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Netflix Implodes After Reporting Horrific Guidance; Notes It Repuchased Stock At $218 Avg Cost Basis

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One hopes that the European surprise on Wednesday will be more successful than this. In the meantime, the XIRR on Jim Cramer's recommendation to buy NFLX on Sept 26 at $135 through the current AH price of $87 is -99.6%.

Earnings summary shows EPS forecast peaking at $0.70 which the street had at $1.10. Explains the epic collapse in the stock after hours.

Some highlights from the letter:

  • We expect streaming net addition will be negative in October due to the cancellation wave referred to above
  • We used $39.6 million in Q3 to repurchase 182,000 shares at an average cost basis of $218.
  • After the repurchases we finished the quarter with $366 million in cash and equivalents
  • We expect to report a global consolidated net loss in Q1 2012 as well as to consumer cash as we launch the UK

And here is why we repeat our warning from last year, that Netflix' business model demands a follow on offering:

  • We expect our FCF to continue to lag net income for the next few
    quarters as our spending on content continues to increase both
    domestically and internationally
  • By pausing on further international expansion and halting buybacks, our current cash on hand is adequate to support the growth of the business. As we have done in the past, we will continue to evaluate the appropriate cash level for the business

Cramer buying at $135 on September 26, 2011

The IRR for anyone who listened to Cramer a month ago: -99.6%

In other news, sub $100  make that $87

Full earnings "investor letter"



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Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:11 | 1805728 Long-John-Silver
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Where is RoboTimber?

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:13 | 1805758 Divided States ...
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Robo went to the post office to return his Netflix porno DVDs.

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:29 | 1805827 Pladizow
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Tilson's got to be kicking himself in the ass for originally getting out of the trade, even though I think he later put the short back on!

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 17:06 | 1805969 trav7777
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NFLX was buying the stock to support the options of management...this is .com all over again.  They wasted cash and profits to funnel to executives.  Heads of these incompetent asses need to roll

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 17:13 | 1806002 Herd Redirectio...
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Check out the latest from the Capital Research Institue "On Behalf of the 99%":

"...the media for the most part is completely in the dark, at best, or complicit, at worst.

The point being, people don’t really know WHAT they want, in terms of reform.  Thats why the ‘Change’ gimmick worked so well for Obama.  Because people KNOW they want change, they just want someone to tell them what will be changed, and why that will be better.  Herman Cain’s 9-9-9 plan is the exact same.  People aren’t worried about the specifics, they just know they want change.   Well, I am here to help steer the herd a little, as it were.

What is needed is the banning of usury, an end to the Federal Reserve System, and a return to Sound Money, for starters."

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 20:22 | 1806524 AldousHuxley
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Herman Cain wants you to pay 9.99 for a slice of Diarrhea Pie.


Don't get stuck in an elevator after eating one of those like this guy...


Future of USA

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 21:15 | 1806696 captnKrunch
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hmmm.  Let me suggest that first we need to get REPRESENTATIVES in washington ... not shills.  I suggest the best way to do this is to criminalize bribing of politicians via campaign contributions by organizations THAT CAN'T VOTE.  The other kind of bribery is already illegal.  If you can't vote, you can't bribe!  This is not a violation of the first amendment because (1) organizations aren't people (they can't vote can they?) and (2) they can run any ads they want saying anything they want (without direction from a candidate).

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 21:21 | 1806716 Hephasteus
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Let's just be a simple fuck about it.

Netflix and hulu have one job. Destroy the old cable tv business model of television where shit was simply broadcast to dumb tvs and radios and replace it with a new business model where shit is broadcast to trackable mac addresses. Because you can't enforce rediculously high priced enterentainment without lots of jail and lawyer and data processing overhead. I mean seriously do you seriously think they can charge 100 120 bucks a month for cable and internet? Hell no they can't. Why do you think they switched to digital tv? To get more hi quality channel transmissions? NO because TV decoder boxes have a mac address and are "SMART".

The hollywood fucktard companies didn't start the cable companies and turn them into massive structure query language fucktard machines so they couldn't play god now did they?

