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Paul Ryan Factbox, Nomination Reaction And Lifetime Donors

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Reuters summarizes the key facts about the 42-year old House Budget Chair and potential future American vice president.

  • Ryan, 42, a rising star among the populist Tea Party movement and fiscal conservatives who dominate the Republican Party, has served seven terms in the U.S. House of Representatives since first being elected in 1998.
  • Ryan attracted attention when, as chairman of the powerful House Budget Committee, offered a controversial plan in January 2010 to reform the tax code and eliminate the federal deficit. The plan relies on tax cuts and would minimize federal spending while drastically overhauling Medicare, the popular government-run health program for the elderly.
  • Romney endorsed that plan during the primaries, and by adding the Wisconsin congressman to the ticket, he makes the document the centerpiece of his run for the White House and raises the possibility that much of the campaign debate will be about spending, deficits and Medicare, rather than job creation.
  • Ryan could help Romney gain ground in his home state of Wisconsin, a battleground state that seems to be leaning toward Obama after a polarizing battle over the unsuccessful recall of the state's Republican Governor Scott Walker.
  • But because of Ryan's plan to cut Medicare, Romney also runs the risk of alienating seniors, a group that has narrowly backed Republicans in recent elections.
  • Before being elected to Congress, Ryan was an aide to conservative U.S. Senator Sam Brownback of Kansas and has worked with U.S. Senator Robert Kasten of Wisconsin. Ryan also worked for former New York congressman and one-time Vice Presidential candidate Jack Kemp. These experiences make him a creature of Congress - a political body that has become increasingly unpopular among voters in recent years.
  • Ryan is a fifth-generation Wisconsin resident. He grew up in Janesville before attending college at Miami University in Ohio. His father and grandfather died of heart attacks in their 50s, making him mindful of a healthy lifestyle and he exercises frequently.

And here are select reactions from various individuals across the political spectrum to his nomination:


"Governor Mitt Romney made a bold and reform-minded selection in Congressman Paul Ryan of Wisconsin. This election has to be about who is going to look out for the next generation. America needs a comeback team to turn around the economy and to turn around the fiscal status of our country. Romney and Ryan have the ideas and the experience needed to take on these core issues. This is a great day for Wisconsin and an even greater day for America."


"In naming Congressman Paul Ryan, Mitt Romney has chosen a leader of the House Republicans who shares his commitment to the flawed theory that new budget-busting tax cuts for the wealthy, while placing greater burdens on the middle class and seniors, will somehow deliver a stronger economy. ... As a member of Congress, Ryan rubber-stamped the reckless Bush economic policies that exploded our deficit and crashed our economy. Now the Romney-Ryan ticket would take us back by repeating the same, catastrophic mistakes."


"Like Governor Romney, Congressman Ryan understands that government doesn't create jobs, people do, and that the best way to create jobs is to get government out of the way. I'm confident that Congressman Ryan will be a great partner for Governor Romney in getting America back to work."


"Tea Party Patriots welcomes the selection of Paul Ryan as the vice-presidential running mate for Governor Mitt Romney. With this selection, Governor Romney and the Republican Party make it clear that they have accepted the Tea Party Patriots' values of fiscal responsibility, limited government and free markets as the best course of action for economic recovery and restoring personal freedom and individual responsibility to our national values."


"Representative Ryan has made a name for himself by fighting in the halls of Congress for tax giveaways for the wealthy and big corporations while proposing to gut vital services like Medicare and education, and eliminating any sense of retirement security for working families. His no-holds-barred record of attacking seniors, children, and working men and women is frightening for the 99 percent of Americans who are not rich -- but for Mitt Romney it was a calling card to choose him as a running mate."


"Mitt Romney has made a great choice in Paul Ryan. He is an accomplished public servant and a leading voice on the most pressing issues facing our country. Paul is one of my best friends in Congress and someone I have worked closely with as a former colleague on the House Ways and Means Committee."


"Congressman Ryan is a respected leader and a bold thinker regarding the changes needed to restore America. His selection will also help Governor Romney win the key swing state of Wisconsin. I am excited about a Romney-Ryan ticket and look forward to doing all I can to help them win this election."


"Congressman Paul Ryan is an outstanding choice as our country's next vice president, and today's announcement demonstrates Governor Romney's commitment to returning fiscal sanity back to Washington, D.C. I have long supported Paul Ryan's fiscal and entitlement reforms to return our country back on a path of fiscal health. At a time when our country is at an economic crossroads, Congressman Ryan's depth of knowledge on how to tackle these challenges is unparalleled. ... He is solidly pro-life, pro-family, and will be an advocate for our military and our national security priorities. I look forward to supporting the Romney-Ryan ticket in the weeks to come."


"Whether its outsourcing American jobs or picking his running mate, Mitt Romney's proven just how bad his decision making is for working people. Aligning himself with the poster-child for ending Medicare and Social Security puts to rest any suggestion that Romney has a clue what the middle-class needs. We're witnessing the radical Tea Party extremes drive its final nail in what was once the Republican Party."


"Paul is a good friend and one of the smartest guys I served with in Congress. He has the courage of his convictions, which is what our nation needs."


"By picking Representative Paul Ryan, Governor Romney has doubled down on his commitment to gut Social Security and end Medicare as we know it. Romney's choice demonstrates that catering to the Tea Party and the far-right is more important to him than standing up for the middle class. The months ahead will provide Americans with a clear choice between the Romney-Ryan plan to gut Social Security and Medicare and Democrats' balanced approach to deficit reduction that combines smart spending cuts with asking millionaires and billionaires to pay their fair share. Democrats in the Senate look forward to engaging in that debate."


"There is no question that former Governor Romney now owns the Republican Ryan budget that puts millionaires ahead of Medicare and the middle class. Congressman Paul Ryan led House Republicans in voting to end the Medicare guarantee, which increases costs on seniors and weakens America's great middle class in order to give tax breaks to millionaires, Big Oil and corporations that ship jobs overseas."


