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Odds Of Avoiding Recession: One In Thirty

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We have seen a number of leading indicators recently (for example, we were first to note the FedEx implications for GDP) that point to a rapidly rising probability of recession. Today, via Bloomberg Brief, is a look inside the Philly Fed state economic indexes. To be specific, we look at the six-month ahead outlook for each state. Only once in the last 30 years did 20 states possess a negative outlook and the overall economy avoid recession.

 

 

Chart: Bloomberg

 

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Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:02 | 2814487 mrktwtch2
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look out for that bananna peel!!..lol

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:06 | 2814494 GetZeeGold
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Dammit.....I told him not to step on it.

 

There's another regulation that needs to be written.

 

You can't have a 32oz soda.....but you can have two 16oz ones. If you buy three we'll throw in a bottle of Jack.

 

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:10 | 2814534 Dr. No
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Are you allowed to sell empty 32 oz containers?  Hey business idea:  Open a kiosk in Timesquare selling 32 oz containters for any dual wielding 16 oz drinkers.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:12 | 2814545 GetZeeGold
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It's fine if it's paper.......sell a plastic one and it's off to jail for you.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:33 | 2814654 Element
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Relax, QE3 will fix it.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:38 | 2814676 GetZeeGold
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QE3 won't do much....but the infinity we're cleared for has got to work eventually.

 

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 10:13 | 2814817 Yes We Can. But...
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Recession?  What recession.  I know there will be no recession, because I have in front of me today's newspaper, put out by the sorry statists at the Washington Post.  Front page article entitled "Thriving Through The Tough Times - Even After Recession Took Its Toll, Seven Counties in the Washington Region Rank Among Nation's Most Affluent"

http://thewashingtonpost.newspaperdirect.com/epaper/viewer.aspx

First sentence: The Washington region has emerged from the recession looking even more affluent compared with the rest of the country....

The statists would like for you to believe that:

1) Obama pulled us out of recession

2) All is well

3) A vote for Obama in November is in order.

 

Take that America - we're getting stinking rich here in DC.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:16 | 2814558 Stock Tips Inve...
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The market always goes up, taking a few breaks that occur in corrections. After these corrections, the market resumes its upward path. Regardless of the bad (or good) news, the market has risen enough to justify a pause. Most short-term indicators (stochastic, RSI, etc.) Show overbought condition. The important thing is that these do not break support levels. Until this happens, the market will continue to rise.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 10:25 | 2814873 poor fella
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For my own sanity, I'm throwing in a "/sarc"

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:03 | 2814491 LawsofPhysics
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Never left the recession, WTF?

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:09 | 2814526 GetZeeGold
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Color blind green chutes.

 

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:11 | 2814537 AU5K
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It used to be recessions were like burning a forest - came back stronger and healthier.  Now politically connected companies/banks are not allowed to fail, so its like keeping the dead trees around. 

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 11:15 | 2815035 Clowns on Acid
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Correct...and then the BIG fire occurs.....burning physical towns and businesses. Buit  wait...then those "victims" must come to the Fed Gov't for assistance..right?

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:13 | 2814543 RSloane
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Of course we left the recession.  Don't you remember Obama and Biden's celebration of  The Summer of Recovery, complete with party hats? Animal spirits dancing in the streets, gala partying by the Obama administration that pointed to mega success stories like....drumroll...Wal Mart! 2009 is when we left the recession, our dear leader said so. This -new- recession is entirely the fault everyone else but the WH and Congress.

If you got paper, roll 'em and burn.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 10:27 | 2814840 Element
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Pssst ... it was really cash-for-clunkers that finally broke-the-back of the great recession and bought things back to global munificence again.

At least that's what will stand proud within the historical retrospective piece about the visionary Obama Presidency that airs on PBS Newshour in Sept 21st 2048. 

"...The great Barack Obama was so amazingly skilled in the job, that America returned him to office again in 2012, with an enlarged majority, as their ringing endorsement of his sparkling pageant of policy successes.  'More of the Same!', was the deafening catch-cry chanted by the crowd as he attempted to deliver his election-night victory speech. ..."

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 10:53 | 2814977 RSloane
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Ah right, Cash for Clunkers. How could I forget! The only time in the American street theft industry that saw more second and third hand cars being stolen than new models. What a great time that was.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 10:23 | 2814868 LawsofPhysics
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right "Mission accomplished"

ignore the right/left bullshit.  There is ony one party, for the banks and financial houses, by the banks and financial houses.

bloody sheep.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:04 | 2814492 buzzsaw99
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states don't matter, only bank bonuses matter

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:06 | 2814501 MiltonFriedmans...
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Bank bonuses matter most, but stock option grants of all fortune 500 company executives aren't far behind.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:08 | 2814513 LawsofPhysics
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Well, so long as te Fed is buying, yes.  Not so much when everything goes bidless.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:06 | 2814502 Ima anal sphincter
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Numbers......Charts......Flying Pigs......You're the best lover ever.......

