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Obama Ordered The "Code Stux"
When Iran's nuclear facilities were publicly crippled in 2011 by what then was considered a revolutionary computer virus which destroys physical equipment, many immediately assumed the virus originated in Israel for obvious reasons. They were wrong. In what can be described as the first presidentially-mandated and condoned act of cyberwarfare, one circumventing the War Powers Act of course, the NYT informs us that the order to physically impair Iranian sovereignty came from none other than the Nobel Peace prize winning president: Barack Obama.
From the NYT:
From his first months in office, President Obama secretly ordered increasingly sophisticated attacks on the computer systems that run Iran's main nuclear enrichment facilities, significantly expanding America's first sustained use of cyberweapons, according to participants in the program.
Mr. Obama decided to accelerate the attacks - begun in the Bush administration and code-named Olympic Games - even after an element of the program accidentally became public in the summer of 2010 because of a programming error that allowed it to escape Iran's Natanz plant and sent it around the world on the Internet. Computer security experts who began studying the worm, which had been developed by the United States and Israel, gave it a name: Stuxnet.
At a tense meeting in the White House Situation Room within days of the worm's "escape," Mr. Obama, Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. and the director of the Central Intelligence Agency at the time, Leon E. Panetta, considered whether America's most ambitious attempt to slow the progress of Iran's nuclear efforts had been fatally compromised.
"Should we shut this thing down?" Mr. Obama asked, according to members of the president's national security team who were in the room.
Told it was unclear how much the Iranians knew about the code, and offered evidence that it was still causing havoc, Mr. Obama decided that the cyberattacks should proceed. In the following weeks, the Natanz plant was hit by a newer version of the computer worm, and then another after that. The last of that series of attacks, a few weeks after Stuxnet was detected around the world, temporarily took out nearly 1,000 of the 5,000 centrifuges Iran had spinning at the time to purify uranium.
This account of the American and Israeli effort to undermine the Iranian nuclear program is based on interviews over the past 18 months with current and former American, European and Israeli officials involved in the program, as well as a range of outside experts. None would allow their names to be used because the effort remains highly classified, and parts of it continue to this day.
For those confused - yes: this is an act of war. A New Normal war.
It appears to be the first time the United States has repeatedly used cyberweapons to cripple another country's infrastructure, achieving, with computer code, what until then could be accomplished only by bombing a country or sending in agents to plant explosives. The code itself is 50 times as big as the typical computer worm, Carey Nachenberg, a vice president of Symantec, one of the many groups that have dissected the code, said at a symposium at Stanford University in April. Those forensic investigations into the inner workings of the code, while picking apart how it worked, came to no conclusions about who was responsible.
And still America continues to wage war, subverting the constitution, without any Congressional approval, and without even telling the population what is really happening. Because it is "for its own good."
A similar process is now under way to figure out the origins of another cyberweapon called Flame that was recently discovered to have attacked the computers of Iranian officials, sweeping up information from those machines. But the computer code appears to be at least five years old, and American officials say that it was not part of Olympic Games. They have declined to say whether the United States was responsible for the Flame attack.
The "New Normal Gulf of Tonkin":
Mr. Obama, according to participants in the many Situation Room meetings on Olympic Games, was acutely aware that with every attack he was pushing the United States into new territory, much as his predecessors had with the first use of atomic weapons in the 1940s, of intercontinental missiles in the 1950s and of drones in the past decade. He repeatedly expressed concerns that any American acknowledgment that it was using cyberweapons - even under the most careful and limited circumstances - could enable other countries, terrorists or hackers to justify their own attacks.
"We discussed the irony, more than once," one of his aides said. Another said that the administration was resistant to developing a "grand theory for a weapon whose possibilities they were still discovering." Yet Mr. Obama concluded that when it came to stopping Iran, the United States had no other choice.
If Olympic Games failed, he told aides, there would be no time for sanctions and diplomacy with Iran to work. Israel could carry out a conventional military attack, prompting a conflict that could spread throughout the region.
Some call it irony, others collateral damage where people lose everything, including their lives. Semantics.
Remember though: they hate America for its freedoms.