They want to make more money on the new machinery than they made on the older simpler machinery and be more landlordish about it. Problem is they won't.  Hulu is CBS fox news and disney which is wierdly comcast. Netflix is microsoft and all the mysterious fuckers behind them. Blockbuster is dish network which is a bunch of creepy ass jewish cell phone companies. 

You are inside the biggest blackest box of monopolistic lying ass entertainment. It's a bit more complicated than executive profits. It's the power to make or break actors control their behaivor. Make them act out rediculous fucking farces of reality. Claw back payments with drugs. Because nobody will fucking protect you like an addict who gets drugs from you.

It's like that late show guy. The drew carey british guy. He's a fucking drug addict. He had several shows dedicated to making fun of gaddafi complete with fake audience laugh tracks and nothing behind it but celebrating jews.

All these tech companies are not tech companies. They are simply tech companies that are stitched to the entertianment and propaganda industries asshole. And they'll destroy their old companies to drive people to new "distribution" systems in a heart beat. If it means more power more control more ability to flavor the manipulation just so.

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 22:49 | 1806931 dark pools of soros
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I just love netflix for the animefix  - japanese still know to enjoy themselves..  maybe the stock will go down to $50 so I can buy back in where I sold before the run up  :)

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 01:08 | 1807168 Oh regional Indian
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Nice Heph. Like the way your mind works. Interesting in-sights.


Mon, 10/24/2011 - 23:49 | 1807066 prains
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NFLX is the US economy in short hand writing

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:44 | 1805893 homersimpson
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Actually, he tried to go to Vegas to convince the Pit Boss that he should be allowed to bet on a number AFTER the dice is thrown..

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:51 | 1805916 ebworthen
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They have porno?

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 17:00 | 1805946 Sudden Debt
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Yes, you even get to lick it as many times like you want.

It's very popular so it seems.

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 17:03 | 1805957 UGrev
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The irony here is that porn is probably one of the only things that could save Netflix.. 

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 17:06 | 1805972 trav7777
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too much free porn available like everywhere else

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 17:10 | 1805985 UGrev
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while true, there are people that don't want to surf to search and wade through the virus ridden interwebs to find it. There are more people who don't want to bother with it and would rent it for a few bucks than have to waste time trying to find it. It's a convenience cost.. nothing more.. and people pay for convenience all the time. 

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 17:29 | 1806051 nyse
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Pretty doubtful one would get a virus from free porn, haha! Who is this guy? 

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 19:10 | 1806347 UGrev
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I wasn't referring to the free porn once you found it.. I was referring to acquiring during the search for it.. 

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 19:27 | 1806383 DeeDeeTwo
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You must be running Windows 98.


Mon, 10/24/2011 - 21:28 | 1806740 UGrev
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You would be surprised how many hundreds of thousands of people don't know how to navigate the net and end up with nasty shit on their systems. 


Mon, 10/24/2011 - 23:07 | 1806985 Hephasteus
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Those days are long gone. They can track you completely now. No need to fuck with your computer any more.

I mean sure it's not failsafe. I've been on the net where it throught It was someone else. It's a rush but it's also extremely difficult. The reason ad trackers and ad aware are gone is because you've got 6 to 12 ad bots attached to your ass every time you log in the internet. They get you from the second you enter the door and have you tagged till you log out.

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 19:01 | 1806322 Hugh G Rection
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works great on smart phones too!

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 19:18 | 1806365 Hulk
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links to support your case???

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 17:14 | 1806006 Agent P
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Not to mention the irony that Robo's popularity around here seemed to plummet when stopped including porn in his posts.

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 17:37 | 1806079 WTF_247
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Well if they wanted to do gay porn, they could always call it NetDix ....

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 19:02 | 1806325 RacerX
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How about Lesbian porn? NetLIX?

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:40 | 1805885 LeonardoFibonacci
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This is not funny, i just called Robo's mom and she said he just attempted to drown himself in the plastic kiddie pool in the backyard.  The fire department is on its way.  He will surely be placed on suicide watch.

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 17:04 | 1805963 UGrev
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Is anyone willing to be "on watch" ?

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 17:29 | 1806054 nyse
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What a pussy. Shoulda just drank a glass of Drano like his dad did.