I've been lied to so much, I'm actually believing in this stuff.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:08 | 2814505 crusty curmudgeon
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Odds the administration will claim we're in a recession, while we're clearly in a recession, anytime before election day?  Zero.

“An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come.” Victor Hugo

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:52 | 2814677 crusty curmudgeon
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Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:07 | 2814507 robertocarlos
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Like I said, Obama is a lock. What do you need in hard times? A sugar daddy. At least that's the easy way out.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:10 | 2814531 MiltonFriedmans...
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Why is it that trickle down was trickle down but bank bailouts are a *stimulus*?

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:26 | 2814610 RSloane
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"Stimulus" was a midnight pity poke between two lovers - political parties and banks.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:07 | 2814511 Nothing To See Here
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Of course, since elected leaders are more like drunken retards playing in a casino with the chips of other people, they are likely to find that 1/30 are good odds. Explains why they went all in last week.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:08 | 2814516 Jlmadyson
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ECRI has been right on the money. Clearly all the printing, swapping, slashing, sterilizing, repoing, and bullshiting to the moon have delayed the drop off the cliff.

But it will not stop the inevitable.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:08 | 2814517 Vincent Vega
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Economic indexes, leading indicators, blah blah blah...the only indicator that matters is Fuck You Bernanke and his print indicator.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:09 | 2814520 TIMBEEER
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The EU is about to forbid.. nope .. slow down HFT trading, according to Handelsblatt.com. Bid minimum lifetime: 500ms.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:21 | 2814572 crusty curmudgeon
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Ack, ack, ack.  Ack.

Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the boisterous sea of liberty.  Thomas Jefferson

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:09 | 2814521 JPM Hater001
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Hickory dickory dock...

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:13 | 2814546 orangedrinkandchips
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this chick was sucking.....

 

ah.....Andrew Dice Clay.....good shit!!!

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:16 | 2814562 GetZeeGold
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Neil and Bob for President 2012.

 

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:36 | 2814665 JPM Hater001
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You do understand

Dice=Banks in this rhyme.

You my friend are getting dropped off.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:09 | 2814525 Hobbleknee
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So it's one in thirty that the current depression will improve into a mere recession?

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:09 | 2814529 Jason T
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The disintigration will continue and there is no power great enough to stop it.  It's our destiny.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:14 | 2814551 Dr. No
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"I find your lack of faith disturbing."

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:11 | 2814536 john_connor
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Priced In

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:11 | 2814538 Squid Vicious
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bullish!... someone had to say it

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:11 | 2814539 Shizzmoney
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So I have a better chance of hitting red or black on a roulette wheel than a recession happening.

Who wants to borrow some money from the Fed and put the entire thing on black! 

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:17 | 2814568 dwdollar
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So you're telling me there's a chance???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCKOI24k_UY

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:44 | 2814694 Nothing To See Here
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+oo

I knew you were quoting that scene before I clicked the link. Awesome comment!

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:23 | 2814597 AynRandFan
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The Great Recession that Americans never saw may yet be seen.  Can the federal government spend more?  Can the Fed promise more?  We'll see, until then "It's Free, Swipe Yo EBT".

http://youtu.be/luo40WjBKWI

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:33 | 2814645 q99x2
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Imagine would it would look like based on real data.

Entering a deeper part of the depression just when the Bernanke's printer pedal is causing him to limp. This is not good.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:49 | 2814714 babylon15
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We are still in a recession.  If you calculate GDP and CPI the way they used to calculate these things 10 years ago or 20 years ago, they both show that CPI has gone up faster than GDP, and that real GDP growth has been negative since 2006.

 

http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/gross-domestic-product-charts

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 10:38 | 2814918 roadhazard
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 Romney is right, I am a victim of criminal/terrorists like him.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 11:52 | 2815153 andyupnorth
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From the chart:

# of times that 20+ states with neg outlook lead to recession = 4

# of times that 20+ states with neg outlook did not lead to recession = 1

So from the chart, it makes more sense to read that there's a 1-in-5 chance of avoiding a recession.  But common sense and basic math says it's practically inevitable.

Also, the chart is indicating that recessions/depressions are getting more severe, which also agrees with common sense and basic math.

 

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 15:18 | 2815880 Papasmurf
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The only recovery from this point forward is if the fed members, their bankster members, and all of Wall Street changed from their ponzi mode to actually rolling up their sleeves and producing products of value.  The chance approaches zero since the parasite thinks it will survive with business as normal.  Besides, the only skill they have is theft.

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