.  

But no, we cannot punish known forged documents submitted to a court.  We are too busy going after a baseball player for lying to the liars.


Mon, 06/25/2012 - 19:22 | 2559880 nmewn
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+1 for remembering Kelo & Clemens & small people everywhere, subjected to being governed by their inferiors.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 19:47 | 2559944 lizzy36
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Thanks for the reminder (re kelo)

As a Canadian with an actual LL.B every time a a SCOTUS justice opens his/her mouth in a blatanly partisan manner I just cringe.  

I would like to hear what Blunderdog has to say on this issue....i always learn something when he speaks to these matters.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 21:09 | 2560128 r00t61
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"The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws."


Tue, 06/26/2012 - 03:27 | 2560700 CCanuck
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I am sure it has been said before,

The "JUSTUS" system, it applies to, just us, not them. (Law makers, and enforcement)


Mon, 06/25/2012 - 19:07 | 2559839 Mark123
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I've got news for you Lizzy....the SC has been abused as a political tool for many years (decades).  The last few appointees "boggle the mind".


Corruption checklist:

President - check

Congress - check

Senate - check

Supreme Court - check

All state governments - check

Miliatry - almost there


Mon, 06/25/2012 - 19:12 | 2559851 1100-TACTICAL-12
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If the gov is'nt following the law's. Why should we the people follow them? And how much longer do we regonize this unlawful group of userpers as our rulers. I for one am becoming more disgusted by the day. And the sad part is Romney ain't no fuckin different than the rest of the assholes runnin this show. Right into the fuckin ground I might add. But I guess I need not get pissed after all it's all part of the plan.

Tue, 06/26/2012 - 10:55 | 2561546 Cloud9.5
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Cause they will kill you if you step over the line.

Tue, 06/26/2012 - 03:22 | 2560698 CCanuck
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You hit it on the head with:

I am not an American but this type of partisan ruling is what is generally found in 3rd world banana republics for whom the justice system is merely an arm of the ruling kleptocratic party.

Conditioning, get you used to living 3rd World.


Mon, 06/25/2012 - 18:21 | 2559724 caimen garou
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most important priorities like border security, ha, by giving arms to the cartel! that's working great....

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 18:43 | 2559791 Tirpitz
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Outsorcing to a cheaper contractor that is.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 18:21 | 2559729 The Gooch
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Red White & Brown!

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 18:28 | 2559751 LoneStarHog
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Fuck You, Obozo! -- There, no spin!

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 18:32 | 2559758 JohnG
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I just never have quite gotten what they don't understand about the simple word ILLEGAL.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 18:44 | 2559792 NotApplicable
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How about, they ARE the law?

Besides, what are written laws but the decree of a tiny minority (of criminals, nonetheless), who are never present at their application?

Real laws, meanwhile, don't need to be written or decreed, as they are observed by everyone who just wants to get along in peace. "But what about the non-peaceful people?" you might be asking yourself.

Stop voting for them!

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 18:52 | 2559810 JohnG
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Non-peaceful people get a bullet.

I've been writing in Ron Paul since 1998, otherwise I vote against incumbents, always, every chance I get.  It really is the best I can do without a good sniper rifle.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 19:22 | 2559879 harleyjohn45
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Since you are writing a name in, you might as well stay home and save the gas.

The next president will be a D or R.  If you think they are equally bad, you should just stay home.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 21:06 | 2560120 ZeroAvatar
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Yeah, just stay home, let Obummer have 4 MORE years to destroy the country!  Not me.  I'm voting, and I'm voting for ROMNEY.  Hey, have you ever met a Mormon?  The are a good, decent bunch of people, I'll tell you that.  And they have principles, and morals.  Romney might ACTUALLY change things for the better.


Vote Romney 2012!  ANYTHING BUT OBAMA! 2013

Tue, 06/26/2012 - 01:09 | 2560615 merizobeach
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You are a sheeple.  Obama follows the same agenda that was given to Bush, and Romney, if given a chance, would follow the exact same agenda.  That's why he got the party's nomination!

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 19:22 | 2559876 blunderdog
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What do you think it means?

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 19:26 | 2559889 Dr. Sandi
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You mean like speeding?

Cheating on your taxes?


Refusing to be groped by a duly appointed federal agent?

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 18:32 | 2559762 Bay of Pigs
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It is such twisted fucking logic...

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 18:42 | 2559787 shovelhead
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Okay, do I have this right?

An American can be detained indefinitely and tortured but an illegal alien cannot be offended by asking to see their papers.

Just checking.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 18:45 | 2559794 NotApplicable
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Divide and Conquer, FTMFW!

Tue, 06/26/2012 - 09:01 | 2561157 Uncle Remus
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That's "M" as in Muppet, right?

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 18:49 | 2559795 Tirpitz
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The guests won't claim the second amendment... nor would they think about joining that dangerous Occupy Wall Street movement.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 18:51 | 2559805 dwdollar
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Yeah that's right. Just have a few beers and pop a Xanax. You'll be feeling like another apathetic American in no time.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 20:28 | 2560018 Normalcy Bias
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That sounds about right, except Prez0 can have you killed, simply if he deems you a threat. We have a govt/MIC that obviously loves perpetual war. The newly disturbing thing is that the latest war appears to be against the average American citizen.

Tue, 06/26/2012 - 01:30 | 2560630 merizobeach
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"The newly disturbing thing is that the latest war appears to be against the average American citizen."

