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From One Ex-Goldmanite To Another: Nomi Prins Statement On Greg Smith's Resignation

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From Nomi Prins, former Managing Director at Goldman Sachs and aithor of It Takes A Pillage

My Statement Regarding Greg Smith's Goldman Resignation

Today, I have received dozens of media requests and hundreds of emails regarding former Goldman Sachs executive, Greg Smith's gutsy, and internationally resonating, public resignation.

I applaud Smith's decision to bring the nature of Goldman's profit-making strategies to the forefront of the global population's discourse, as so many others have been doing through books, investigative journalism, and the Occupy movements over the past decade since my book, Other People's Money, was written after I resigned from Goldman. It would be great if Smith's illuminations would serve as the turning point around which serious examination and re-regulation of the banking system framework would transpire.

The inherent conflict of interest that firms such as Goldman possess through enjoying the multiple roles of 'market-maker,' 'securities creator' and 'client-advisor' foster an environment rife with systemic risk. The trading revenue portion of Goldman's profits, as well as its derivatives vs. assets ratio, is the highest amongst the American bank holding companies. And yet, in the fall of 2008, the Federal Reserve approved Goldman Sachs (along with Morgan Stanley) to alter its moniker from investment bank to bank holding company, thereby allowing it to gain access to federal subsidies and potential ongoing support.

In this regard, the firm's practices should remain under intense scrutiny by the general public and legislators. I would hope that the message behind Smith's resignation will not be obfuscated by debates over the extent to which the firm's clients are either supported or exploited, but instead, serve as a powerful call to foster a more-strictly delineated and less reckless financial system.

 


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Thu, 03/15/2012 - 23:29 | Link to Comment nestle
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Financial sector is going to lead the charge tomorrow again.

 

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 23:44 | Link to Comment trav7777
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probably...it's their way of pissing in the face of the 99%. the fuckin IMPOTENT 99%

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 00:27 | Link to Comment Dermasolarapate...
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Taxpayers (aka, the 99%) should feel warm and fuzzy being able to support the financial system and companies such as GS via Ben Bernank's Central Bank (aka, Federal Reserve). After all, did not the Goldman CEO last year made it clear he is, "doing God's work."

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 00:30 | Link to Comment spiral_eyes
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"The inherent conflict of interest that firms such as Goldman possess through enjoying the multiple roles of 'market-maker,' 'securities creator' and 'client-advisor' foster an environment rife with systemic risk."

Nomi Prins is f'n sexy.

And I like her for her mind. 

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 01:32 | Link to Comment Oh regional Indian
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It's all a part of the unfolding plan folks. the NY times, Goldman Sachs, New York, Insider suddenly blows up.... kind of like that US soldier in Afghanistan?

It's all a set-up. Now that everyone is angry enough with Wall Street, wall street will be selectively slapped around. Bread and Circuses... 

In this time, NO great change/announcement/movement is "real".

WHO said.. famously.... Don't get fooled again! Like Phony Kony, This Greg Smith thing is a bunch of smoke. Real shit is going down in ME/Africa... thsi is all just a distraction.

Meanwhile, check out the Sun, high weirdness abounds...

ori

/awe-in-spiring-surya-sun-sol/

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 03:52 | Link to Comment Seer
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Yes, I think that you've spotted it.

Despite all the BS, the world ONLY works on the PHYSICAL plane.  Energy, oil to be exact, is THE game.

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 06:38 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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Yup.....that's the game.....unfortunately most believe the paper is real.

 

Most new traders grew up with a wall of participation trophies....as they're being thrown on the scrapheap they'll wonder....what the hell just happened?

 

I hope the 99% are actually 44%.....otherwise we're pretty screwed.

 

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 07:19 | Link to Comment Oh regional Indian
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The biggest problem is that give any 99er the keys to join the 1% and they'll trample 44% of the people to get in.....alone.

A a society, everything is skewed, thus (and by design), Chaos. Ordo Ab etc. to follow later.

ori

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 13:37 | Link to Comment tamboo
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smith's a controlled opposition heeb, ron paul too.

junk away!

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 13:31 | Link to Comment RollinsArline3
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my roomate's mom makes $83/hr on the computer. She has been fired from work for 9 months but last month her pay check was $18339 just working on the computer for a few hours. Read more on this web site .....  http://bit.ly/FPPP3j

Sat, 03/17/2012 - 04:57 | Link to Comment Amagnonx
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The banks don't need customers, the politicians don't need voters.  In Greece, the politicians give their voters the finger and obey Brussels because - thats where the money comes from (in the US, its the same, but the voters pressure is magnitudes less) - the investment banks screw their clients, because they are only beholden to the Fed - because thats where the money comes from.

