One Greek's Take On The Upcoming Referendum

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Tue, 11/01/2011 - 16:36 | 1834117 ml8ml8
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I predict a misfire.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 16:41 | 1834158 Financial_Guard...
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Not if you lubricate the barrel with some Grecian Formula!

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 17:44 | 1834480 I am more equal...
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No

This calls for something really obnoxious.  The Deathmobile!

Flounder, from Delta House - the Greeks - throw a huge Frat party (Toga... Toga.. Toga), get drunk and then turn the gun on the crowd promptly killing Europa.  That's ok, Bluto will fix it.  Start drinking - trust me - I'm in pre-Keynesian. 

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 17:45 | 1834483 Pool Shark
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The Greek People need to turn that revolver back on their pathetic leaders;

Just like the Icelanders did... 

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 19:23 | 1834823 vocational tainee
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I would love to see that...

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 19:27 | 1834839 vocational tainee
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I would love to see that...

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 16:48 | 1834192 The Chief
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I fear that your prediction is likely to be realized. My fear is that the fix is in. If they can rig elections in the US with machinery/gameplans developed in Chicago, then what chance do the people of Greece have against these monsters?

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 17:02 | 1834248 DormRoom
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Everyone is missing the bigger picture.  Now with the a Greek referendum certain, Italian (PIIGs) bonds will go higher, thus the contagion will spread!

Greece referendum won't be on Un-ge-la's mind, when the need to backstop Italy is whispered in the Bundestag.

Greece default is old news.  Italy default is what worries Un-ge-la.  And the chances have now increased exponentially.  ECB will be buying US printing presses to meet demand.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 18:30 | 1834633 TradingJoe
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All printing presses are from Germany HEIDELBERGER DRUCK!!! :)))

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 17:02 | 1834257 CompassionateFascist
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There will be no Referendum. Banksters/NATO, operating thru a cabel of Greek Generals, will seize "control" of the country.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 17:21 | 1834354 Cole Younger
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Explain why anyone would seize the country. Greece has no resouces, no manufacturing, no anything of real value. It's major industry is tourism. It would make no sense whats so ever. The U.S. on the other hand is ripe for the seizing when we default. Problem with that is our private citizens have more guns and amunition than the entire world...

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 17:27 | 1834391 Ned Zeppelin
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Why seize the country?  It must be seized and sentenced to austerity forever as just punishment for the audacity of its citizens for saying "enough!" and, more importantly, as an object lesson to all other citizens to heed their masters' instructions (which come straight from the banks) that disobedience will not be tolerated.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 17:41 | 1834429 redpill
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Greece would be the model for the new world order.  Perpetual indentured servitude.  So much debt you can never pay it off, you live like a pauper and can barely keep up on the interest payments.  Holes up and down each arm, being bled as quickly as possible.  Peak interest bloodflow.  But the beasts always hunger for more, after the Greeks are subdued they'll turn to the next country and force them to prostrate themselves.  Thank goodness Iceland is an out-of-the-way island that most people don't pay attention to.  That default shit just won't do.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 18:02 | 1834545 Cole Younger
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The EU did not have to accept Greece into its monetary union. Oh well, no one is going to seize crap as there isn't crap to seize...thats why they are in the position they are in....they have nothing...

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 18:26 | 1834606 Tompooz
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@Cole ""The U.S. on the other hand is ripe for the seizing when we default. Problem with that is our private citizens have more guns and amunition than the entire world..."

 

Guns, yes.., but ammunition..??  Supplies can easily be cut off and that (barring a lively black market) will be the end of the "seizing".

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 22:14 | 1835316 Lednbrass
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Plenty of people with thousands of rounds stockpiled, not to mention primers, powder, reloading equipment, etc. Some expecting trouble stockpile silver and gold coins, others have more faith in less flashy metals.  Billions of rounds are sold annually in thousand round cases to individuals- the citizenry probably has at least as much ammuntion stashed as the government does.

