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Obama Ordered The "Code Stux"
When Iran's nuclear facilities were publicly crippled in 2011 by what then was considered a revolutionary computer virus which destroys physical equipment, many immediately assumed the virus originated in Israel for obvious reasons. They were wrong. In what can be described as the first presidentially-mandated and condoned act of cyberwarfare, one circumventing the War Powers Act of course, the NYT informs us that the order to physically impair Iranian sovereignty came from none other than the Nobel Peace prize winning president: Barack Obama.
From the NYT:
From his first months in office, President Obama secretly ordered increasingly sophisticated attacks on the computer systems that run Iran's main nuclear enrichment facilities, significantly expanding America's first sustained use of cyberweapons, according to participants in the program.
Mr. Obama decided to accelerate the attacks - begun in the Bush administration and code-named Olympic Games - even after an element of the program accidentally became public in the summer of 2010 because of a programming error that allowed it to escape Iran's Natanz plant and sent it around the world on the Internet. Computer security experts who began studying the worm, which had been developed by the United States and Israel, gave it a name: Stuxnet.
At a tense meeting in the White House Situation Room within days of the worm's "escape," Mr. Obama, Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. and the director of the Central Intelligence Agency at the time, Leon E. Panetta, considered whether America's most ambitious attempt to slow the progress of Iran's nuclear efforts had been fatally compromised.
"Should we shut this thing down?" Mr. Obama asked, according to members of the president's national security team who were in the room.
Told it was unclear how much the Iranians knew about the code, and offered evidence that it was still causing havoc, Mr. Obama decided that the cyberattacks should proceed. In the following weeks, the Natanz plant was hit by a newer version of the computer worm, and then another after that. The last of that series of attacks, a few weeks after Stuxnet was detected around the world, temporarily took out nearly 1,000 of the 5,000 centrifuges Iran had spinning at the time to purify uranium.
This account of the American and Israeli effort to undermine the Iranian nuclear program is based on interviews over the past 18 months with current and former American, European and Israeli officials involved in the program, as well as a range of outside experts. None would allow their names to be used because the effort remains highly classified, and parts of it continue to this day.
For those confused - yes: this is an act of war. A New Normal war.
It appears to be the first time the United States has repeatedly used cyberweapons to cripple another country's infrastructure, achieving, with computer code, what until then could be accomplished only by bombing a country or sending in agents to plant explosives. The code itself is 50 times as big as the typical computer worm, Carey Nachenberg, a vice president of Symantec, one of the many groups that have dissected the code, said at a symposium at Stanford University in April. Those forensic investigations into the inner workings of the code, while picking apart how it worked, came to no conclusions about who was responsible.
And still America continues to wage war, subverting the constitution, without any Congressional approval, and without even telling the population what is really happening. Because it is "for its own good."
A similar process is now under way to figure out the origins of another cyberweapon called Flame that was recently discovered to have attacked the computers of Iranian officials, sweeping up information from those machines. But the computer code appears to be at least five years old, and American officials say that it was not part of Olympic Games. They have declined to say whether the United States was responsible for the Flame attack.
The "New Normal Gulf of Tonkin":
Mr. Obama, according to participants in the many Situation Room meetings on Olympic Games, was acutely aware that with every attack he was pushing the United States into new territory, much as his predecessors had with the first use of atomic weapons in the 1940s, of intercontinental missiles in the 1950s and of drones in the past decade. He repeatedly expressed concerns that any American acknowledgment that it was using cyberweapons - even under the most careful and limited circumstances - could enable other countries, terrorists or hackers to justify their own attacks.
"We discussed the irony, more than once," one of his aides said. Another said that the administration was resistant to developing a "grand theory for a weapon whose possibilities they were still discovering." Yet Mr. Obama concluded that when it came to stopping Iran, the United States had no other choice.
If Olympic Games failed, he told aides, there would be no time for sanctions and diplomacy with Iran to work. Israel could carry out a conventional military attack, prompting a conflict that could spread throughout the region.