Mr. Obama has repeatedly told his aides that there are risks to using - and particularly to overusing - the weapon. In fact, no country's infrastructure is more dependent on computer systems, and thus more vulnerable to attack, than that of the United States. It is only a matter of time, most experts believe, before it becomes the target of the same kind of weapon that the Americans have used, secretly, against Iran.
And it will be a shock, SHOCK when the world retaliates against America.
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Quite right! Who believes Romeny will be anything but Bush/Obama?
Well Stalin was able to assassinate Trotsky in Mexico. Took some doing though. Bet he wished he has drones. Ain't technology grand?
Yeah, back then assasinatin' was hard work involving less than reputable characters. These days, you've just got to check the leaderboard for highest scoring nerd, then offer them an upgraded console and some snacks.
Ender's Game, indeed.
bah, all it took was a low IQ stooge with a pick axe. Or a piton hammer, sources vary on that. He didn't have time to set up socialized medicine down there or he might have made it.
Hmmm, pandering liar, that says their (g)od is a homosexual with a deadly virus, and it's 2012 time for the Krugman Iranian Imam Mahdi to come down from Louie Farrakan's space ship. Lol. Uh, when do the plagues begin in Egypt? Oh yeah, when the Pharoah refuses to stop raping the slaves. Yee yee yikes. Judgment is aaah coming.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hup9oj72o4E&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PLCFD4DB29D781ED18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKrH5IXZzQE
All know this guy isn't allowed to order so much as a pepperoni pizza, yet the "New York Times" would push this sort of wacky makeover to help burnish his Mohammedan Murderin' credentials to help shore up the War Monger vote.
As if this disgusting hasbara outlet has a shred of credibility left... what hubris and disconnectedness this shows. This toilet paper is so done.
Obam is desparate to drum up some good news. Obviously leaked to the NYT to counter the bad jobs number.
Counterespionage and acts of sabotage are overt acts of war? Its a gray area. Always has been, always will be. Part of the nature of diplomacy and statehood.
Nothing new either. The US has been doing this for well over a century now with state-sponsored acts of sabotage and coutnerespionage on foreign powers. Hell even since before its founding if you considered how we treated and acted with Indian nations such as the Iroquois.
silly wabbit.....tricks are for kids
Here's a thought boys and girls. Why do the super duper ones get the moniker "Elite"? Seriously, they must have a bit of an idea that the world is waking up.
And still they get called "Elites". I have shit things down the toilet more intelligent than most career politicos.
They deserve the contempt of us, all of them, fuck me if I was half as good at my job as the ruling "Elite" are at theirs, they would fucking sack me on the spot.
Whole sale change folks, nothing less, lets fucking give these fuckers what's due. Idiots, your shit has more sense.
the day is still young
The NY Times never publishes anything of this nature unless it is both approved and demanded by our Masters. The question really is - why now? What psyops agenda is this suppose to accomplish?
Divide and confuse
polishing the turd that is the Obama presidency
the next few weeks will answer that question - these planted stories have a sell-by date, given that so many believers have ADHD now.
let's not forget that the stuxnet weapon used to physically disable Siemens digital flow controllers at the Iranian nuclear power plants were also in use at the Fukishima nuke plants that melted down(all 3). This virus produced in Israel(tel aviv) is most likely for making the nuclear disaster at Fukishima much, much worse than it already was as these controllers were rendered useless by stuxnet virus code. So, we have the rogue, racist, war mongering state of Israel indirectly responsible for the rendering of the entire pacific ocean off limits for food production going forward for the next 300 yrs! Thanks to all the paranoid jews with a persecution complex for this.
Your supposed to take your medication every day as the doctor ordered.
Have you ever heard of "you're"? This means "you are". Your? How dumb is that?
Aren't you getting a bit ahead of yourself?
He works for the goobermint.
The truth squad operatives are gonna be all over that one with neggies. So wear 'em like a Badge of Honor.
"The flak is always heaviest directly over the target"
Bring on the Israeli Jew megaphonies! They are a bunch of criminal psychopaths who will stop at nothing to conceal the true depths of their depravity and crimes against the people of the earth
So many Zionist disinfo agents EVERYWHERE these days! For instance, there is one JANET PHELAN, a supposed "investigative reporter" whom I ran across in alternative media. She is an American Jew. Suddenly, I begin getting emails with links to radio shows she is doing with Barbara Hartwell (former CIA and disinfo). Their theme? Here are her exact words below:
"Subject: Have the Nazis infiltrated the patriot movement?