Depepnds on where you live I guess, but in the south its probably more common then not to have at least a few hundred rounds and many people have a case or two of 5.56 for the AR or 7.62 for the AK- without even counting a couple hundred rounds for high powered scoped hunting rifles.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 18:42 | 1834665 MS7
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Gold in Greece

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/81d4ec44-a992-11e0-a04a-00144feabdc0.html...

Natural gas in Crete

http://www.greeknewsonline.com/?p=16884

Greece has onyx, marble, potential for agriculture (this dropped precipitously when it joined the EU). I'm no expert on resources but these were just off the top of my head.

It has tremendous strategic importance. 

Turkey for one would love some Greek territory.

I frankly see no reason why anyone would seize the ugly US. What does the US have? I don't want to mention the names of any states so as not to insult people but yuck. Who would want the US?

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 19:00 | 1834740 Dirt Rat
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True dat. You should take a very close look at our decaying, decrepit infrastructure-- our water delivery and sewage systems, our roads, bridges, everything. There's been no maintenance on these things for the last 30 years and they're really becoming unserviceable.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 20:33 | 1835060 Things that go bump
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How dare you!  We have Disney World.  

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 18:12 | 1834582 SamAdams1234
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Germany needs a place to escape the winters in Berlin.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 16:51 | 1834205 CClarity
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Uh-oh!  Panos Beglitis,Greek defence minister, fired the armed forces chiefs of staff, after an unannounced meeting earlier today of the inner cabinet, which takes responsibility for defence decisions. No reason was given, writes the FT’s Kerin Hope in Athens.Panos Beglitis, Greek

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 17:06 | 1834281 kloot
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or maybe it was just an illussion of roulette, and the weapon was wiped clean. he cost alot of ppl alot of money today.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 16:35 | 1834120 RaymondKHessel
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Got Gold

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 16:56 | 1834232 redpill
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Nice little rebound this afternoon. SHTF hedging.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 17:25 | 1834381 youngman
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Its funny but the only thing we are missing in this chess match is the gold and silver going to the moon....CDS´s are up...bond prices are maxed out...its really time for gold to hit $5,000 and silver $50 IMHO....then the picture has been painted..

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 18:53 | 1834714 Abitdodgie
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This is not the event , gold and silver wil only go to the moon the day/week of the final collapse , they want all the gold for ultimate control and to re value for the new world paper.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 17:38 | 1834453 Citxmech
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The fact that PMs and Oil held in spite of a -300pt day signals to me that serious inflation is knocking on the door.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 16:36 | 1834127 johnnymustardseed
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One wonders at the drama... just default and start over .... Iceland did and nobody died

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 16:45 | 1834177 walküre
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Iceland is not a nation of tax cheats, socialists and nudists.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 16:57 | 1834240 redpill
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Not true!  Rumor has it you can still find entire frozen nudist colonies beneath the Vatnajokull Glacier.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 23:18 | 1835512 TheFourthStooge-ing
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The people of Iceland obviously take great pride in their grapefruit-sized balls.

 

 

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 18:10 | 1834573 Eally Ucked
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I thought that nudist thing was started by Germans, isn't it true? Also I think that all that despised socialist movements started in Germany, it's bullshit also? At least I cannot call Germans tax cheaters, they are really hard working folks.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 18:25 | 1834618 walküre
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Did Germans invent nudism? Possibly, they invented most everything else. Socialism is fine if you can afford it. Greece can't afford it. Germany cannot afford to drop socialism alltogether.

