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Disenfranchisement.Same as all the others, worldwide.
The American nazi Party has just endorsed OWS. Message to NYPD: fire at will.
Is this what ZeroHedge likes? You bet it is.
They're developing quite a fan base...
+1. Useful idiots, each and every one.
It is a way to bring them all together. Don't we have a chemical weapons stockpile that is just sitting there gathering dust? What about those neutron bombs that leave all the buildings standing but fry the sheeple? We can get the Marxists, nazis, labor unions, smelly hippies, and garden variety socialists all in one operation.
Interesting ... seeing all the label brokers coming out at the top of the thread, foaming at the mouth ... rooting for their favourite gladiators in the biggest stage-managed circus ever! DieYouMotherFuckerDie!
The protests are valid, but ineffective. SECEDE NOW!!
lotta mouth breathing Brown Shirts showing up here these days....bankers? spooks? or just run of the mill dickheads?
"At one point the police pushed the barricades in toward the crowd, and the crowd pushed back. At another point two mounted officers moved their horses briefly into the throng."
i suppose their camels were being serviced....
What I find interesting by these crowds is their diversity. They share no common goal or ideal. This makes them incredible difficult for infiltration by agent provocateurs, as any action or opinion is seen as a minority by the American public.
Even the armchair public relations agents are having a difficult time swaying internet opinion. If I was part of the system and had something to lose I'd be kind of worried right now.
the PTB look like idiots not mingling with them don't they. It's really so easy if there's a little honesty and self-reflection: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TK5z9mwEJHQ&feature=player_detailpage of course if you don't show up just to say hi it says all the 99% needs to know what your deal is.
Wait, don't do that.
Wrong, their common goal is against Wall Street and the Greedy Banksters. That's why they went to the their houses too.
NYPD has now become the Thugs. Not the Peaceful protestors.
What 'Mayoro Bloomberg' and the NYPD want is to turn the Occupy Wall Street Crowd protest into a Rome thing.
Bloomberg and the NYPD thugs attacking innocent people walking down the street with Pepper spray and Whatever will do just that.
They are inciting the esculation of this whole thing. Occupy Wall Street. I remember when the tea party got high jacked by the Neocons of America and they brought AK's, automatic rifles and hand guns off all types to these protest. Everybody said it was their right to do. Lets get this straight. Guns are O.K. but speech is not.
If on equal footing, these people would do the same, bring guns. The difference is they are not assholes. But with Bloomberg's and NYPD's attitude at this juncture of Civil Unrest towards the corrupt Banksters of Wall Street it can turn into Civil Disobedience. Which is what many are most likely hoping for.
NYPD has become a Thug Gang and they need to take ownership and responsibility for their wrongful actions towards peaceful citizens.
Responsibility starts at the top Mayoro Bloomberg. You told your white shirts to fuck over the crowds.
It is pathetic to see all this psyops posting at ZH!! What they plan to accomplish posting here? To convince oppressed people that their evil lords are not that bad? That a horde of people fighting for their futures cannot go through a few dozens of fat pigs? hehe Are you afraid CIA punk?
THE PEOPLE are taking over. How about Occupy CIA?
You psyops agents are right to be afraid. You have not seen a thing yet. TRUTH AND FREEDOM
That's awesome that you think this way! :-)
and incredibly funny...
Same at Godlike Productions. I've never seen so much vitriol and outright obvious trolling by those most heavily vested in the current system. Tea Party haters wishing they had a real populist movement waking up on the wrong side of history. Embrace your masters in the banking/.gov cartel or die. Teh wealthy grace us with their presence and excess. Meh.
I have family that lived in Russia during the final days of the Soviet Union. What you never heard about in media was what the enforcers wound up ultimately doing to reign in beaurocrats. If our situations are as similar as I think they are the pool of enforcers will begin to shrink in 2013.
This happens because a State is a model and the harsher the enforcement becomes, the inevitable arises where the enforcers families are so affected as to turn on their masters.
This effect is avoided in smaller, resource rich nations and smaller populations. These people trolling cant wait to see the violence. They are mentally ill and largely uneducated. When and if the violence starts they will change their tunes as they begin to see how such affects their own family.
