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Obama Now Scrambles To Approve Transcanada Pipeline... Or At Least Half Of It; Environmentalists Furious

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What a difference two months of record high gas prices make. After Obama unceremoniously killed the Keystone XL pipeline proposal in January, and has since seen his popularity rating slide in inverse proportion to the surge in gas prices, which as noted yesterday have now passed $4 (still quite a bit better than Europe's $9.81 average/gallon), he is now actively seeking to fast-track its approval. Or at least half of it. Per Reuters: "President Barack Obama will issue a memo on Thursday directing federal agencies to prioritize permitting of TransCanada's southern leg of the Keystone oil pipeline, a senior White House official said on Wednesday. With his Republican opponents hammering away at the president over high gasoline prices, Obama will visit Cushing, Oklahoma on Thursday to promote his energy policies, which include support for the southern leg of the pipeline."

It gets funnier:

But TransCanada has not yet applied to build the southern leg, so it remains uncertain exactly which agencies would need to grant permits. Fish and Wildlife, the Environmental Protection Agency and the Army Corps of Engineers are some that would almost certainly would have to sign off.

 

TransCanada will also need permits from Oklahoma and Texas which could slow the process.

 

The memo "directs federal agencies to name the Cushing pipeline as a top priority of the new executive orders' expedited permitting process," the official told reporters in a conference call. The memo will also push the agencies to prioritize other oil pipelines that would relieve bottlenecks getting petroleum to market

So let's get this straight: Obama is seeking to fast-track an "application" which has not "applied", and even if he does approve it, at least three other agencies' palms will have to be greased. In the meantime, nobody knows what happens with the other half.

In the meantime, while nothing at all is certain to get done for years to alleviate the Cushing Congestion, the environmentalist have finally realized they too were just Corzined:

Environmentalists are crestfallen. They've mounted a massive campaign against Keystone XL, assailing the plan to transport millions of barrels a week of bitumen from the Alberta oilsands — an energy source they decry as "dirty oil" — through six U.S. states to Texas refineries.

 

"The administration cannot purport to protect the climate while simultaneously bending over backward to allow a pipeline to the continent's biggest carbon bomb," Kim Huynh of Friends of the Earth said in a statement.

 

Huynh wondered if environmentalists have been snookered.

 

"Was the president's initial rejection of the Keystone XL simply a farce to temporarily appease the environmental voters who dared to hold him to his own promises about real leadership on the climate and shifting to 21st-century clean energy solutions? It would seem so."

 

Bill McKibben, who spearheaded several White House anti-pipeline protests last summer, noted that some had suggested Obama rejected

Keystone XL for purely political purposes.

Then again this is all in a day's work for the man who has just succeeded in bringing YTD debt issuance to a record $122 billion over net tax refunds as of today.

 

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Wed, 03/21/2012 - 18:22 | 2278035 transaccountin
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Pathetic

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 18:27 | 2278051 SHEEPFUKKER
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He did promise change.....as in change his mind. 

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 18:48 | 2278097 Fluffybunny
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The sad part is that it's against Obama's "principles" and he doesn't even believe it will help with oil prices (whatever the real result may be).

 

Yet he goes ahead with this just to eliminate one republican talking point and pander to the public. Going to be a tight competition between the two master floppers, Romney and Obama.

 

 

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 19:06 | 2278150 covsire
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What's sad is how he really does eliminate that talking point.. He's doing exactly nothing at all to build it and yet he and his cronies in the media will trumpet it.  In reality he's building the walls of a bomb shelter with no roof and claiming credit for the whole shelter.  Top it off with that moron Boehner who won't be able to get 2 words out about the trickery of it all.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 19:20 | 2278209 CrazyCooter
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If I read this correctly, the "southern leg" would connect Cushing to the gulf, correct?

If so, this means that the WTI/Brent spread might see some compression if this segment opens up.

This may have nothing to do with bitumen and everything to do with getting bakken oil to global markets.

Regards,

Cooter

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 19:26 | 2278236 Real Money Wins
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John Corzine would be proud of his buddy Barak. It takes skilled and quick hands to play the shell game and win so that those playing against you think you did it legal and didn't cheat.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 20:16 | 2278451 economics9698
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Obama would suck cock on pay per view to get re-elected.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 21:33 | 2278688 The Big Ching-aso
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Ya know, the really sad part is even if they do the pipeline the Saudi's would then cut back production, jack up prices, and we'd still be fucked.

Thu, 03/22/2012 - 02:20 | 2279523 AldousHuxley
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There are environmentalists in TEXAS?

 

anyway environmentalists are Ted Turner employees just trying to protect his ranch.

 

Republicans love this government pork in their own backyard for jobs and shit.

Thu, 03/22/2012 - 08:30 | 2279902 Bicycle Repairman
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LOL.  Doesn't Obama know about EROI?????