There are Germans working for less than 4 Euros per hour. I don't know how they can afford to live in Germany but they can. Germany has no legalized minimum wage - yet.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 18:44 | 1834676 MS7
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Are they Germans working for less than minimum wage or mostly immigrants? Who would want a country with no minimum wage? That's sad.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 18:55 | 1834724 Abitdodgie
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Four Euros, I would not get out of bed to piss for that.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 18:56 | 1834729 Eally Ucked
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Don't be so arrogant man! 15 hundreds years ago you could not even face Romans in batlle field, your culture was nothing when Greeks were laying foundations for modern science and art. You were pushed by Slavic tribes and Mongols to  what you have now. Maybe, if you have some decency, you will acknowledge that wheel of history is still turning and talking about last 1 or 2 hundred years is nothing, you won't see it, but maybe in todays Germany in 3 hundred years history will see new Ottoman Empire or Islamic Republic in your territories. Is it possible?    

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 22:20 | 1835335 Lednbrass
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Errrr....as point of reality, 15 hundred years ago Germans smashed the degenerate Roman Empire.  The Romans never did succeed in taking more then a rather small portion of German territory for any length of time, and after Varus they were afraid to try.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 17:15 | 1834334 nwskii
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Iceland? LOL Nobody cares about Iceland its not really even a country. Watch the dominos fall, it will be fun when Spain shits the bed

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 16:36 | 1834130 unionbroker
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maybe it is just the Greeks thinking that if they are fucked why not make sure the rest of the world goes down with them.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 16:59 | 1834245 redpill
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maybe it is just the Greeks thinking that if they are fucked why not make sure the multinational banking interests go down with them.

 

Fixed.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 17:28 | 1834401 moneymutt
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crashing the money system, wiping out unpayable debts, starting a global jubilee is not fucking the world, its taking pain now to avoid never ending pain for 30 years.

Bailing out Greece is not about saving Greece, austerity paying debts will be extremely painful even with 50 percent haircuts.

Bailing out Greece is about making sure French and German bank investors do not lose all their money on bad loans. It protecting the banks.

So if you are a banker, then your world would end with a Greek default, for the rest of us, it would be a painful storm, but a passing one.

Iceland defaulted by not backing banks and devaluing currency for a while. Zimbabwe defaulted by printing money. Both countries are now doing pretty darn well, because no one has debt anymore. Jubilee, since biblical times, the only solution a debt that cant be paid, isnt paid.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 10:12 | 1836504 AE911Truth
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re: moneymutt: "the only solution a debt that cant be paid, isnt paid."

Or pay the debt with US Treasury issued interest free money.

result? No debt, no interest payments, and all the money we need.

Save your wealth in precious metals. Pay off debt with interest free money.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 17:28 | 1834403 moneymutt
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crashing the money system, wiping out unpayable debts, starting a global jubilee is not fucking the world, its taking pain now to avoid never ending pain for 30 years.

Bailing out Greece is not about saving Greece, austerity paying debts will be extremely painful even with 50 percent haircuts.

Bailing out Greece is about making sure French and German bank investors do not lose all their money on bad loans. It protecting the banks.

So if you are a banker, then your world would end with a Greek default, for the rest of us, it would be a painful storm, but a passing one.

Iceland defaulted by not backing banks and devaluing currency for a while. Zimbabwe defaulted by printing money. Both countries are now doing pretty darn well, because no one has debt anymore. Jubilee, since biblical times, the only solution a debt that cant be paid, isnt paid.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 16:36 | 1834135 mjk0259
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The enemy will be too busy stealing things to shoot.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 16:37 | 1834139 qussl3
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Just point the gun elsewhere idiot.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 16:38 | 1834142 Timmay
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The Banks want you to believe that freedom is scary. It's not.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 16:46 | 1834182 AldoHux_IV
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+1

The current system is far scarier when it comes to rascals and false prophets.  Make no mistake about it: the government does not care about your well being only the total annihilation of freedom and democracy and they will create hell before giving up that power.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 20:39 | 1835084 Things that go bump
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I figure the government would  kill us all before letting us go.    

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 16:39 | 1834144 spinone
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Kabuki theater. Diversions. What's really going on?

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 17:07 | 1834293 CPL
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Think back to Turkey...

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