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Obama Says Debt Deal Reached, America To Avoid Default, Or "Hank Gave Us A 3 Page Term Sheet; Boehner Gives Us A 7 Slide Powerpoint"

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Sun, 07/31/2011 - 21:05 | 1511045 anynonmous
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all praise to Obama

Sun, 07/31/2011 - 21:07 | 1511059 66Sexy
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So... Ater all that, its just a 2.5 trillion debt ceiling raise.

What a bunch of bullshit.

Sun, 07/31/2011 - 21:11 | 1511076 NewThor
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ZOMG. can't wait to read this beauty! Anyone wanna guess the # of pages?

Sun, 07/31/2011 - 21:23 | 1511149 hedgeless_horseman
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"We are saved!  Praise Obama!"

-The Bankers

Sun, 07/31/2011 - 21:41 | 1511214 Fish Gone Bad
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In the future, it will be important to remember who were the debt criminals, and who their fellow conspirators were.  The US is so screwed up they do not even know how screwed they are.

Sun, 07/31/2011 - 22:09 | 1511302 IBelieveInMagic
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More likely the rest of the world is more screwed that USA -- we just put out the $ and the rest of world delivers! This elaborate dance was just to show the rest of the world that we take our reserve currency status responsibility very seriously but the outcome was predictable. Let us see if anyone has the balls to challenge this...

Sun, 07/31/2011 - 22:35 | 1511356 bankrupt JPM bu...
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IB raises silver margins tonight.  I encourage everyone to pull their accounts at open.

 

www.silvergoldsilver.blogspot.com

Sun, 07/31/2011 - 22:47 | 1511380 TruthInSunshine
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 Government of the banks & Wall Street, by the banks & Wall Street, for the banks & Wall Street.

 

Bitchez.

Sun, 07/31/2011 - 23:50 | 1511483 redpill
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So now it becomes clear that the Republican party establishment would rather cooperate with Democrats than allow the tea party wing to dictate anything.  The One Party is alive and well.

 

Sun, 07/31/2011 - 23:54 | 1511492 DoChenRollingBearing
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Green for you.  In fact, I think I'll just go give ANYONE who has ANY bad thing to say about ANY of our .gov a green.

"Serial Greener" now running through this thread.

Sun, 07/31/2011 - 23:55 | 1511490 FEDbuster
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QE 2,800,000,000,000., bitchez!!

"The Federal Reserve has devalued the dollar 97% in just under 100 years, the next 97% devaluation won't take them that long." Dr. Marc Faber 2010

Hasten the Collapse, OBAMA 2012

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 00:40 | 1511570 chalcedonite
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What do you mean it is not for the people:  

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/92179.html

By the way the origination of the quote was not by Lincoln but by Wycliffe in 1328:


This Bible is for the government of the people, by the people and for the people.

"Wycliffe and his associates defied church tradition by translating the Latin Bible into English, declaring in the preface, “The Bible is for the Government of the People, by the People, and for the People.” In 1382 Wycliffe was condemned as a heretic; in 1409 the Church ordered all copies of his Bible and other writings to be surrendered and burned. Wycliffe so angered the powers of the Church that although he died of natural causes, 44 years after his death the Council of Constance ordered that his bones be dug up and burned at the stake."

 

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 05:09 | 1511823 falak pema
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And for good measure the same council invited Jan Hus, the czech Wycliffe of that age, to Constance as a diversion. The Constance papal conclave held in 1414-1415, a bit like the current Congress in gridlock today, was bickering about who was the real pope. They had a choice between three pretenders : The french pope in Avignon, the Tuscan pope in Pisa supported by the now powerful Medicis family of Florence, and the Roman pope proposed by the germanic holy emperor. As the ecclesiastic conclave was unable to resolve this MAJOR political fight, promoted by three rival political groups, they thought of an  expediency to while away their frustration. They invited Jan Hus to come present his deviant theories to them to DEBATE under safe passage to COnstance and personal protection offered by the Holy Roman Emperor himself, through heir apparent Sigismund of Hungary. Once in COnstance, the clergy immediately put him to trial for heresy, condemned him and burnt him at the stake! That's politics for you!

The papal conclave resolved itself when France lost a major battle at Agincourt that summer and that put an end to french pretentions. The papal seat moved back from Avignon to Rome. A NEW pope, not one of the three intial canditates, was elected and papal presitge and serenity was restored once again in Rome. 

Morality : We need change so that nothing changes!  Remember what Lampedusa said in "the Leopard" ...Keep your eyes on the POTUS and Congress. You'll see that history repeats itself...

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 06:38 | 1511871 chalcedonite
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I am wondering if this video I posted is getting watched.  The entire system is a money laundering criminal syndicate organized to take, extract, and monopolize real wealth.  