The anti-Jewish impetus lurking within the “patriot movement” has raised its ugly head. Websites and radio shows galore are now denouncing the Jews as the cause of all the world’s troubles. Are we seeing Hitler redux? Tune in tonight to http://www.livestream.com/truthtalknews/from 9-10 ET as host Howard Nema , Barbara Hartwell and I talk about this disturbing development on the political scene." Additional note: Phelan's father was a "journalist" (Jack Phelan) who was in some way involved in the cover-up of the JFK murder, and an apparent FBI snitch.You turn a wild supposition into an attack on Israel. Typical Jew hater that projects his racist mentality.
wild supposition do you research jew psycho lover! it's all over the net, but I guess you probably like having your CS134 with your sushi you yuppy faggot! I'm not a typical jew lover. I am a typical asshole, psychopath hater who realizes the truth and isn't afraid to voice it. cowards like you are the ones who enable these psycho inbred assholes to flourish. history has proven that if you don't stop a group of psychopaths like Stalin(jew)/yagoda(NKVD-Jew then they take full advantage of your apathy. if israel is not soon put in its place, it will soon have the entire planet in a nuclear conflaguration. mark my words coward!
So "Jews" never do anything wrong? They are blameless throughout history?
Besides....Israel was NOT created for the Jews' benefit. The creators of modern day Israel (Rothschilde, Hertzl, et al) fully intended to use this piece of land for their elite Hegelian Dialectic football match. A real life apocolyptic nightmare, custom crafted by the Satanic Zionists for global destruction and their sick amusement.
The sanayim are really out today...the Sabbath cometh soon....
http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/national/T101004003493.htm
New cybervirus found in Japan / Stuxnet designed to attack off-line servers via USB memory sticks
http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/national/T101004003493.htm
Stuxnet could harm nuclear safety: U.N. atom chief | Reuters
http://warsclerotic.wordpress.com/2011/02/01/stuxnet-could-harm-nuclear-safety-u-n-atom-chief-reuters/
I'd have to agree with the jobs numbers...and the forward outlook globally etc etc made'em pull the trigger on this dog
A theory that actually makes sense, wow.
Every president would have done this if given the opportunity except maybe Carter. Screwing up the weapons development of a country that screams for hours daily about how everyone in your country should be killed should be a top priority. I'm just surprised they were competent enough to do it. That's some pretty tough code.
Exactly. Iranians are lying through their teeth about not ultimately pursuing large enough quantities of enriched uranium to make several nuclear warheads. It is the only way they can be ensured they have regime stability. Internally, it makes absolute sense for them to pursue it.
The question of the 21st century is going to be how to contain the nuclear genie because Iranian getting a nuke almost inevitably unleashes a nuclear arms race across the Middle East and Central Asia.
And Welcome Aboard William Kristol!
Your stuff is hilarious mate, I'll give you that.
Not to busy today to stop reading the 'The Protocols of the Elders of Zion' I guess. I have almost no doubt that the Iranians are looking to acquire large amounts of enriched uranium so that if the need would arise they would be able to quickly form 7 several warheads. They have seen what the US does to nations that don't have nukes (Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan) and those that do (Pakistan, North Korea).
I just don't favor a military strike/invasion of Iran because it ultimately won't stop Iran from acquiring nukes and would have several deleterious effects for the US.
Silly, it's a forgery. Golly, I mean everyone knows that.
Why so deathly frightened of it Biz?
Barry Soetoro!!! Did you order the Code StuX!!!!!
Your Godamn right I did!!!
Take him away bailif, the Kenyan has rights...
The purpose of this story is the same as the Kill List story--it's supposed to make Obama look like a savvy badass who uses ingenious methods to prosecute the global War on Terror. That's why these are coming out right now as the election is heating up. The tone of these articles is 100% celebratory. Someone's done some internal polling and figured that these kinds of stories are what they need to win Ohio, PA, and VA in the general.
Obama people don't give a fuck about what progressives in California and Rhode Island think, because they could literally mail bags of shit to them, and it still wouldn't turn those states to Romney.
One of the smarter replies on this thread filled with tons of the usual garbage.
