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Obama Promises Bunker Busters To Israel If Netanyahu Delays Iran Invasion Until After US Elections

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Two days ago Obama held a press conference in which he openly prevaricated and disinformed the world about the true nature of his meeting with Israel PM Netanyahu. Today we find what was truly discussed, courtesy of Israel's Maariv newspaper, Spiegel and Reuters, which all tell us that it was a simple case of quid pro quo, namely that Barack Obama would supply Israel with bunker-busters and refueling planes if Bibi promised to delay an Iran attack until after the presidential election. The implication is simple - avoid an oil price shock this summer and delay it until next winter when Obama will be safely in his throne for another 4 years, at which point US citizens can fuel their cars with combustible urine following nights of binging on Everclear in hopes of ending their sorrows with alcohol poisoning, or better yet, all be in possession of the heavily subsidized flaming half ton block of metal known as the Obama Pinto, er, Volt.

Some more details on the latest horse trade from Israel Insider:

The US will supply Israel with bunker-busting bombs and refueling planes in return for delaying a strike against Iran until at least the end of the year, Maariv reported on Thursday. During their meeting earlier this week in Washington, Barack Obama promised Benjamin Netanyahu the latest deep-penetration arms from the US arsenal as well as airborne tankers to refuel strike jets necessary for an Israeli attack on Iran. In return, Israel will agree to not take any action until after the upcoming US presidential elections in November 2012.

 

Although rumors of the possible supply of new bombs and planes began even while Netanyahu was still in the US, Maariv’s claim, based on Western sources, is that supply of the equipment is conditional on postponing an attack. Obama gave Israel neither a green light for an attack, nor a red light, but rather a “bright yellow light,” sources told Maariv, adding that the yellow light is nearly red. Obama told Netanyahu that an Israeli attack, uncoordinated with the US, will have the most serious implications on regional stability and relations between the two countries. Maariv said that sources close to the recent meetings in Washington reported that it will be “difficult, if not impossible” for Israel to ignore Obama’s warnings.

 

Central to the difference of opinions is at what stage of the uranium enrichment process it will become necessary to use military force. According to intelligence reports, Iran has succeeded in enriching 120 kilogram (265 lbs.) of uranium to 20 percent purity. To make a bomb the Iranians require 250 kg (550 lbs) of 90% pure uranium. However, enriching from 20% to 90% is a relatively fast process, meaning Israel may see its window for action closing. According to Maariv, the US is prepared to wait until Iran has 250 kg of 20% rich uranium, but Israel considers the current developments beyond its own red line for action.

Perhaps it is time to make the presidential brent contango hump just a little bigger?

 

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Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:35 | 2235974 john39
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the information is all out there, but the MSM prevents the sheeple from getting access to it.... and anyone who writes about it serviously gets viciously attacked, like these guys:

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/john-mearsheimer/the-israel-lobby

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:47 | 2236035 Hugo Chavez
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All you israel supporters should be open minded enough to read this article above.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 12:14 | 2236154 john39
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btw, both those authors had their careers destroyed and were basically forced to leave the U.S., illustrating once again the power of the aipac and co. lobby arm of the mossad.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 13:01 | 2236383 aerial view
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thanks, excellent article-everyone needs to read and reference this!

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 13:06 | 2236394 aerial view
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It is also quite revealing that the majority of the comments to the article CRITICIZE AND TRY TO DISPEL ITS CONTENT!

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:26 | 2235929 daneskold
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Pinto?

 

PINTO?

 

That vehicle was a sweet ride compared to that piece of crap, glass porcupine maker, the GREMLIN!

 

Yes, this is Obama's GREMLIN!

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:32 | 2235965 WonderDawg
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It's the combustible qualities that make the Volt comparable to the Pinto.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:39 | 2235999 old naughty
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are you referring to explosive "impact"?

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:47 | 2236033 Frank N. Beans
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i paid $250 for a rusted out but working 1972 manual-shift Pinto in my college days.  Seriously there were holes in the sheet metal and in the bottom of the trunk.  It was two different colors.  I kept it going for 4 years until it died.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:38 | 2235995 Boxed Merlot
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20 years from now, you figure we'll be cutting up all these voltswagons and putting fibreglas bodies on them to sport around the beaches and dunes in?

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:27 | 2235930 Everybodys All ...
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Stop being surprised by Obama

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 13:04 | 2236389 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Tell him to stop goosing me first.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:27 | 2235931 Mariez
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Obama would not lie to Netanyahu and go back on his word after the election? No. He would never do that. 

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 12:23 | 2236194 RSloane
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He's lied to so many people so many times I'd bet he's pretty fucking confused by now.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:28 | 2235934 Moneyswirth
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So it's ok if there's a conflagration in the Middle East, so long as it doesn't interfere with Obamao's re-election?  

Stay classy douche....

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:28 | 2235937 Thamesford
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How do I go long Algea?

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:30 | 2235940 Shizzmoney
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“This is not a game,” Mr. Obama said during a news conference at the White House timed to coincide with Super Tuesday voting in the Republican primaries in a number of crucial states. Mr. Obama gave a staunch defense of his administration’s actions to rein in Iran’s nuclear ambitions and said tough sanctions put in place by the United States and Europe were starting to work and were part of the reason Iran had returned to the negotiation table.

