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Official Swiss Bank Denials Of SNB/Fed Dollar Swap Line Usage Sends Gold To New Record Just $120 Away From $2000

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Fri, 08/19/2011 - 07:14 | 1576308 ArkansasAngie
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Well ... it is Friday

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 07:21 | 1576324 pesamystik
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The WSJ story planted by the Fed (as noted by ZH yesterday) about the Fed's "concerns" about Euro banks is still hitting the Euro markets.

The Fed and the financial cabal are attempting to force the Eurobond issue, and score the coup of centralization they so deeply desire. Merkel is the last line of defence against the evil squid sucking every last bit from humanity. My guess is she is going to fold, just like she has time and again.

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 07:32 | 1576352 markmotive
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If anyone doubts the long-term trend in gold I suggest listening to this interview with the dude from Ertse Group: http://www.planbeconomics.com/2011/08/17/in-gold-we-trust/

However, the short-term picture could be quite volatile.

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 07:15 | 1576309 HitTheFan
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Whilst I like gold long-term, the jump from $1500 to nearly $1900 has been too fast, look out for a very quick sharp correction, just like we saw with silver. Hot money in, hot money back out I suspect.

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 07:21 | 1576327 DogSlime
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Maybe, but this is in response to other investments looking like shit.  Unless some confidence comes back to the markets (HAHAHAHA!), people are going to put their money in gold.

I'm not sure the gold situation is bullish in the normal sense.  If the "hot money" leaves, where can it go right now?

Surely confidence in the markets, sovreigns, banks etc.  needs to be restored before the trend in gold will reverse significantly?

Maybe an Obama speech or some reassurance from Bernanke will do the job?

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 07:38 | 1576371 MFL8240
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Where does a person go if they sell Gold?  Bonds, Stocks, Currencies, Real Estate???...they are all broken and confidence will not be back for years to come.  The US stimulus con game that ran the stock market higher on printed money is just another example of why the Federal Reserve needs to be abolished.  Real Estate, Bonds, Dollars, Stocks, you name it and they are all broken because of the insane policies of Greenspan and Bernanke.

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 07:22 | 1576328 GIANTKILR
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Dude, it's the end of the finacial world as we know it. You can't base your assumptions on past results. There has NEVER been anything like this in history! And stop comparing it to 2008, people!

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 07:31 | 1576346 scratch_and_sniff
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right you are kid. Keep buying...infact if you bought enough now you could become very rich, very quickly, not a moment to waste. (p.s. dont look at the monthly chart of gold, it will only mislead you)

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 07:26 | 1576336 iota
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Be very surprised if we don't. Too much, too quick. Racing through $100 price changes like that screams 'bubble'.

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 07:31 | 1576347 GIANTKILR
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Sometimes I feel like I am talking to a brick wall!

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 07:53 | 1576412 gtb
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Not a brick wall...just idiots.

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 08:15 | 1576492 Badabing
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"Be very surprised if we don't. Too much, too quick. Racing through $100 price changes like that screams 'bubble'."

look at it like 5%

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 07:15 | 1576311 achmachat
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honestly. Who is still in the market with their own capital?
the only thing I've been doing the last 2 months is to sit on the side and watch everything fall apart.

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 07:17 | 1576315 foofoojin
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Did silver just jump a dollar in one min?

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 07:20 | 1576323 jubispupper
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According to Kitco it would appear about right.

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 08:04 | 1576444 mayhem_korner
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I just heard a round of "thuds" on the street outside of the Morgue...probly some pm shorts takin' the ez way out.

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 08:20 | 1576509 Badabing
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A ploy to move day traders out of gold and into silver?

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 10:18 | 1576977 cowdiddly
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With the margin requirements as high as they are in silver, this is not daytraders  or short term speculators driving the price. Throw the stock chart mumbo jumbo away and get some phyzz while there is still some available to buy at any price. This crash is global, They wanted a global economy, but like the euro it all comes down together. Now they don't have enough money on the planet to bail the whole world out without killing all fiat currency. GBP/JPY, USD/EUR..? Totally useless, Its like comparing one steaming pile to another steaming pile and trying to decide which one dies first. Only tangible items are worthy going forward.

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 09:55 | 1576910 DosZap
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The NADS was on yesterday, telling of a SMACKDOWN coming...............what a penis.

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 07:17 | 1576316 alexwest
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hey bruce,

it so #UCKUING BULLISH FOR SWISS FRANK.. one of  biggst swiss bank basically was running out of $$$$

cant wait to buy more franks on leverage 1:1000



Fri, 08/19/2011 - 07:19 | 1576320 jubispupper
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Last weekend I picked up another 70 Gold Eagles and 4000 Silver Eagles to round up my allocation (about 40% of capital in PM -- started doing so in 2006).  I thought I overpaid at 1707 for the gold, and 41 gross for the silver.  Amazing movement.  Any thoughts if it's wise to allocate more money to PM?


Also any thoughts when the time will be right to sell large pieces of muni portfolio (i.e., probably when the 10-year is yielding around 1%? but before everyone freaks out about muni world again ....