Some call it irony, others collateral damage where people lose everything, including their lives. Semantics.
Remember though: they hate America for its freedoms.
Mr. Obama has repeatedly told his aides that there are risks to using - and particularly to overusing - the weapon. In fact, no country's infrastructure is more dependent on computer systems, and thus more vulnerable to attack, than that of the United States. It is only a matter of time, most experts believe, before it becomes the target of the same kind of weapon that the Americans have used, secretly, against Iran.
And it will be a shock, SHOCK when the world retaliates against America.
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Waaaaah........ did I hurt someones Bushy feelings. TS. PS not fan of Obama either!
Here is a special tune just for you Bushies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfE_98yy2iw&feature=related
And Bernanke won "Man of the Year".
Of course Bernanke, in his defense, has saved civilization several time since 2008,
Does this mean Al Gore is now unemployed? Guess that helps explain today's numbers.
Dude sure has killed a bunch of people and blown a ton of shit up for a Nobel Peace Prize winner .
Its like GE, "We bring good things to Life".
U aint seen nuttin yet,wait till/if the poo-bah gets FO MO, and starts on Yo mommas a$#.
Wonder if they wished for a RE-DO.
I knows AH DO.
I would be impressed if it was actually Obama who did the hacking.
How hilarious is it that the only difference between hacktivists and "whitehats" who hack on behalf of the military, is that the ladder is only more acceptable because they get green pieces of paper from the Government.
That comes next.
You seen the situation room where they didn't actually watch Osama geeting killed in real time.....now admitted.
Now he'll show his IT hackers room in the basement (complete with flashing lights, lab coats and a hoodie) where he didn't write the code
Taking credit ahead of the elections?
USA = ISRAEL whats the difference??
USA = more armed goyim per square mile than, well, just about anywhere.
USA pays for the stuf and gives it to Israel.
Israel/AIPAC says jump, USA says how high?
USA 40m on food stamps, Israel.....
The difference between these actions and terrorism is... ?
He actually hates your Freedom.
I'm a freedom-fighter, you're a rebel, he's a terrorist.
Terrorists don't obey lawful (ha ha) US orders.
Good guys of course do obey them.
The OT, or "Original Terrorist" of the USA:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sullivan_Expedition
"But you will not by any means listen to any overture of peace before the total ruinment of their settlements is effected. Our future security will be in their inability to injure us and in the terror with which the severity of the chastisement they receive will inspire them." - George Washington
...the difference is The Blue Flag on the White House.
No, it's a COBRA flag. We need Bruce Willis and the Rock to save us!
Well that'll bring out the Black Flag, canned and cloth.
It's not terrorism when they do it, duh.
I'm quite sure I can handle the truth.
No you cant, or youd be in open rebellion right now. In your gut you already know the truth, its why youre here, but you havent cognitized it yet. You are waiting the proper symbol for the transmission to complete. Youre rational mind is giving itself reasons to do what youve always done because it doesnt want to see what it is you already know to be true. Dont feel bad its me too, and its taken much reflection to begin to 'feel' more clearly.
"...he first presidentially-mandated and condoned act of cyberwarfare, one circumventing the War Powers Act of course."
Since Bush started it, the 'article' is a bit short on details about Bush and the Bush cabinet deliberations - if there were any, probably not since he tended to think he was still captain of the Andover (Exeter is SO much better) cheerleading squad and say, 'we are going in boys! beat Exeter!'. I met the idiot-named GW Bush when he was running for president the first time: I didn't think he was presidential material and truly, neither did he. What a mistake and what damage to the country. A bafoon.
Obama is oh so much better. (Rolling eyes)
As to this cyberwarfare...don't forget the congresscritters on the intelligence (heh!) committees would have been clued into this too...or were they?
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that anyone could even bring up the war power act and a violation of same is beyond silly........
NONE of these acts/laws apply --- they are only to keep the plebes on board in the belief department.
It is truly absurb to see how any and all acts/laws can be ignored/not enforced and still the "nation of laws" tripe is on parade.
