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Obama Wants His Drone Back
Several days after being humiliated by Iran which either shot down a EQ-170 drone, or worse, hacked into its navigation system and landed it, Obama has decided to double down, and stick the other foot in his mouth. As ABC reports in connection with Obama's handling of this embarrassing predicament, ""We've asked for it back. We'll see how the Iranians respond," Obama said at a news conference. Obama said he wouldn't comment further "on intelligence matters that are classified." Great, the only problem is Iran will never return it, as they have already indicated, for the simple reason that it has already been reverse engineered 5 ways from Sunday somewhere deep in the bowels of one of China's unpopulated cities, which just doubles as a very populated military intelligence base. The only good news is that within 6-9 months every American will be able to buy a personal stealth drone for a new low, low price at their friendly neighborhood Wal-Mart. Our only concern is whether FoxConn will be able to handle the supply of both iPads and straight for re-export drones: it would be ironic if this massive military embarrassment ends up as being a catalyst to short Apple.
A senior Iranian military commander, however, said on Iranian television Sunday that not only would Iran not turn over the drone, but warned of a "bigger response" to the "hostile act" of crossing into Iranian airspace.
"No one returns the symbol of aggression to the party that sought secret and vital intelligence related to the national security of a country," Iranian Islamic Revolution Guards Corps [IRGC] Lt. Commander Gen. Hossein Salami said, according to Iran's Fars News Agency.
U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said told reporters today that "given Iran's behavior to date, we do not expect them to comply" with Obama's request. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta also said he didn't expect Iran to hand over the drone, but told reporters, "I think it's important to make that request."
Several Iranian state-run media reports claim the country plans to "reverse engineer" the RQ-170 Sentinel and "will replicate the captured U.S.-built stealth aircraft in the future." In another report featured on Iranian television, an Iranian lawmaker claimed the country's experts were almost finished extracting data from the drone and would be using some of it to file a lawsuit against the U.S. for its "invasion," according to a report by The Associated Press.
"Military experts are well aware how precious the technological information of this drone is," IRGC Aerospace Forces Brig. Gen. Amir Ali Hajizadeh said last week according to local reports. "It can play a key role in Iran's intelligence interactions with the U.S. rivals."
On the reason of the "interception"
According to U.S. officials, the drone was on a classified surveillance
mission for the CIA in western Afghanistan when operators lost control due to a malfunction. From there, the drone glided into Iranian airspace before crashing.
The Iranian military initially claimed it had "shot down" the drone, but later said it was able to bring it down with relatively little damage through an electronic attack. Pentagon spokesperson Capt. John Kirby told reporters last week there was no indication the drone was brought down by "hostile activity of any kind."
As for the top secret drone itself...
The Sentinel, an unarmed long-range surveillance drone known as The Beast of Kandahar, was such a closely held secret that the U.S. Air Force did not even acknowledge its existence until late 2009.
Panetta said it was unclear what technological value the drone could still have, depending on its condition.
Here's a guess: the non-technological value may be low but the barter value is enough to where Iran will leverage it to get anything and everything from the Chinese, to whom the technological value will be quite enough.
And as a reminder, here is the Iranian video of the captured drone:
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How about poor policy and an E-4 playing a video game poorly?
It's a CIA bird, not our Military's.
Fair enough, an E-4 probably was no where near the joy stick.
Not to mention the fact that the Joint Chiefs of Staff now have a 'perfect' case to insist upon further research, investment & funding for the NEW & IMPROVED Drone technology...I mean if the Chinese & the Iranians have reverse engineered this version of the technology it is in America's best interest to forge ahead in order to ensure her safety...Just wish the testing for such a technology could be carried out on Dick Cheney...perhaps we can disguise the drone & Cheney could take it hunting...
That's exactly it. We need to spend $200B or so to get a new fancy drone that an E-4 can land in Iran in 2021.
AND, true "Americans" will support this endeavor by allowing drones to be "tested" over US airspace...
Hm, playing conspiracy theory... One could also say the drone was purposely placed because the US knows that *insert country* knows how to hack the drone and take it down and this is an effort to probe the true capabilities of the "enemy". One could go further and say that there were purposeful design flaws that would allow the US to access any copies in the future.
Me thinks this looks way too easy... The Iranians got something that is highly classified, something Iranians know the Americans have, and somehow the Americans are so stupid they let one fly right into Iran.... All with the Iranians getting the "upperhand"
I think this drone may be a Honey Trap, Stuxnet on Steroids
Me thinks this looks way too easy...