"Romney and Ryan are the 1 percent Dream Team. Representative Paul Ryan is an extremist ideologue who wants to end Medicare, radically redistribute wealth to the top 1 percent, and throw America's middle class under the bus. Ryan's proposed budget would cost America more than a million jobs in less than one year. Like Romney, Ryan believes the poor and middle class should pay more so the rich can get richer. Romney's choice of Ryan is sure to energize MoveOn's more than 7 million members as we work to ensure voters know the truth about Romney and Ryan's extreme plans to demolish Medicare, raise middle class taxes to fund tax cuts for billionaires, and destroy jobs."

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Finally, from Open Secrets, here is a list of the industry support for Paul Ryan throughout his career, and his oppoent, Joe Biden.


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Sat, 08/11/2012 - 10:17 | 2696981 Ivanovich
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Meet the new boss same as the old.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 10:23 | 2697002 Gully Foyle
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"His father and grandfather died of heart attacks in their 50s, making him mindful of a healthy lifestyle and he exercises frequently."

Nothing trumps bad genetics.

Odds are he will have a heart attack while exercising.


Sat, 08/11/2012 - 10:27 | 2697016 LawsofPhysics
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"Genetics" are not real, so there,


Signed,  The GOP.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 10:31 | 2697029 Gully Foyle
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I'm pretty sure the GOP understand genetics to be real. And support life saving science.

All benefit from the money pumped into medicine.

Both sides suffer from medical fallacies, but in the end they all face the same choices.

In the end they all make the same compromises.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 10:40 | 2697067 LawsofPhysics
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Riiiiiiggggghhhht, just like they believe in other science.  You can't pick and choose, that's not how it works.  Evolution not real, but genetics (the science behind evolution) is real.  Good luck with that cognative dissonance.   Oh yeah, guess what, those scientists don't work for free either.

Too bad the "money" you mention typically doesn't make it to the scientists or doctors or nurses, atlas continues to shrug.

Bloody sheep.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 10:48 | 2697099 CClarity
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So . . . . basically, Ryan has only been a Congress rat for his life post college.  And this is supposed to make me feel like he is "in touch"?

I do like tax overhaul concepts and wonder if the Wisonsin angle will bring "pension reform" along.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 10:54 | 2697120 LawsofPhysics
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The truth is that the TBTF banks stole the pensions of the people of wisconsin and yet Ryan is their "golden boy".  Ryan even voted to bail the same banks out and GM too.  The best part is he has voted in favor of no oversight when the free money was sent to bail the TBTF out.

These people should have sent this guy to the guillotine long ago. 

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 11:46 | 2697261 razorthin
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They continue to steal even defined contribution pensions by the Fed's "liquidity" - leading to fund churning and fee skimming.  Not to mention negative growth of NAV's.  Money market funds are now net negative performers (not even accounting for real inflation).  Furthermore, they have the balls to dissuade the individual from trying to avoid balance destruction during market down-legs by imposing "excessive trading" policies.  Please, it is much worse than we could collectively express.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 11:53 | 2697322 Manthong
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Perception is reality..

He will buy the PTB time.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 12:49 | 2697467 phyuckyiu
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If Christie was chosen I might have paid attention to this election. As it is, Ryan will cost many female voters and moderates. So now there is no voice of common sense on the ticket, just career blowhards. Yawn.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 14:51 | 2697616 The Big Ching-aso
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"He won't make a phucking lick-o-difference as to the outcome of the phucking train wreck."

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 15:19 | 2697651 Michael
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Revenge votes for Obama is the solution. Black balling Dr Ron Paul was not a smart move this time.

No self respecting Ron Paul supporter will vote for Mitt Romney since he is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Rothschild's and Rockefeller banksters just as Obama is.

The Presidency is a wholly owned subsidiary of the international banking cartel, multi national corporations, and Goldman Sachs/JP Morgan.

Many millions of Ron Paul supporters like me will be voting directly for Obama in November in a political strategy so we can get a real Liberty candidate on the ballot in 2016.

If you don't like Obama next year, then impeach him for illegally attacking Libya, gun running fast and furious, and being disqualified for his forged birth certificate.

Fox news is an infomercial for the republicans and the GOP. MSNBC is an infomercial for the democrats, and ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN are left leaning, brainwashing, social engineering scum. Try not to get your news from them.

What's Romney gonna give me? Will he cancel the TSA/government 750 million hollow point bullet order, abolish NDAA and the Patriot act? Then fuck him.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 15:51 | 2697708 DaveyJones
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I love my choice of candidates this year. One is connected with el salvadoran death squads and the other orders superconstitutional drone murders. Can I take my ball and go home?

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 16:08 | 2697732 Flakmeister
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Sorry.... To quote an American Poet

"No one gets out of here alive..."

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 18:27 | 2697926 WhyDoesItHurtWh...
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Shucks, I was hoping Romney would pick this guy ...........

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 16:54 | 2699227 AldousHuxley
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look at who is donating to BOTH:


  • old fucks on welfare
  • securities & investment banksters
  • health professionals....doctors who don't compete on market labor
  • lawyers.... liars who want their cushy job
Sat, 08/11/2012 - 22:28 | 2698151 defencev
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What's Romney gonna give me? Will he cancel the TSA/government 750 million hollow point bullet order, abolish NDAA and the Patriot act? Then fuck him.

  And if you got what you want how would it improve your fucking, miserable life?

Marxist regime which will be the logical outcome of Obama reelection will abolish 2016 elections anyway. And shits like you will be put in Gulag and summariy executed. I guess, you would not care about TSA at that point.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 00:00 | 2698272 Harbanger
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He's a shill for Obama telling people he's for RP, we have his number.  Paul Ryan like Ron Paul are both firm believers in Austrian economics.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 13:11 | 2698844 Michael
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When the mainstream media virtually completely stopped covering Dr Paul, making their ratings drop to the floor when they chose Rombama, and not that they covered Paul much at all before, Right then I chose to vote directly for Obama using a new political strategy never used before. It will work.