“The one thing we have not done is we have not launched a war,” Mr. Obama said. “If some of these folks think we should launch a war, let them say so, and explain to the American people.”

How is this any different when he launches a susprise strike in Jan 2013, without approval on Congress?

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:31 | 2235952 SheepDog-One
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Yea its all just meaningless drivel.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:30 | 2235943 SheepDog-One
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This story is BULLSHIT! WTF Israel already HAS a shitload of bunker busters delivered a couple years ago! 

I dont know what this story is really about, but the headline is pure nonsense. 'Waiting on bunker busters' lol give me a break.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:43 | 2236021 a growing concern
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They don't have enough for multiple rounds of attack, which would probably be needed against the deeply buried bunkers at many of Iran's sites.  Additionally, I believe we have new tech that they don't have, though I don't think they have the bombers to deliver the new weapons.  So you'll probably see our B2s over Iran as well, just as long as they hold off until after the coronation.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:50 | 2236047 Eally Ucked
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There is only one question, what will happen if Iran concentrates on shooting down those tankers and forget about bombers and fighters for just a moment.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 15:09 | 2236838 msamour
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My concern is they decide to launch everything they got on Dimona. I don't care how many interceptors Israel's got, when you have a few thousands of missiles comming down on the same target, a few will get through. Turning Israel into a nuclear wasteland will be the only goal for Iran after they are under attack...

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 19:46 | 2241800 Herbert Philbrick
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You don't have any fucking idea what they have or don't have.  Unless, of course, you read about it on the internets, which everyone knows is a series of tubes.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 12:16 | 2236163 mess nonster
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The largest bunker-buster of them all, the Massive Ordnance Penetrator, (MOP) has (until now) been steadfastly witheld from Israel... why? A bargaining chip perhaps, just for this very reason?

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 13:07 | 2236402 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Bibi to Barry: "If I said you had a Massive Ordnance Penetrator would you hold it against me?"

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:56 | 2235944 Translational Lift
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Would you buy weapons from someone who is NOT really a good ally??  I can just see it now......new and improved bunker busters that are duds.  Yea Bibi...I'm behind you all the way......Luv, barack..........about 10 miles behind!!

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:30 | 2235946 ZeroPoint
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We have to sit through 9 more months of saber rattling before the war mongers push the button?

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:31 | 2235947 Jake88
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Ron Paul 2012

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:38 | 2235988 Dr. Engali
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I hope he runs as an independet. It certainly doen't look good for the party nomination. Even if he doesn't run I'm writing his name in. I won't vote for these other scum bags purely on principle.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:41 | 2236011 Baleful Runes 4 U
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Run as an independent?  His son voted for sanctions on Iran. You do the math

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:44 | 2236027 Dr. Engali
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I believe it's Ron Paul we are talking about and he voted against them.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:48 | 2236043 Baleful Runes 4 U
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OK, doc...keep having faith in the puppet show

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:53 | 2236065 Dr. Engali
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No BR4U I put my faith in no man. But I will stand on principle and vote for the person who has been consistant with his beliefs for 30+ years.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 12:20 | 2236182 mess nonster
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No beer for me? Did I read that right? Excellent moniker!

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 12:45 | 2236318 Baleful Runes 4 U
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Going into a voting booth to participate in a puppet show is "standing on principle"?

USA is a nation of cowards.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 13:10 | 2236415 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Then take us on, tough guy. Just the Ron Paul supporters. We'll wait for you in the back alley but I don't expect you'll show.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 14:08 | 2236634 Baleful Runes 4 U
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haha wtf are you talking about? Yeah, beating me up in a back alley would really show courage. That's what I was talking about....jesus, youre thick.

 

For the rest, youre extremely naive if you think voting for RP is going to effect any change. Or voting for anyone.

You know, people on this site believe a clown like breitbart was killed by the us government, but somehow an alleged

true threat to the entire MIC (RP) is left alone and healthy for decades? Try and think coldly and clearly about it.

 

I know, it strikes against the mythical milk you've been sucking down all your life. That you live in some kind of

representational government and that the people can make a big difference if they all just get together and

peacefully vote.

 

 

 

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 14:22 | 2236659 CrockettAlmanac.com
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But I don't believe that Breitbart was killed by the government. I had never even heard of him until he died. So one might conclude that you're an idiot in addition to being a coward.

Ron Paul is so obviously the real deal that even this anarchist will be voting for him.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 14:40 | 2236722 Baleful Runes 4 U
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note I said "for the rest"    as I indicated-- you have a reading comprehension problem.

The US government DOES kill people it views as a threat to the MIC, like Danny Casolaro. RP could have been given a heart attack quite easily (see Church Commission) at any point in the past few decades...Incidentally,why is Trygve Olson a senior advisor in the Paul campaign?

Your vote is worthless in a completely rigged, puppet system. Grow up and stop flattering yourself that you're taking meaningful action.

 

 

 

 

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 17:48 | 2237400 CrockettAlmanac.com
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You have a comprehension problem that includes far more than reading. You're not one one hundredth the man Ron Paul is and anyone who isn't insane knows it.