A fools paradise run by criminal insanity.
Suggested weekend reading to sooth the nerves:
http://arcticbeacon.com/books/E_C_Knuth-The_Empire_Of_The_City,1944.pdf
This guy needs to learn the Ickey shuffle or something. Spiking the football is so passe.
they hate us for our freedoms. that we used to have, anyway
Then they should love us now. Its still Binny 1, Barry 0.
So what happens when they reverse engineer this thing?
They apply for jobs at Google and Facebook?
We have a lot more infrastructure than Iran, but on the bright side the orders for replacements will skyrocket, so that actually makes stutnex and it's derivatives a stimulus plan.
Plus, there's this:
http://www.information-age.com/channels/security-and-continuity/news/2105468/security-backdoor-found-in-chinamade-us-military-chip.thtml
And this is simply quite interesting:
http://www.salon.com/2012/05/31/what_gets_declassified/singleton/
sgt_doom's recommended site:
http://cryptogon.com/
if they reverse that bug I hpe it does not interfere with my Big Screen TV watching 'Dancing with the Idles'.....and Balloon Boy reruns while I enjoy my Double Big Mac with Supersized fries and a XL shake.....
...just saying.....
Of course the world will retaliate... which will be exactly what the government will need to shut down that pesky Internets thing.
Although we are being trained not to think, that plan just might hurt the stock price of Apple and FaceBook and possibly Google.
Only inside the USA, they make more money outside the USA anyway.
Let's see, USA = 300 million, world 6+ billion..
I'd choose the world...
Look at that economy fall apart, almost like parts of the world are already retaliating.
The world's already retaliating...just look at all of those weird and dangerous fish and lizards showing up over here...
And rumor has it that the Chinese, and possibly the Indian programs are superior.
I've even heard that the HFT's are a part of the Chinese program ...
And the difference between McCain and Obama in regards to Iran? It is only a matter of timing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-zoPgv_nYg
To celebrate, I just clicked on the dinner with obumma ad. A little more dinero for ZH!
This is the beginning of a cyber war that will nullify military tech advances around the world for All sides. Those drones will be dropping out of the sky in a few years and everyones fancy satellites will be obsolete.
Halting at the issue of drones, you people better make sure that those flying over US soil stay unarmed, for the enemy is getting better in hacking those things.
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=23533
Obamas #111 – Cream of Nothing
This guy needs to resign.
Good call! America needs a technocrat!
Bullish!
YES HE CAN!
Or be impeached. Or arrested:
http://nader.org/2012/05/30/obama-at-large-where-are-the-lawyers/
Dope and change.
@Sieze Mars
Because it would be any different with Bush1 or Bush2 or Rombot? Until the Anerican people reject the false dichotomy of the two party system, demand more liberty and less government, the tyranny will continue regardless of party affiliation.
Correct
This guy needs to resign.
Believe me, HE is gonna do his damndest to re-sign.
Political assylum requests to North Korea fall off the cliff ! Monedas 1929 Comedy Jihad Stux Reflux
You have got to be shitting me. Another f*#@# war?!
So we are killing their scientists too?
pods
Real smart. Now Iran will develop its own automation controllers further building their capabilities.
Interesting talk on the "rheams" talk radio show last night about drones and unintended precedent it is setting for them to be used against us. oooh la la
I concur. So long as we maintain air superiority, it's not really an issue for the homeland right now.
Once "they" are able to evade our air power, then look out below
Different topic but, can we please get a deer in the headligths photo today?!
This is news only because elections are this fall and someone needs to convince people they are hawkish.
This is news only because NFP took 3 points off his polling today.
if i say i wrote stuxnet, can i get some change?
The thing with being a Front Man...
This has the credibility of a Hawaiian birth certificate.
send out the call for major knong..lolhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlSQAZEp3PA
Liberals always want to smear the right as a bunch of extremist-gun-touting cowboys who flaunt the law. The actions of the Kenyian, ahem Keynesian, ahem... Ken(s)yian President shows otherwise.