I don't have to explain myself, I'm well known on ZH.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 23:19 | 2698215 Harbanger
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How much do they pay you to post this shit.  You posted the same thing 3 times.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 17:35 | 2697865 CompassionateFascist
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Chris Christie, the human bowling ball. In a VP debate, he'd have crushed Biden.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 23:11 | 2698201 Theosebes Goodfellow
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WTF are you talking about? Who said Biden is making it onto the ticket this year? The only reason Obama got saddled with him is that the DNC wasn't quite ready to turn a brother loose in the WH with a Hispanic lesbian as his Veep. This year though.... But a wet sack of freakin' petunias could out-debate Biden! Hell, the boy's a walking blunder every time he opens his mouth. Obama probably saw him as an insurance policy, thinking nobody would dare shoot him lest Biden become president, which is pretty crafty for a former foreign exchange student. Pulleeeeaaaasseeee.....

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 23:23 | 2698221 phyuckyiu
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Sadly, Biden has more charisma than Paul Ryan. Which is like saying a snail is cooler than a slug, because it has a shell.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 22:58 | 2698188 kliguy38
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Chubbie could have made a difference......just like Obomney will make a still don't get it so that means you never took the blue pill so go ahead and dream little child

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 23:19 | 2698214 phyuckyiu
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For clarification I did comment further down "So our choices this year are the Bush Cabal Fuck or the Agenda 21 Fuck. Nice choices." All I said is it would have made me pay attention. Now I won't even bother to check what anyone has to say. My sincere apologies for attempting to give a shit.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 16:35 | 2697773 LMAOLORI
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Obama voted to bail out the banks too the only one running who didn't was Romney. Not to mention there were ZERO prosecutions under obama.



OBAMA: Senate Must Pass Bailout, "Do What's Right for the Country"



Sat, 08/11/2012 - 17:29 | 2697853 malek
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How can one steal something that never existed in the first place?
You know, like empty promises backed by nothing?

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 19:17 | 2697981 OpenThePodBayDoorHAL
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Triple FAIL:

1. Announces on the deck of a battleship. This only appeals to his redneck warmonger base, everyone else is sick of wars. Politically completely tone deaf. FAIL.

2. Picks Paul Ryan. Divisive, nasty little fucker. Too young to take the top spot if required. Again, good for the "base" but does nothing to reach out to moderate independents who will decide this thing. Again, policially tone deaf, as we always knew Mitt and Co were. FAIL.

3. Fumbles the announcement  "...I want to introduce the next PRESIDENT..." etc. This shit counts fer chrissakes Willard, how inept can you get. FAIL.

Willard = John Kerry. Shit, this means four more years of Obomba...

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 09:07 | 2698557 Bendromeda Strain
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3. Fumbles the announcement  "...I want to introduce the next PRESIDENT..." etc. This shit counts fer chrissakes Willard, how inept can you get. FAIL.

How inept can you get? Good question. How inept can YOU get? FAIL

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 00:06 | 2698277 HarryM
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How does the Ryan plan stack up against the Joe Biden Plan?

Maybe Romney should pick a brainless idiot like Joe Biden - Is Billy Carter still alive?

At least the Ryan plan will move the conversation about our economic disaster in the right direction.



Sat, 08/11/2012 - 21:19 | 2698044 TURBO
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I'd prefer being a Congress Rat (your words) as opposed to just being a Rat. (let me see Obama's college transcripts; and how he was admitted as a Foreign Student).

Fiscal conservatism (as opposed to blowing another $5 Trillion) makes sense to anyone w/ an education Right of Krugman. Tough decisions are ahead, agreed. Problem is Libs don't want to discuss ANY meaningful cuts whatsoever.

"From my house I can see November".  ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 !!


Sat, 08/11/2012 - 12:34 | 2697431 The-Dirty-Scurd
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Evolution is not proven but a collection of theories. Genetics are the basis for those who believe in designed life as well. There is a difference between animals becoming different species and animals adapting to environments. There is a lot of "science" opposing evolution but let us use our common sense for a moment. If evolution were true then where are all the in-between species right now? Like the half-man half fishes, or the next step species? Or will you use the its a genetic mutation every so often arguement? In that case in every mutation in genes that can actually be proven(that happens naturally not some GMO frankenstien) it is a defect that leads to the animal/plant being less able to survive. GMO are manipulated by intelligence(albeit not very much), I wont get into the pesticides and such but rather when it does seem to work it is by design not a random act. Random mutations are negative and caused by disease or chemicals and so on. Also, in the bible dinosaurs are mentioned in
Job. When God shows Job the age before when dinos were around and the firmament was protecting the earth from the uv rays before the flood, made a greenhouse or perfect setting for large animals. I digress, they are described in detail. Thier tails being the size of trees, not just any type of tree either but the big kind. How when they drank they drank a river, or how no trap was big enough to snare them. Thier necks were long and big enough to reach the tree tops. Is there any animals walking aroudn today that fits this description? No. Elephants have tiny tails, giraffes have tiny tails, hippos have tiny tails, all can be trapped or snared. You get the idea.

And you're right money is never the scientists and no scientist was rich or had neough money to do thier research. They have always had backers like kings, emperors, govts, corporation and so on. What happens if a scientist doesnt get the results they like? They axe it. What if a scientist get a result that does not go along with the backers agenda? They own it, self it and hide it from the public. I find it contradictory to call people sheep but yet make a slogan or catch phrase from an obvious piece of propaganda like atlas shrugged saying "atlas continues to shrug".

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 12:53 | 2697472 phyuckyiu
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Great, so now the Ryan turds are going to start spewing their evolution is false bullshit all over everything, meanwhile genes just magically choose what to do with god's grace without any natural selection. Thank god I killed my tv so I don't have to listen to you Paultards (yes we can use it on different people now).