Glad that you're aware of it now, but this 'latest war' is NOT NEW AT ALL.  It's older than the bombing of the twin towers and building seven; it's older than the partial demolition of the federal building in OKC and the murder of police officer Terrance Yeakey; and it's older than the FBI's bombing of the WTC's basement in 1993.  I'd also say it's older than the other false flag events that took America to war against Vietnam, Japan in WWII, and Germany in WWI, older than the confiscation of gold by FDR, and at least as old as the formation of the FRB, which is a primary tool for the enslavement of the populace.

Tue, 06/26/2012 - 10:03 | 2561354 Normalcy Bias
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Point taken. However, I was really speaking to the fact that they don't even try to hide it anymore...

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 18:43 | 2559789 ebworthen
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"I'm the President and I'm campaigning; I will not allow the law or legal U.S. Citizens or the Legislative Branch to get in the way of my re-election.

This is about power and money, and perception management.

Besides, American corporations and members of the 1% need more cheap slave labor from people we can look down our noses at, so shut up and get back to work.

I'm going to Hawaii for a vacation with Michelle, the girls, and our retinue of 300."

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 19:57 | 2559972 slewie the pi-rat
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we gots prez0 & immigration [a feature comedy in itself],  the supremes, arizona, at-the-store-while-bring-hispanic good/bad cop laws, healthcare, da border, the foist family, scalia & liz_Z, the election, and tyler, too...

i was thinking the poor girls!  aren't they right about the age where they are just totally embarassed by all this phony crap and just want to go climb a tree or something? 

they are probably sooo rooting for mittens they may start blogging here...

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 19:07 | 2559833 bdc63
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this is a side show ... do not be distracted, the main event is coming soon ...

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 19:06 | 2559836 Lore
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As a Canadian visitor with no record AND MONEY IN MY POCKET coming into the USA, I resent being detained, frisked, patted down, scanned and dog-sniffed.

I am not treated this way "BECAUSE OF WHAT I LOOK LIKE."  I am a senior professional with no debt and money in my pocket, and I get treated like livestock.

...Or maybe I am treated this way "BECAUSE OF WHAT I LOOK LIKE."  The message I receive is that my presence AND MY MONEY is not welcome.

Message received, loud and clear.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 19:12 | 2559845 bdc63
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don't take it too personally ... I am an unmistakable American and they treat me the same freakin way ... part of Homeland Security's "conditioning" process. 

but I guess we deserve it.  when presented with the choice, the American sheeple picked "security" over "liberty".  stick a fork in us, 'cause we are DONE.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 19:33 | 2559909 The Gooch
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The "sheeple" did not have a vote on Patriot Act, NDAA, etc...
if you're done, stick a fork in yourself.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 19:41 | 2559932 nmewn
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My sentiments exactly.

Tue, 06/26/2012 - 01:35 | 2560636 merizobeach
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Nice sentiment, but American society is the new hell.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 20:59 | 2560064 PulpCutter
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2001 Patriot Act vote tally in House: 66 against; 62 Democrats, 3 Republicans

2006 Patriot Act renewal vote tally in House: 138 against; 124 Democrats, 13 Republicans

2006 Patriot Act renewal vote tally in Senate: 10 against: 9 Democrats, 0 Republican, 1 independent


Mon, 06/25/2012 - 20:50 | 2560065 PulpCutter
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Blame it on anyone who voted Republican.  Check the voting records; virtually the only votes against the Patriot Act - and particularly against it's reauthorization, were from Democrats. Obama vetoed NDAA the first time around.

It's the GOP pushing this police-state crap.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 22:40 | 2560391 my puppy for prez
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Plenty of Dems voted FOR both Patriot and NDAA.  Besides...the partisan divide is an ILLUSION.

Tue, 06/26/2012 - 00:09 | 2560544 PulpCutter
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Look at the vote tallies, below, numbnuts.  Stop chanting right-wing bullshit.

Tue, 06/26/2012 - 01:39 | 2560640 Clashfan
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Pulp, I think it's pretty obvious that many of the anti votes could be posturing. If they have room to posture w/out affecting the outcome, they are allowed to do so.

Enough Ds are always on board for the fugly shit to happen. Never wonder why? It's a show, man.

Tue, 06/26/2012 - 00:19 | 2560554 Cathartes Aura
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(I don't vote, never have, and don't believe you could slide a piece of paper between the "sides" - but your post is still a truth that doesn't get acknowledged much here at the 'Hedge - even now peeps talking about voting Romney. . . surreal. . .)

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 19:11 | 2559847 Mr.Kowalski
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If you were smart, you'd take take that money and invest it elsewhere. Just look at it as us doing you a favor dude. 

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 19:43 | 2559935 Shizzmoney
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This is big reason World Series of Poker head counts are down this year; the Euros/Brazilians are sick and tired of the hassle across the border...especially since they need to bring dough to play with.

Plus in their countries, they can actually play online :(

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 20:13 | 2559991 slewie the pi-rat
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the cards are running bad for slewie

i played in a 10K$ yesterday and just died tryin along the backstretch 

when you're not, you're not...

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 20:39 | 2560001 Normalcy Bias
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Since I can't play poker/sports wager online, I sure wish Mr. Frist would've had the courtesy to teach me how to "time the market"...

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 20:47 | 2560066 nmewn
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Hangin with the wrong crowd...shoulda tried Kerry, Dodd or Fwank.

Dodd was a Friend of Angelo...he coulda hooked ya up goin both ways...not that theres anything wrong with that ;-)

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 22:03 | 2560281 toomanyfakecons...
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The Canadian border patrol tore my car apart for 3 hours on the way into Canada a year or two after 9-11. No record and shopping money in hand...

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 19:20 | 2559871 MFL8240
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Whatever it takes to divert from his abysmal economic record and play into the dependency crowd, expect it from the Clown.

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