But please feel free to carry on until the men with butterfly nets (MWBN) get a hold of you.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 19:04 | 2237620 Baleful Runes 4 U
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"The Iranian regime is engaged in the pursuit of nuclear weapons and supports terrorism across the globe. I supported S.Amdt.1414 because the sanctions are targeted to the regime's financing of those activities through the central bank and unlike other sanctions, not against the Iranian people.

Rest assured as debate continues in the Senate regarding Iran, I will keep your thoughts in mind. Feel free to contact me again regarding any federal issue in the future.

Sincerely,

Rand Paul"

Keep sitting there like a sucker believing Ron Paul will run a 3rd party campaign. It's not called "controlled opposition" for nothin'

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 01:59 | 2238650 CrockettAlmanac.com
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But I don't believe that Ron Paul will run a third party campaign. From which portion of your diseased brain do you dredge up this stuff?

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 08:56 | 2239154 Baleful Runes 4 U
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Fine, edit "keep believing RP will run a third party campaign" (which he would if he was legit, seeing as Romney has pretty much stated he would go to war with Iran) to "keep believing RP is a true oppositional canditate, and not a convenient safety valve". You poor naive child. Go vote! Rock the system! haha

 

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 12:31 | 2243113 CrockettAlmanac.com
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I rarely vote. But a vote for Ron Paul is worth it as it upsets the powers that be almost as much at it upsets you.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:53 | 2236062 superbroker1
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If Ron Paul doesn't run I'm writing in Gucci Mane...or just not wasting my time voting.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:31 | 2235950 the 300000000th...
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How many countries has Iran invaded in the last 20 years? How many have Israel and the US along with NATO invaded in the last 20 years?? Who are we to say who can have nukes when we won't let go of ours?? I personally think we are crazier than Iran, we certainly do a lot more killing in the world. With this dillusioal utopianist view of our selves in the world that we can do no wrong and when we kill its "neccesary" and we can decides whoeveer we want has to be invaded even though they have done NOTHING!!!!!!!! I am starting to hate my country and what its stands for these days.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:42 | 2236017 Agent P
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I love my country...I just don't like the people running it.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:47 | 2236038 undercover brother
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if you hate your country, get out.  go move to Iran.  I don't recall israel ever threatening to wipe another country off the map for what they believe, or randomly blowing up innocent citizens in acts of terroristic violence.   Israel is a productive member of civil society that has had to defend itself against myriad attacks throughout its history and imho has acted with incredible restraint given its power.   FYI, the technological and scientific innovation coming out of there is proportionately the greatest from any country on the planet.  can you say that about Iran or any arab country for that matter?

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 12:18 | 2236172 Eally Ucked
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First nobody declared to wipe Israel off the map, second Israel doesn't make any declarations and just does what they want to to wipe out Palestinians at the same time declaring it's will to negotiate some elusive deal (40 years). If you look at the map of israelis expansion maybe you would understand something more.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 19:59 | 2241843 Herbert Philbrick
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You actually believe that none of the Arab countries have vowed to wipe Israel off the map?  What history books have you been reading?  You are obviously too young to remember the wars between Israel and their Arab "neighbors" in the 60's and 70's.  

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 12:20 | 2236184 the 300000000th...
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Talk is cheap so what if Iran's leader taked some trash, did he do anything about it?? No. We don't talk about wiping countries off the planet we just go do it, business as usual. Regime change is our business and business has been good for a long time. I think you are blind if you don't see a problem with our foreign policy. You are problably one of these people calling Ron Paul an isolationist for not wanting to go attack everybody in the world to liberate their resorces. Calling Ron Paul an isolationist is like calling your neighbor a hemit because he won't come over and break your windows. I don't hate everybody in this country just the blind useful idiots that can't think with an open mind. All the mindless docile consumerists that think nothing bad will ever happen, all of the bought and paid for congress and Senate. People need to wake up, something is really wrong. Our leaders arent leading anymore, they are just pandering to what all the lazy ikids and and stupid consumerists want, which is everything for free. We used to be a county mainly composed of hardworking realists determined to go out and get what they needed to put as little burden on government as possible. I think a lot of American's just want to do whatever is neccesary to live the life they don't deserve because they wanna do as little work as possible to obtain it. Look at our public schools theese days, worse than pathetic. Just a bunch of lazy unmotived ikids that just want stuff handed to them. And you wonder why I take issue with what is going on in this country today?? You think we are on the right track?? Really??

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 12:23 | 2236195 mess nonster
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"I don't recall israel ever threatening to wipe another country off the map for what they believe, or randomly blowing up innocent citizens in acts of terroristic violence."

Rememeber the stern gang, the King David hotel, Hagganah, etc? (as for randomlyu blowing up innocent civilians in  acts of terroristic violence) As for wiping nations off the map, Israel doesn't threaten, it just does...Palestine, 1948-present.

You have a piss-poor memory bro.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 12:33 | 2236236 mick_richfield
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I don't recall israel ever ... randomly blowing up innocent citizens in acts of terroristic violence.

Then you don't have a very long memory.