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 22:53 | 2698182 rambo1028
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+1 for a fitting use of paultard

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 23:25 | 2698226 phyuckyiu
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My downvotes are a sad day for science, but hey.... Brawndo has electrolytes!

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 12:55 | 2697473 LawsofPhysics
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Nothing  in science is ever "proven", in fact electricity is still "just a theory".  Sorry did you have a fucking point, I dosed off during your storytelling.

Results are results, interpretation (why peer review is important) is something else.  

Many have tried to shoot down the theory that is evolution intentionally  that is what good science does.  It still stands, 150 years later, even electrical theory is not that old, nor has it actually held - go read some primary literature on the higgs particles.  

Thanks for playing, bloody sheep.  Don't bother educating yourself, it makes it easier to profit from your left/right mentality and ignorance.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 14:29 | 2697599 PiratePawpaw
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"Electricity is just a theory"?.....................Shocking!

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 14:34 | 2697602 James_Cole
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Please for love of God not another evolution is false argument. Such arguments should never be held outside of preschool and church (two intellectually compatible institutions).

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 19:44 | 2698000 Deo vindice
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"Please for love of God..."

The irony of your opening statement is utterly priceless!

Any evolutionist that cannot defend his/her position outside of preschool or church ought to immediately abandon it.

Evolutionists are the liberal-left of intellectualism. Yell loud and drown out any contrary voice and then brag about being the only one that is really 'heard'.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 20:18 | 2698021 nmewn
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It is a lot like screaming out for God's mercy when staring into the gaping maw of a pissed off Momma bear isn't it?

An evolutionist would have say the odds of God hearing them are, 1010123

So why bother? ;-)

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 21:24 | 2698075 James_Cole
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"The irony of your opening statement is utterly priceless!"


"Evolutionists are the liberal-left of intellectualism. Yell loud and drown out any contrary voice and then brag about being the only one that is really 'heard'"

Denying evolution is up there with Earth is flat & astronauts never landed on the moon - not worth arguing with people so ignorant.

"600 Darwin Dissenters signing the A Scientific Dissent From Darwinism represent about 0.054% of the estimated 1,108,100 biological and geological scientists in the US in 1999."

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 01:39 | 2698357 Likstane
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I suggest "In the Beginning; Compelling Evidence for Creation and the Flood" by Walt Brown, Ph.D.   Walt Brown has a standing offer for a written debate to decide the question, Does the scientific evidence favor creation of evolution?  One of the rules is a prohibition of use of religious materials. 

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 03:02 | 2698402 James_Cole
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Why would anyone non-religious want to use religious materials in a debate over evolution? When someone is explaining the theory of gravity there's no need to bring up Santa Claus.

Having not heard of Walt Brown before (apparently he's big in the creation science movement whatever nonsense that is) I searched him and came up with a very funny video of him explaining his "Hydroplate Theory."

The fun thing with people who believe in fairy tales is they always start with the fairy tale and then work backward to find "theories" which support said myth. And this always results in amusing explanations.

Here's a question to ask Dr. Brown, why is the fossil record so darned' organized?? He'd doubtless come up with a hilarious "theory" to explain how different lifeforms simultaneously were buried across disparate geographical regions all at the exact same moment, one group after the next. Very clever God!

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 06:20 | 2698471 malikai
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You just shut up now and give all your money to the Catholic church. Redemtion will set you free, heathen!

Also, you wasted too many characters writing that up. Logical arguments are no match for the big smiling guy in the sky.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 16:01 | 2697720 XenoFrog
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Nice troll job.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 17:40 | 2697874 CompassionateFascist
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Xeno Frog is proof that evolution reverse.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 09:46 | 2698603 Bendromeda Strain
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CompassionateFascist is proof that selection gets tired and skips people.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 10:47 | 2697095 blobbus
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You know those fossils in the ground? They really arent that older than Genesis. God put them there to test our faith!


Sat, 08/11/2012 - 12:40 | 2697449 The-Dirty-Scurd
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The bible says they are older than Genesis but so many folks dont actually read or study it. they listen to soothsayers and liars. which is all described in there as well. most so-called christian religions are infiltrated just like any other religion(only two are not philadelphia and symrna). Jude is a good and short description of how certain men crept in unawares(to the sleeping masses) and nfiltrated politics, religion, govts, so-called science fields and economies. lying, cheating and subverting.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 12:55 | 2697476 phyuckyiu
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Ahh yes, I'm sure all the literal bible readers are going to be a huge boon for this ticket. Paultards unite!

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 14:34 | 2697605's picture

If nothing else your discourse has proven that the process of willful devolution proceeds unabashed.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 14:54 | 2697635 10mm
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+1 Dirty.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 15:05 | 2697648 kornholio
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Sat, 08/11/2012 - 20:14 | 2698018 Obadiah
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Keep singing it Dirty, you got it right, keep bangin out the TRUTH out there.

Evolutions Trolls Question : Just who the fuck came up with this theory of evolution?  Are you serious that you believe that shit.


Learn the real Truth:  Spend the next 30 minutes of your life listening to ex-marine whos an expert in the WORD of GOD, read word for word.  Make it a habit and learn that we ARE in the end times and what the Creator has to say about it.  Will you be on the right side or wrong it YOUR CHOICE.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 23:36 | 2698243 phyuckyiu
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Wow so not only did this wave of Paultards break on ZH's beach, they are actually going to attempt to spew religious bullshit, including links, all over the board. I guess it is testament to how important ZH has become that they feel the need to pontificate here.


You know who had it right about religion? Fucking DR. GENE SCOTT, that's who! Anyone who spends millions of their congregants dollars buying all the old Gnostic bibles from 200 AD, and actually lecturing about their contents (it's a shame about the 1 Billion arrows on the chalkboard, but you can't get it all your way at Burger King), now that is one crazy fuck worth listening to. And all that crazy fuck ever said was that the Coptics and the Gnostics and the Russian and Greek Orthodox are the only ones left not following a bastardized, completely perverted bible and mass. RIP DR. GENE SCOTT.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 01:38 | 2698356 Buckaroo Banzai
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You're a mean-spirited douchebag.