The Canadian tar sands actually have negative net energy.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 19:27 | 2278239 Matt
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Wouldn't alleviating the bottleneck at Cushing cause oil, and as a result, gasoline, prices in North America to INCREASE?

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 19:35 | 2278270 CrazyCooter
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That is precisely my point.

The upper part of the pipe line got sacked. This was actively being permitted. The lower part of the line just got a hall pass and its not being actively permitted (yet).

Opening this pipeline will eliviate the supply glut at Cushing allowing that inventory to flow to the gulf for export in global markets.

Just doing the math...

Regards,

Cooter

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 20:31 | 2278505 CrashisOptimistic
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Pretty much exactly that.

This moment, Cushing oil has a limited number of customers, mostly Midwest refiners.

Pipe that oil to the Gulf and it has an entire planet of refinery customers.  Its price has to rise.  Brent may come down a tad, but WTI will move up.

Net net . . . higher gasoline prices in the US midwest.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 20:47 | 2278555 AmCockerSpaniel
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What this would do is keep North America's oil supply safe, in North America. As for price...... It is a world market.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 23:02 | 2278938 Idiot Savant
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Having all our oil refined in one location doesn't give me warm fuzzy feelings. All located in a spot that gets hit by hurricanes quite frequently. Closure of east coast refineries is not good.

Thu, 03/22/2012 - 00:26 | 2279264 dbomb12
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They already have it 11/21/2011

Why the Seaway Pipeline Damages Hope for Keystone XL and Collapses the Brent-WTI Spread Read more: http://www.minyanville.com/businessmarkets/articles/bitumen-crude-oil-crude-oil-supply/11/21/2011/id/38023#ixzz1pogKuq4Q
Wed, 03/21/2012 - 19:08 | 2278162 kaiserhoff
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Obamy said "drill baby, drill" right before the BP spill.

He and his liberal buddies were becoming "reconciled" to Nuclear power, right before Fukushima.

Quick, someone hide his copy of "The Sun Also Rises."

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 19:29 | 2278248 nmewn
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"He and his liberal buddies were becoming "reconciled" to Nuclear power, right before Fukushima."

Now, it's The Great O'Barry Oil Tour...very transparent...lol.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 19:55 | 2278354 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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He's an idiot.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 20:24 | 2278480 economics9698
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95 IQ affirmative action dolt.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 19:17 | 2278197 CrazyCooter
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Totally off topic, but my Dad told me a funny story the other day from back in the 70s. He had this women's libber chewing on him about whether god was a man or a woman. So, my old man thinks about it a bit, and tells her God is a woman. Her jaw hit the floor. This garnered the acute attention of everyone present in the cafeteria who happened to be in ear shot.

So, after regaining her composure, she asked him why. He said, well, since there have been thousands of religions in last few thousand of years, god must be a woman because she changes her mind every year.

The cafeteria roared and the libber lady was fumingly pissed.

Regards,

Cooter

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 23:46 | 2279146 Assetman
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Yeah... like Obama didn't "like" important civil liberty stripping provisions of the NDAA, yet he signed the damn bill anyway.

Evironmentalists overlooked the above, because it only restricted the civil rights of (suspected) terrorists.  Now that Obama is backdooring the stripping of (suspected) environmental rights, only the environmentalists are screaming bloody murder.

Yet these same self-suscribed "liberals" will be resigned to vote for Barry-O, because they want nothing to do with the Red Pill.

Stoopid Americans.  They just don't bother to get it.

 

Thu, 03/22/2012 - 00:03 | 2279201 Carl Spackler
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Doesn't matter what he promised.  It's a straw man argument.  NOTHING CHANGED.

The President has no legal authority to stop any pipeline construction within the United States.  It is a legal matter between the state governments affected.

The ONLY reason the Keystone XL pipeline issue is even on the President's desk is because the pipeline CROSSES THE U.S. BORDER INTO CANADA, requiring the State Department to get involved concerning diplomatic risks. 

Now, Obama tis attempting to take credit for something (an OK to TX pipeline) for which he has ZERO legal authority towad.

This is a political spin that will only make his environmental wacko friends (like the woman quoted) start to lose their enthusiasm for supporting him, while his media friends try to tout it as a victory.

Call me when he approves the final one mile of pipeline crossing the U.S. border into Canada ! 

That is the only section that matters in the Keystone XL affair.

 

 

Thu, 03/22/2012 - 00:03 | 2279202 Carl Spackler
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Doesn't matter what he promised.  It's a straw man argument.  NOTHING CHANGED.

The President has no legal authority to stop any pipeline construction within the United States.  It is a legal matter between the state governments affected.