The NeoCons won.
The world is now in foreclosure. The masses ignorant. The power in the hands of a few. Soon the slaughter will begin.
Begin ?
It's only small scale at the moment. Test markets.
Also why the fuck is everyone so upset with Obama? The preidents seat has been vacant for only the last 175 years.
Isn't this an act of war? and if there was a retaliation from the Iranians they would be wrong?
Seriously why go public with this, other than to provoke a response....seems like desperation to me
ken-syr-i-an
Better have your bank records mailed to you on an annual basis. Nothing like not being able to access your 1s and 0s because of a cyber attack. A bank is not going to just help you recover your money. Try getting a faulty ATM transaction repaired. It takes weeks.
What's an ATM, something else I don't need.
Thats why he won the Nobel Peace prize. Bush would have bombed them, flew into Iran in his fighter plane, personally pissed on the crater hole, fly back to Iraq to make Turkey sandwiches for the troops, declare "Job Done", then flew back in time to scold the twins for getting drunk at Spring Break.
All that Obama does is email them an infected Word document and acts all high and mighty ...
Makes me wonder if we had anything to do with some of Irans scientists getting expired......
I wonder what he has done to the rest of us.
Who cares, he knows what is best, right? What amazes me is how did I manage the first 45 years of my lfie without this prick making all my decisions for me.
I wonder what he has done to the rest of us.
Read much?
If you BTFD today IFKY (I'll fuckin kill you).
Letting an undocumented alien run the show was bound to have unforeseen problems. What's next, war with China just because he can?
Nope. After they lobbed a missile from our doorstep we backed the fuck off on them.
pods
Job growth for America. Hackers working for the DOD!
And it will be a shock, SHOCK when the world retaliates against America.
I suppose but in this area that's inevitable given the state of technology and therefore this Stux thing will ultimately look like a chicken-or-the-egg type event in hindsight.
It would take a real leap of faith to believe that absent Obama's actions China, Russia or someone else wouldn't be attempting the same on the US if they haven’t been already.
There are certainly precedents in history where one state has manipulated, planted or intercepted information that caused physical damage to another state that it was not officially at war with.
Hell, if Roosevelt were in his 20th term he probably would have sold the Iranians some of our older nukes – secretly rigged up Trojan Horse style.
This is the same Obama administration that is pimping the "Smartgrid" to enrich GE. Dark times ahead, literally.
Just think what an unencumbered Obama might do after election, lame duck or not.
"begun in the Bush administration"
It's Obama's new election slogan...Everything I've done was begun in the Bush administration!
Pretty much
I said when BushCo got all those Executive Powers that Pandoras Box had been opened on the removal of Freedom in America. No President is going to give back or not use those powers and even more will be added in the future. You can fill in the blank as far as whoever the President is, Congress has sold the American People out.
We should have just given GW another 4 years
Obama is Bush in disguise ...
Just in case you forgot "FOLKS" Obama killed Osama
Exactly!
"Unless something positive happens, I'm going to lose the election..." "Hey, I know, I'll just lie and all my friends will help me!" Problem solved.
But what do I say about the economy? Hey, I know, I'll just lie and all my friends will help me!" Problem solved.
Murdered, you mean. Osama was never charged with anything.
Other than a dialysis machine.
When do you suppose those charges should have been filed?
Just in case you forgot "FOLKS" Obama killed Osama.
Fuuuuck!
Since inflection is difficult via text, I'll just say that was stated with the utmost derision.
at least he waited till june!!??
Right. Blame it on Obama. I guess he's the president, so he has to be the fall guy.
Yeah, okay. And GWB was "The Decider".
"After some thought, sir, I've come to the conclusion that I'd like to purchase your oceanfront property in Arizona, sight-unseen. At the highest price."
One has to wonder why the urgency and persistence given the lack of evidence of any intent on the part of any countries in the middle east to attack the US people. The obvious and yet unconventional answer is that the government somehow KNOWS something about future events that it will not tell us (knowing the future through whatever means would incite questions that they do not want to answer)... and is reacting to change those future events.