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 17:50 | 1806106 oddjob
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Shoulda just drank a glass of Drano like his dad did.

Ask his mom which one of his thousand fathers did that.

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:45 | 1805898 High Plains Drifter
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where is cramer?   

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:52 | 1805914 sheeple2012
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His BUY BUY BUY at $295 went down the Cramerica memory hole a long time ago....

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 17:19 | 1806021 depression
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God Bless Jim Cramer

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 18:21 | 1806213 Grinder74
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#WeCantWait for Cramer to go down his own memory hole.

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 20:02 | 1806475 AldousHuxley
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you mean like this?


Jim Cramer: "Bear Stearns is Fine!" Tues, 3/11/08

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 17:11 | 1805993 NumberNone
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Was watching CNBC the other day and had volume down and closed caption on.  Every time Cramer's name was mentioned by someone on  air, CC typed 'Crimer'.  How prescient. 

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:46 | 1805902 YesWeKahn
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Not funny at all, Robo was enjoying today's rally.

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:53 | 1805924 Ruffcut
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Too bad the puts on this Bag O' Shit, were a little expensive.

Robo will be fine, He will get back on his mule only to fall off, again.

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 17:00 | 1805950 LooseLee
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Yea, where is that bull fucktard? Netflix was the highlight of his postings in June/July and before. So what happened Robo? Did the ZH 'smart money' catch you unaware? What say now?

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 17:06 | 1805968 Freddie
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LOL!  Did Cramer really pimp Netflix?  Too funny. What a ass he is.

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 17:12 | 1805996 HedgeAccordingly
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NFLX is/was the next crox -   

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:10 | 1805729 redpill
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Someone call Robo's mom and have her check on him in the basement please.

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:31 | 1805846 Pladizow
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Auto-erotic asphixiation?

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:41 | 1805865 redpill
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More like Autobot fixation.  He likes Optimus Prime the best, it's just unfortunate the decals fall off in the bathtub.

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 18:00 | 1806134 Arkadaba
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Hey Robo,Robo , come out to play!

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:50 | 1805911 LFMayor
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Hung foo, just like Carradiene.  While listening to an old INXS cassette.

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 17:21 | 1806028 depression
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Robo is the best hindsight trader I have ever seen.

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:10 | 1805732 GeneMarchbanks
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Short to 0. Nuff said.

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:11 | 1805736 ZeroPower
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Beat, but all about guidance on that POS going fwd

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:12 | 1805741 HelluvaEngineer
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God, why didn't you tell me this 10 minutes ago so that I could buy it!!  Gonna rip tomorrow!

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:14 | 1805765 Archimedes
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July 13, 2011 NFLX: $298

October 24, 2011 NFLX: $99

I don't have a PHD in Economics but I think that is something like a 66% drop in stock price!

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:57 | 1805936 SilverCoinLover
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Hitler NFLX long at $298 downfall parody coming to YouTube in 3..2..1...

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 17:01 | 1805953 hawks5999
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This just looks like a least-significant digit pricing trick...

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:14 | 1805766 HedgeFun
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I love timber.  Great inflation hedge. 

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:16 | 1805768 Belarus
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Well....the cynic in me says just like the Timber for APPL, and the susequent rise, will likely happen with NFLX too. Not that i give a shit because I wouln't go long anything this manufactored market. For now, at least something is going down. LOL. 

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:15 | 1805769 caerus
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nflx short...the gift that keeps on giving

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:25 | 1805807 WonderDawg
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I'm hoping for the same on the CMG puts I just bought.

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:47 | 1805847 caerus
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it is looking a bit triple toppy isn't it?  that move after earnings isn't going to last early to tell for sure but i've got the same trade on

edit:  watching deck into earnings as well

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:55 | 1805930 WonderDawg
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How can you not play it short? Trading at P/E almost 2.5 times higher than industry average, in an industry that's got to be ready to tank.

CRM looks like a good short, too. Keeping my eyes on that one, ready to pounce.

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 17:09 | 1805981 trav7777
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man, CRM gave and then took a ton of my money in 08 LOL.

Would love to be short that pig, along with LULU and the entire CREIT complex, when the time is right.