Irgun

Haganah

 

NOTE TO SACRILEGE: sometimes my comments end up under the wrong comment.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 12:40 | 2236241 Yardfarmer
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@undercover brother. you seem to be unaware of Operation Cast Lead where white phosphorous bombs were indiscriminately unloaded on an innocent civilian populace by your IDF, and btw scientific and technological innovation is a sword that cuts both ways, but is largely responsible for the infernal war machines that are 1.creating untold misery for a disproportionate number of non-combatants in the rapidly proliferating war zones throughout MENA especially and 2.  the incredible and obscene expenditures which are sucking the life and substance out of this planet. you are just like all chicken hawk MF'ers who sit back in the luxury of your "scientific/technological utopia" unaware that your cozy little comfort zone and all of its gadgets and accoutrements are the reason we have such a bleak dystopian of hell confronting vast numbers of those unfortunates across the world whom you dismiss with your chauvinistic and triumphalist ethnocentric bigotry. 

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 13:13 | 2236429 CrockettAlmanac.com
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I don't recall israel ever threatening to wipe another country off the map

You don't recall because you are uninformed. Get educated:

 

Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu sparked outrage in Beirut when he stated that Lebanon "does not exist on the new world map."

 

 

Read more: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/Special/2012/02/24/Hezbollah-brushes-off-Israeli-threat/UPI-95801330106171/#ixzz1oYBIM600
Thu, 03/08/2012 - 14:02 | 2236613 Gashole
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Bibi was not threatening to wipe Lbanon off the map.  He was saying that Lebanon was a vassal state of Iran and its buddy Syria.  And does the bidding of its maters.  Which is true. 

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 14:24 | 2236670 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Yeah, keep apologizing for the nation which has killed more Westerners than Iran. That doesn't make you a traitor at all.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 16:32 | 2237098 Gashole
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I am not apologizing for anything. I am an american, a jew, and a zionist in that order.  At the time of the Roman empire Jews were 10% of the world population.  100 years ago 1%.  Today 0.2%.  People have been trying to destroy us for centuries.  The difference now is that we can defend ourselves. 

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 17:54 | 2237412 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Even David Ben Gurion admitted that the Palestinians were the descendants of the Biblical Jews. So don't pretend that you represent ancient Jewry if you're an Ashkenazi rather than a Sephardic Jew. The Zionist regime is in the business of murdering the children of Abraham.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 17:54 | 2237415 blunderdog
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  At the time of the Roman empire Jews were 10% of the world population.  100 years ago 1%.  Today 0.2%.  People have been trying to destroy us for centuries.

Um...duh.  Even if not a single Jew had ever been killed by a single non-Jew in the entire history of the world, the percentage of Jews of the global population will continue to decrease.

Judaism is a non-proselytizing religion, and Jews have a lower birth rate than many other ethnic groups.  Several of the other ethnic groups are dominated by proselytizing religious belief, too.  

It just so happens that Jews may become a minority IN ISRAEL if y'all Zionists don't figure a better approach to dealing with the Palestinians.

Learn something about statistics and population dynamics.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 18:18 | 2237480 Gashole
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And that is why modern Israel was created.  Living as a minority has not gone very well for us, with the notable exception of the USA for the last 30 years or so.  Although quite a few posters here would obviously like to change that.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 18:22 | 2237498 blunderdog
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Good luck, bro.  I personally wish the best for both sides, but I fear the Israeli government has been blowing it badly for at least 20 years.

(Not that there's any value judgment in that--look at the USA.  Meh.)

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 13:49 | 2236564 AnAnonymous
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FYI, the technological and scientific innovation coming out of there is proportionately the greatest from any country on the planet. can you say that about Iran or any arab country for that matter?

_____________________________________________

Pull your weight or...

Is there any of these technological and scientific innovation that leads to a sustainable path?

Or is this just another addition to consumption, down to depletion of resources, making so that people who do not 'pull their weight' are seen as a drag on resources to foster great humanity advance?

US citizen nature is eternal

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 14:57 | 2236803 FeralSerf
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"I don't recall israel ever threatening to wipe another country off the map for what they believe, or randomly blowing up innocent citizens in acts of terroristic violence."

Alzheimer's will do that to you.  I strongly suggest you see a doctor ASAP.  Maybe it can be arrested or slowed down.

Alzheimer's Stages Info: alzresourcecenter.com

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:33 | 2235953 undercover brother
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as if we didn't already think obama was a canniving scum bag, now he's willing to gamble with another country's existence just for an election.  some things never change.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:58 | 2236086 superbroker1
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Don't mess with Zohan!

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 12:26 | 2236206 mess nonster
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You MUST be referring to Iran.

 

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:31 | 2235958 Moneyswirth
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Seriously---who the fuck is voting for this douchebag again?  Are there people out there who drank the Kool-Aid in 2008 sitting there saying  "Things are so fucking great, Obamao is so awesome I think I'll vote for him again" 

If there is I have no doubts about how fast our society is headed to the crapper. 

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:35 | 2235975 Dr. Engali
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Fuck you will be amazed at how many people wil vote for him. I find it stunning how many people I talk to that continue to defend this guy. They don't care how many brown people the nobel laureate war monger kills.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 15:20 | 2236879 AnAnonymous
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They don't care how many brown people the nobel laureate war monger kills.

____________________________________________________

Made me laugh. Or maybe they do care and find Obama's record not that bad, worth casting a vote for him once again.