The ONLY reason the Keystone XL pipeline issue is even on the President's desk is because the pipeline CROSSES THE U.S. BORDER INTO CANADA, requiring the State Department to get involved concerning diplomatic risks. 

Now, Obama tis attempting to take credit for something (an OK to TX pipeline) for which he has ZERO legal authority towad.

This is a political spin that will only make his environmental wacko friends (like the woman quoted) start to lose their enthusiasm for supporting him, while his media friends try to tout it as a victory.

Call me when he approves the final one mile of pipeline crossing the U.S. border into Canada ! 

That is the only section that matters in the Keystone XL affair.

 

 

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 18:40 | 2278088 william shatner
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/03/21/geithner_asked_what_wo...

 

"If this were the last debt ceiling increase you could ask for, the final one, and you had to make it large enough for all current and future obligations, what would the request need to be?" Congressman Trey Gowdy (R-SC) asked Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner at a Capitol Hill hearing on Wednesday.

"I don’t know how to answer that question," Geithner said to Gowdy.

After being prodded by the Congressman, Geithner eventually told him, "it would be a lot."

“It would be a lot,” Geithner finally said. “It would make you uncomfortable," he added.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 18:45 | 2278093 Atlas_shrugging
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You can't have your environmentalist and eat him, too

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 18:47 | 2278100 The Big Ching-aso
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The squeaky pipe gets the oil?

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 20:30 | 2278498 Urban Roman
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On the other hand, the oil just falls out of the half-pipe.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 18:48 | 2278101 SheepleLOVEched...
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fuck the environment and animals, we need jobs now or we are completely fucked.....

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 18:55 | 2278116 goldfish1
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Another under-educated comment courtesy of the public school system and media programming.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 19:02 | 2278139 TMT
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He actually has a point (I think).  The eco-nazis want us to change everything to prevent a .0001 increase in temperatures 50 years from now.  And for this fix just fork over your liberties and checkbook.  I say ... fuck that and fuck them.  First, it's utter bullshit (at a bare minimum unproven).  Second, they could give a fuck about the ramifications to the economy ... okay we'll prevent that .0001 rise but we'll all be eating dog food.  Third, if they truly cared about saving civilization (which they don't, they simply want to control everyone else and the "environment" is simply their trojan horse) then they should focus their energy on D.C. and the Fed - who together are doing more damage than fossil fuels.

Make sense?

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 19:38 | 2278282 nmewn
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If it were a "crisis" to the entire planet (people burning fossil fuels) all governments worldwide would simply ban it.

They don't.

They would rather tax it...which tells you all you need to know.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 20:01 | 2278387 Toxicosis
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No, governments would not ban oil production or use of oil and it's mulitple by-products as that would be the virtual end of all industrial economies and you'd even run out of toothbrushes, then what would you do.  Government's already tax oil and gas brutally in many countries but banning it would end the vast majority of banking, business, military and even central planners.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 22:46 | 2278876 my puppy for prez
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I'd say that's a good start.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 20:26 | 2278492 Harbanger
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Did you know that Margaret Thatcher started the Global Warming scare?  It was a scare tactic for political reasons just to break the coalers in the UK. 

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 18:56 | 2278120 NidStyles
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It's not about talking points junior. It's about the lack of principles and easy money. Eliminate the easy money and almost everything returns to normal, because it would have to. Your cry only advocates the Government creation of do-nothing employment.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 19:39 | 2278286 Baleful Runes 4 U
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"fuck the environment and animals, we need jobs now or we are completely fucked....."

You're fucked anyway, you myopic fuck. Haven't you caught the program yet?

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 19:00 | 2278130 Scottj88
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Environmentalists vs "More Jobs & Energy Resources"

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Just one of the many psychological paradigms Americans are stuck in...

What about Gull Island?
What about suppressed innovation?

This drama is old.

Let the truth prevail...

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 19:46 | 2278310 Chuck Walla
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See the ZH article on "Sociopaths run the country".

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 21:15 | 2278638 Buck Johnson
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Our country is totally dysfunctional, when you have a dysfunctional people you can't help to have a dysfunctional govt..

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 21:56 | 2278742 Gully Foyle
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transaccountin

Counterpunch had an article months ago making a similar point. Theirs was Obama would allow it after the election.

I guess he caved sooner than was expected.


Wed, 03/21/2012 - 22:01 | 2278754 Ness.
Thu, 03/22/2012 - 03:02 | 2279570 StychoKiller
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From yer link:

[quote]

Davis said while he asked voters to cast their ballots for Smith, it was about ensuring the seat stayed in Democrat control and was not a show of support for Smith. Davis said Smith should not appear on the November ballot given the ethical cloud he now faces.

"I was glad to see Derrick win the election, but I think in reality one can say that Democrats won the election," Davis said. "I don't think they were necessarily voting for Derrick, but I think they were saying 'Democrat, Democrat, Democrat.'"