Evolution is a "theory" because it can't be empirically proven in any way.

We don't have a "theory" of gravity, we made it a LAW of gravity because its effects can be reliably measured and predictably duplicated under controlled conditions.

Since we don't have access to a "control universe" to suitably test the THEORY of evolution, it remains just that, a theory.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 09:12 | 2698558 Bendromeda Strain
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Messenger RNA writes itself, like most inane ZH comments. You are to be commended for attempting to reason with fools.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 13:36 | 2698872 James_Cole
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Did people not make it through grade school or what??

It has always been THE THEORY OF GRAVITY. Which is why we use relativity now rather than Newton's inaccurate law. 

Having a GED could help a lot of people on here. 

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 11:30 | 2700882 TURBO
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Nancy Pelosi is proof that evolution is not an exact science.

fyi: Buck Banzai, loved that movie  : )

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 12:08 | 2697375 Nobody For President
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In the end, we are all dead.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 16:13 | 2697740 smlbizman
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around here we like to say...."on a long enough timeline the survival rate for everyone drops to zero"....

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 11:03 | 2697143 Landrew
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Sat, 08/11/2012 - 11:30 | 2697255 Dapper Dan
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Here we are? From

Taxes On The Rich

Ryan has consistently argued that the rich ought to pay low taxes so that they can stimulate growth and economic mobility by creating jobs and investing their wealth. Yet studies show that income mobility in the United States is actually considerably lower than in many other industrialized countries. According to data gathered by the Economic Mobility Project, "in America, you’re more likely to stay rich if born rich, and stay poor if born poor, than you are in most European countries." [40]


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  • Northwestern Mutual $70,300
  • National Beer Wholesalers Assn $70,000
  • AT&T Inc $65,350
  • National Auto Dealers Assn $63,500
  • National Assn of Home Builders $62,500
  • Koch Industries $60,500
  • Natl Assn/Insurance & Financial Advisors $60,000
  • American Bankers Assn $51,045
  • Blue Cross/Blue Shield $48,650
  • Carpenters & Joiners Union $47,500
  • United Parcel Service $47,443
  • Abbott Laboratories $47,250
  • Associated General Contractors $46,200
  • Investment Co Institute $45,999
  • National Assn of Realtors $44,560
  • Credit Suisse Group $44,200
  • Massachusetts Mutual Life Insurance $41,200
  • SC Johnson & Son $41,092
  • PricewaterhouseCoopers $38,693
  • American Hospital Assn $36,025
Sat, 08/11/2012 - 11:38 | 2697277 Raymond K Hessel
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Troll....I hate it when OFA trolls seed this site with partisan crap. I hate all partisan crap.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 12:02 | 2697354 Dapper Dan
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 Raymond, if that is directed at me, I am deeply affronted.

I also hate partisan "crap"

Here is Joe Bidens friends,

Top 5 Contributors, 2001-2006, Campaign Cmte Contributor Total Indivs PACs Simmons Cooper LLC $161,550 $161,550 $0 Pachulski, Stang et al $161,125 $161,125 $0 Law Offices of Peter G Angelos $107,500 $107,500 $0 Young, Conaway et al $98,525 $98,525 $0 Baron & Budd $96,500 $96,500 $0 ...view more data
Top 5 Industries, 2001-2006, Campaign Cmte Industry Total Indivs PACs Lawyers/Law Firms $3,308,583 $3,293,147 $15,436 Real Estate $515,675 $513,175 $2,500 Securities & Investment $425,550 $425,550 $0 Retired $390,485 $390,485 $0 Misc Finance $242,990 $242,990  

Real Estate and Investment? odd that R/E and "investment" show up on all politicians contributors list, regardless of their red or blue coat.

 Quis custodiet ipso custodes?

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 12:26 | 2697418 divide_by_zero
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It would be more accurate to use Obama's funding then highlight, Kirkland has a heavy Soros tie in as do several others

1 University of Chicago     $152,654 $152,654
2 Kirkland & Ellis                $143,388 $135,055
3 Simmons Cooper LLC        $120,500 $120,500
4 Tejas Securities Group    $105,740 $105,740
5 Skadden, Arps et al       $104,196 $101,696
6 Sidley Austin LLP         $103,932 $103,432
7 Henry Crown & Co          $89,500 $89,500
8 Exelon Corp               $84,100 $66,600 
9 Goldman Sachs             $82,800 $82,800
10 SNR Denton               $75,250 $70,250
11 Jenner & Block           $74,710 $74,210
12 Mayer Brown LLP          $74,460 $74,460
13 Northwestern University  $70,430 $70,430
14 DLA Piper                $62,675 $46,975
15 Soros Fund Management    $61,605 $61,605
16 Winston & Strawn         $59,499 $51,700 
17 Clifford Law Offices     $57,550 $57,550
18 JPMorgan Chase & Co      $56,807 $52,807 
19 Ariel Capital Management $56,650 $56,650 
20 City of Chicago, IL      $50,945 $50,945 

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 13:13 | 2697506 LawsofPhysics
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Funny how GS and JPM are now behind Mittens.  That's a good sheep, left...right...left...right...

soon you will be marching off to war.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 13:50 | 2697550 Offthebeach
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Long live the FIRE/Fiat economy!

( Hey, you want to charge your homeowner policy on the spec house you bought with a bank note?)

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 12:27 | 2697419 Red Heeler
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You might be right. Jim Fixx, the guy who started the jogging craze back in the 70s, died of a heart attack while jogging.


Sat, 08/11/2012 - 19:05 | 2697967 knukles
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Well that fixxes that now, doesn't it?

