Obama's Attempt To Use #OWS As A Diversionary Smoke Screen Fails: 56% Believe Washington To Blame For Crisis And Recession

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Mon, 10/17/2011 - 15:22 | 1782486 Clueless Economist
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WTF??? Only 56%????

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 15:33 | 1782525 ratso
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There's a lot more to Washingto than Obama

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 15:57 | 1782547 ZerOhead
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You're right... so many free attractions... clean public washrooms... and the weather during winter is much much nicer!

Occupy Washington

Occupy Congress

Occupy the Fed Mothership



(2014 will mark the official bicentennial and possible re-enactment of it burning down to the ground... funded by the Iranians no doubt... )

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 15:58 | 1782632 TrafficNotHere
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Wall Street is the symptom of the cancer that is DC.

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 16:05 | 1782663 Fox-Scully
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Lets include the media that has to be the best that money can buy!

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 16:08 | 1782674 Ahmeexnal
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56% is about correct.
The other 44% are on Ogolfer's foodstamps. That 44% are the ones who blame the mexicans and other minorities.

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 16:38 | 1782804 Surly Bear
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OWS is Van Jones is Obama.

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 16:46 | 1782811 Dental Floss Tycoon
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I loved this Ratigan rant putting the blame where it belongs. . . . A bought congress.




Mon, 10/17/2011 - 17:09 | 1782950 lincolnsteffens
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Thanks for the link. I've watched Ratigan sporadically and think he tries his best but I missed this one. I probably didn't see it because I can't stand to watch the financial TV stations or for that matter all commercial TV. It is too bad that Link TV adds melodramatic background music to their stuff because it is a real turn off for me.

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 15:38 | 1782548 X.inf.capt
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yeah, like



Mon, 10/17/2011 - 15:40 | 1782553 swamp
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Are you making excuses for the dick-tator?

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 15:44 | 1782578 Sudden Debt
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Sobers you up knowingthat half the population totally doesn't have a clue and doesn't care less he?

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 15:48 | 1782590 Freddie
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Sadly OWS is pretty much ACORN 2.

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 15:57 | 1782628 fuu
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I am saddened that only 33% know who the true criminals are.

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 18:17 | 1783228 midtowng
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Washington is bought and sold by Wall Street.

Thus Washington doesn't do anything that at least some part of Wall Street doesn't want done.

That 56% think Washington is more responsible for the mess shows that Fox News propoganda is still winning.

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 15:24 | 1782490 devo
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Most people believe they are in bed with one another, and thus both are to blame.


Mon, 10/17/2011 - 15:37 | 1782538 Panafrican Funk...
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Incomplete logic to blame one but not the other.  It's the ultimate circle jerk.

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 15:47 | 1782588 X.inf.capt
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Mr. president...

how much money did you take from the SQUID?

thank you,

a vet...

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 15:52 | 1782609 Freddie
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Obama has looted the Treasury and OWS is silent.  It is a lot of gimmie gimmie and they are silent how Goldman, hedge funds, Dimo et al were Obama's biggest contributors.

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 19:06 | 1783404 Spastica Rex
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You are not listening.

Or you are full of shit.

Or you are obfuscating.

Believe you want to belive and go back to your TV.

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 18:25 | 1783258 nmewn
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Bravo Tyler;

"That said, we have long found it surprising that popular anger is focused on this particular group of individuals, instead of targeting the just as, if not far more, culpable for the current economic collapse enabling focal point known as Washington D.C."

The bailouts didn't fall from the sky.

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 22:55 | 1783983 -Michelle-
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You don't blame children for eating too much candy.  Children are by nature greedy, selfish, and lacking in judgement.  You blame the parents who allow the children unfettered access to the candy, who offer sweets to buy love, obedience, and a few minutes of quiet.

Wall Street and DC are just one big dysfunctional family.

Tue, 10/18/2011 - 05:48 | 1784370 nmewn
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"Children are by nature greedy, selfish, and lacking in judgement. You blame the parents who allow the children unfettered access to the candy, who offer sweets to buy love, obedience, and a few minutes of quiet."

This has been my point since day one Michelle.

The parent in this dysfunctional family is DC.

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 15:24 | 1782491 surf0766
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give it time. The sheep have not fully figure out OWS is being run by marxists.

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 15:26 | 1782493 devo
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That is like saying the Tea Party is run by fascists.

Okay, Fox Mulder.

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 15:42 | 1782564 Conrad Murray
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Just as the Tea Party was co-opted by Statists(give it whatever particular label you like), so has the OWS movement.

If you are a Democrat, you are part of the problem. If you are a Republican, you are part of the problem.

End the State. End the Fed.

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 15:52 | 1782608 devo
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Well, I am neither. I believe in logic and moderation. The Native Americans ran this country best.