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 17:32 | 1806063 WonderDawg
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I hear ya. I'm short LULU, too. Getting killed right now, but my puts are for March, so I still expect them to make it into the money, just paid too much for them when I bought. Oh well, it's all a gamble when it's just a game.

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:37 | 1805871 tekhneek
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I'm there with you.

We'll see what happens.

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:15 | 1805770 irishlink
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For 18 months I watched and read the call for this stock to collapse on ZH. Weeks before it finally does, Not a word! By then I had switched off....another one bites the dust

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:16 | 1805773 Belarus
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Yeah, one thing I've realzied about ZH, is there is a lot of 20/20 hindsight going on. 

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:24 | 1805796 WonderDawg
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You get what you pay for. By the way, who told you ZH provided forward-looking investment advice?

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:36 | 1805857 Monedas
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20/20 hindsight ? I thought Robocop was a goil ! A red head too....with carrot salad in front of her hind quarters ! Monedas 2011 Comedy Jihad Avatar Deception

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 17:12 | 1805983 Freddie
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By the way, who told you ZH provided forward-looking investment advice?

Ahhh... The Robot Trader guy?  I think he loves NFLX, CROX, Krispy Kreme and Chipolte.

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:29 | 1805831 d00daa
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yeah, and you and the idiot cunt you replied to are the perfect example of what's wrong with zh:  moronic fucks who talk shit and can't back it up.  it's like you cheese dicks don't even actually read the blog, just throw out cut-and-paste "insults" to tyler et al.

fuck off and die, every single one of you.

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:54 | 1805926 Monedas
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You need to read the Comix once in a while ! Stop staring at all those charts ! Monedas 2011 Comedy Jihad Motherly Advice

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 19:20 | 1806369 Zero Govt
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d00da  -  keep taking those happy pills mate.. just drop 6 at a time and try the whole fuking box next time (your gob is big and fat enough to take it)

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:41 | 1805888 homersimpson
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All that hindsight you refer to is Robotrader. In other words, stop just reading his comments on ZH.

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 17:41 | 1806086 Prometheus418
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Didn't buy into the BAC suggestion, I see- there's still a little time, but probably not much left in it.  Could have nabbed the run from $5.50 to $7, though- not a bad ROI for a couple of weeks.

How about this one:


They've got some huge orders for production of new product lines right now, and they look like paradigm shifters.

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 17:45 | 1806094 Use of Weapons
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Zero Hedge is a financial news and information site, not an investment advisor.  Making investment decisions based on information published on Zero Hedge, or any internet site for that matter, is more than unwise, it is folly...

Zero Hedge is not a broker-dealer, legal advisor, tax advisor, investment advisor, accounting advisor or children's party clown.  (There seems to have been some confusion that these terms are interchangeable).  Relying on Zero Hedge in such a capacity will result in regulatory entanglements, civil and criminal actions naming you as a defendant, severe tax liabilities and liens from the tax authority in your jurisdiction and the horror of lax accounting standards.

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 18:27 | 1806231 Grinder74
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You forgot Midget Entertainment Specialist.  That's why the SEC hasn't come calling yet.

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 19:22 | 1806372 Belarus
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Hey, I just noticed pecent wise I'm down on this post more than NFLX is after-hours.  That's gotta be worth something, right? 


Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:26 | 1805813 Deadpool
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way to drink his milkshake, TD! Belaroos is faced!!

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:26 | 1805814 J 457
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Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:27 | 1805823 redpill
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Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:31 | 1805848 irishlink
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Apologies! Was off line for a while ,but I remember when this stock was mentioned everyday as the TRUE example of HOPIUM . I believe that before its recent slide about 4 weeks ago it was off topic for a while!? Correct me by all mean . I am here to learn .

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 17:24 | 1806038 slewie the pi-rat
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there aren't many zeroHeads who can say:

"tyler strafed my ass with a burst of seven bullets"

congratulations, irish_link! 


Mon, 10/24/2011 - 18:58 | 1806316 NotApplicable
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Not bad for a six-shooter.

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 17:57 | 1806114 caerus
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the big money is made by the sittin' and the waitin' – not the thinking...wait until all the factors
are in your favor before making the trade

-Jesse Livermore

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:34 | 1805852 Belarus
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Wasn't referring to NFLX. You nailed NFLX when you said Tilson was oh-so very right to be short in the what 200 range?