 

Its not rocket surgery - the morality is clear, and just laws are moral laws, but we will see no justice on this until there is a revolution, with or without violence.  The institution is the enemy - and we cannot work within it any more and expect just results.

 

The only solution is to exclude the institution from the circuit completely - a new financial system has to be built, and new government - these other pieces of garbage need to be dropped in histories trashcan - only the lesson needs to be remembered.

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 00:33 | Link to Comment alien-IQ
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Then you'll LOVE the cover of the April issue of The Atlantic Magazine

Ben Bernanke: The Hero

http://static7.businessinsider.com/image/4f608c2569bedd8e3700006a-900-/a...

To be honest, at first I thought it was one of Banzai's posters...but then I realized it was for real and I damn near puked.

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 00:42 | Link to Comment spiral_eyes
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I tried to read that article. The level of unadulterated nonsense spewing from that publication is growing to unbelievable levels.

Only recently they were saying currency wars are great news for everyone.

 

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 00:59 | Link to Comment alien-IQ
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I couldn't read it either. After a couple of paragraphs, I was fit to be tied.

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 06:23 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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Nobel Prize award......imminent.

 

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 08:08 | Link to Comment CPL
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You rage, you lose.

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 00:47 | Link to Comment williambanzai7
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Thank you for that. Lowenstein is a pompous fool.

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 00:58 | Link to Comment alien-IQ
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When I first saw it, several things came to mind:

1) It's from the Onion.

2) Banzai having some fun.

3) Can I be having acid flashbacks after all these years?

It just did not occur to me that it could possibly be real...and then...to my horror...it was.

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 01:16 | Link to Comment Tsunami Wave
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Funny enough, I had those same exact thoughts.  This is fucking unbelievable though.. I remember when this fucking idiot was named Time's "Person of the Year".  Just wow.

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 05:57 | Link to Comment LasVegasDave
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There are a lot of people in the NY metro area who really believe that Bernanke is the saviour rather than the destroyer of the middle class and a heroin pusher

Fuck you baby boomers

 

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 13:41 | Link to Comment tamboo
Sat, 03/24/2012 - 12:47 | Link to Comment hangemhigh
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TO:  alien-IQ

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Fri, 03/16/2012 - 06:06 | Link to Comment MeelionDollerBogus
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Ya, seriously, there was something not long ago on the net mocking people who can't tell the difference between TheOnion and actual news.

The Atlantic just vindicated all of them.

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 03:13 | Link to Comment Coldfire
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In the olden days it would have been like featuring John Wayne Gacy on the cover of "Boy's Life".

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 04:33 | Link to Comment BeetleBailey
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Sweet Jesus.....a sure sign of the Apocalypse....this bastard Berschmanke on the cover of crap, called a "hero"....good Gawd.....this prick prints money and he's called a "hero"......holy mother ......

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 23:28 | Link to Comment Cursive
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I would hope that the message behind Smith's resignation will not be obfuscated by debates over the extent to which the firm's clients are either supported or exploited, but instead, serve as a powerful call to foster a more-strictly delineated and less reckless financial system.

Hope is a four letter word.  The elites are too entrenched to allow the necessary changes.  Just look at the smirk on Jamie Dimon's face. 

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 23:33 | Link to Comment kito
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But....but...jamie gives me rewards points........I just received a $25 gift card to home depot from them....well worth the $2000 in interest I paid on my card last year...

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 23:35 | Link to Comment Cursive
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@kito

You're a revolver!  Say it ain't so!  No way those scumbags get an extra penny from me.  I'm seriously thinking about chucking all of my cards and going cash.  BTW, I'll be getting my $300 check next month.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 23:35 | Link to Comment TheFourthStooge-ing
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Cursive said:

Hope is a four letter word.  The elites are too entrenched to allow the necessary changes.  Just look at the smirk on Jamie Dimon's face.

The smirk on Jamie Dimon's face reminds me that rope and hang are also four letter words.


