Paul Ryan Factbox, Nomination Reaction And Lifetime Donors

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Reuters summarizes the key facts about the 42-year old House Budget Chair and potential future American vice president.

  • Ryan, 42, a rising star among the populist Tea Party movement and fiscal conservatives who dominate the Republican Party, has served seven terms in the U.S. House of Representatives since first being elected in 1998.
  • Ryan attracted attention when, as chairman of the powerful House Budget Committee, offered a controversial plan in January 2010 to reform the tax code and eliminate the federal deficit. The plan relies on tax cuts and would minimize federal spending while drastically overhauling Medicare, the popular government-run health program for the elderly.
  • Romney endorsed that plan during the primaries, and by adding the Wisconsin congressman to the ticket, he makes the document the centerpiece of his run for the White House and raises the possibility that much of the campaign debate will be about spending, deficits and Medicare, rather than job creation.
  • Ryan could help Romney gain ground in his home state of Wisconsin, a battleground state that seems to be leaning toward Obama after a polarizing battle over the unsuccessful recall of the state's Republican Governor Scott Walker.
  • But because of Ryan's plan to cut Medicare, Romney also runs the risk of alienating seniors, a group that has narrowly backed Republicans in recent elections.
  • Before being elected to Congress, Ryan was an aide to conservative U.S. Senator Sam Brownback of Kansas and has worked with U.S. Senator Robert Kasten of Wisconsin. Ryan also worked for former New York congressman and one-time Vice Presidential candidate Jack Kemp. These experiences make him a creature of Congress - a political body that has become increasingly unpopular among voters in recent years.
  • Ryan is a fifth-generation Wisconsin resident. He grew up in Janesville before attending college at Miami University in Ohio. His father and grandfather died of heart attacks in their 50s, making him mindful of a healthy lifestyle and he exercises frequently.

And here are select reactions from various individuals across the political spectrum to his nomination:

WISCONSIN GOVERNOR SCOTT WALKER, REPUBLICAN

"Governor Mitt Romney made a bold and reform-minded selection in Congressman Paul Ryan of Wisconsin. This election has to be about who is going to look out for the next generation. America needs a comeback team to turn around the economy and to turn around the fiscal status of our country. Romney and Ryan have the ideas and the experience needed to take on these core issues. This is a great day for Wisconsin and an even greater day for America."

OBAMA CAMPAIGN MANAGER JIM MESSINA

"In naming Congressman Paul Ryan, Mitt Romney has chosen a leader of the House Republicans who shares his commitment to the flawed theory that new budget-busting tax cuts for the wealthy, while placing greater burdens on the middle class and seniors, will somehow deliver a stronger economy. ... As a member of Congress, Ryan rubber-stamped the reckless Bush economic policies that exploded our deficit and crashed our economy. Now the Romney-Ryan ticket would take us back by repeating the same, catastrophic mistakes."

FLORIDA GOVERNOR RICK SCOTT, REPUBLICAN

"Like Governor Romney, Congressman Ryan understands that government doesn't create jobs, people do, and that the best way to create jobs is to get government out of the way. I'm confident that Congressman Ryan will be a great partner for Governor Romney in getting America back to work."

TEA PARTY PATRIOTS, A CONSERVATIVE ADVOCACY GROUP

"Tea Party Patriots welcomes the selection of Paul Ryan as the vice-presidential running mate for Governor Mitt Romney. With this selection, Governor Romney and the Republican Party make it clear that they have accepted the Tea Party Patriots' values of fiscal responsibility, limited government and free markets as the best course of action for economic recovery and restoring personal freedom and individual responsibility to our national values."

MARY KAY HENRY, PRESIDENT OF THE SERVICE EMPLOYEES INTERNATIONAL UNION

"Representative Ryan has made a name for himself by fighting in the halls of Congress for tax giveaways for the wealthy and big corporations while proposing to gut vital services like Medicare and education, and eliminating any sense of retirement security for working families. His no-holds-barred record of attacking seniors, children, and working men and women is frightening for the 99 percent of Americans who are not rich -- but for Mitt Romney it was a calling card to choose him as a running mate."

U.S. SENATOR ROB PORTMAN, REPUBLICAN

"Mitt Romney has made a great choice in Paul Ryan. He is an accomplished public servant and a leading voice on the most pressing issues facing our country. Paul is one of my best friends in Congress and someone I have worked closely with as a former colleague on the House Ways and Means Committee."

FORMER MINNESOTA GOVERNOR TIM PAWLENTY, REPUBLICAN

"Congressman Ryan is a respected leader and a bold thinker regarding the changes needed to restore America. His selection will also help Governor Romney win the key swing state of Wisconsin. I am excited about a Romney-Ryan ticket and look forward to doing all I can to help them win this election."