"It's not just about the man, but it's also about, as Ossie Davis said, the plan," Davis said. "So I think people were intelligent enough, they were wise enough, they understood enough that they wanted to give themselves another chances to get a good, solid Democrat to represent them."

[/quote]

How is it that people are too dumb to fend for themselves, yet so intelligent that they can vote for the right person to fend for everyone else?

Wishing the government to be a great protector and benefactor does not make it so.  It is not difficult to find evidence that it is anything but.

All you're really asking for is to exchange the potential corruption of a private merchant for the assured corruption of a government bureaucrat. If a merchant cheats you, you won't go back.  If a merchant cheats enough people, he'll go out of business.  If a government bureaucrat cheats you, then he receives no punishment.  In fact, he'll probably receive more funding and more authority to do a job he was too incompetent to do and had no incentive to do effectively in the first place.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 22:37 | 2278851 Fail2Deliver
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Obama now has his "out" for the election. He can say he is all for the pipeline, but that darn EPA just will not approve the permits....wink,wink

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 22:37 | 2278852 Fail2Deliver
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doh

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 18:22 | 2278036 franzpick
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Good.  Maybe Obama has finally bitten off more than he can eschew

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 18:23 | 2278039 t_kAyk
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the desperation is palpable... 

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 19:21 | 2278217 Ignatius
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President Obummer has fucked every one of his base support groups... the environmentalists were due.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 18:24 | 2278041 Lost Wages
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And you wonder why Liberals are ready to go Black Bloc (and beyond).

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 18:24 | 2278042 leathaface
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i am sure that timmy and ben can supply the grease for Obummer to work his magic!

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 18:25 | 2278043 PrintPressPimpin
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so he has determined that going in this direction is going to help his chances.  Sadly the projections are probably true the percentage of sheeple voting for obomber just grew two percent folks.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 18:25 | 2278046 boogerbently
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As it stands, now, all 5 US states involved are "right to work" states.

If they moved the pipeline one "line" of states west, 3 of the 5 are "union" states. See if obama couldn't be more agreeable to that!

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 18:54 | 2278114 DosZap
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The POOTUS has gone even  more 180* dumb ass.(and they think the peole are stupid?).

He's running a close 2nd to Clinton in lying everytime his mouth opens.

Every program, and radio talk show, or take on his electioneering agenda, are all but calling him a LIAR,to see the P openly despised for blatant lying, getting caught, and continuing to lie more...................its sickening.

How do you BALD faced lie, and take credit for the very things you have never allowed,STILL in reality will not allow, and have not in the past 3yrs,with a straight face.?

He has infected the WH, he must be gone in 12.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 18:58 | 2278125 NidStyles
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Yeah, as if the WH were some sacred temple of something other than blantant brutality in the name of nationhood...

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 22:00 | 2278752 palmereldritch
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It's only lying if you print a copy of the transcript from the teleprompter.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 18:26 | 2278047 ArkansasAngie
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If I hear another Democrat tell me that Obama is the only choice I may have to be bailed out of jail.

On the other hand ... if I hear another Republican tell me that Romney will save us I may pull a George Bush and puke all over them.

There is no honor or integrity in Washington or Wall Street ... just a bunch of low life criminals feasting on our stupidity

I'll be voting against every incumbent.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 18:59 | 2278129 goldfish1
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Ron Paul says he's noncommittal about backing Mitt Romney

COLUMBIA, Mo. (AP) - Republican candidate Ron Paul says he's noncommittal about backing Mitt Romney if Romney becomes the party's presidential nominee.

The Texas congressman says Romney is a friend but that they'd have to talk about the kind of foreign policy Romney would pursue before he makes a decision.

http://www.ksdk.com/news/world/article/310471/18/Paul-says-hes-noncommit...

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 22:39 | 2278862 my puppy for prez
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If he does that, I will be PISSED!  I have come to the place that I don't even trust RP anymore.  I have been very suspicious of the crappy way his campaign has been run...I, a 40-something homemaker, could do a better job running his campaign.  I really wonder if he is a steam valve for patriots or something like that.  For crying out loud....his campaign won't even aggressively go after the very obvious voter fraud, to say the least.

The return on my "investment" in his campaign:  $0

My realizing that we are completely screwed:  Priceless.  

(And I do mean "priceless".)

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 22:56 | 2278919 oldman
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@mypuppy----------green 100x

But, having written the above my question is:

YOU ARE STILL GOING TO VOTE????                      om

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 18:31 | 2278050 bob_dabolina
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Where are the environmentalists when wind turbines kill tens of thousands of birds and bats?

Some reports of up to 1,000 birds a day (365,000 per year)

Environmentalists are sycophants obsessed with their own deluded vanity.  The country would be a better place if they would remove themselves from the gene pool.