So, good job. And great job overall providing massive and truly insightful information. I'm just talking about set-ups for future articles, for the just in case scenario, that might just conflict a little for the naive reader with countless articles over the Death of the EUR, for e.g, here:


Forget The NYSE Shorts, And Be Very Afraid Of The Resumption In Bearish EUR Sentiment (And Squeeze)


See? This way, you get to be right no matter what? But it's great work. And again great f'ing job in all seriouness! Thank You! 


Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:39 | 1805881 Deadpool
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in a post about Netflix you weren't referring to NFLX. oh, ok. Tyler isn't your fucking financial advisor.

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 17:52 | 1806112 Whoa Dammit
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You're starting to sound a wee bit like Herman Cain, with the "I didn't mean what I said" routine. Hint: It's not a sucessful strategy. :-).

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 18:37 | 1806267 Grinder74
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Hey, stop being critical of  a black man you "racist"--oh wait, Cain's a Republican, never mind.

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:33 | 1805854 X.inf.capt
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Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:35 | 1805855 X.inf.capt
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double CRUSHED

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:53 | 1805923 mick
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Mon, 10/24/2011 - 18:11 | 1806145 John_Coltrane
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Some of us do read your posts and many thanks too:

That's why I bought NFLX Oct 140 puts in mid-Sept and recently rolled them to Nov 120s.  Ditto, GMCR, FSLR, OPEN, TZOO and SODA (mostly via bear put spreads-hey I'm not that greedy and fiat in a MM account isn't real anyway is it?).  Have reloaded on all of these dogs for Nov-Dec expiry.  The market moves up ~15% but these dogs continue to dive for the bottom.  I have price target for TZOO of 0.0 and FSLR could very well reach LEH type valuations.  (Yes, I was short C, LEH, MS etc. in 2008)  When will they start trading Groupon-can hardly wait to short them-after all tzoo may be on the pink sheets by then.

All you bears (not talking to Robo here but many ZHer's appear to be somewhat skeptical types-though we love Ron Paul) don't forget to get your puts on AA, ANR, RSH, and TXN for the Dec-Jan "crash" period.  Got mine today on the "rally".   I believe both Robotrader and John Paulson may be selling these puts so they can get long in these names at a discount for next year's financial bloodbath and redemption-a-thon.

And might I add, be sure to send some of your fiat profits on my suggestions to Ron Paul. 


Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:31 | 1805845 citrine
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Are you saying that 18 months advance notice is not good enough for you, you require a courteous warning a day before?

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:34 | 1805859 irishlink
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18 months would be a scary amount of time to hold a short. I am not that brave and am only too happy to admit it.

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 17:41 | 1806058 Use of Weapons
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This is probably the first time I've opinioned on a stock price, but...

If you couldn't see this one coming, you're an idiot. Due diligence? The moment Netflix split the streaming/physical subscription model and then did insane moves such as having 50% of a series streaming, 50% only physical [and no.. not in order. e.g. The Wire, which went streaming, the rest physical only]  was the moment to start shorting. Did you miss the unholy fanbase outcries? Then removing the user reviews, the user referrals, changing the GUI and so on... ANY SANE INVESTOR COULD SEE THAT MANAGEMENT WERE SCREWING UP THE BASE. The base here of course works in a geeky / lazy fashion, and will run like stampeeding wilderbeasts over a change to 'their' beloved service, unless handled professionally. When did anyone forget that the user base were lazy, self-entitled assholes?

Hedge accordingly. What do you want? A signed letter from the CEO saying "HAHAHHAHAHAHAAA... oh fuck, we have to somehow claw back gains this quarter, and we're clueless how to do it, barring the old ways that ruin companies"? Did you even stop to look over the % coverage of the market that netflix had already obtained when it IPO'd? Hint: there's a reason Blockbuster et al were going bust at the same time they IPO'd.


Oh, and I stick by my comments on the original Groupon IPO not flying way back as well, and about linkedin. Just previewed the 'revamped' IPO pitch by the new Groupon guy.. not impressed. In fact, I'd say... you'd have to be insane to buy into that.