It's really fascinating to me how people are unable to step outside their party affiliation to recognize how elections are won, and seem to confuse "making me really happy" with "winning a general election." I would be thrilled if someone slightly to the right of Barry Goldwater won. I also realize that someone slightly to the right of Goldwater would win about 15% of the popular vote.
Slightly to the right of Barry would be left of center at this point.
for goodness sake you dont need "INTERNAL POLLING" to realize that any prez wants to look and act tough with Texas sized balls.
ANyone that thinks a poll needs taken and/or this was a revelation as to u.s. politics is , well clueless.
Sorry.
try again when you reach puberty.
Now go along and vote, clowns.
I concluded the same thing months ago.
http://thinkingaboot.blogspot.ca/2011/05/never-consider-blowback.html
That's whats up, cripple them electronically. No Americans need die. Obama 2012!
WHAT A FUCKING LIE! Talk about relection propaganda! That lazy ass fucking bastard of a president has never taken a single second to do anything to Iran.
Obama lands in Chicago for a fundraiser today at 4:20PM. No word if Rahm Emanuel will welcome him at the airport with a bong full of hopium.
I suspect some pole smoking at man's country, their old haunt might be in order. Obonog just loves that from his old chief of "staff" rahmbo.
Obvious that Obama was ordered to order this....
Let's see. Who would runs this country? M-hmmm:
AIPAC, JINSA, PNAC, and CFR.
Cui bono?
It's not hard to figure it out. I'll give you a six-pointed star pendant if you figure it out!
I think Obama will go down in the record books as a resentful Zionist puppet, such as Wilson and Truman.
I can't stand the guy, and have no mercy for him, but has anyone noticed how blatantly miserable he looks as of late?
Obama is ordered by no one. He is your typical US citizen president. He only expresses his US citizen nature.
Bear with it.
AnAnon, are you surfing the web again where you're not supposed to be? I thought I warned you about looking up stuff on that Tianamen Square killings! Don't you know you'll get into big trouble for spreading information like that around?
STFU
telex info just in stop
intel just in stop.
nobel prize winning leader of the free world.stop
barack obama has yesterday issued a kill order. stop
on osama bin ladin of saudi arabia.stop
today are glorious leader has announced that bin ladin is dead stop
yes. Osama bin Mohammed bin Awad bin Laden is dead again.stop
yes folks tim osman was captured again yesterday.stop
president bush stated yippe kayyee motherfuckers.stop
bush also said today clearly this is a great moment for all free peoples.stop
especially the highly medicated and those who suffer from memory loss.stop
as is musselmen musslamic custom the man of terror's festering corpse will be buried at sea.stop
his armani clad cia body pointing in the direction of kim kardashian's black hole.stop
freedom smells good.stop
we got him folks again and again and again into a carl sagan billion trillion infinity.stop
tehran on fire, new york in ruins..... film at 11
If Ron Paul turns out not to be a choice for president, this is a great reason to vote for Obama.
Obama is proven to be a defender of our country. Romney is unproven and no less socialist.
LMAO!!
Which part was funny?
The whole "vote for O'bomb-a, defender of the universe" thing. Comedy gold.
Good For Him! I don't know about the Presidency, but I would make him Sec. of D. any day. Just think of all the moving costs Boeing would save.
I automatically assume that my computer is being monitored by someone at this point. That's why I keep taking them to all the really awful porn sites.
I WANT THE TRUTH!
YOU CAN"T HANDLE THE TRUTH!
YOU STAND THERE IN YOUR PRETTY DRESS UNIFORM. WHILE I STAND THE WALL PROTECTING THE VALUES AND FREEDOM YOU TAKE FOR GRANTED.
SO IF YOU DON"T LIKE MY METHODS: I SUGGEST YOU GET A RIFLE AND STAND ON THE WALL! OTHERWISE I DON"T GIVE A DAMN WHAT YOU WANT YOU WANT!
DID YOU ORDER A CODE STUX!!!
YOUR GOD DAMN RIGTH I DID! AND I DO IT AGAIN!
War Powers Act? The War Powers Act forbids the President from commiting TROOPS to armed conflict without the permission of Congress. It would not have anything to do with cyberwar. There are a plethora of reasons to castigate Obama but this is not one of them. And get your facts straight when you choose to pontificate.