I'm sure the Caribou will learn to walk around the pipe or eat grass somewhere else. I'm quite confident in their abilities.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 18:35 | 2278072 Lost Wages
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Real environmentalists like Deep Green Resistance and Anarcho-Primitivists realize that there is no sane, sustainable energy solution to maintain this civilization, so they would move to abolish electricity altogether and allow the planet to grow wild again. They see windmills, solar panels, recycling and fluorescent bulbs for the ruse they are, just like the Conservatives, but they go beyond Leftism in that they want to model themselves more after indigenous societies.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 19:24 | 2278230 MinnesotaMD
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U.S. average life expectancy would drop to 22 years, but the misery would be a cleansing thing. You certainly wouldn't take anything for granted in a 22year life span. Skateboarding stairwells would start to make sense under that schema.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 20:19 | 2278461 Toxicosis
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Don't find a new fossil fuel source or suitable substitute say in the next 10 years and we'll be a lot more indigenous real fast whether we like it or not.  Perhaps the environmental movement is really a wailing siren indicating that danger might just be ahead, and their just pointing people in the non-desired direction.  The greater we stretch the elastic band, and the greater the chance we don't plan for both the expected and unexpected, the more painful it will be.  Without fossil fuels we will not and cannot maintain even the electrical infrastructure, which is very old in many places and suffers from significant disrepair.  Some environmentalists are extreme, as are some capitalists, but not finding enough energy to support the masses will doom many to an environmentalists wet dream, which too many will also find out is just as nightmarish.

 

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=recent-blackout-highlights-nations

Thu, 03/22/2012 - 00:29 | 2279275 Bringin It
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Well it's all a matter of perspective.  Indigenous is what you make of it.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 20:51 | 2278566 chipshot
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....you can start today...

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 23:21 | 2279046 oldman
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@lostwages

This gets my vote----thanks for the references---they sound exactly like my kind of people                 om

looked up one and gotta go for the other one---thanks again, lost                om

 

 

From: Korena Zucha
Sender: alpha-bounces@stratfor.com
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 18:38:01 -0600
To: Alpha List
ReplyTo: Alpha List
Cc: Anya Alfano
Subject: [alpha] INSIGHT-US-Occupy Austin and Deep Green Resistance-NO
CODE

New source so don’t yet have code or rankings. Source is a Texas DPS
agent.

There is a group you may be familiar with called Deep Green Resistance.
They are led by (among a number of people) a eco-radical named Lierre
Keith. She co-wrote the book, Deep Green Resistance: Strategy to Save
the Planet. Very enlightening if you haven’t read it. The movement
advocates the collapse of industrial civilization to reach their eco
goals. In the book, they advocate the use of guerrilla tactics to defeat
current institutions when it comes to the environment. Whether anyone in
the Fed or elsewhere classifies this group as eco-terror or not, I don’t
know, but they are nothing but and should be watched.

http://deepgreenresistance.org/

The local Austin chapter was part of the Occupy Austin crowd at city
hall, however, things were not “radical” enough for them since they do
not believe in working within the system. When I was working U/C on Nov.
5th, some of my contacts told me that at the General Assembly on Nov.
4th, there was some conflict between regular Occupy people and Deep
Green. Deep Green picked up all their stuff and left during the night.
As best as anyone knows, they left and went to a state park off 71. The
only place I know is McKinney Falls out in that area. They have started
a group called the “Phoenix Commune” and intend to make their base out
there, living off the land, so to speak. My source says they told him
that as long as they move 10? everyday, the park officials can’t make
them leave. These Deep Green people worry me. When my Occupy people
refer to them as “stupid, crazy motherfuckers”, that bothers me, because
these Occupy people will tolerate just about anything.

I passed the info on to locals and since the park is way outside the
complex, I haven’t done any follow up other than to keep an eye and ear
open for anything they may plan for the complex.

Early on in the Occupy movement, they got the group to support some
document called, “Indigenous Struggle Solidarity Statement” calling
Austin an occupied territory. It includes a picture of armed native
Americans.

http://deepgreenresistanceaustin.org/2011/10/09/occupy-austin%E2%80%99s-...

So, to make a long story short, I think the eco-terror group is focused
on creating a situation where violent confrontation will be the ultimate
outcome.


Marc Lanthemann
Watch Officer
STRATFOR
+1 609-865-5782
www.stratfor.com

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Wed, 03/21/2012 - 19:09 | 2278166 gwar5
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UR right!  The Owebama bird grinding machines are worse than DDT. Owebama's DOJ is actually suing North Dakota's to stop fracking on private land...  over 8 dead birds they found.

Bumpersnicker: "Free the indigenous carbon! It was here first!"