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:45 | 1805899 homersimpson
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Looks like you drank one Guinness too many given your comment... get sober first than re-read ZH again in more detail next time.

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 17:41 | 1806089 A Man without Q...
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you should ask for a refund...

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:16 | 1805772 Dick Darlington
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We don't need no stinkin' revenue or profits, all we need is the european cdo - monoline insurer - bank recapitalisation vehicle - sovereign bail out vehicle - bond buying monster!!! It will make shit turn into gold and the neo-classical dream of eternal growth into reality starting NOW!!! And all the european sovereigns will surrender their powers to the faceless dictators in Brussels who will lead the people out of the dark into PROSPERITY!!!

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:25 | 1805804 Uncle Sam
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This guy almost turned shit into gold.

I think he works for Trichet . . .

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:38 | 1805875 Dick Darlington
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ROFLOL! He certainly works for the old fool.

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:17 | 1805775 sheeple2012
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And Reed Hastings is still unloading his shares to retarded longs every week...

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:19 | 1805779 irishlink
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Soverigns! What demented archaic world are you living in.?  We are EUROPEANS n'est ce pas?

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:25 | 1805792 FunkyMonkeyBoy
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When does the FED report it's results?

I mean, it must of spent $billions buying up Netflixs and other stocks over the past 3 years...

... and the FED must be due to report huge losses on these purchases, right?

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:23 | 1805793 LongSoupLine
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Can I stream those results to my TV or do I have to mail for them?

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:27 | 1805824 Conman
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Awww, no digg at gReed Hastings weekly programmed stock sell?

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:29 | 1805829 bob_dabolina
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This was Robotraders ALL TIME HALL OF FAME FAVs just a few months ago.

He was hound doggin' this stock

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:31 | 1805839 dwdollar
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He now claims he was touting to seek public sentiment on it and other IBD wonders.

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:32 | 1805851 bob_dabolina
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He's a Le heu seur

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:29 | 1805830 dwdollar
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NFLX is so greater fooled. On to the next Ponzi!!!

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:39 | 1805879 walküre
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Spandex pants for the hoy poloy

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:57 | 1805935 Fibz
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I'm a fitness feak, but wouldn't date a girl who wears LULU.

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 18:04 | 1806147 Arkadaba
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As a girl, would be embarrassed to wear it. 

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:29 | 1805832 DonnieD
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Hopefully he spares us the cheesy mea culpa letter this time.


Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:36 | 1805867 elcartaro
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and how about this hitting the wires today:


SEC Fines 'Dark Pool' in Undisclosed-Trading Case By JACOB BUNGE

U.S. regulators fined the operator of a so-called dark-pool trading platform Monday for allegedly running a secret affiliate business that traded against the "vast majority" of customers' stock orders and operated with unfair advantages.

Pipeline Trading Systems LLC and two executives agreed to pay $1.2 million in fines to settle charges that the firm withheld the fact that nearly all of clients' share deals on the company's private electronic markets were facilitated by a Pipeline-owned entity, according to Securities and Exchange Commission officials.

The case is the SEC's first enforcement action involving dark pools—private markets where large blocks of stock are bought and sold anonymously—and stems from a deeper SEC probe into abuses in private share dealing, according to regulators.

Dark pools are electronic markets set up for financial institutions like mutual funds and pension plans to avoid alerting the broader market to a big stock trade. If faster-moving traders discover that a major purchase is in the works, they can move the market against the institution and raise the price, making the deal more expensive.

According to the SEC, New York-based Pipeline enlisted traders of its own to make its platform look more attractive to institutional clientele—but kept the arrangement hidden from customers, who believed they were doing business with other institutions.

A complaint from the SEC on Monday said that clients of Pipeline's private market nearly all the time wound up trading with an entity called Milstream Strategy Group LLC, an affiliate of Pipeline.

Milstream, according to regulators, tried to predict what shares Pipeline's customers might buy or sell, and made similar trades on other markets before filling orders on the Pipeline platform.

The firm also traded with an edge over other participants on the market, the SEC charged, getting access to system operations and data connections that helped the entity track activity. The Milstream relationship also left confidential customer information unprotected, according to the SEC.