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 10:35 | 2697042 rwe2late
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Paul Ryan voted FOR:

The Iraq war resolution


NDAA authorizing indefinite detention

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 10:43 | 2697083 JR
JR's picture

Voted NO on monitoring TARP funds to ensure more mortgage relief. (Jan 2009)

Voted YES on $15B bailout for GM and Chrysler. (Dec 2008)

Voted NO on regulating the subprime mortgage industry. (Nov 2007)

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 10:48 | 2697093 LawsofPhysics
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Yes, please, Ryan supporters need to address the voting record.

Bloody sheep.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 11:03 | 2697146 Everybodys All ...
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The most important vote is about whether you want to continue forward with a marxist outcome or not.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 11:12 | 2697180 LawsofPhysics
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LMFAO!!!!  Which ticket (other than Ron Paul) isn't fascist and marxist?  You are beyond stupid and will get precisely what you vote for.

I will hedge accordingly, it is all one can really do anyway. 

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 11:23 | 2697228 Everybodys All ...
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Typical of the liberal mindset to call someone stupid who disagrees.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 11:51 | 2697317 LawsofPhysics
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So, you are self identifying as a troll?  Thanks,

I am not a liberal and your response (once again) lacks any intelligence, so this one's free;

Here's a novel concept, how about letting bad business models (in both sectors) FAIL?  How about the next time a company is driven into the fucking ground, the owners, management and shareholders pay back the creditors, and not the fucking taxpayer.

Here, I'll qualify the statement for you, you are beyond stupid if you don't think this is a good idea.  Let the voting begin.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 12:25 | 2697415 BurningFuld
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As a small business owner I am in total agreement with LawsofPhysics.  AND against those greedy I know better than you life time career politicians and their ilk. Fuck 'em.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 12:58 | 2697479 phyuckyiu
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So our choices this year are the Bush Cabal Fuck or the Agenda 21 Fuck. Nice choices.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 13:15 | 2697512 LawsofPhysics
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no you can still wrirte in ron Paul.  I wonder how long before you can't do that though?  Can't be long now.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 19:40 | 2697998 mbarido
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Here in Texas, unless at least one third party candidate gets on the November Ballet as a write-in, it is over, Texans will be unable to write in Ron Paul. Per county voting officials.

Make no mistake, no write-in, no vote by me.  I WAS 60 on July 26, 1952, and I have voted every general election since I could first vote at 20 (overseas absentee twice)

No write-in for the only man that has any idea of the constitution or sound money, and I am out of here quickly.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 20:27 | 2698027 Urban Roman
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Wow, so you're 120 now?

Tue, 08/14/2012 - 11:43 | 2703901 mbarido
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Must be troll - cannot do math

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 13:17 | 2697514 Jam Akin
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Same difference


Sat, 08/11/2012 - 16:45 | 2697783 LMAOLORI
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Pretty amusing obama and biden are both career politicians.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 16:04 | 2697725 vato poco
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"I am not a liberal..."

No, you're just a condescending asshole. Damn. Never fails: any once-great commentariat, such as here at ZH, gets infested with political scum who then deny their blatant & obvious ideological indoctrination. It's the pity of the Web.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 16:49 | 2697789 Lednbrass
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The problem with your thinking is that you are stuck in a flawed "If someone mocks or condems what Team Red does, they support Team Blue" mindset. That is simply nonsensical, it is not logical or true by any stretch of the imagination.  Your argument boils down to saying that if one hates chocolate, they love vanilla and this is wrong.  One may dislike both and like strawberry or lemon.

The entire premise that "if against A, than supporter of B" is a big hole in your thinking, you should try to grasp that.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 17:58 | 2697892 Everybodys All ...
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I'm officially waiting for you to mock team blue. Go ahead. Prove your point. Bring it.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 00:19 | 2698290 Lednbrass
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Well, I was pointing out the flaw in your argument and thought pattern as you were going after someone who is as far from the Obama types as one can get philosophically and politically but if you are looking for a quick critique of some of the glaring weaknesses in American leftist thought that is easy enough.

Collectivist political philosophy fails on multiple levels because at root it seeks to take wealth from one person who has accumulated a store of labor and value and give it to someone else who in many cases has done nothing and is not willing to do anything. It attempts to create equality through coercion which is the complete antithesis of freedom; it looks at any difference in human conditions and immediatley ascribes it to some injustice or another (often contrived or imagined) and never even considers personal responsibility and choice as driving factors in why one person has lots and another has little. On a philosophical level, the political left in general seeks equalized outcome while the political right is more interested in equalized starting points.

In the US it is has also fostered perpetual victimhood run amok and enforced at the barrel of a government gun and subsidized by federal cash; far from promoting a meritocracy of any sort it advances incompetents from the right politically correct group at the expense of anyone who is actually bright and hard working.

In an effort to be nice and help you comprehend what you clearly aren't getting, your problem is that you are looking at politics on striclty a linear axis and as a result you fail to understand people. A left/right single line alone is not capable of describing political though any more than an algebraic equation can be graphed on only an X axis. A far better method IMO is the Political Compass, which uses the standard left/right economic axis but also adds a vertical Y axis in the form of authoritarian vs. non-authoritarian, or statist vs. non-statist. There are many here (including myself) who are part of the non-statist right and they are no more part of the political left than you are, we tend to object to the big government loving philosophy of the Republican party and see them as mentally diseased as the leftists are.

Take a look, read it over, take the test and see where you fall-

Once you comprehend what people are saying you will stop looking like a dumbass for criticizing people that seriously advocate minimal government intervention and consider most of you Republicans a bunch of gutless, whining, nanny state nancy boys.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 12:32 | 2698783 Everybodys All ...
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Once you comprehend what people are saying you will stop looking like a dumbass for criticizing people that seriously advocate minimal government intervention and consider most of you Republicans a bunch of gutless, whining, nanny state nancy boys.

Thanks for proving my point.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 16:55 | 2699232 Lednbrass
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What point? You're the guy trying to call someone above an Obama supporter when they are nothing of the sort.  You cant get past the entirely flawed equation of "non-support of A = support of B." You just don't seem capable of it.