You think the sock puppets here are bad, you should hear the Mayor when he discusses OWS.
Billionaire mayor......says it all, doesn't it?
How dare OWS disturb the 'hard working Wall Street bankers'...lmao.
Don't hear too many Billionaires congratulating OWS on freedom of speech or expression......
Don't hear a squeak about the massive Wall Street Bank Bonuses...Billions in Lobbying...and so on...
There are at least two sides to every story..sad to see our MSM reporting only one side.
They have taken our houses through an illegal foreclosure process, despite not having the original mortgage.
They have taken bailouts from taxpayers with impunity, and continue to give Executives exorbitant bonuses.
They have perpetuated inequality and discrimination in the workplace based on age, the color of one’s skin, sex, gender identity and sexual orientation.
They have poisoned the food supply through negligence, and undermined the farming system through monopolization.
They have continuously sought to strip employees of the right to negotiate for better pay and safer working conditions.
They have held students hostage with tens of thousands of dollars of debt on education, which is itself a human right.
They have consistently outsourced labor and used that outsourcing as leverage to cut workers’ healthcare and pay.
They have influenced the courts to achieve the same rights as people, with none of the culpability or responsibility.
They have spent millions of dollars on legal teams that look for ways to get them out of contracts in regards to health insurance.
They have sold our privacy as a commodity.
They have used the military and police force to prevent freedom of the press. They have deliberately declined to recall faulty products endangering lives in pursuit of profit.
They determine economic policy, despite the catastrophic failures their policies have produced and continue to produce.
They have donated large sums of money to politicians, who are responsible for regulating them.
They continue to block alternate forms of energy to keep us dependent on oil.
They continue to block generic forms of medicine that could save people’s lives or provide relief in order to protect investments that have already turned a substantial profit.
They have purposely covered up oil spills, accidents, faulty bookkeeping, and inactive ingredients in pursuit of profit.
They purposefully keep people misinformed and fearful through their control of the media.
They have accepted private contracts to murder prisoners even when presented with serious doubts about their guilt.
They have perpetuated colonialism at home and abroad. They have participated in the torture and murder of innocent civilians overseas.
They continue to create weapons of mass destruction in order to receive government contracts. *
To the people of the world,
We, the New York City General Assembly occupying Wall Street in Liberty Square, urge you to assert your power.
Education is a human right? And which education would that be? The party time education or the indoctrination education?
Asking the "system" for "free" programming is ignorant. Education only has a price to convince the swarms that it represents some value and is therefore to be desired by materialistic masses.
Knowledge acquisition is a personal responibility.
it depends...it is a right if you think your entire ancestors' lifetime taxes should be going towards education instead of half of it going to wars. Also who said only educational loans cannot be discharged in bankruptcy? that' is subsidy to banksters who get to use government power to their own advantage. So some idiot can buy 4 homes with no money down then just walk away with only 7 years of credit damage but a college kid becomes an indentured servant when he educates himself to become a more productive member of society? Sure, there should be quality education but you can do that by controlling colleges and admission but by loans to 18year olds.
don't you get your k-12 "free"? why only some education and not the other? why is only some knowledge acquisition a personal responsibility?
It is all about nation's priorities. government has plenty of money. Right now it is going to support neocon's objectives in eurasia for the already wealthy. And Kock brothers don't want college kids...they want ignorant soldiers who will die for oil. But worst of all, citizens brainwashed into thinking that they deserve less than a fair shot at happiness.
@Hi Ho Silver: Don't throw the baby out with the bath water! ... that's a pretty comprehensive list that covers nearly every grievance against the government and big corporations - of all sides of the political spectrum.
As with any compromise/consensus (including the US Constitution!), there will be things that each party to it will be unhappy with ... but, IF it gets any mainstream publicity by the presstitutes, it will strike a chord with the sheeple. That is a good thing.
FWIW, education of children IS a human right ... it's just that some of us think it is the responsibility of the parent to either provide it personally (by home schooling) or pay for it (by sub-contracting it to a school/teacher).
I copied the list into Excel and examined each point individually on its merits. I posted a comment on the one I disagree with. No baby out with the bath water. But a bunch of lazy students demanding free education (<== perception if not reality) compromises the integrity of the list.