Institutions doing business on the platform weren't aware of any of this, the SEC said.

The set-up created a conflict of interest, according to the SEC, although traders working for Milstream were paid using a formula that rewarded them for offering favorable prices to Pipeline's customers.

"Judging from what's in the SEC allegations, this was a grave violation of customer confidence and trust," said Justin Schack, managing director of market structure analysis for Rosenblatt Securities Inc., which researches dark pool trading.

Pipeline agreed to pay a $1 million fine to settle the matter without admitting or denying the findings. Pipeline Chief Executive Fred Federspiel and Chairman Alfred Berkeley each agreed to pay fines of $100,000, also without admitting or denying the findings.

In a statement, a Pipeline spokesman said the firm was "pleased" to resolve the matter.

"The agreement will enable us to continue to provide our customers with the excellent trade execution quality and access to sources of liquidity which they have come to trust over the years," he said.

The matter is the second big action by the SEC in recent weeks to police U.S. stock markets, where dealing is nearly all electronic and fractured across dozens of exchanges, private markets and banks.

The SEC on Oct. 13 sanctioned New Jersey-based exchange company Direct Edge for two breaches of protocol in the last year, including one software misstep that left customer firms holding millions of shares' worth of unwanted positions.

The Pipeline case is the first major action taken by the SEC against a dark-pool platform and emerged from broader efforts by regulators to scrutinize off-exchange share dealing, which accounted for 28.6% of all trading through the first half of October, according to data from Raymond James Financial.

"As dark pools have become the medium for execution of a steadily increasing volume of security trades, we have sought to step up our scrutiny of the market and its participants through both examination and enforcement probes," said George Canellos, director of the SEC's New York regional office, in an interview.

Regulators continue to consider stricter rules for off-exchange trading in shares, which could require dark pools and other alternative trading platforms to provide better prices to customers, among other ideas under discussion.

Pipeline is a relatively small player among the private markets that compete with U.S. exchanges for stock trade. Rosenblatt Securities estimated that in September an average 3.1 million shares traded per day on Pipeline's systems, down 59% from September 2010.

Credit Suisse runs the busiest such venue, where 158 million shares traded last month, according to Rosenblatt figures.

—Jean Eaglesham and Brendan Conway contributed to this article.

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 17:36 | 1806072 Zer0henge
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Occupy Wall Street is headed for their offices...

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:38 | 1805874 walküre
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What else is there to say?

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:43 | 1805882 Banksters
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Robot trader is too busy trying to suck  his own dick.  I personally think that he'll break his back before he tastes his precum. Poor fucker.

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 17:32 | 1806062 Zer0henge
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Sounds like you are an old master of the art.  Now many tattoos do you have meathead?

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:45 | 1805897 irishlink
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I have come to the conclusion that anything one does not need to sustain a rreasonable quality of existance will eventually suscumb to Netflix ' fate. Only exception is anything to do with expenditure on our children . Ambercrombie will have good results and True religion. All gaming will do well for Xmas also,. Does anyone know what the new hot TOY will be?

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:46 | 1805900 Monedas
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I just finished my 30 day free trial of Netflix and love it ! Cheers, Alfred Hitchcock Presents, Twilight Zone, Rockford Files, Columbo, Paladin....of course; I've been living in my Coastal Cave on Lookout Point for 20 years ! ZH,TF, Netflix and my thermos are all I got to look forward to ! Monedas 2011 Well maybe spending the stash some day ?

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 16:57 | 1805937 jcaz
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....And this is why Cramer never wants to explain why he's REALLY not running a hedge fund anymore......

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 17:08 | 1805977 lizzy36
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Why run a hedge fund when one can get suckers to subscribe to Action Alert PLUS.

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 17:40 | 1806083 o2sd
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I'm sure he is pimping for a hedge fund (or two) though.


Mon, 10/24/2011 - 17:07 | 1805943 ebworthen
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Time to tee-up Chipotle and Green Mountain Coffee for the sandtraps and water hazards?

Other possible candidates:  SodaStream and IBM.


Mon, 10/24/2011 - 17:01 | 1805952 YesWeKahn
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Cramer will tell you to buy more.