Sat, 08/11/2012 - 11:48 | 2697310 john39
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should be clear by now that U.S. democracy is just a one party scam...  giving voters nothing but the illusion of choice.  who gives a shit who romney choses for a running mate, or what any of these clowns has to say.  just look at what they do and its clear enough.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 14:40 | 2697612's picture

And isn't it funny that the more bland and indistinguishable the candidates become the tighter the horse race supposedly is?

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 20:33 | 2698032 fonzannoon
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Who just junked crocket's simple and accurate statement without a response? Thats pretty lame. I am curious what the rebuttal is...

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 20:33 | 2698033 fonzannoon
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Who just junked crocket's simple and accurate statement without a response? Thats pretty lame. I am curious what the rebuttal is...

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 13:08 | 2697501 Not Too Important
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Votes no longer count.


From Black Box Voting:


Not if you don't mind some unknown guys working offshore controlling whatever they choose to in the software processing votes and voters."

  Translation - strangers working in secret, in foreign locations, owned by secret corporations primarily located in off-shore tax havens, are telling us who wins and who loses our elections. All of them.

Full story:

 More on SCYTL:

"SCYTL is based in Barcelona; its funding comes from international venture capital funds including Nauta Capital, Balderton Capital and Spinnaker."
Balderton Capital -
     Tim Bunting - Goldman Sachs      Mark Evans - Goldman Sachs   This is far worse than anyone can imagine. Complete capture of the vote counting in most major countries:

"It's not the people who vote that count. It's the people who count the votes." - Josef Stalin
Sat, 08/11/2012 - 12:07 | 2697373 rwe2late
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 and FOR

repeal of Glass-Steagal

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 10:56 | 2697125 dolce vita
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"minimize federal spending"


that IS the way wanker will buck up and do it.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 17:47 | 2697855 CompassionateFascist
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What we can conclude is that it is cheaper to buy a Rep than a Sen. Since there are way more Reps than Sens, this proves the validity of free market economics.  VPs, on the other hand, are a free rental.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 22:31 | 2698159 disabledvet
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not with the Wisconsin Kid. The one's a radical. I'm a Huckabee man myself...fearful of a Southern Split everywhere and always. His name never really came up...can't say I know why...not one of those "in the know" as they say. Should be an interesting finish...but with the total negativity this early and this often and only worse coming i'm not expecting many Americans to be anything other than turned off.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 01:17 | 2698340 Nikao7
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Huckabee man?  Are you fucking serious?  He is of the same ilk as the rest of what's in D.C.  Money grubber with a Bible hollowed out to fit a rifle.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 23:27 | 2698228 Harbanger
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It's hillarious just watching all the closet Obama zombies flip out over Paul Ryan.  Very telling...

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 01:46 | 2698364 Buckaroo Banzai
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Yes. The one good thing about Paul Ryan is that he annoys the obamatards so much.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 03:55 | 2698419 SoCalBusted
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Could be true, but with an increased negative feedback loop I hope that they will learn before it is too late.  In the meantime, I'm planning for the worst.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 10:20 | 2696988 crawldaddy
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the empty suit ticket.  THis country is in trouble, we need real leaders and we get to choose from dumb and dumber.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 10:29 | 2697021 otto skorzeny
otto skorzeny's picture

why so many down votes- alot of FOX-NEWS trolls out today?

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 10:34 | 2697035 Dr. Engali
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I see a lot of trolls from both sides out today. The next few months are going to be interesting around here.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 10:36 | 2697046 otto skorzeny
otto skorzeny's picture

dumbass- I hate democracy in general so I am not biased either way.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 10:42 | 2697073 Dr. Engali
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You're not a very good troll. For the record I look for a higher standard and I will call both criminals out for who they are.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 10:47 | 2697088 otto skorzeny
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if you are looking for a higher standard in ANY elected politicians you are  delusional.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 10:56 | 2697108 Dr. Engali
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It's a shame that your colossal ignorance is only outshined by your inability to think critically . Yes I expect a person to stand up for what they believe and not apologize for it. I expect a person to tell me how they are going to vote and stick to it. I especially want them to have some integrity and not run from their record. If that makes me a delusional dumbass then that is a title that I embrace.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 11:07 | 2697162 monoloco
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At least with a monarchy, there is a chance of having an enlightened leader every few centuries.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 14:42 | 2697615's picture

That's not what I learned from Blackadder.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 03:56 | 2698420 SoCalBusted
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We don't have that much time

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 10:37 | 2697048 boogerbently
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"Empty suits", dumb and dumber" MUST be talking about Biden and the Choomer in chief.

These debates will be hilarious. Idiot Joe Biden Vs. one of the sharpest financial minds in congress, and Obama trying to blame Bush and run on his own record. TOO FUNNY!!

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 11:13 | 2697186 tmosley
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lol, yeah right.  And Obama is smarter than Bush.

Intelligence doesn't matter when you are bought and paid for.  Neither does party affiliation.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 10:40 | 2697068 Long-John-Silver
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Over 400,000 households in just the second quarter of this year have cut the cable/satellite cord. Why spend $80+ a month to watch news (all of them) you can't beLIEve or watch people doing work that requires some level of insanity. Considering the number of commercial interruptions the networks should be paying you to watch their crap.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 10:48 | 2697098 Uncle Remus
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Slow learners? But hey, maybe they've not completely flatlined.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 14:44 | 2697620's picture

I cut the satellite cord over three years ago but I still like to watch The Rockford Files and Green Acres with my rabbit ears.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 17:48 | 2697878 flattrader
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Green Acres was avant garde sophisticated humor.  It only looked hayseed.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 18:02 | 2697897 Moe Howard
Moe Howard's picture

It's the place to be! Farm living is the life for me!

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 03:59 | 2698422 SoCalBusted
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I refuse to cut the cord.  I want to know what my enemy is talking about.  I only practice radio silence on the transmitting side, not the receiving side.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 10:33 | 2697037 Long-John-Silver
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For over 100 years we have only been allowed to vote for one or the other evil choice. Is it any wonder that today we live with instituted evil?  