Exactly. Economic posts on here are generally interesting. Foreign policy much less so and usually have are just recycled warmed over stuff from Stratfor or other places with little additional commentary. Medical/energy/food posts on here are often horrendous.
You mean like the advice to hunker down with your peanut butter, silver dollars and 57,000 rounds of ammo?
Harry Belafonte look alike probably has 666 in his scalp somewhere.
http://youtu.be/NaK2NP4bZI4
Nice one, a battle of wits is preferable to a battle of twits. I suppose i
ts similar to when sport overtook actual fighting, rape, pillage and hacking people to death with lethal weapons. This event, more than anything, signals the death knell of the military-industrial complex. It will now be known as the geek-industrial complex.Remember how Castro got even with Jack.
He outlived him?
That too.
It's Bush's fault... he started it.
the US can't afford a war with iran, even israel realizes this. the best the US and israel can do is cyberwar. the oil in iran (as well as religious differences) may cause the saudi's to bank roll the excursion at some later date if it's true about their reserves...but iran is aligned with russia, china and india, and i think any administration will choose cyber warfare first.
How 'bout No war? Hello?
Let's see, kill machines, not people. In fact, kill machines that can produce stuff that can kill people. Sounds like something to try to me.
Hey, jackasses, where is your Rothschilds theories now?
It is very likely that the Stuxnet Virus had a part in crippling the Fukishima reactor's ability to cool properly. It would be very interesting to see what sort of industrial/nuclear incidents can be tied to the Siemans SCADA controlers that this virus infected as collateral damage.
I thought Obama's presidency would be a waste of time.
Man, how wrong I was.
Thanks to the negro in the oval office, US citizens are going to be able to escalate even more the execution of their US citizen nature.
Trick is simple: due to inherent racism to US citizenism, Obama is widely perceived as non being a US citizen, he is a marxist, a muslim, a third world avenger, a black racialist or stuff like that.
In all cases, he is perceived and sold as an improper US citizen, a failed follower of US citizenism.
Obama has not done enough to help Israel. Obama wants to betray them. Obama is pro muslim etc...
Yet by all his acts, Obama qualifies as a stalwart of US citizenism. Even a zealot. Could run for the most US citizen president in history.
Thanks to this gap between reality and perception, US citizens are going to go for escalation.
Because any president coming after this Obama traitor to US citizenism will have to do more than Obama to prove that he is a true follower of citizenism.
Because if you do not do more than Obama, you cant be a true US citizen. A true US citizen would do much more than the wimp sitting in the oval office.
US citizenism on the surge.
Whoa there, Mr Anonnynonny, you almost made sense there.
if we can only keep getting them "recycled" with comments about abusing their firewall avoidance priveledges, eventually we'll find one that's tolerable.
STFU
<blockquote>"We discussed the irony, more than once," one of his aides said. Another said that the administration was resistant to developing a "grand theory for a weapon whose possibilities they were still discovering." Yet Mr. Obama concluded that when it came to stopping Iran, the United States had no other choice.
If Olympic Games failed, he told aides, there would be no time for sanctions and diplomacy with Iran to work. Israel could carry out a conventional military attack, prompting a conflict that could spread throughout the region.</blockquote>
Anybody else notice the illogic in this Obama aide quote? If we don't attack Iran first, then Israel will attack Iran. So to prevent Israel attacking Iran, we attack them first.
Logically, since Iran is not threatening to attack anyone, we should attack Israel to prevent Israel from attacking Iran. Although that assumes our real interest is preventing an attack on Iran.
I wonder how the US would react if Iran used a virus to take out one of our nuclear power plant complexes? I suspect our infrastructure is more dependent on software and thus more exposed to cyberattack than most countries including Iran.
Oh well, I guess if Iran responds, or someone mounts a false flag attack, we would have our Pearl Harbor allowing us to physically attack Iran. Of course, our attack is really only to prevent Israel attacking them first.
Insanity.
Iran is not threatening to attack anyone? They are threatening to attack Israel and the US, and their clerics have blessed the killing of all Jews.
WMD in Iraq ? Were they ever found? Don't think so. "They are threatening to attack Israel and the US" only after Israel and its protector strike first. They can't kill all the Jews because that means they would have to invade NYC, and Hollywood, a lot of cities in Europe too. Actually if they manage to knock off the Rothschild's I won't be shedding any tears.