Thanks for your thoughts.

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 07:23 | 1576332 alexwest
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if its true, i'd NOT brag too much about buying physical on i-net.. kind of lame...


Fri, 08/19/2011 - 07:29 | 1576342 sudzee
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If estimtes of paper pm' certificates writen against your physical are correct, you sir, could buy a country. Many thx for doing your part to bring the EE down. You are a true patriat.

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 07:47 | 1576402 Snidley Whipsnae
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The only thing the Fed can do at this point to hurt PMs is to jack interest rates above inflation. What is the likelyhood of that happening, since such a move would destroy what is left of the US Economy? My guess is very unlikely.

The other moves available to the metals exchanges are margin hikes. I look for those soon... depending on how much the hikes would hurt the big shorts that are 'doing gods work'... But, this option is not going to slow central banks from accumulating physical PMs, nor for that matter, anyone from accumulating PMs.

Hiking margins to lower the price of PMs is counterproductive... since it does not effect those buying physical and buying it for a new lower price after the hikes...

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 09:19 | 1576699 RockyRacoon
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It's all about opportunity cost at this point.   When the realization that gold is money sinks in the real run on gold will begin.  Folks smarter than the average American have already made the moves -- like Indian and Chinese peasants.

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 09:56 | 1576918 DosZap
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The Indians I Expect, Chinese peasants..................uh,not so much.

When your bested by them, you know your SHEEPLE.

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 11:41 | 1577550 RockyRacoon
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I'll agree, and narrow that China range to the fact that you can walk into many Chinese banks and buy gold.   Try that in the U. S.!  We are indoctrinated not to think about gold -- at all -- period.

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 07:57 | 1576421 Pegasus Muse
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I use the Eric Sprott asset allocation philosophy.  To hell with diversification.  If you have thoroughly researched and believe in an asset class, go for it.  He has 90% of his personal wealth invested in gold bullion, silver bullion, and gold and silver miners.  That seems about right to me.   

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 08:44 | 1576593 snowball777
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Sure you did, Glenn. At Goldline, right? LOL

If you were going to throw down over a quarter mil on physical, why didn't you just buy a handful of kilo and 1k oz bars?

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 10:21 | 1576955 DosZap
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Want an opinon HERE, forfukingetIT.....................

People do not give advice.Other than Buy Gold & Silver Bitchez.

40% (if you started in '06, should have you set.............esp if you just added another 70/4000-IMHO

Ben Davies of Hinde Capital thinks the .Gub, is going to Scr@* us over at $2,100.00.

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 07:19 | 1576321 Freebird
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Who would have thunk it?

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 07:20 | 1576322 legal eagle
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Something has to break

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 07:31 | 1576351 Freebird
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Much will break no

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 07:21 | 1576325 ZeroPower
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One last swift move higher (maybe nice gap open over a weekend close in Sept with a $100+ gap) and we are ready for the downturn to start. A la silver on May 1.

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 07:29 | 1576345 slaughterer
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The suspicion is great that Gold will hit $2000 on Sunday in Asian markets, and then be taken down by 8 successive margin hikes and 1,000s of short contracts next week.  However, it would provide a great entry for what is to come at Jackson Hole.

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 07:31 | 1576348 ZeroPower
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Not hearing anything, but the action literally seconds ago definitely says something is brewing. $1876 to $1851 in a blink, with spreads 2x as large currently (from $0.90 to ~$2)

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 07:56 | 1576420 dollarmite
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What happens when the day comes when everyone is all in and nobody is on margin? 

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 07:26 | 1576337 A Man without Q...
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Having thought further, I wonder if it was done to provide liquidity to a bank which is a collateral counterparty to one of the Swiss banks?  Those cross currency swaps must be hurting...

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 07:45 | 1576394 slaughterer
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My early morning suspicion wasit was done to destroy confidence in the CHF--in a minor, measured way--and allow the currency to correct a little.  

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 07:28 | 1576339 topcallingtroll
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Shit is starting to get crazy again.

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 08:45 | 1576562 Badabing
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$36 drop from this mornings high with no margin hike looks like the big guys hammer.

expect GLD to take a shit and then buy your ass off

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 07:29 | 1576343 Version 7
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Regardless ups and downs, imho when it comes to gold, there's a certain time after which its future can only be parabolic.

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 07:32 | 1576353 scratch_and_sniff
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ha ha, good one.

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 07:37 | 1576368 disabledvet
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Have no fear Inspector Clouseau is on the case as i you tubed earlier.

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 07:40 | 1576375 Imminent Collapse
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Ladies and Gentlemen, we are nearing the abyss.  Please secure all personal property, place your seats in the upright locked position and prepare for a rough landing.

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 07:45 | 1576395 Sudden Debt
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 now I'll never know how it ends...


Fri, 08/19/2011 - 07:50 | 1576388 Sudden Debt
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Oh..... looks like somebody wanted to put his feet up.....






Fri, 08/19/2011 - 07:52 | 1576409 RemiG2010
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What if I am fat and I need 2 seats? Do I still qualify?!


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