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 15:55 | 1782619 Freddie
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No if you are a dumb f*ck who watches TV or supports Hollywood then you enable these f**kers.  Some of the GOP like that f**k Newt pretend to be with the Tea Party but it has not been co-opted.

OWN has always been ACORN 2/Ayres/Soros/etc.  Much of OWS is you people wanting more free stuff from govt.

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 16:07 | 1782675 Dr. Richard Head
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Actually this was organized back in March of this year by Anon and a good friend of the Max Keiser show.  No ACORN connections there.  This is a rebellion.  http://maxkeiser.com/2011/03/13/we-are-a-decentralized-non-violent-resistance-movement-which-seeks-to-restore-the-rule-of-law-and-fight-back-against-the-organized-criminal-class/


The Anonymous manifesto:
  • We are a decentralized non-violent resistance movement, which seeks to restore the rule of law and fight back against the organized criminal class.
  • One-tenth of one percent of the population has consolidated wealth in unprecedented fashion and launched an all-out economic war against 99.9% of the population.
  • We are not affiliated with either wing of the two-party oligarchy. We seek an end to the corrupted two-party system by ending the campaign finance and lobbying racket.
  • Above all, we aim to break up the global banking cartel centered at the Federal Reserve, International Monetary Fund, Bank of International Settlement and World Bank.
  • We demand that the primary dealers within the Federal Reserve banking system be broken up and held accountable for rigging markets and destroying the global economy, effective immediately.
  • As a first sign of good faith we demand Ben Bernanke step down as Federal Reserve chairman.
  • Until our demands are met and a rule of law is restored, we will engage in a relentless campaign of non-violent, peaceful, civil disobedience.
  • In our next communication we will announce Operation Empire State Rebellion.
Mon, 10/17/2011 - 17:06 | 1782883 Dental Floss Tycoon
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Getting a bunch of angry people together to demonstrate is easy.   Not being co-opted by skillful people that can command mass media is hard.

I got a chill when I heard one of the OWS people describing their open decision making meetings as a soviet system.  "The fairest system of government every devised," he said.



Mon, 10/17/2011 - 18:16 | 1783195 Use of Weapons
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Anon99.org [http://ampedstatus.org/network/groups/a99/forum/] / #OccupyWallStreet has never been an 'Anonymous movement' - it flirted with them, and got some intel / practical guides to not getting co-opted / van'd but it was never 'Anonymous'. The levels of cyber/real life cluelessness over basic security, infiltration and co-option, not to mention actual street tactics was massive. Worse than kids using LOIC, there were children getting involved in shit they had no clue about. --> Look up that nice female student, 21, getting done now for 10-15 for using LOIC. Your system is sick and run by wankers.

There was some fairly hard core infighting over the direction to take with the Anon99 movement - either burn, ignore or tacitly support. Tacitly support won, but there was a lot of fall out. #Antisec and #LulzSec were responses to the 'hippy / moralfag' support, fyi. For the record, some people took it upon themselves to insulate the more naive parties involved from getting themselves shot or black listed - and yes, I was one of those #moralfags. Current twitter / Doxing support is being made available for many reasons - the lulz being one of them. [OH HAI! URE MOBILE IS RINGING MR RUN THE WORLD]


Grass roots rebellion - it doesn't follow neat narratives that you like. Oh, and the above is NOT an Anonymous manifesto, it is something else. Oh, and Max has the FSB protecting his ass, so I wouldn't lend too much credence to his weight.



/Seabloop - lulz.


"Nothing has gone quite right for a month now" - 'random' on a plane - guess what? It hasn't gone right because you're not getting the whole game plan.

Hamlet: I am but mad north-north-west: when the wind is southerly I know a hawk from a handsaw.

Rest, rest, perturbed spirit! So, gentlemen,
With all my love I do commend me to you:
And what so poor a man as Hamlet is
May do, to express his love and friending to you,
God willing, shall not lack. Let us go in together;
And still your fingers on your lips, I pray.
The time is out of joint: O cursed spite,
That ever I was born to set it right!
Nay, come, let's go together.



Mon, 10/17/2011 - 21:41 | 1783800 Bring the Gold
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Nice to see Nmewen and a whole new rash of Neo-Con Republican facist apologists out in DROVES to place the blame squarely on ONLY the Democrats, whilst defending the likes of Bush, Cheney and Wall Street. Come on folks this is about BOTH parties, the FED, Central Bankers and oligarchs (Putin, Berlusconi, Merkel, Sarkozy, the new tool in Downing street etc. etc.) WORLDWIDE. To try and pin the blame on JUST the Democrats means you are in full support of all the rest of the bullshit that has occured in the past 11 years such as the complete annihilationof the bill of rights, the criminal melt down of 2008 the REPUBLICAN whitehouse, FED appointee and treasury created TARP bill etc. etc. The Democrats are DEFINITELY to blame, but trying to make OWS into some Marxist, black power, ACORN secret handshake democrat agenda is just exactly what the oligarchs want, to co-opt OWS the way they did with the Tea party being hijacked by the Repubs.