Oh, really? How about this little gem:
http://www.uruknet.de/?p=m88481&hd=&size=1&l=e
This is why Russia, Iran, Germany (which has yet to join w/ Russia), Somalia and a few others must join forces to invade Israel on foot, none of them Arabic nations. It's in the Jewish prophets and the Superintendent, God is never wrong.
This is not "Armageddon"; that involves all of the gentile nations agst Israel. But it is the next birth pang in the delivery of the world to its rightful heir. Because Luke 1:32-3 has yet to be fulfilled,"and the LORD shall give unto Him the throne of his father David; And he shall reign over the house of Jacob forever and of his kingdom there shall be no end."
Give me your dealers cellphone number right now, i really need some of what you're smoking.
Is that something a combustible shrubbery told you?
Or did you read it on a golden plate using a magic seeing stone?
I hate to go all redteam/blueteam but WTF?
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/06/01/republicans-elect-skinhead-in-pe...
When is Obama going to Stuxnet ZH? More hot air and hedge fund propaganda comes from this ragsheet than from black-robed scare crow mullahs in Iran.
Obama (D)
Didn’t originate in Israel?
How Ironic that Obama, this foreign-born “Muslim” who’s “hard on Israel” according to the Norman Podhoretz neo-con party, one month from taking office turned over the entire U.S. foreign policy to the Mossad.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/06/confirmed-us-israel-created-s...
You have to love the audacity of calling a country you have been controlling, destabilizing or attacking for 50+ years as a hostile and rogue nation...
"Act of War" at one time meant starting a war. Thus, it implied the existence of a state in which the US govt was not actively prosecuting a war against a particular people.
I'm not sure the term applies in a world where war is the status quo.
Maybe "escalation of aggression" makes more sense?
I'm calling bullshit here. Next we are going to hear how he was the first one in on the Osama raid.
So no nukes for Iran unless they spring for new MACs, another reason to be bullish on Apple.
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Who would have thought we voted for hope and change, but instead wound up with Dr. Strangelove?
So the worm was only 20% effective!
Does he ever order anything peaceful or is it always cyberwarfare, drone strikes, assassination and fomenting rebellion?
Right. Just after Al Gore invented the internet.
BS....ZH would have been hit by stuxnet first if Obummer had anything to do with this virus...
Correction, Israel ordered the event and told Obama what to do. Have to be clear about who is the puppet and who is the puppet master.
Please.... Obama couldn't order a pizza even if his life depended on it.
Presumably The President was duly advised that if the plot were to be discovered, there would be no retaliation possible.
This man has balls.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhbRcDZiJJc
Blabberbama has now compromised and endangered a lot of lives for political gain with his bragging this secret operation. Somebody needs to unplug his teleprompter.
He has now publically admitted to an act of war which will encourage a rataliatory response from Iran or their surrogates, Hezbollah, who already have advance cells in the USA. Enforcement of a ban on sugary drinks cannot be ruled out.
Obama isn't a president, never has been. In fact the USA has not had a President for several decades now. We have mafia Dons: Ordering hits, accountable to no one, stealing with impunity, bringing about "reigme changes". We are an outlaw nation, and ultimately it will be the people who will pay. Just ask any german over 75 years of age. There is a price to pay for being lazy and allowing your country to become a criminal enterprise.
Lot of comments on this STUXNET story. The STUXNET program was also used to blow up Fukushima, my friends and Constitutionalists. 6 levels of failsafe failed one after another at Fukushima. SIX! That is all of them, and each came down like a brick. jimstonefreelance.com. Former NSA weapons analyst explains it to you, if you want the Truth. So, Fukushima can happen anywhere in the US Nuke Plants, at anytime. It wont' matter if you are long or short. Radiation could care less. These are dangerous and genocidal times. Humans may not survive their own stupidity. Splitting the Atom is easy. Stopping humans from killing each other over Bullshit, now that is another story. Pray for Awakening.
so, i've read all the postings. i have a new thought. trust me :)
so, like as i understand, we got code that destroys machines, yes?
so, destroy/build just minor math adjust, yes?
so, put it out, open source.
so,...
man try to compete against that.
go usa.
:)