For my views on child education see my reply to Ben Dover.
Thanks for the reply. I saw your comment below and understand [now] that we are on the same page there.
As for the others, I disagree with 4 out of the 21 points, but still think it is a good list that addresses many of my other concerns with government (since the corporations only do what government allows them to do -- either through legislation or negligence). I'd probably find more to disagree with on Ron Paul's ticket than 4 out of 21, given his vagueness on some issues.
Pretty much the whole list we call the "Bill of Rights" were not rights before they were seized. You get rights the moment you have the power to take them and keep so so long as you have the power to hold them.
But the rights idea aside, it is a really good idea to educate your people. You need a populace with a clue in order to keep pace with the rest of the world.
The U.S. populous is pretty well educated. They still don't have a clue.
Whether we are keeping pace with the rest of the world is a matter for debate.
Homeschool your children and teach them knowledge acquisition is a personal responsibility or suffer the consequences for ceding your parental responsibilities to the State.
Teach them how to think or the State will teach them what to think.
I completely agree with everything you wrote in that list. Well said.
The more Obama and the Democratic party endorse the OWS the more I am adverse to supporting them. If both political parties were against OWS, well.. maybe then I could take it more seriously and support it.
That is why I like the original TEA party (not the co-opted neo-con TEA partiers). The Dems hate them and the establishment Repubs are afraid of them. Which indicates they are on the right path.
Yes, it sounds to be great...
OCCUPY the CIA, Pentagon, Capitol and White House and the banskters' dens in NYC will be great.
For the UK part, the "City of London" is a must.
After all the ultimate felons are J & J. One is the Holy See's most powerful gang, and to name the other one will be violating the anti-Semitic laws in many parts of the Western domains :D
the ultimate felons are J & J
the ultimate felons are J & J
And when the Js we can talk about (but nobody does) occupy the capital of the Js we can't talk about (but everybody does), I'll be shocked, I tell you, shocked!!
Paraphrasing Lenin of course.
I think it was Stalin.
Distinction without a difference...I have complete confidence the final commisar victim will not care as to the source.
Who is Lenin? Sorry, I went to public schools....
fuck you pseudo libertarian fascist.
when the guilotines come, your head will be there too! baby!
Speaking of my head, your mom usually gives it. Baby!
best you can do? What is this, some chatroom? GTFO.
Wow. Useful and idiotic.
Unlike the electric chair, the guillotine is green.
not in my book. and since we're talking pretty much every City on the planet don't let the numbers fool ya. Then again...by all means do! Anywho...these folks understand that until you do something we're all just road kill. the good news is no one is talking to them directly (since what grievances could those little people possibly have!.) interestingly there appears to be an intelligence at work as well. An "occupation." Interesting. Another word for a "job."
well probably most of communists and nazis are part of 99.9% rather than 0.1% and have the right to get pissed off.
American communist and nazis alike feel that "they got sold out while banks got bailed out" which is true. Tea party folks too agree on that so they should be marching out there as well, but somehow they focus more on gun, gods, and gays now. Politics makes strange bed fellows.
To their credit, they didn't crash the economy and is holding rest of us hostage.
only benefit are executive leadership of bailed out institutions who get to keep their power and the game going.
ZEROHEDGE is just reporting what MSM IS NOT, you idiot! Why don´t you OCCUPY yourself doing something possitive instead of trolling here?!
Damn Trolls are like roaches. Just when you think you have got rid of them they come out of the woodwork like banksters on an IPO.
The ADL has been at OWS from the begining and says they see no signs of anti semitism.
Isn't the Nazi Party just the GOP playing dress up?
Israel had massive protests prior to OWS. OWS has a lot of non-wall st Jews who are fed up and waking up to reality as well.
anti-semitism is not the issue when it comes to the real issue....wealth. the haves and have nots.
NYPD must be giddy! Nothing like shooting hippie scum in a punch bowel, so much better than tactical arms training on 3/4 inch plywood dummies...let it rip!
Most, but not all the posters here that received more than 10 red arrow junks showed up here 30 weeks ago.
Strange days indeed!
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