 

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 19:33 | 2278264 OldPhart
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Out here in the desert you should see the size of some of those birds.  We're talking eagles, hawks, vultures, buzzards along with the smaller stuff like ravens, sparrows, owls, etc.

There was a story a week back about a permit given to some indians to kill a bald eagle for ceremonial purposes.  All they'd have to do is stand under some to these massive windmills for a couple days. 

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 23:22 | 2279051 delacroix
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good place for a new tyson plant

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 22:06 | 2278771 palmereldritch
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And where are the environmentalists when it comes to unregulated and unlabeled poisonous sterilizing GMO in the food chain and industrial waste packaged as 'sodium fluoride' being dumped in municipal water supplies at a profit and packaged as a health benefit?!

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 18:28 | 2278052 Let them eat iPads
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Hey Obama, why don't you fix gas prices?

Signed,

Really dumb republican

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 18:51 | 2278106 TMT
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Yeah Obama has zero power dick head.  No control over printing trillions of worthless dollars, the escalation in Iran, etc.

Grow up.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 19:02 | 2278141 Let them eat iPads
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Listen fuckwit, retardlicans act like the US is the only country that uses oil so their pitiful whining about gas prices and how Obama should be doing something about is fucking pathetic.

These people should be burned for fuel, that might help.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 19:08 | 2278158 TMT
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I see I hit a nerve showing how your boy is a total fuck up.  But it would have been nice if you at leat attempted to address my counter points - printing and Iran.  But that would mean you actually say something bad about your boy.

Fuck off.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 19:17 | 2278195 Let them eat iPads
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He ain't my "boy", jackass. Every president for the last 50 years has been a complete douche and that won't change with the next puppet-in-chief either.

My very basic point that you are unable to grasp is that when you have finite resource that the entire world needs desperately it's incredibly fucking stupid to blame a US president for what price that resource is selling for.

But I see you're with the braindead foaming at the mouth crowd so disregard this explanation.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 19:25 | 2278235 TMT
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In Jan 09 WTI was at about $30.  Today it's at $107.  Are you saying that just over the last three years oil became "finite"?

Thu, 03/22/2012 - 03:11 | 2279581 StychoKiller
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The Bernank (and others!) "made" a lot of munny, haven't you been paying attention?

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 19:28 | 2278241 MinnesotaMD
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"muppet-in-chief".

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 19:43 | 2278301 Teamtc321
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Hope, Hope and Change I say. Let them eat my ipipeline!! Suck it bitcheez. 

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 21:32 | 2278675 DaveyJones
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I can (similar to your theory) blame this president harshly and the others for (1) hiding the issue for so long (2) transforming it into an unsuccessful terror/imperial adventure and (3) causing a lot of unecessary loss in oil, property and life in the process 

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 19:31 | 2278259 gwar5
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Being Marxist means never having to say you're sorry.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 21:14 | 2278637 A Nanny Moose
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Copyright this before Hallmark does.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 19:00 | 2278136 gwar5
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Owebama fixed prices plenty good already.

 

Oil prices didn't get bigger, the dollar got smaller from all his irresponsible spending benefitting Wall Street. He absolutely hates poor people the most. 

Thu, 03/22/2012 - 03:13 | 2279582 StychoKiller
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Hmm, whenever you invite them over for a party, they put out their Kools™ on yer rug, just saying.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 18:29 | 2278055 Its_the_economy...
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Wealth transfer.

Key people were not yet positioned to score. Now after intial de-railing, all are in position at other's expense. Busines as usual. Move on.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 18:32 | 2278065 death_to_fed_tyranny
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Barack HUSSEIN Obama is in the Scrambler! The annointed one is annointed with the high priced oil of his ending!

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 18:35 | 2278068 bob_dabolina
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Wouldn't you know what I found with a quick google search

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/anti-occupy-protest-takes-bird-killi...

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 18:33 | 2278069 YesWeKahn
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Obama's top priority: election.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 18:35 | 2278071 nothing can go wrogn
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The race is on!

Can the beautiful province of Alberta be destroyed fast enough to keep up with the Bernank's high frequency printing presses.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 18:50 | 2278104 goldfish1
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"World's Dirtiest Oil: Stop the Tar Sands."

Before and after pics:

http://www.treehugger.com/corporate-responsibility/national-geographic-s...

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 18:58 | 2278124 Bill D. Cat
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Niger delta asshole .

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 19:54 | 2278346 goldfish1
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Niger Delta asshole ?

No. The Suncor Millennium tar sands site, Alberta in the March 2009 issue of National Geographic.