I mean seriously, the people in charge are otherwise acting so completely irrationally (and evily) and coming up with the most bogus of excuses ... passing off lies so big, that people do not dare challenege them for fear of learning a truth too horrible to imagine.
Not just the US, but China and Russia as well. Understandably they will not be easily pushed around, but it does seem that all these super powers are in a mad-dash to secure as many natural resources as possible. Granted, any government (and people) in history has always strived to retain and control the fruits of the earth, but it has never seemed so rushed before, as if they know time is running out...
stux and flame; I preferred flame and the arrow. It all happened in Italy.
La flèche et le flambeau (1950) - IMDb
Dardo looked much more like it than O'bammy. And he NEVER struck first, like the sheriff of Dodge...
But he is such a great guy....
I vaguely remember rhetorics "Attack on USA cyberspace is equal to real war declaration, and USA will retaliate with whatever force is needed". I think that was previous president saying that.
As usual, doubleplus standards in action.
Major birther revelations are supposed to be forthcoming soon so the Kenyan warrior better sharpen his spear and start WWIII ASAP!!!
If Al Gore had not invented the internet this kind of shit could not even happen..........
LOL, he did it to help himself release the 2nd Chackra. He did it for the Pron.
Obama is a fucking nightmare. So is Romney. And Congress. And the Supreme Court.
why would anyone believe a nyt story about prez0, the veepB, and panetta?
this propaganda is obviously designed:
panetta is now D0D, of course... so the moral is: don't change horses or riders in the middle of this stream of evil terror and deluge of evilness of oppressed and brainwashed militants who just hate that we are so free
wait 4 years, then think about it, ok?
get it?/got it!/good! Hahaha!
My guess is they've got a false-flag "retaliation" lined up. After that, WWIII will be officially launched, which will also be used to blame for the crashing global economy.
agree with you both - and will add: the clue as to the false-flag MAY be the named "olympic games" - massive outcry heard round the world - anyone remember the "hostages" taken in the 1972 summer olympics, in munich?
olympics are yet another training manual in nationstate loyalty building. . . London 2012. . . there's a logo for that *wink*
http://www.davidairey.com/london-2012-olympic-logo-disaster/
obama is an arrogant pompous indonesian punk
Iranian National Guardsman: "Hey look, it's an unmanned drone that fell out of the sky into our land. Allahu Akbar!! Let's take it back to our top secret facilities, hook it up to our most sophisticated computers and reverse engineer this bitch. Infidels! Oh No! My screen just went blue! I hate Windows!"
CIA: "Hehehehe..."
i'm supposed to care about Iran's sovereignty? TD are you kidding? I'm sure they could care less about ours.
Agreed. Fuck Iran and their sovereignty. Maybe they'd like a few drone attacks per day too. They need to learn that Americanism is the new law of the land and what America wants America fucking gets.
/sarc
People like you piss me off!
i guess after having lost a good friend to an Iranian IED it tends to lessen one's sympathy for that regime. i felt Bush made a huge error by lumping Iran in with his so-called axis of evil, because at that moment it seemed the regime over there was shaky, but that speech only gave the hard liners the upper hand. tragic. this is the regime that mowed down the street demonstrations in Tehran with live ammo. i guess you've forgotten Neda. you probably don't know who she was. no, i don't care too much about their soveriegnty because that regime would slit your throat as soon as look at you. or set off a bomb in Times Square if they could, no problem. with all the commenta i didn't see one with any real thought about alternatives at this point. not one.
Condolences. Your Friend should still be alive. Wherever it was he was killed, he was sent there on spurious grounds and his life was put in danger needlessly by the worst criminals in History.
Please also show the proper amount of recognition and anger for those who've been responsible for putting so many fine American men and now women in the very same situation over the past 100 years.
Want to get even? Boycott the scumbags who sent your friend into oblivion.
they were voted out in the last election
Both "parties" are comprised of the same facist whores. (See Coke v. Pepsi above)
Of course blame the ones fighting back.