US world order.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 16:51 | 2237169 Tsunami Wave
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It's pretty unbe-fucking-lievable. Look at the comments section of most news sites and you'll have hyperarrogant douchebags telling people to shut up because Obama will be re-elected in 2012.  They hate anyone that disagrees with them.. it's a weird situation but oh well what the fuck. People get what they deserve.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 20:04 | 2241862 Herbert Philbrick
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I'm still trying to get over how many people voted to re-elect Bush in 2004.  How many times does one need to be hit in the head with a hammer before they realize that it's not doing them any good?

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:36 | 2235979 WonderDawg
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It should be obvious by now that we are headed straight to the crapper at full speed. The society that we grew up believing in does not exist today.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:58 | 2236087 Jim Cramer
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The scary part is not just that, but those who support him who think "he will take care of me" including those in positions of "power".  Don't these people understand that when crazy is in control they take out whoever they feel like taking out even if you were their "friend" and consistently pulled the "trigger" for them, you'll be one of the first they dispose of.  Amazing, history consistenly repeating itself which confirms the ignorance of these individuals.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 13:14 | 2236431 blunderdog
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I don't see what the fuss is about.  Obama has kept us safe from terrists.  He's protecting the number one right of Americans: to be alive.

Why shouldn't he be re-elected?

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:31 | 2235959 RSDallas
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They are doing everything they can to get Iran to strike first  Your move Iran.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:38 | 2235991 Hugo Chavez
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Wont happen. Iran is not the problem and will not start a war.

In spite of illegal overflights and killings of scientists Iran wont strike back. Imagine what the USA would have done if someone were killing our acientists.

Iran has the right to enrich nuclear material under the non proliferation treaty. They are also free to cancel the treaty and be free of its regulatory requirements, just like Israel, which never signed the nonproliferation treaty.

If israel attacks then it is time to go after zionists everywhere.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 12:19 | 2236180 eatthebanksters
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Iran won't attack because they know they'll get their asses kicked...you can be sure if they thought they would come out of a war victorious and intact that they wouldn't blink for a second at the opportunity to attack Israel. Take off you beer googles Chavez!

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 12:25 | 2236205 Baleful Runes 4 U
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That's a useless mental exercise, seeing as even if they nuked Israel , Israel's submarines would take them out.

If we're getting into useless mental exercises, how about if the UK/US hadn't overthrown Iran's gov't in the 50s, paving the way for the current theocracy?

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 12:28 | 2236222 mess nonster
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Right on BR4U- we didn't have such a high regard for democracy then, did we?

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 12:53 | 2236357 Hapte
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Or, ever?

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 22:55 | 2238362 Gashole
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In WW2 the continental US was barely scratched. It was never the stated intention of Germany or Japan to wipe the US off the map.  After Dday the survival of the US was never in doubt. Yet your and my parents firebombed tokyo and dresden not to mention hiroshima and nagasaki.

Israel is surrounded by enemies who call for its destruction and rain down missiles.  She has the power to devastate her neighbors in a single afternoon.

Who is more moral? modern Israel or the greatest generation? 

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:40 | 2236007 SheepDog-One
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I agree RDallas thats exactly it, theyre stuck. They want to attack Iran and get their oil, but there is no support for it from anyone, and their attempts to get Iran to strike first have failed...now just push out till the end of the year as cover for failure....their backs are against the wall big time and they look STUPID rattling their sabres about Irans 'imminent threat'. 

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:47 | 2236037 Silver Dreamer
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Iran will eventually strike.  It will be a successful underground test on their own soil however.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:32 | 2235961 surf0766
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They will not wait.  This is just a pr game. Someone needs cover..

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 12:23 | 2236197 eatthebanksters
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For sure Israel won't wait if they feel threatened...do you thnk Bibi, for one minute, trusts Obama?  First of all, when it comes to Israel's security, Bibi won't trust an outsider - I wouldn't if I were him either.  Second, he has experienced Obama's words and actions and found a wide chasm between the two...remember that time Barry had Bibi at the White House and made him wait while he ate dinner with his family and didn't invite Bibi to dine with them?  Bibi will do what Israel needs to do on Israel's schedule...I only hope that  the timing works out to be during Barry's dinner time during the final election run... 

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 13:20 | 2236456 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Israel has killed more Westerners than Iran has. Do you feel threatened yet?

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 13:41 | 2236516 DosZap
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eatthebanksters

Whoever gave you a RED is wrong IMHO,

Every country has an INHERENT right to exist.And, if YOU were in his shoes, would you not try to do all thats possible to save your nation?.

Hell yeah.

BTW, the attitudinally challenged little DICTATOR in Iran is now supplying DRONES to ChaveZ.

North Korea has been testing nukes for Iran, and helping them produce them.

NO one can trust a fascist, with an agenda.

 

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 14:37 | 2236679 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Only individuals possess rights. Nations are artificial constructs and have no inherent rights whatsoever. If a nation can claim to have rights those rights actually belong to the individual citizens of that nation and are conveyed to the nation through the willing consent of the governed.

Therefore nations do not have a right to secure their existence through immoral acts as no individual possesses such a right and can not convey that right to the nation.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:32 | 2235964 Hugo Chavez
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How pathetic.

Barry Soetoro is now trying to appease our masters with gifts so that they pretty please dont attack until after the election.

Our masters will have been too clever by far if they drag us into a war. I suspect it will be the beginning of the end of zionist influence in the usa.

Good riddance.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:34 | 2235972 The Axe
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awesome..he needs another Peace prize for this accomplishment!!!!