Sun, 07/31/2011 - 21:31 | 1511186 smlbizman
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you know it is full of such bullshit like the 1099 fiasco.....radio frenquency bullshit , probably the rent free foreclosure solution, you know, to help housing...and on and on and.... 

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 00:12 | 1511522 Al Gorerhythm
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Here's the condensed DC interpretation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skU-jBFzXl0

Sun, 07/31/2011 - 21:15 | 1511089 FEDbuster
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"Cut, Cap and Balance" replaced with "Spend, More and Borrow".

Hasten the Collapse, OBAMA 2012

Death by a 1,000 increses.

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 00:26 | 1511548 Mike2756
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Curious, wonder if the Fed will be forced to defend the currency at some point. The current regime had a chance to do serious infrastructure work and blew it. Are they planning on massive spending before the auto-cuts kick in?

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 07:38 | 1511942 New_Meat
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"... had a chance to do serious infrastructure work and blew it."

Au contraire, mon ami.  It was all part of the plan.

- Ned

{Getting sick of watching the boy-Plouffe on the TV yet?}

Sun, 07/31/2011 - 22:03 | 1511279 mickeyman
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They just delayed it keeping you all in suspense to the last possible moment so the populi would gratefully accept whatever got shat out.

Sun, 07/31/2011 - 23:23 | 1511444 monkeyboy
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An interesting comment that was posted on the MSNBC article by one of the readers in response to another commenter.   

 

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Link: http://politics.newsvine.com/_news/2011/07/29/7198935-obama-announces-debt-agreement#c56519426
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The U.S. Congress sets a federal budget every year in the trillions of dollars. Few people know how much money that is so we created a breakdown of federal spending in simple terms. Let's put the 2011 federal budget into perspective:

U.S. income: $2,170,000,000,000
Federal budget: $3,820,000,000,000
New debt: $ 1,650,000,000,000
National debt: $14,271,000,000,000
Recent budget cut: $ 38,500,000,000 (about 1 percent of the budget)
It helps to think about these numbers in terms that we can relate to. Let's remove eight zeros from these numbers and pretend this is the household budget for the fictitious Jones family.

Total annual income for the Jones family: $21,700
Amount of money the Jones family spends: $38,200
Amount of new debt added to the credit card: $16,500
Outstanding current balance on the credit card: $142,710
Amount cut from the current budget: $385
So in effect last month Congress, or in this example the Jones family, sat down at the kitchen table and agreed to cut $385 from its annual budget. Cut $385 of spending in order to solve $16,500 in deficit spending? Will this work? Hmmmmmmm!

It is a start, although hardly a solution.

Now after years of this, the Jones family owes $142,710 of debt on its credit card, and can barely pay the interest each month.

You would think the Jones family would recognize and address this situation, but it does not! ............... Neither does Congress.

The root of the debt problem is that the voters typically do not send people to Congress to save money. They are sent there to "bring home the bacon" to their own home state. Sort of like the "Gimmee Tribe".

To effect budget change, we need to change their job description and give Congress new marching orders.

It is awfully hard (but not impossible) to reverse course and tell the government to stop borrowing money from our children and spending it now.

In effect, what we have is a reverse mortgage on the country. The problem is that the voters have become addicted to the money. Moreover, the American voters are still in the denial stage, and do not want to face the possibility of going into rehab.

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Sun, 07/31/2011 - 23:58 | 1511500 Cursive
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@monkeyboy

Thanks for re-posting.  That's a really good example of the Ponzi we are in.  Man we are screwed.  Nights like this remind me why prepping has become a national pasttime for some.

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 01:42 | 1511686 Id fight Gandhi
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But the jones can't print money. USA can.

Sun, 07/31/2011 - 21:12 | 1511087 Id fight Gandhi
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Here comes qe3 too.

Why not just put that in th CONstitution now. Free money for the rich and fuck every working person.

Sun, 07/31/2011 - 23:51 | 1511487 DoChenRollingBearing
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QE-to-infinity, that's it.

I am appalled that even the Republicans want to destroy our country too.

Getting off the grid, leaving the country (if you have money), buying gold and/or many other things need to be moved to the top of EACH OF OUR to-do lists.

Cognitive Dissonance wrote a timely a piece theree at the top.  Well worth the ffort to read it.  It's our fault too.

:(

-2.7 trillion MORE junks to you .gov.

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 00:05 | 1511511 Cursive
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@DoChenRollingBearing

I am appalled that even the Republicans want to destroy our country too.

You know I respect you as a fellow zherohead, but I gotta call bullshit on this Republican love. I don't know, maybe I misread you and you were being sarcastic. Boehner got no concessions and he "capitulated".  I put quotes around the capitulation because his intentions were not sincere.  Oh well, another log on the funeral pyre of a once great and proud nation.

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 00:37 | 1511563 Vic Vinegar
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+1 to respect to the old-school.  You are correct Cursive.