Never the ones who put him there in the first place. And no shit it was an Iranian IED. They are the new bad guy we have to be stoked into bombing.
I even heard that they are funding a joint venture with Al-CIA-Duh of the arabian penninsula?
Sorry for your loss, but you gotta wake up.
pods
You seem to have no knowledge of Israel carrying out terrorist attacks on AMERICA throughout the years. Also, our US intel has reported that Israel has had more spies inside the US than any country IN HISTORY! I almost forgot that Israel has had a history of stealing our sensitive intel and selling some of it to China. Not to mention that they secretly stole uranium from us back in the 50s and 60's.
ISRAEL is the biggest threat to America's security, I'm sorry to tell you. It takes courage to accept this fact. They are using us royally. I don't like it, and I WON'T stop informing people of these things, no matter how many down arrows I get.
I am not a Muslim (if that should matter), nor a "Jew hater", for the record. I simply hate deceit and treachery.
How many evil Iranian bases surround our country? How many Iranian drones have dropped missiles on your kids?
how many of your family and friends lost heir lives to an Iranian IED?
Still pushing it? Now too much.
Yes, perhaps this IED had an indestructible MADE IN IRAN tag on it. Musta been made out of one of them there Saudi passports...
I have lost one family member to IED and he should not have been there, but for this criminal insanity which you seem to support.
Give it a rest , you and/or your friend/family member are not "special".
Check in with the family members (if you can find any still alive) after the U.S. brutal attacks on anyone they SUSPECT of ANYTHING or not.
Oh well, just the body count we don't bother with.
criminal to punish via random cruel acts as the u.s. does.
no, i don't support it at all. believe me, i thought the Iraqi invasion would prove to be the biggest strategic error this country had ever made. i e-mailed the white house daily(you could do that in those days) begging them not to invade that country. it was an invasion built on lies and falsehoods. my comment then was Iraq would be like Norhern Ireland on steroids. it all came to pass as i had expected. Iran is a different story. That regime is aiding Assad in Syria. they would use a bomb if they make one. The last thing i would want is for the US to bomb Iran. if there was a way to connect with the peolple and weaken the hardliners i'm all for it. and yes, the IED was made in Iran, so if you want to joke about saudi passports or whatever have a good laugh. but, he's dead. and he was a great guy. and the IED came from Iran. now tell me again to give it a rest. who said anything about special? he should never have been put there. Rest? that sounds something you say after a dispute over a bad call in baseball. by the way, he was a engineer sent there to rebuild the power grid. his brother, also a great guy, died under the rubble of tower 2 trying to drag an injured woman from the building. he was about 10 feet from the door.
geewhiz190 said:
The people responsible for your friend's death are the ones that sent him there. You know good and well that they'll lie about anything. Why do you believe them when they say the IED came from Iran?
Read the article below and tell me if you still think Iran had anything to do with your friend's death:
http://www.antiwar.com/porter/?articleid=11816
I'm sorry for all of your pain. But please read this:
An elite U.S. Army study center had devised a plan for enforcing a major Israeli-Palestinian peace accord that would require about 20,000 well-armed troops stationed throughout Israel and a newly created Palestinian state.
The SAMS paper attempts to predict events in the first year of a peace-enforcement operation, and sees possible dangers for U.S. troops from both sides.
Of the MOSSAD, the Israeli intelligence service, the SAMS officers say:
“Wildcard. Ruthless and cunning. Has capability to target U.S. forces and make it look like a Palestinian/Arab act.”
The amazing thing about this is that this story was reported in the Washington Post on September 10, 2001.
You do realize that the whole "war on terror" is just a contrivance to strip us of our freedoms and keep the military industrial complex churning along at full speed, right?
Trojan Obama
trojan man.... yes he can....