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:37 | 2235986 FunkyOldGeezer
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I'm no conservative, but Obama has been the most ineffectual President of the United States in living memory. He is absolutely clueless, BUT looking at the presidential candidates, the rest even more so. How could anyone in their right mind, vote for any of them?

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:38 | 2235989 weyes1
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ZEROHEDGE:  Bringing out the best of America since 2009.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:38 | 2235990 jtmo3
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Please tell me BiBi isn't really stupid enough to believe this lying ......

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:38 | 2235992 SheepDog-One
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SO now we have 3 carrier battle groups on station in the Gulf that will just do circles until 2013? 

Bullllllllshiiiiiiit.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:38 | 2235994 lakecity55
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After the election, when he seizes full dictator power, he can liquidate all opposed to him (NDAA) and easily follow the orders of his Zionist Masters. He would be able to supply them with anything in the arsenal.

Of course, he may also be planning to backstab Israel and allow them to be destroyed. We don't yet know the orders he has been given.

I think it's a 50-50 shot on the seizure of power; Absolute Control of the government would allow him to attempt the installation of a totalitarian state under the Banksters' control.

Liquidation of 20-30 million Americans would match the number outlined by his mentor, William Ayers in the Prairie Fire manual.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:43 | 2236024 SheepDog-One
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'After election' he can do all that? Well, whats stopping him right now? Not a damn thing.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 14:01 | 2236607 Demologos
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How about an impeachment resolution just introduced by Congressman Walter Jones?

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 14:45 | 2236755 lakecity55
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It's a start. Unless the Congress asserts its authority now, they will discover shortly they are irrelevant and will be dissolved by EO.

Citzen pressure on Lawmakers will aid in them developing a backbone (I hope).

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 14:42 | 2236729 lakecity55
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I believe it will require a "special event" at this point in order to seize power. Something Big.

"...Therefore, because of this terrible____________ event, I have no choice but to regretfully declare an imminent emergency. My authority will last only as long as it takes to restore_________."

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:38 | 2236000 monopoly
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Look, I am sick of Obama, but this report is absurd. I cannot believe that Obama is that stupid and 4 more years at any cost. This cannot be true. If it is, then we are all screwed.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:47 | 2236026 Randall Cabot
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Obama is an actor reading a script written by jew supremacists.

Rothschild's Choice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbbf7yugiZQ

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:57 | 2236083 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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If you are going to blame someone, blame Akhenaten, he started the whole One True God meme.  And besides, he is likely Moses.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 12:03 | 2236106 john39
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yeah but, are you sure what side he was on...    if history paints him as a bad guy, take a closer look...  because we know who controls history... just sayin.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 13:56 | 2236587 Randall Cabot
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The current meme, the one that is destroying America, is jewish supremacism. Download and read this book and take yourself to the next level of understanding:

http://www.prometheism.net/library/CultureOfCritique.pdf

 

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 20:11 | 2241876 Herbert Philbrick
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I guess you've read and believed every word of The Protocols of the Elders of Zion.  You seem stupid enough.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 20:10 | 2241873 Herbert Philbrick
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Fuck you and your anti-Semitic comments, asshole...

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:50 | 2236048 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Obama is an idiot.  Hasn't everyone met someone like this before?  Somewhat elequent, somewhat coherent, and sometimes the guy can give a quote, but how well does he explain the quote?  How well does he explain himself.  He doesn't.  He can't offer any solution other than

"Cuz 'Merca is great!"

He uses fallacious arguement after fallacious arguement, and the only reason he is still in ofice is because people are just as dumb as he is.

And to clarify my definition of dumb:  A straight A grad from Haavad can be dumb.  An econ Prof can be dumb.  Just because they hace a piece of paper on their wall doesn't mean they have any logic in their brains, it just means that they jumped through the bureaucracy's hoops like good little fascist prostitutes.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 13:52 | 2236572 AnAnonymous
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Ummmm and how does he sound different from your typical US citizen president?

'America' is great. Well, that is what US citizens living in the US of A want to hear.

Would not call a guy who delivers what US citizens want to hear and get what he wants from them by doing so a dumb guy.

I would simply your typical US citizen.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 12:33 | 2236252 mess nonster
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Why wouldn't you believe it? Didn't Reagan do the same thing, allowing the hostages to languish in Iran for over a year so he could win the election, and add to that tipping the Iranians off to the helicopter rescue mission so all those men could be shot down and killed?

This is exactly what is to be expected.

Nonetheless, Israel will attack Iran alone, without explicit help from the US.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 13:01 | 2236380 Esso
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From Wikipedia, "Iran hostage crisis":

On January 20, 1981, at the moment Reagan completed his 20-minute inaugural address after being sworn in as President, the 52 American hostages were released by Iran into U.S. custody, having spent 444 days in captivity.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 15:10 | 2236844 FeralSerf
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What did he know and when did he know it?  It has been alleged that he never knew much ever.

It can be shown that the likely perps of the October surprise were more likely the infamous criminal Bush family and their neoconmen co-conspirators instead of poor Dumbfuck Ron, the two-bit actor.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 20:16 | 2241882 Herbert Philbrick
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Jeebus, I think Reagan was a brain-dead tool of the corporatists, but do you really believe that?  How the hell did he have anything to do with the release of the hostages prior to his being sworn in?  Carter is the one that authorized the fuck-up rescue mission.  By the way, they weren't shot down.  How stupid are you?