 Re: DoChen's comment: It's our fault too...Bull-fucking-shit.  We were born into this dude.

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 01:51 | 1511690 Richardk888
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It is our fault.  The American people have stood by and allowed this to happen over the span of the last 100 years.

People should be in the street right now protesting this atrocity that is occupying the three branches of government.

"The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing."
Albert Einstein


 "All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent."                       Thomas Jefferson

 

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 06:10 | 1511856 KowPie
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You can go to the streets and protest until the Kows come home. It would make good soundbites and great fodder for all of the corrupt mass media but that's all it would accomplish at this stage. Take it up a notch with armed insurrection and prepare for your lunchbox to be stuffed with gas grenades and hot lead.

The only solution is to keep feeding the little boy standing on the kitchen chair more rope until he has enough to loop it from his neck over the rafter. And then his playmates will kick the chair out from under him and wonder why the game is suddenly over. They'll keep printing and spending until the raft goes over the edge of the waterfall and won't stop a second sooner, you can "bank" on it.

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 01:34 | 1511677 grey7beard
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.>> even the Republicans want to destroy our country too.

As this place is crawling with Republican Party cheerleaders, could one of you please remind me of the last time the Republicans did something good for the country.  Does the Gramm-Leach-Blailey bill ring a bell with any of you folks?

Sun, 07/31/2011 - 21:26 | 1511154 SloMoe
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So, all the little girls in Washington DC can go back to playing jacks, and Obama won't miss his tee-off tomorrow. I'll bet he, at least, is relieved...

Sun, 07/31/2011 - 22:10 | 1511304 Translational Lift
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Yea....CONgress and the administration just relieved all over the US people...........

Sun, 07/31/2011 - 23:29 | 1511457 GoinFawr
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Are you feeling that warm trickle down yet?

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 06:12 | 1511857 KowPie
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That's why it's called "GOOberment"

Sun, 07/31/2011 - 22:01 | 1511274 NumNutt
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Wouldn't it be funny as hell if this gets defeated in congress due to the lack of democratic support? After all that high five'n by all the leaders, what would Obama say then?

Sun, 07/31/2011 - 23:30 | 1511460 I am a ..
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Wouldn't it be funny as hell if this gets defeated in congress due to the lack of democratic support? After all that high five'n by all the leaders, what would Obama say then?

Still the possibility that the 'Debt Deal' could be a trap.  Bushwhacking coming up at the OK Congress Corral?????

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 00:57 | 1511608 Yen Cross
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-44 to +51... Where do I mail the invitations?

 

                  YEN (DOT)? (: Sarc

Sun, 07/31/2011 - 21:04 | 1511048 razorthin
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So the corpse avoids mutilation.  Whew.

Sun, 07/31/2011 - 21:12 | 1511093 Doyle Hargraves
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More fresh brains to keep the zombie going...

Sun, 07/31/2011 - 22:25 | 1511340 old naughty
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Hannibal and us.

ZOM...!!!

Sun, 07/31/2011 - 21:21 | 1511110 razorthin
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So we go from -$10T to -$15T in 5 years, and we are supposed to be giddy about a $1T reduction over 10 years.  What kinda moron buys into this (literally)?  And holds beyond Tuesday, that is.

Sun, 07/31/2011 - 21:44 | 1511225 Fish Gone Bad
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Apparantly a lot of elected debt criminal morons

Sun, 07/31/2011 - 22:06 | 1511288 HoofHearted
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I'm that moron! I've bought several gold and silver coins at auction this evening. Prices are better than ever. Nobody wants real money when there will be BennyBux to go around.

Sun, 07/31/2011 - 21:05 | 1511051 buzzsaw99
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1) brief relief rally

2) brief bond crash

3) eternal QE

Sun, 07/31/2011 - 21:08 | 1511067 knukles
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WHich means business as normal....
Invest as normal.... Gold, silver, non-US dollars, Swissy, TIPS... etc.

Sun, 07/31/2011 - 23:58 | 1511501 DoChenRollingBearing
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Gold and silver, yes.

I wish I could hand out more thn one greenie at a time.

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 00:59 | 1511614 Yen Cross
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 +1 for the " Hell " of it Buzz...

                                                           Yen

Sun, 07/31/2011 - 21:05 | 1511052 Bent Nail
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One trillion in deficit reduction over 10 years. Pure magic. How did they do it?

Sun, 07/31/2011 - 21:35 | 1511198 CrashisOptimistic
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It's not magic.

It's serial backstabs.

Did you see that part about Medicare benefit *providers* are the ones cut, not the benefit recipients?

That's what the AMA gets for supporting Obamacare.

Sun, 07/31/2011 - 22:08 | 1511296 hedgeless_horseman
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...and don't forget about those cocksuckers at the MGMA.

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