I am no fan of stinking Iranians... but is there a rule of law in this country anymore? I guess if you are the Prez, or a politician, or a big enough banker, it is fuck you all, we do what we want. Heat up the oil, these bastards must BOIL.
rule of law? are you kidding? that went out the window when the first "settler" shot the first native american, probaly about 200 years ago
More like 520 - but I get your drift.
Another question to consider is: "Why did they want this iniformation to get out at this time"
Everyone knows that no mainstream media outlet would EVER print something like this without the express approve of the highest powers.
Couple this with Bilderberg making the transition from covert to overt (and I think, based on the attendee list Bilderberg is now only a distraction ... they could all be simply playng tiddliwinks inside), there appears that there is a transition in how the powers that be want to be perceived.
They WANT people to know who is doing what (or at least think they know). Why? Good question and easy to guess at, but may take some time to figure out the truth.
Ruminate on this if you like conspiracies (and the only thing making it credible is that contributors are dead):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaT2G4fMT4o&feature=player_embedded
Precisely the question. The timing of this release (or that it even got out at all!), from a mouthpiece of the Obama adminstration is striking in its obviousness. Nothing so closely held is ever released without a reason, so what is the reason?
The entire current economic situation, revelation of Obama's Communist / Marxist upbringing, combined with increasing war rhetoric and now this, all seems incredibly contrived, almost as if whatever powers that be had planned a single term for Obama followed by a Romney election. Is Romney really "The Chosen One" that all this has been designed for, for some nefarious pourpose?
The first 8 minutes of the NASA vid reminds me of a class I took in college, "Space, Weapons and War" which essentially reiterated that if you control the high ground with enough firepower, you win. The rest of the video is crap about faking the moon landings and Illuminati conspiracies - definitely tinfoil hat time.
/Tinfoil off
Ummmmmm, i can tell you that things come out and that not even the Hopeychangling can control all info......so you put your spin on it along with some "inside info" that will normally try to lead AWAY from your soft spots.
While I have zero love for Iran and its weapons program, I wonder what this type of activity means for the US vis a vis China. It creates legitimacy for cyber warfare that will have serious repercussions in other cybertheatres.
I don't think either China or Russia was waiting for some form of legitimacy before engaging in their own cyber warfare. The cat is long since out of the bag, here and everywhere else.
TIME TO BRING THE REGIME DOWN PERIOD!!!!!!!
It's only an act of war when other countries do it to us.
When we fuck them over, it's for "national security" and "protecting our interests".
These bastards are way out of control, but unfortunately at least 80% of the American public are imbeciles. Nothing will change.
I don't believe that shit at all.
He invented the internet too.
Do we want to work for TEH CODEMAN STUX*?
YES WE DO!
*/SUX. delete as appropriate.
a little more shaking and all the bullshit will percolate to the top for all to bear witness to ala Internet. I don't think anyone in the world believes in their gov't anymore, if they ever did. Let it sink like a ship in the bermuda triangle when the methane bubbles overwhelms the ships buoyancy
or something
Obama also presonally signs off on all "kill list" operations. Just as Stalin sat up late at night going over the Kremlin "kill lists" we now have a president of the Untied States doing the same. Only Obama has the power to kill any person on earth anywhere and of any nationalist, including American.
This is American Freedom and Democracy. I hope we all feel safe knowing the Muslim from Kenya is hard at work approving "targeted killings".
Yes, I know, "Don't do anything wrong [in the eye's of Obama] and you have nothing to worry about." How sure are you that these powers will always be redtrained? How sure are you that IF you exercise your consitutional right to protest, that someday the list might expand?
Let me add. This is all the fault of the Kenyan Socialist Obama.
When Romeny sweeps into the White House, all this will change. A good white christian guy like Romeny will return America to the people.
Are Mormons real Christians? :-) Will bank CEO's be allowed to have multiple wives or will they still have to make do with pay for service hookers?
"real Christians?"The only real Christian was Jesus Christ and his family. He's dead and the family has been lost to history. I don't think hes coming back either.
"When Romeny sweeps into the White House, all this will change. A good white christian guy like Romeny will return America to the people."
You were being sarcastic, right?