Both parties are beholden to the FED, the banks and Wallsteet and by extension the international oligrachacal families that own the same. Wake up and smell the motherfucking coffee. It's far too late in the game to think there is some secret army of militant black muslims causing the problem with anyone with a lick of sense and historical grounding knows thats just crazy talk. Pay attention and quit supporting EITHER the Dems or Repubs.

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 21:55 | 1783823 nmewn
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Fight bitchez!!!

"Nice to see Nmewen and a whole new rash of Neo-Con Republican facist apologists out in DROVES to place the blame squarely on ONLY the Democrats, whilst defending the likes of Bush, Cheney and Wall Street."

1) Show me where I have defended Bush, Cheney or Wall Street.

2) Define fascism. Would it be like Solyndra, Telsa & Sunpower?...or more like ObamaCare popping health insurance company stock prices so they could sell to mutual funds?

Your ass is hangin out here...make it good ;-)

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 22:24 | 1783886 Bring the Gold
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You defended Cheney's waterboarding when his book came out.


Any long time readers know exactly who you are and what you support. Fascism would be what I routinely see you support, militarized racist mergers between state and corporations. Yes, I get you don't like it when the fascists are Democrats, only when they are Republican.

Please, dump the V for Vendetta avatar. It's a disservice to that excellent film. If you were V, you would halfway through the movie take off the mask to reveal you were a high ranked "finger" counter-revolutionary. Guys like you were Rah Rah Rahing the Bush/Cheney warmachine and associated corruption for 8 full years and suddenly when Obushma gets in you pretend to be some kind of against the grain rebels. Give me a fucking break. Again, long time readers of this site know exactly who you are and that I am right.

P.S. Daniel Pearl was killed for getting too close to the ISI and by extension the perpetrators of 9/11. 


Mon, 10/17/2011 - 22:46 | 1783951 nmewn
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1) Give me the quote where I defended Bush, Cheney and Wall Street...you can put it here_________

2) Define fascism.

It can't be that hard...the link you provided was of Chumbadoofus calling me a faggot...very "progressive". Define fascism.

Answer 1 & 2 or lay down.

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 17:56 | 1783151 Use of Weapons
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Did you miss that bit where the Koch brothers funded most of the tea party?

Not. Really. Statists. Or. Marxists.



The grasp of politics in this room is evidently as real as Commando. Still, as long as you're racking up the bodies, I don't care.

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 20:47 | 1783682 Clueless Economist
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What in hell are you talking about???????   Matrix whacked 91 Val Verdian soldiers to rescue his daughter...FACT

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 21:27 | 1783770 Use of Weapons
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Child, GTFO before you embarrass yourself.



Mon, 10/17/2011 - 15:58 | 1782611 X.inf.capt
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Excuse me,

mr, surf...

i went to check out a general assembly...

i didnt see any marxist, or for that matter any tatooed faced, dread locked, flea ridden, stinky people, either....

saw a lotta vets, ex middle classed citizens, and clean cut students...

you guys should really go and listen to them....its not about redistribution of wealth....

its about corruption, and freedom, and about holding the upper crust to same standard as everyone else.....

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 16:02 | 1782653 surf0766
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I said it was being run by marxists , not that everyone attending was marxist.

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 16:11 | 1782696 X.inf.capt
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i stand corrected, sir

uh, by the way, 

which marxist?


look forward to hearing from you....

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 16:24 | 1782747 X.inf.capt
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it said they were marching,

didnt say anything about them being OWS leaders...quite the contrary...

they showed up. period

so, again, who are these marxists 'leaders'?

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 16:50 | 1782818 X.inf.capt
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alittle better...

i looked her up on wikipedia, doesnt say anything about her being a marxist....

shes sounds anti- corruption....and anti NWO... and anti big banker.....

and anti exploitation

again, since i like to learn, where are the MARXISTS LEADERS......?

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 17:21 | 1783007 X.inf.capt
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FYI, surf...

there are no leaders...

these OWS protestors are using a tactic called...

leaderless resistance..... an IDEA motivated cause...

we studied this in military science....its a tough nut to crack

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 18:28 | 1783267 Use of Weapons
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The time will come when Deleuze is required reading at the School of the Americas.


At which point, the cackling laughs from beyond the veil will be too large to ignore.



Mon, 10/17/2011 - 20:52 | 1783695 surf0766
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Where is my bullshit flag.




Just like Egypt too I bet.. Yea mmmmmmmmmmmk...

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 21:05 | 1783731 X.inf.capt
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o.k. surf....

read the article...

still didnt see anything about marxist leaders....

from what i see, i see alot of groups trying to steer this thing...

private groups or 'others'.....

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 21:09 | 1783739 surf0766
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If you don't see it then please.... continue being one of the sheep. Good luck.

Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!