Here's a non tree-hugger link so as not to offend the delicate sensibilities of forum readers:

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2009/03/canadian-oil-sands/kunzig-text

 

And, another lovely pic here from NASA:

http://www.earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=40997

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 19:19 | 2278202 TMT
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Treehugger.com .... come on man.  I'd drop my junk in a Castro glory hole before reading that crap.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 19:27 | 2278238 Ignatius
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Ah, a man of principal!  +1

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 19:06 | 2278153 Let them eat iPads
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North Texas never was a beautiful province.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 18:35 | 2278073 PMakoi
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Well,... to fit into ZH finally... "As I predicted"

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 18:37 | 2278077 Lost Wages
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To be honest I didn't think he'd reneg until after the election. Maybe the Iran war, the equity market collapse and QE3 will come sooner than I think too.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 18:40 | 2278089 Global Hunter
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Iran war part I think is getting pretty close, wow this really IS some change but without the hope.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 19:52 | 2278339 blu
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Bingo.

The visuals were getting really bad. We just don't know yet what the stage will be, but your guesses are all good ones. I'd say, we get two out of the three in your list before July.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 19:06 | 2278079 bob_dabolina
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Video of wind turbine SLAUGHTERING a bird

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NAAzBArYdw&feature=player_embedded

Get PETA on this. SHUT DOWN ALL WIND TURBINES

STOP THE HOLOCAUST OF BIRDS.

Where are the environmentalist crusaders?

How can people support this type of massacre? At least you can wash oil off of a bird.

If Obama gets re-elected you can thank him when there are no more birds in the U.S.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 19:54 | 2278349 SilverRhino
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I hate vultures ... no loss.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 20:11 | 2278428 bob_dabolina
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lol

This is just one example. These wind turbines kill all kinds of birds en masse

If people like mosquitoes that much, so be it. Build these fuckin' things everywhere. FUCK OIL and FUCK BIRDS

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 18:37 | 2278080 bullet
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change...

all you will have left from a dollar is change...

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 18:38 | 2278082 goldfish1
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Lots of repugs in the south...must placate.

In other political theatre...Ron Paul hedges endorsement for friend Mittens depending on his foreign policy.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 18:38 | 2278084 Global Hunter
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I hope we don't sell a single barrel to the Americans until you do something about your hideous leadership (not that ours is much better), however its nice to see Obumble slowly drowning and running around like a chicken without its head.  Looks good on you Barry!!!!

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 19:02 | 2278140 NidStyles
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It's all destined for foreign markets, so you're screwed no matter what. Your nation's leaders are exporting your future for short term gains.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 18:42 | 2278091 digalert
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I saw an oil guy on the snews. He said this southern part is not the issue. The issue is about a fifty foot section connecting US and Canada. Without that connection, it's an empty pipe.

Thu, 03/22/2012 - 00:11 | 2279224 Carl Spackler
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BINGO !

Please hold your cards. B-I-N-G-O has been called.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 18:54 | 2278112 gwar5
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Half a clue, half a pipeline. He's saying he doesn't want to be criticized for lack of jobs but lip service to oil access.

 

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 18:54 | 2278113 Sudden Debt
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Didn't they show in the matrix that you can harvest energy from human body's if you hook them up to a machine?

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 18:58 | 2278126 I did it by Occident
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So instead of paying for the building of the whole pipeline (volume discount), we'll bid it out in segments each with their own panoply of lawyers and environmental impact studies, etc (they gottsta get paid yo).  So the estimate is severely underestimated.  It would be 3X as a rule of thumb, now it will probably be 3X3 =9 X original cost to build estimate if done in segments.  Now that's a JOBS plan!!

/sarc

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 18:59 | 2278128 Joke Heros
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Larry Kudlow has half a stiffy

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 19:00 | 2278133 Mongo
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Yes he can!

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 19:01 | 2278135 boogerbently
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This way he can only be "half" wrong.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 19:04 | 2278143 Evil Bugeyes
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What use is half a pipeline? That's like building half a bridge.

First we had the "bridge to nowhere". Now we have the "pipeline to nowhere".

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 19:09 | 2278163 Joebloinvestor
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Hopefully, trying to have it "both ways" results in both parties voting this asshole out of office.

 

If not both parties I will settle for a majority.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 19:13 | 2278181 moroots
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How does this guy still have a constitutency? 

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 19:15 | 2278189 TMT
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The parasitic sheep who just want free shit.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 19:16 | 2278191 lolmao500
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Obamabots say : well Obama is bad, but he's better than Romney so Obama all the way!!! (I know, I read lots of Obamabots forums) That's always the reason they give, for whatever he does... on NDAA.. etc... or they blame republicans... or they think it's good... or they say if you question Obama, you are racist... etc...

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 21:33 | 2278685 Vlad Tepid
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How do you not go insane?

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 19:28 | 2278242 gwar5
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Media propaganda won't quit him. They're both going down together but not nearly fast enough. 