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 17:03 | 1805960 Fluffybunny
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I remember when zerohedge was laughing at near $300 NFLX. Not so long ago.

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 17:05 | 1805965 lizzy36
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There goes EU's plan #8593 to collateralize EFSF with NFLX shares.

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 17:05 | 1805967 Do You Speak Greek
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Next on the block:


CMG and GMCR eventually but I think those 4 are imminent.  Alternately, FriendFinder Networks (AdultFriendFinder's parent) FFN is looking pretty cheap.  Time to go long swingers??

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 18:28 | 1806238 Stax Edwards
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LNKD is bubblicious! 

Dis: Short LNKD

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 17:06 | 1805971 Ruffcut
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Netflix gets the netshits.  I tink it might go back to 25 were it belonged. But priceline will go as high as gold???? Glad banks hold better value than this.

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 17:12 | 1805974 vast-dom
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Vote Biyatchez!


And stay away from etherware companies like NetFux, unless you are SHORTING!

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 17:10 | 1805975 PulauHantu29
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Piss Poor Management.

Incredibly, Sunday night prime time NetFlix was "down for maintenance"...another example of how management is out of touch:


So who bought this Dog when it was 300?

Yoohoo lists Morgue Stanley as the largest holder:


Mon, 10/24/2011 - 17:16 | 1806008 bill1102inf
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Same folks who bought physical for $2000.00/oz

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 20:37 | 1806560 PulauHantu29
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"The same folks who paid $500k for a $100k shack" is what you meant to say....

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 17:08 | 1805978 bill1102inf
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I love it when  a plan comes together.

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 17:09 | 1805980 Janice
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Bankruptcy in sight. Officers and major stockholders just got paid an average of $218 per share. Pretty good compensation for being the first rats to leave a sinking ship.

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 17:10 | 1805986 Frank N. Beans
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too funny!!

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 17:16 | 1805999 fuu
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I'm going to try and channel Robo here:

Is NFLX a "Risk Asset" or not?

 Hilarious how I'm constantly "dissed" about my comments on the relationship of NFLX vs. "Precious Metals".

Heh, all of the so-called "Experts" featured on Yahoo Message Boards and jsmineset have been dead wrong about this correlation.

But I don't think NFLX has any chance whatsoever of crashing as long as stocks continue getting ramped up.

A good economy means more NFLX buying.

Funny how so many guys here still don't get it.

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 17:34 | 1806065 slewie the pi-rat
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i'm struggling with my junk reflex, fuu

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 18:07 | 1806159 fuu
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Just relax and do what feels good.

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 21:29 | 1806747 Hephasteus
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You two are hilarous.

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 17:13 | 1806001 JW n FL
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This is just more Blogosphere ramblings..

We need Regulation of these cold hard facts being served up for the masses too see!

ALL this Blogosphere TRUTH cant be good for the lying sacks of shit trying to hustle a buck out or grandma!




Mon, 10/24/2011 - 17:28 | 1806048 Zer0henge
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How is Netflix corrupt?  Florida is the greaseball state.  Florida should be bulldozed and that should pretty much clean up the country.  Jerk.

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 21:31 | 1806752 Hephasteus
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Or at least remove half the fucking opiates and thc's from the ground water. When florida psises the whole world gets stoned.

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 17:21 | 1806027 user2011
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It's always puzzled me that Kramer can stay on for so longer.    I question about the callers of the shows.   I think they are paid callers.   Whoever follows him should be able to tell his questionable characters and his horrific track of stock picks.        His show can't be real.


Mon, 10/24/2011 - 17:42 | 1806090 o2sd
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Looks like someone just took the red pill.

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 17:53 | 1806116 the grateful un...
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his program is bundled (probably) with the CNBC package, you buy Maria you have to take Cramer. for all the bold futuristic talk about on demand cable system we are still stuck with this kind of packaging that was common in autos years ago, "but I don't want the chrome ass warmer," "gee they all have it, but okay we'll throw that in, if you take our financing.."

Mon, 10/24/2011 - 17:26 | 1806041 Zer0henge
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Poor Netflix.  What have they done to earn all this wrath here?  You people are evil trolls.

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