Thu, 03/15/2012 - 23:40 | Link to Comment Cursive
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@TheFourthStooge-ing

As "Everyman" said in the Pham thread, I think it is coming to that, which is sad.  Once street violence starts, the victims are often the unintended.  I am by no means advocating that anyone lay down or rollover - but anyone who wishes to engage in protests or uprisings should consider the possible collateral damage.  I want a better country, not a bloodier one.

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 01:38 | Link to Comment Oh regional Indian
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Very true Cursive. Unfortunately, the other side of Bread And Circuses is Blood and Gore.

ori

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 06:38 | Link to Comment Miss Expectations
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Here's Caligula

Once at some games at which he was presiding, he ordered his guards to throw an entire section of the crowd into the arena during intermission to be eaten by animals because there were no criminals to be prosecuted and he was bored.[96]

http://www.enotes.com/topic/Caligula

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 07:20 | Link to Comment azzhatter
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My fear is the corruption is so deep rooted, so entrenched that it can only end with violence. A Corzine or a Mozilo and others hanging from a lamp post . We seem to be beyond a peaceful fix.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 23:29 | Link to Comment ZDRuX
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She mentions how the government allowed Goldman to receive gov subsidies and support, but just earlier was saying how the gov needs to regulate the banks. The banks aren't the problem.. government being used as a conduit is the problem.

 

You will never get rid of human greed so don't try to outlaw it.. simply remove the entity that facilitates and protects this behavior and you've got an environment in which banks are scared to fail like any other business.

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 01:08 | Link to Comment UP Forester
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They're not just scared to fail.  They're outright scared.

With the MF'nG trustee releasing $685 Million they "found" to try to appease the muppets, they're telegraphing their fear.  The backlash is getting to them.

They are desperately trying to keep the Reserve Currency from falling.  You can see that in the more and more frequent Thor's Hammer smacking on PMs.  Everyone with two functioning neurons can see right through any economic number that .gov or (for the most part) big banks put out.

The grip on the Ponzi Pole is slipping.  The waters are receding.  The little fish are flopping on the sand, looking up at the house of cards, and seeing it for what it is, while the big fish are quietly swimming away.

I hope you're inland, away from the big cities, because this tsunami is going to be epic.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 23:42 | Link to Comment chump666
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devour it's self in realtime.

that is awesome.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 23:43 | Link to Comment Arkadaba
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"... the firm's practices should remain under intense scrutiny..."

Definitely framing any debate (whether consciously or not) by the reference to the practices of the firm as opposed to the scrutiny of the firm itself. Kind of weak.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 23:55 | Link to Comment Alexandros
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The “assault” started with the "commander of chief" of the Federal Reserve Bank of USA targeting all the countries; The CEO of the central public bank of the USA with the private funds, the public bank of the USA with the Club private funds. After the fall of the interest rates, they aimed at “flooding” West with “cheap” money, in order to destroy its industrial capital. They were turned to “giants” using unnatural means like the “air” of the housing loans in the USA and then they went out to the Planet to “sweep” everything. With the collaboration of the "generals" from the other side of the ocean they leveled everything. They just threw money to the market in a way destroying capital. They financed commerce and this exhausted production.

Using cheap money, traders exhausted producers within a few years. Citibank, Deutsche Bank under the auspices of the European Central Bank swept everything. They were the "pace-setters" and all the other banks of Europe were following. Abundant money turned industrial capital “useless” and this is what "shut them down". The “bombarding” of Europe was total and absolutely “leveling”. Within just a few years all the Western production was moved in China in just a few steps. Western countries ended up in total unemployment. The elimination of productions and the control of the market by the traders made the supreme capital of Copyright come true. This is the Club capital. The empire has started to “rise” over the dead “bodies” of factories.

World War III - The First Private War in History

Those who won all battles shall lose the war

http://eamb-ydrohoos.blogspot.com/2012/02/world-war-iii.html

Authored by PANAGIOTIS TRAIANOU

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 01:56 | Link to Comment i-dog
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Thank you for changing your message! This one is much more focussed than the last [frequently repeated] one ... keep it up!

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 14:22 | Link to Comment tamboo
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good read, i doubt the tylers have the balls to put it on zh.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 23:53 | Link to Comment gwar5
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I think all of the Goldmanites should start squealing on all the criminal activities.  We already know they have no ethics. Maybe they can start with cooking the books on Greece and how they were able to pass it off. The Germans want to know so they can clawback.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 23:54 | Link to Comment nah
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not till oil is a buck fifty or ten dollars

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 23:59 | Link to Comment non_anon
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I think Nomi is hot in a Jewish way

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 01:53 | Link to Comment CompassionateFascist
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She plays both sides, like co-ethnic Max Keiser: bankster to socialist critic and back again. I hear her "Natalie Prentice" novel(s) are somewhat S&M'y. Possibly I'll read one someday...but not while ZH is available.