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:47 | 2236034 sangell
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The refueling aircraft issue seems unclear. Unless the US is going to operate them then the Israeli Air Force would not just be able to take delivery of them and go launch its attack. It would have to train crews to operate them and practice the mission as they will really only have one chance. If the US is to provide aerial refueling for an Israeli strike force then we are part of the attack. Putting Luftwaffe pilots and planes aboard Japanese aircraft carriers would not have absolved Japan of responsibility for Pearl Harbor!

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:48 | 2236039 JR
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Antiwar.com reported yesterday that “special operations forces from the U.S. and its allies have been on the ground in Syria since at least December, according to confidential emails from the private intelligence firm Stratfor that were released by WikiLeaks.”

The article, Stratfor Emails: Covert Special Ops Inside Syria Since December, says:

An analyst from Stratfor claimed in December 2011 that officials at the Pentagon clued him in on covert military operations taking place in Syria. ‘After a couple hours of talking, they said without saying that SOF [Special Operations Forces] teams (presumably from US, UK, France, Jordan, Turkey) are already on the ground focused on recce [reconnaissance] missions and training opposition forces,’ the email said.”

The email continued:: “’One Air Force intel guy (US) said very carefully that there isn’t much of a Free Syrian Army to train right now anyway, but all the operations being done now are being done out of ‘prudence,’ it continued. ‘They have been told to prepare contingencies and be ready to act within 2-3 months, but they still stress that this is all being done as contingency planning, not as a move toward escalation.’”

Said Antiwar’s John Glaser yesterday: “Publicly, the Obama administration has retreated from its initial refusal to stay out of the conflict in Syria by agreeing this week to provide direct humanitarian and communications assistance to the Syrian opposition. While the official line remains to keep military options off the table for now, the change in policy could open the flood gates for expanded military intervention."

Said Glaser:  According to the Stratfor analyst, after rejecting the prospect of ‘an eventual air campaign,’ the officials at the Pentagon told him ‘the idea “hypothetically” is to commit guerrilla attacks, assassination campaigns, try to break the back of the Alawite forces, elicit collapse from within.’”

http://news.antiwar.com/2012/03/07/stratfor-emails-covert-special-ops-inside-syria-since-december/

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 12:18 | 2236174 therearetoomany...
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Once again we see Obomber's strategy....and it's easy to predict.  

 

1) What is the absolute worst course of action?

2) Do it!

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 14:37 | 2236709 bugs_
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What would bush do?

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 21:17 | 2238063 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Bush would do what he was told to do, exactly as Obama is doing.

 

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 14:06 | 2236630 Common_Cents22
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Why Syria now? Why Syria first?   that is real easy.  Look at a map.

 

Syria is a path to Iraq and then on to Iran.

Can't cross Jordan, Can't cross Saudi Arabia.    Destabliize Syria and you got airspace to cross.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:49 | 2236042 TuesdayBen
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Maybe Obooba can get his good bud, explosives wiz Bill Ayers, to lay a bomb on 'em.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:56 | 2236049 jcaz
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Fuck you, Barry- can't say it enough- feels good....

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:51 | 2236051 roadhazard
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Sounds like more DEBKA BS.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:53 | 2236068 SheepDog-One
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Yea it does...a few weeks ago we heard how Israel was going to launch an invasion into Iran, US be damned they were going to keep it to themselves and do it themselves. Now suddenly Iran is on Obamas short leash and needs bunker busters and refeuling planes, whih will be provided in 2013? What a joke.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 14:39 | 2236717 DosZap
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SDOne,

If you think Izzy will not launch w/out Obummers BS, your not thinking clearly.

He has just become pro Israel as the election approaches...................

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:51 | 2236055 SheepDog-One
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Wait....remember a month ago all the 'Israel to attack Iran at any minute and will not let the US in on it'....now we're at 180 degree spin where OBAMA is controlling the entire thing and has Israel on a short leash directing when and where?

This is utter bullshit 100% propaganda fakery.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 12:25 | 2236200 lizzy36
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Couple of minor points.

Israel CANNOT do shit without those bunker busters that the US supplies them with.

In the last month we have seen the price of oil go up by about 12%. Making Obama all too aware of the fact that if he wants a second term, he will delay those "bunker busters".

A month ago Israel was chomping at the bit, this week their leash got shortened considerably.

Like all marathon games of chess it evolves.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 13:36 | 2236502 Citxmech
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We've already given them more than 200 - how the f'k many do they need?

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 13:19 | 2236450 blunderdog
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Yep, that's my read too, 'Dog.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:53 | 2236063 israhole
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When Israel isn't threatening to attack it's enemies, it extorts it's ally/Golem.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:55 | 2236072 SheepDog-One
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Yea well I dont believe a word of any of this. AmerIsraels back is against the wall.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 12:00 | 2236095 SheepDog-One
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A'ight HOLD UP ya'll....yea I know this war was front and center, but see now I got an election to worry about so thats off till I can pimp my ride with some more bling spinner hubs and jewels for Chelle-Chelle....THEN invasion of Iran is ON baby ohhhh yeaaaaaa.