The Art of War
By Sun Tzu (Translated by Lionel Giles)
II. The Attack by Fire, Sun Tzu said:
12. Having doomed spies, doing certain things openly for purposes of deception, and allowing our spies to know of them and report them to the enemy.
Not that "The Art of War" is gospel, but with Gore's internet, these techniques are not exactly subtle. Personally, as someone living in the US, I'm more concerned with the "terrorists" on the other end of the joysticks running these suckers over North Dakota than I am over Iran.
But that's just me.
here, i fixed it:
Obama Wants His Drone, Up His Backside!Come on you guys. We shut down their reactor, they have a mysterious explosion, a drone lands at the internatioanal airport.
Would you, being Iran, plug anything into that drone that could possibly ever spew bugs into your cyberspace? How about when they opened it to look inside, and the Bluetooth from hell enters everything within 5,000 feet that had a memory?
They opened it, they touched it, and you know they penetrated it. Dumb-asses.
Many stupids here talking like President Obama is the one who is having controls of the drone that the Iranians are now having.
Instead of spending billions spying on the American people, maybe the feds should spend a few million getting some human intel resources on the ground in Tehran.
Then we would know all about the location of this UAV and blow it to smithereens.
It's not impossible that the Russians or Chinese intercept all this radio traffic and decoded the controls of the drone. The Chinese even supply many components to defense contractors, so their chips could be built in to it.
Bush should have bombed the spy plane the Chinese captured, and Obama should destroy this one. Two consecutive presidents let the enemy keep our secret gear.
Hm.
What part of the founding fathers (US Constitution) mentioning of not interfering in the affairs of other nations do you not understand?
I'd say that has been moot for a hundred years or so. I'm not in favor of any wars of the last century, much less the middle eastern ones. But interfere we do.
Sorry, "just following orders" isn't an allowable excuse.
"Bush should have bombed the spy plane the Chinese captured"
So, there's no other way to read this than your clamoring to bomb someone.
You fail libertarianism 101.
Not some one, some thing. Expensive, secret technology in the hands of people who plot war with America. I despise the attack drones, they are cowardly by their nature. That said, I'm still a veteran who sees things through a military lens.
The spy plane on that island was out in the open on an access ramp. It could have been blasted without killing anyone. They knew in real time when the drone was 'taken' and failed to destroy it. They effed up.
Yup...our real enemies are Iran, Iraq etc....not the bankers tearing our country to pieces before our very eyes. How stupid are you?
This is a military subject regarding Iran and a drone. I was commenting regarding the situation and the very real threat of war we are facing. In that war the Iranians will be what the military refer to as 'the enemy'. How wise and discerning are you?
this is not a military subject yet but the psycho defense department of the US would like to dig up a few sites in Iran like they did in Iraq mostly because they can not find what they are looking for. I am talking Archeological dig looking for very old sites. Sumerian or older. so Huckleberry it is not a war necessarily it is a need to quardon off certain areas in that region to dig it up with no one looking. Remember that the vampire squid does have an agenda and it is not about the money.
Pretty stupid.
U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said told reporters today that "given Iran's behavior to date, we do not expect them to comply" with Obama's request. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta also said he didn't expect Iran to hand over the drone, but told reporters, "I think it's important to make that request."
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And the US's behavior? Multiple wars. Continued threats against damn near everybody. Continuing to bomb civilians with these drones. Buzzing the Iranians with them. And it's IRAN's behavior that's out of line?
Where are all the right-wingers and their bashing of Hillary when it's needed? All scurried back into their war-bunkers so they can PLAY war.
Right on....this is so insane I can't believe it. How dumbed down have we become????
If I were Iran, I'd make friends with China develope a nuke post haste. The US isn't going to get friendlier.
The right wingers support this approach.
Where's the cynical partisan outrage of the libtards? You remember, General Betrayus, Bush/Cheney are war criminals, etc. No protests, no interruptions of congressional hearings, no partisan BS from Obamma, Chuck Da Schmuck, Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi.
Who is "you" that you are referring to?
P.S. I've been as rock-solid in my positions as has been Ron Paul.
Damn yo... stop trying to play the victim. Just go in guns a-blazin and take it back... or nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
Alternatively, if they ever plug in the drone, Stuxnet pt 2 probably just got deployed into Iranian scientist computers.