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 03:10 | Link to Comment non_anon
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oi vey!

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 19:16 | Link to Comment headless blogger
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Max Keiser is NOT Jewish. He had to set the record straight on this before.

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 00:06 | Link to Comment sitenine
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...in the fall of 2008, the Federal Reserve approved Goldman Sachs (along with Morgan Stanley) to alter its moniker from investment bank to bank holding company...

Stupidity knows no bounds.

Do you think MF Global was an isolated event?

Do you think these holding companies will ever revert back to investment banks?

Do you think your deposits are safe just because they are FDIC insured?  Are you SURE?

Do you really think they give a shit about you?

Do you honestly think this can end well?

I don't.

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 00:14 | Link to Comment Desert Irish
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Money talks bullshit walks......Muppets take a hike....

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 00:20 | Link to Comment alien-IQ
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so may people use that term "money talks". the problem is that they don't listen to what the money says. when "money talks"...it's usually telling you that you are it's whore.

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 00:36 | Link to Comment nah
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blah blah blah

.

keep running

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 00:44 | Link to Comment AndrewCostello
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It shows the sheer stupidity of the public when they are still investing in a company where the staff are known to call them names and steal their money.

How stupid is ANYONE who gives their money to anyone else who acts like that.

 

Read this for some much better advice.

http://www.amazon.com/Simple-Wealth-Mr-Andrew-Costello/dp/1463523017/ref

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 08:24 | Link to Comment TuffsNotEnuff
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After the second GS presentation on mortgage-based derivatives that we evaluated in 2006, a thorough check was run on their "facts" for the two deals.

Never have we done business with them after that. A rule, internally, was made to that effect in early 2007. Evaluating two more deals brought the same results for an 0-for-4 crime spree evaluation. At the time we had no idea that GS was paying the rating agencies 10-times-plus fees to get their "AAA" ratings. We also had no idea that the New York State laws against fraud and bribery had been revoked.

1) Vader: "I find your lack of faith disturbing"

2) Maverick: "You can fool some of the people all of the time and all of the people some of the time. And them's pretty good odds."

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 00:46 | Link to Comment q99x2
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1 million to 1. I like those odds.

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 00:52 | Link to Comment alien-IQ
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And yet another whistleblower emerges:

J.P. Morgan Chase's Ugly Family Secrets Revealed

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/j-p-morgan-chases-ug...

And the more extensive and detailed version of the story is available here:

OCC Probing JPMorgan Chase Credit Card Collections

JPMorgan Chase & Co. took procedural shortcuts and used faulty account records in suing tens of thousands of delinquent credit card borrowers for at least two years, current and former employees say.

The process flaws sparked a regulatory probe by the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency and forced the bank to stop suing delinquent borrowers altogether last year. The bank's errors could call into question the legitimacy of billions of dollars in outstanding claims against debtors and of legal judgments Chase has already won, current and former Chase employees say.

For the banking industry at large, the situation at Chase highlights the risk that shoddy back-office procedures and flawed legal work extends well beyond mortgage servicing.

http://www.americanbanker.com/issues/177_49/chase-credit-cards-collectio...

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 02:18 | Link to Comment i-dog
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"shoddy back-office procedures and flawed legal work"

Ahhh ... yes. That must be it!

No mention of "board policy", "collusion", "incompetent auditors", "blind oversight by dozens of government oversight agencies and congressional committees", "congressional lobbying", "presidential campaign contributions", "[non-]Federal [non-]Reserve [non-]Bank enabling", etc.

Nice smokescreen hidden in an "exposé". Note how even Nomi Prins also calls for "re-regulation" of the banks that have been heaviily protected ... errr, regulated ... since the 19th Century. The removal of Glass-Steagall occured 28 years after America suffered a "credit event" that was an admission of bankruptcy for the second (or was it the third?) time.

Expect more diversions into nonsensical [already tried and failed] "solutions" in the coming weeks ... all of them requiring more government involvement and none of them subjecting the banks to simple, open, un-backstopped, competition in a free market.

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 04:42 | Link to Comment Seer
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Yeah, it's like an axe murderer saying that their swing was misplaced (or "all those people got in the way of me swinging the axe").