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 10:36 | 2697044 arby63
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Few leaders want to run. Jew media beats them down.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 11:24 | 2697230 augustusgloop
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nein, der circumsized casino owner herr adelson ist sehr begeistert mit mitt. 

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 01:27 | 2698346 phyuckyiu
phyuckyiu's picture

Ponder how calling out Sheldon Adelson for buying an election for a cool few hundred million gets downvotes. Paultards Unite!

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 01:25 | 2698342 Nikao7
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You are right that this Country is in trouble.  But it's much more than just lack of leaders.  This country is full of rot through out the to bottom.  Sadly the leaders are very much a reflection of the rest of the population. 

The "leaders" pool is small and an uphill battle awaits any such men.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 10:22 | 2696993 LawsofPhysics
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So he has no experience in the private sector?  Never ran a business on his own?  Fucking great, easy to see who is behind this guy (who voted for TARP, TALF, NDAA, etc...).

Bet on the banks, financial houses, and the industrial military complex (again) boys, Monday is gonna rip in these sectors.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 10:24 | 2697005 otto skorzeny
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plus he supported GM bailouts. looks kind of Jew-y. yid grandma in the closet?

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 10:37 | 2697052 GoBadgers
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"looks kind of Jew-y"


Boy, you are one clever cocksucker.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 10:42 | 2697066 otto skorzeny
otto skorzeny's picture

WI is the TN of the Midwest- take it from a FIB. and thank you for the compliment-a UW supporter would be an expert on performing the act. Madison WI- a hotbed of liberals and sodomites

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 18:43 | 2697944 ultimate warrior
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A douchebag from Illinois trying to to rip on WI? Really? The liberals and sodomites in WI are from the Illinois folk that come up here to vacation. Thanks for your money by the way dick.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 00:11 | 2698281 GoBadgers
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I love how he self-identifies as a FIB. First and probably only fuckhead from IL to do that.

And they still don't have professional football down there.....


Sun, 08/12/2012 - 00:42 | 2698307 otto skorzeny
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yeah-I'm proud to be a FIB-I'll come up and throw you fat losers a few bones so you can keep the heat on in your double wide for a few days and then go back to my job on CBOE in Chi-Town trading up the price of corn to put some more of your family-owned dairy farms out of business.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 16:58 | 2699238 Lednbrass
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Feel free. Most dairy farmers can grow more feed corn if they need to.The question is that when the trucks stop running who is still able to eat, them or you?

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 11:16 | 2697197 tmosley
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Are you kidding?  He looks nothing like Jewey.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 17:54 | 2697887 CompassionateFascist
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Skorzeny did a nice job liberating Mussolini. Wrong about Ryan though. He's pure Shabbatz Goy. Same as Mittinz.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 01:43 | 2698362 phyuckyiu
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It's safe to say that Ryan will send our soldiers crashing into the DU battlefield of Iran in no time. Goy Obama didn't jump high enough when asked. Sheldon Adelson and the boys will make sure that doesn't happen again. Hard to believe that 200-300 mill buys the president of the united states, but if you're worth 26 bill and 80 years old, already funding Taglit - Birthright Israel, paying for american jews to go to Israel all expenses paid, flight/room/food/travel for their indoctrination, 17000 people a year, what a great way to go out.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 11:29 | 2697241 augustusgloop
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otto, you vould be sent to  spezial kamp for such poor phrenology. 

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 10:35 | 2697040 Gully Foyle
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I'm not certain running a business makes anyone qualified to be a politician.

There are shitty politicians who are businessmen.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 10:44 | 2697085 LawsofPhysics
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Maybe, but doing so means you can survive in the real world and the experience is worht something, Care to address his voting record instead?  Voted in favor of Iraq war (both time, the second was unfunded), TARP, TALF, bailouts for GM.

So you favor voting for someone who complains about spending while voting in favor of more?

Stupid fucking sheep.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 10:47 | 2697094 gmrpeabody
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And Obamas vast experience was in..., uhhh... let me think...

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 10:50 | 2697103 LawsofPhysics
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So replacing him with Ryan does what again?  Don't think to hard, you might actually learn something.  Care to address the voting record or are you going to simply make another idiotic response and self-identify as a troll?

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 11:06 | 2697158 Everybodys All ...
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Care to address Obamas record and signatures on those laws?

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 11:13 | 2697190 LawsofPhysics
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I didn't vote for Obama, try again.  Who signed TARP again?  Remind me, what didn't Bush sign?  Wake up sheep.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 11:20 | 2697211 Everybodys All ...
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Tarp was signed by Bush and voted for by the current president. Is that all you got? Blame Bush? I didnt say you voted for the president. The world would be so much better off if we could just bring back Saddam don't you think? The man who butchered his own people just like Assad and just like Qadaffi. The only difference is the way the media portrays it when their boy is in office.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 11:54 | 2697328 LawsofPhysics
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So your point is the same as mine, the two party system is a two party lie.  Thanks for helping point that out captain obvious, now how about some solutions?

Here is one; How about letting the owners, management and shareholders pay back the creditors the next time they drive a company into the fucking ground?  Leave the taxpayer out of it.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 15:45 | 2697701 Everybodys All ...
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You are intellectually dishonest in thinking or implying the TARP , GM, or any other bailout vote was without complete democratic backing. I agree and in no way have ever backed the bailouts. BTW Ron Paul the last I checked is a Republican. Who comes to mind on the democratic side that rivals his spending reform ideas? I'm tempted to go in the gutter with you but I'm still not quite ready.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 16:55 | 2697800 Lednbrass
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What incredibly bizarre reasoning you use.

You are absolutely incapable of addressing anything he said without reverting to "its all the dems fault" and pretending he somehow backed them. I cannot decide if you are conditioned like Pavlov's dogs or jsut entirely clueless. It seems you cannot wrap your brain around the thought that someone criticizing Team Red is not endorsing Team Blue.

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