The Iranians should totally pimp the thing out. Lights on the undercarriage, bad ass rims, toilet seat on the tail
then return it.
They should fly it over Israel until it runs out of fuel... trailing a sign that reads "Got Fuel?"
If it was my more-or-less stealth drone, I would have further camouflaged it by painting on the side:
Seventy-Two Virgin Air
the drone looks like it was made by a high school nerd, in his garage, for his science fair project. i'm not impressed
Apparently your awareness is centered around high-school thinking? Looks aren't important.
Anyway, maybe you should ask for your money back. (pull-backs from defense contractors, hell, we can only wish)
And I want to have my own bailout and a million dollars, I have asked the chairman for the return of my lost capital.
While I am waiting for the check, I have decided to double down and ask my girlfried to go on a joint date with my wife and me.
Let's get a grip here, why I don't know, but for the moment: why would Obama and Panetta and Hillary or Anyone make polite requests of Anyone Else they were spying on, let alone Iran, to please hand back the spy toy?
This is so transparently idiotic that it is for real. They asked in order to make Anyone believe it was all a bit of an electrical glitch. Just one of those things. They are that stupidly idiotic as to pose as innocents. There is no other conclusion and they do not appear in the least aware of their idiocy, or even the optics of their idiocy.
Given every other idiocy these people are perpetrating in the Mideast, at some point we must take the clues at face value - these are truly breathtaking idiots. Where is Biden, speaking of a really aggressive idiot?
This is what passes for leadership in the USA - is it any wonder that everyone on this site has become a raging alcoholic and not more than 4 in 100 is without a syringe full of cyanide, two repeater rifles, an impending divorce and will jump the first boat upriver to join Kurtz if but a moment of sobriety intervenes??
They asked nicely for the drone's return. If Iran refuses, O has license to commence kinetic action on the eve of Christmas.
Judge:
If you're running for office, let me know. I'll move to wherever you're at just to vote and hopefully live under your jurisdiction.
Unitl then, just another box of merlot.
sincerely.
might i suggest a dose of DMT instead of cyanide? we don't have to care one way or anther the real problem is the fact that the Swiss request was laughed off by the Iranian government and the USA has lost a grip on more than just its banking system or a little drone or the satellites that melted the WTC.... what ever the game was some one has tipped the board and those who used to think them selves supreme are all acting a bit startled because they are not sure what the hell happened. It is a nice boomerang no? that little yellow drone
So the Iranians kidnapped our drone? What is with the Iranians?
They seem to have an obsession about kidnapping anything American.
All the Shah's Men
-Stephen Kinzer
http://www.amazon.com/All-Shahs-Men-American-Middle/dp/0471265179
so when they dont return it what does obobo do...? call the NAACP...blame it on bush.....what a total fuc.king loser we have for a pres. just STFU AND LET IT PASS....all bluff and no balls.
No, a LOSER would be someone who has to have a leader.
That said, WTF would YOU do? I want to grade you on YOUR performance. After all, I suspect that YOU vote, I want to know if you have enough brain capacity to make the right decision.
And, btw, I don't fucking like Obama either (anyone following me knows that I detest ALL govts), but spouting out childish shit without offering any reason, other than perhaps to look like "one of the boys," well, not impressed.
you idiot.... this was forgotten news.
when he opened his mouth, he re-opened the incident....AND...he is demanding something be done or else.....now the dumb fuc.k has to actually do something or look like curious georges asshole.
this pres has to be the most inexperienced politician we have ever elected....he makes sarah palin look like a genius.
This story reminded me of an earlier story on ZH about a persistent computer virus at one of the drone command and control centers in Nevada. Russians probably figured out a way to override the controls of these drones via that attack. Month later we get a story on the Iranians landing a drone inside Iran with a little help from the Russians.
Next thing you know they'll hack one of the armed drones to fire upon U.S. asetts.
From 2009:
Insurgents Hack U.S. Drones $26 Software Is Used to Breach Key Weapons in Iraq; Iranian Backing Suspectedhttp://online.wsj.com/article/SB126102247889095011.html
Why is the landing gear completely covered up in the video? Looks fishy.
the 'greys' were hiding underneath from a previous photo shoot - phone home
+1000
They used a fish-eye lens.
Iran: "Start sending over more we're in the drone collection mode."