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 05:10 | Link to Comment Oh regional Indian
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hah! funny visual seer... buttttt...butttt your honour, I was just practising my swing.

ori

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 08:29 | Link to Comment TuffsNotEnuff
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And the same ax-murderer blames the cop on the block for not being down there in the cellar to stop him.

Blame government for everything. But it's not really government they don't like. Here's the real message:

"Democracy is not the solution for our problems.

Democracy is the problem."

Ronnie had such a nice way, pushing all-out corporatist fascism.

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 01:33 | Link to Comment The Alarmist
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Goldman Sachs = Knights Templar

Doing God's work, alright ... it will take accusations of something like large scale pedophelia to bring them down, and even that doesn't seem to be a fatal flaw these days, to wit the Catholic Church.

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 01:41 | Link to Comment Oh regional Indian
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Wham Wham Wham..... too true TA. The bi-fucation (!!!!) of society is clear for all to see.

ori

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 03:25 | Link to Comment SoundMoney45
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Goldman Sachs is no different today than ten years ago.  The alumni are morally identical to the current employees.  Goldman Sachs does not have a short term management problem.  The financial system is and has been completely corrupt.  Changing a few Goldman Sachs managers with a revolving door changes nothing.  Really, the elite need to try harder, this is a pathetically transparent effort.

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 04:24 | Link to Comment Zero Govt
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"..would serve as the turning point around which serious examination and re-regulation of the banking system framework would transpire.."

Even simpler Mr Prins pull away Nanny's nipple at the Fed.. let Goldman face reality (bankruptcy)

It's called the Free Market model Mr Prins, you haven't heard about it at Goldmans for 100 years.. try it sometime, it beats regulation EVERY time in every way (it's free too)

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 04:29 | Link to Comment Olympia
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Bilderberg Group and the crimes against humanity.

This is how things work in all countries. Whatever used to belong to their people, today it belongs to the multinational companies of the Club. People were betrayed by their given leaderships and they lost everything. Capitals and markets were handed to the Club bosses. If you understand what is going on in Greece, you can understand what is going on in Britain, France, and Germany etc..

http://eamb-ydrohoos.blogspot.com/2012/02/world-war-iii.html

Authored by PANAGIOTIS TRAIANOU

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 06:22 | Link to Comment williambanzai7
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SHITTY DEAL STREET

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 06:41 | Link to Comment non_anon
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oi vey! WBanzai is at it already! Go Miss Piggy and Fuck Loyd B.!

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 06:46 | Link to Comment XtraBullish
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Whiners everywhere...Goldman took a bailout because the people we elected are too fucking stupid/corrupt to say "No" and then we go back to the polls and re-elect the same thieves because we are too fucking stupid/naive/corrupted to elect and then hold accountable the right people. No wonder Lloyd is laughing - he cannot believe the SAT scores of the people he has bribed over the years in order to avoid prosecution and imprisonment within the General Population of the Indiana State Penitentiary. 

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 07:25 | Link to Comment Oh regional Indian
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And you Brave Genius? Are you free of blame? Did you stop paying your taxes once you understood the IRS fraud? Rip up your driving licence once you figured you are a freeman? Can you now waltz into a court of LAW and tell the Judge of the Court where his Admirality finishes and the real world begins?

What do you do differently? Not vote? Very brave and intelligent of you. 

ori

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 08:09 | Link to Comment TuffsNotEnuff
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Nomi --

 

Thank you.

---------------------------

 

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 08:42 | Link to Comment Silver Dreamer
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All of these so-called whistle blowers are missing the root cause.  The banks are our government.  All of this whining and bitching will do nothing until that fact is changed.

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 09:14 | Link to Comment Widowmaker
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Not one thing will "change."

The only way change will occur is through total destruction of these vomit-darlings.

Thinking these firms will change only encourages them not to -- those promoting the possibility are supportive of the present state of racketeering.

Here's another hint for all you optimistic fucks, no change will occur (except words) until TBTF is gone and the Fed destroyed.

The banks act like emotional adolescent fucking babies, always a victim, never accountable.  As any parent knows when that is the case not one fucking thing will happen on its own.  Golddick Shitstain is a fag-show of rich babies that run to papa Fed to fix EVERYTHING.

ZH is full of suckers promoting change when there will be exactly zero.  Nice try Nomi, way to duck.

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