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 19:16 | 2278193 Robslob
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Since most Politicians are clear "flip floppers" maybe we should all write them and say "Fuck Corporations...we want a RAISE!"

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 19:22 | 2278213 g3h
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If environmentalists think Obama will put his personal interest after theirs, or whoever's, they are facing a rude awakening.

Welcome to the real world.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 19:22 | 2278220 Lost Wages
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Didn't you hear? We don't need oil anymore. The iPad is a cooking and heating device! Apple has given us everything!

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 19:33 | 2278266 booboo
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It warms the heart of my cockle

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 19:30 | 2278249 booboo
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Tar sands drill baby, baby drill tar sands, tar drill baby 

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 19:31 | 2278255 Seasmoke
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what a wishy-washy flip-flopping mulatto

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 21:31 | 2278681 Vlad Tepid
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He was for it before he was against it.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 19:47 | 2278313 blu
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This is the end-game. Every move on the board is now scripted in advance. Thus, there will be a pipeline whatever the cost.

It's not going to save us. It will be too little, too late, and too expensive. But we want it anyway even if we don't know why.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 19:50 | 2278320 HungrySeagull
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If you know the Program to be "Fucked" then why are we still here?

It's amazing the most lofty towers of Human thought and understanding reduced to a carnal reference.

Thank god for the Pipeline and Thank god for the Railroads.

Essentially, Canada hired us to do the work.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 19:53 | 2278345 data_monkey
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If I were OK or TX, I'd be like, "Sorry, bud but we can't approve your permit due to Environmental concerns. It's just too risky."

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 19:59 | 2278377 SilverRhino
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Screw that,   Texas just puts a 10 billion pricetag on the permit with the ability to reroute internally.

 

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 19:57 | 2278367 918pigpen
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Can we say "CART BEFORE THE HORSE"  Boy and girls ???

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 20:00 | 2278379 BeetleBailey
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(still quite a bit better than Europe's $9.81 average/gallon)

 

...which is larded on with taxes up the bunghole. Moreover, Euro's don't drive as much, and, have used mass transit for decades, plus their distance to and fro is much shorter.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 20:05 | 2278405 rsnoble
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I'd like to offer an idea on where Mr. 57 states can stick the other half.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 20:23 | 2278478 q99x2
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Seattle's closer.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 20:33 | 2278513 surf0766
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They do not need his approval to build it. ONly if it crosses the boarder.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 21:05 | 2278536 BlackholeDivestment
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Rosemary's Baby is the Antichrist. He's a pathetic pandering fool and a liar. He is the masonic new world order White Black Muslim Socialist and globalist bastard, claiming to be a Christian while fighting for abortion http://www.lifenews.com/2012/03/16/obama-admin-oks-using-aborted-babies-brains-in-lab-tests/ and transhumanism and transgender military. This dipshit want's you to marry a black hole. The fact that this dipshit is allowed near a military post, muchless can survive being in office at this point, is proof that America is under it's own judgment. He is a clear and present danger to all people, but even worse than him are the people that serve him and the ones that vote for him. Without reservation, his place and their place are the same, here on Earth as it burns with their judgment having come upon their heads. 

http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissuesArticles.asp?id=106938 

Maybe it's time for Rosemary's Baby and his Saudi College sponsors to buy him a ticket to Mecca, where all the dipshits go round kissing Kabba stones like mad bastard children. Cuz their god has no son. LMAO. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/mar/16/destroy-all-churches/

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 21:11 | 2278624 my puppy for prez
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You forgot "Zionist puppet".

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 21:24 | 2278656 BlackholeDivestment
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...thought it was ''muppet'' now? Lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYjbkRktqIE

Thu, 03/22/2012 - 03:48 | 2279632 Antipodeus
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Awww ... don't hold back -- tell us what you REALLY think!

 

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 20:57 | 2278587 spekulatn
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Climate protector, bitchez!

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 21:11 | 2278622 Lady Heather...UNCLE
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I might eke out another 50 years on this mortal coil. Would like to see how prosterity rates this buffoon of a POTUS you 'mericans have done voted in here. Fuck me but he's a tosspot (and a perfidious one at that). BTW is he a natural born US citizen?

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 21:26 | 2278665 Clowns on Acid
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No.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 21:13 | 2278634 Atomizer
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Keep your tires filled & don't forget to vote for me in 2012.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 21:29 | 2278671 Vlad Tepid
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Where's that Obama-Giving-A-Speech troll?  I want to hear his hilarious take on this.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 21:32 | 2278683 Westcoastliberal
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Nobody wants to discuss the fact the sludge coming from Canada gurgles down to refineries on the Gulf who will refine the product and pump it to tankers for delivery to other countries.

We in the U.S. bear the environmental risk with no benefit from additional supply.

IMHO Obama is a traitor to the environment and progressives.

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