This headline is loaded! " Hard Core"<. Tyler was too light on the , " Negro Spider- Man".
Thank GOD " Charlotte, wasn't spinning webs.
Hard to believe how stupid the military hardware designers are. First they were transmitting unencrypted from drones, now when one is captured it has no self-destruct button.
Military intelligence at it's best.
if you hack it you hack its life suport as well making it unable to pull the pin on its grenade.... system interrupt... it took a hard drop on its left wing, look at the footage it is dented. they made the thing faint full stop....
Then they should have followed Cheney's advice and fucking detonated the thing in any way possible instead that crazy desert rat Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has a hold of it.
A Hellfire missile would have worked wonders. Barry was given three options...he declined them all.
As Hillary! said, its 3 A.M...and Barry overslept.
Perhaps Iran will send the drone back with a nuclear warhead attached.
Obama is a complete idiot and an embarassment to the USA. Sad, but true.
Iran does not want to have a Global Thermal Nuclear War you idiots. We all know how that ends. Obama is an executive to a corrupt and bankrupt corporate entity that is unaware it is in cardiac arrest.
General Atomics and Raytheon Announces Comprehenssive Enemy Drone Surveillance and Intercept System That Will Protect Every Square Mile Of The US. The New Drone Defense System Code Named "Botafogo" is a mashup between the Patriot Missile Defense System
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hrZ4d1KxGY
and the surveillance and strike capability of the most high tech drones in existence. The ACLU has launched an investigation into what the deployment of this system would actually mean to the average US citizen. Initial investigation reveals that the ability for this system to spy on the daily activities of the average US citizen and the ability to monitor all communications whether they be via telephone, two-way radio, smoke signals or via http://myfreecams.com, The ACLU has determined the average US citizen will have absolutely no privacy as the entire world has officially been deemed a battlefield via the 2012 NDAA and is subject to Botafogo surveillance and stikes to neutralize perceived threats to national security, including every facebook and twitter user who has expressed any support for the Occupy Wall Street movement. Raytheon and General Atomics have refused to comment but have joined forces to sponsor a video game competition with promises to employ video game playing experts to protect The Homeland.
AH, but mother nature prevails in the end.
http://www.birdstrike.org/events/signif.htm
If you feel you are getting too warm and the weather does not coincide get out of your car and take your shoes off. not a joke.
so you're a personal friend of leo or you are him?
what made you think?
it sounds like you are amused by the situation.
Asking, in public, to return a stealth drone.
I would say unbeleviable but...
the US asked the Swiss to ask first but the Iranian's just said. 'BAAAAAHHHAAAAAHHH ' ???? ???? ??? ???? ?? ????? ????
the revenge of the, 'stuxnet' caught in a virtual wormhole
audacity isn't a strong enough word.
wonder when the next passenger liner gets taken out by one of these expert systems
Well, the US has already done that to Iran. And, the US military personnel who were engaged in the "accident" received awards to boot!
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig9/fayazmanesh1.html
Obama is hiding the real reason why he wants the drone back:
They're related.
This is going to open up old russian wounds. While he's at it why doesn't he ask for the downed U2 spy planes.
Perhaps our drone command and control contained a mole.
Why is Brian Wilson inspecting the drone?
umm, forget all the 'trojan horses' etc. The US government supplied weapons and assisted the drug cartels in laundering money. No 'fake' or 'inoperable' guns, no 'fake' money was laundered. It was all real.
This recovery of the drone is just adding more fuel to the 'bomb iran' fire.
Can I have my, " foreskin back" ? As I shudder.
I can't tell what is important any more. I think I shall buy some new furniture and make some investments in art or something. Or maybe take a vacation in Iran before NATO wreck it as they have done Libya.
More proof obama doesn't know a damn thing how the world works. Hey Obama what are you gonna say when they make fun of your bitch ass response? He won't say a damn thing because he's a gutless coward and doesn't have a clue what it means to be a man. Look at the jeans he wears.
Clinton Obama have made a polite request to Iran to send back the US faulty toys .. this pair of idiots just add total clumsiness to the US army failure.
What a shame , what a pitiful team of bums , and you think they are able to drive the government ? To repair the economy ? To hold the USA rank and standing
the world ? AHAHAHAHAH. ZOB_AMA ! here is your real nickname, you 're a tennager who plays around looking to be seen as a mensch , and when push comes to shove
you ask politely for the return of your lost toy . Bye bye Zob-ama get back into your first grade classroom ....give us a break get out you and the fatty slob girl who thinks she is so smart.