Signed, Emperor ObaMao.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 12:11 | 2236098 davood
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It's truly amazing that the fate and lives of some 80 million Iranians, and subsequently the rest of the world, hangs on the whims of a half-nig*er, non-US born citizen whose only concern is that of his semi-permanent address for the next four years.

Only goes to show how totally fucked up is the "hope of the world."

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 12:15 | 2236158 therearetoomany...
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Where's that peace prize? 

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 11:47 | 2243055 therearetoomany...
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What, some on here actually believes he deserves that peace prize?  

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 13:28 | 2236480 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Calling Obama a nigger only strengthens his hand, dumb ass.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 13:56 | 2236589 AnAnonymous
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Half nigger, half Indo European and what matters the most, fully proponent of US citizen, that miracle brought to humanity and started in 1776, July, 4th.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 14:16 | 2236648 Demologos
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Obama is all American.  Mother and father (Frank Marshall Davis Jr.) both born in Kansas.  He is the Frank in the Dreams of My Father book.  Obama states that his father fought in WWII, but Obama Sr. was too young for that.  Davis served as a US Marine in WWII.  While living in Hawaii, Davis made a hobby of treating white women to his black mamba and knocked-up Obama's momma.  Davis later worked in Chicago as a ... wait for it ... community organizer.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 14:45 | 2236753 AnAnonymous
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Do you have anything to provide to support that Obama is not a proponent of US citizenism?

Because there are shiploads of evidences to state that Obama is your typical US citizen.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 12:01 | 2236100 Winston Churchill
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If I was sitting in Tehran right now I would be ordering full steam ahead on

refinement of more uranium.

We are backing them into a corner just like Japan in 1941.

We have already declared war by any non Orwellian standard.

Drones,assasinations,Stuknet,sanctions,and embargo"s are the very definition of acts of

war..

The Persians are a proud race.I am amazed they have not retalliated yet.

Just how much provacation can they take ?

 

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 12:07 | 2236123 john39
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Clearly, they have superior leadership and have not taken the bait.... doesn't seem to jive with the MSM portrayal of them as crazed religious fanatics bent on death and destruction does it?  Lets face it, if some other country even thought about taking any of those steps against Israel or the U.S., the bombs would have been flying on day one.   That is probbly why the zio ogres can't figure out why Iran is not taking the bait.  clearly they are the superior chess players in this game.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 12:39 | 2236289 mess nonster
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The MOP can penetrate to 200 feet before exploding. Double that (because they aren't going to give us the true numbers) and if I were an Iranian, I'd be digging deeper.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 12:46 | 2236327 Winston Churchill
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The MOP is not ecen new technology.

Look up Barnes Wallis's earthquake bomb used on U-boat pens

in WWII.

MOP is a very expensive re invention of old tech.

Your tax dollars at work !

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 12:03 | 2236102 marcusfenix
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bush league, banana republic politics, and they don't even really try to hide it anymore.

and you really think Mittens or Flipper or Satantorum would be any different?

hell no, they all read from the same playbook, teleprompters all, just look at HR 347, it passed with only 3 nay votes and one of them was RP. dems and repubs voted almost unanimously in favor of the serfs being exposed to the risk of being hit with a felony for implementing the 1st amendment. 

all your politicians are belong to us, bitchez.

why this gesture of confidence, this nod to helping Obama secure another term from the PTB's, I don't know, they win either way so why do they give a shit?

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 12:03 | 2236110 azzhatter
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If you don't get a chill from Panetta's comments yesterday before congress saying that he will seek "international permission" to go to war in Syria you aren't paying attention. This is no longer the country you grew up in. Exactly what the fuck is "international permission" to send our military to action?

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 12:14 | 2236151 therearetoomany...
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This is treason.   And the president has committed treason.   They both have said they don't need congressional approval because they have UN approval.

 

Highest yard arm...

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 14:06 | 2236626 blunderdog
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When was the last time Congress declared war?  When was the last time the USA went on a military excursion?

Congress is a joke.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 15:10 | 2236837 therearetoomany...
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This is true, but if we don't start enforcing the constitiution soon, it's gone for good-especially if this guy is re-elected guns will be rounded up just to start.  

 

As far as starting to get back to the constituion, if not now, when?

 

Also, we need to put McCain on same f**king yard arm

 

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 15:56 | 2236998 blunderdog
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I understand the desire, but it's already way too late.  We have to wait until something breaks--the system is no longer capable of self-repair.

Where will you expect to get enforcement when the branch of government in charge of enforcing the law is breaking it?  What can you do when the branch in charge of creating legislation can no longer exert authority over the executive?

I remember during the days of the Clinton impeachment, I was thinking to myself that the system was going to fail because every President who had strong partisan enemies was going to be impeached for total bullshit.  Turns out I was right about the effect, but wrong about the process: the President can no longer be threatened with impeachment because Congress is afraid of appearing to engage in a partisan witch-hunt.

Talk about "unintended consequences," heh.  There ya go.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 15:44 | 2240735 therearetoomany...
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I must admit you probably are right.  

But, he is treasonous.   He is downright hostile toward the constitution and the US in general. 

Let's hope we get him tossed out and whatever puppet is thrown in there will at least back out some of the shit. 

Finally, I find it highly ironic that the first 'black' president (not counting clinton) is the one that is putting us all into slavery.

 

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