Ha,ha meine happy ..
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head or gut 2012, oh yessss......
Does anybody really think this wasn't just a prize awarded to his brothers by our beloved CIC in contemplation of his losing his position after the next election? gotta make hay while the sun shines.
What a dork. Obama must be the biggest disappointment in the history of presidents.
Once the elite and people in Washington start using drones on their own people in the US it's over. Eventually the 99% prople will get pissed get those involved.
this is something. They god reason to attack everyone now, its a new tactic. Send gifts to enemies and then invade them to take your gift back with few million barrels. This is too much...
two in a day....... the fraudsters want their 'money' back and the potus want his drone!!!! toooo much....
Dont we have enough drones in the white house already.
"Yea sure" says Iran, "You can pick it up from our Chinese office"...
"Whats its opened? It was like that when we got here"
Expect a small scale scale model to be available for $999 at ToysRus next chrismass
I just love this little rant mostly because it is just close enough to the truth to hurt like a bikini wax. nice one Tyler Durden.
Return the Holy Hand Grenade and be done with it, damn it. There's nothing new here, We are way behind in the Straw Dog and Red Herring Factory. Obama been DC needs to get some new mojo working.
If ya want your Frisbee back, be careful who's yard it lands in.
Read the headline and this just seemed to say it all:
My Boomerang Won't Come Back
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=omJGbkqXfxE
I can hear the discussion in the Penteeeegon
Kehuck, gosh golly gee them there urrraaannniiuns best be getting that drooon back here pronto.
Billy Bob prepare for a strick.
After having visited your jolly fair totalitarian communist country last month and having the pleasure of being asked for "Ze papers" so many times I couldn't count my friends and we decided that - yup - you guys are next evil empire. Your military state is so open now compared to history that they don;t even hide their plans anymore cause your populace could give a shit.
The similarities to 1930's Germany are scary and it is clear to anyone visiting your country that the elites have turned your country into one scary fucking place.
Prepare accordingly - we in the world are
Several days after being humiliated by Iran which either shot down a EQ-170 drone, or worse, hacked into its navigation system and landed it...
Iran hacks US military technology, the Chinese pop a Sub up between the US fleet out on manouvres. 'Fuck Me' i'm worried how many Achillies heels the US military has we don't know about?!!!
Afterall it may be good at the overkill of pounding pheasent farmers in shock-and-awe (high tonnage zero fuking IQ) but as Veitnam, Iraq and Afghan shows you can win a battle but even the biggest thug on the planet still gets nipped to death and leaves with its tails between it legs.. losers x3
The Yank Thug Machine has had the global stage so long unapposed (no competition to improve the breed). One wonders just how good they are up against tougher opposition (China, Russia et al) when their big dumb expensive military morons keep losing to smarter sharper 3rd world poppy farmers
Obama has decided to double down, and stick the other foot in his mouth. As ABC reports ..Obama's handling of this embarrassing predicament, ""We've asked for it back. We'll see how the Iranians respond.".
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Was wondering when those Drones come to retail market will Walmart carry the Full-Auto military grade version or the civilian Semi-Auto grade?
you can thank Bill Clinton as it was his wheeling and dealing for chicom cash in his commerce department that provided the top secret Loral Space and Technology expertise to the Chicoms who have since shared with all their buddies, that allowed a take over of the communications with the drone. Gee thanks Bill, you always were kind of a drone yourself.
Obama wants his drone back.
I want Obama to resign.
I want our country back.
There is a direct relationship between the two, but yeah, I agree.
1) where is the auto destruct on these things. same with stealth helicopters. Huh
2) if I don't get my drone back you can't play
Why can't I get rid of that feeling
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/05-12-2011/119846-Nuclear_war_on_the_horizon-0/
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/05-12-2011/119836-next_war_iran-0/
You forgot this one
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/07-12-2011/119878-war_zone_c...
well this is a really good reason for not using chinese circuity, since the US doesn't do that design and manufacturing anymore. Not sure this one was tested well before being put in service huh?
Now, if you don't give it back we are really gonna be mad at you Iranians, ok? I'll show you at my next speech, I mean it, I really do.....:-p
Why don't they just tell Iran it was a hiker, and it got lost near the Iraq border?