FORMER U.S. SENATOR RICK SANTORUM, REPUBLICAN

"Congressman Paul Ryan is an outstanding choice as our country's next vice president, and today's announcement demonstrates Governor Romney's commitment to returning fiscal sanity back to Washington, D.C. I have long supported Paul Ryan's fiscal and entitlement reforms to return our country back on a path of fiscal health. At a time when our country is at an economic crossroads, Congressman Ryan's depth of knowledge on how to tackle these challenges is unparalleled. ... He is solidly pro-life, pro-family, and will be an advocate for our military and our national security priorities. I look forward to supporting the Romney-Ryan ticket in the weeks to come."

RICHARD TRUMKA, PRESIDENT OF THE AFL-CIO

"Whether its outsourcing American jobs or picking his running mate, Mitt Romney's proven just how bad his decision making is for working people. Aligning himself with the poster-child for ending Medicare and Social Security puts to rest any suggestion that Romney has a clue what the middle-class needs. We're witnessing the radical Tea Party extremes drive its final nail in what was once the Republican Party."

LOUISIANA GOVERNOR BOBBY JINDAL, REPUBLICAN

"Paul is a good friend and one of the smartest guys I served with in Congress. He has the courage of his convictions, which is what our nation needs."

SENATE MAJORITY LEADER HARRY REID, DEMOCRAT

"By picking Representative Paul Ryan, Governor Romney has doubled down on his commitment to gut Social Security and end Medicare as we know it. Romney's choice demonstrates that catering to the Tea Party and the far-right is more important to him than standing up for the middle class. The months ahead will provide Americans with a clear choice between the Romney-Ryan plan to gut Social Security and Medicare and Democrats' balanced approach to deficit reduction that combines smart spending cuts with asking millionaires and billionaires to pay their fair share. Democrats in the Senate look forward to engaging in that debate."

HOUSE MINORITY LEADER NANCY PELOSI, DEMOCRAT

"There is no question that former Governor Romney now owns the Republican Ryan budget that puts millionaires ahead of Medicare and the middle class. Congressman Paul Ryan led House Republicans in voting to end the Medicare guarantee, which increases costs on seniors and weakens America's great middle class in order to give tax breaks to millionaires, Big Oil and corporations that ship jobs overseas."

JUSTIN RUBEN, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF MOVEON.ORG, A LIBERAL ADVOCACY GROUP

"Romney and Ryan are the 1 percent Dream Team. Representative Paul Ryan is an extremist ideologue who wants to end Medicare, radically redistribute wealth to the top 1 percent, and throw America's middle class under the bus. Ryan's proposed budget would cost America more than a million jobs in less than one year. Like Romney, Ryan believes the poor and middle class should pay more so the rich can get richer. Romney's choice of Ryan is sure to energize MoveOn's more than 7 million members as we work to ensure voters know the truth about Romney and Ryan's extreme plans to demolish Medicare, raise middle class taxes to fund tax cuts for billionaires, and destroy jobs."

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Finally, from Open Secrets, here is a list of the industry support for Paul Ryan throughout his career, and his oppoent, Joe Biden.

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Sat, 08/11/2012 - 10:17 | 2696981 Ivanovich
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Meet the new boss same as the old.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 10:23 | 2697002 Gully Foyle
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"His father and grandfather died of heart attacks in their 50s, making him mindful of a healthy lifestyle and he exercises frequently."

Nothing trumps bad genetics.

Odds are he will have a heart attack while exercising.

 

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 10:27 | 2697016 LawsofPhysics
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"Genetics" are not real, so there,

 

Signed,  The GOP.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 10:31 | 2697029 Gully Foyle
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LawsofPhysics

I'm pretty sure the GOP understand genetics to be real. And support life saving science.

All benefit from the money pumped into medicine.

Both sides suffer from medical fallacies, but in the end they all face the same choices.

In the end they all make the same compromises.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 10:40 | 2697067 LawsofPhysics
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Riiiiiiggggghhhht, just like they believe in other science.  You can't pick and choose, that's not how it works.  Evolution not real, but genetics (the science behind evolution) is real.  Good luck with that cognative dissonance.   Oh yeah, guess what, those scientists don't work for free either.

Too bad the "money" you mention typically doesn't make it to the scientists or doctors or nurses, atlas continues to shrug.

Bloody sheep.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 10:48 | 2697099 CClarity
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So . . . . basically, Ryan has only been a Congress rat for his life post college.  And this is supposed to make me feel like he is "in touch"?

I do like tax overhaul concepts and wonder if the Wisonsin angle will bring "pension reform" along.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 10:54 | 2697120 LawsofPhysics
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The truth is that the TBTF banks stole the pensions of the people of wisconsin and yet Ryan is their "golden boy".  Ryan even voted to bail the same banks out and GM too.  The best part is he has voted in favor of no oversight when the free money was sent to bail the TBTF out.

These people should have sent this guy to the guillotine long ago. 

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 11:46 | 2697261 razorthin
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They continue to steal even defined contribution pensions by the Fed's "liquidity" - leading to fund churning and fee skimming.  Not to mention negative growth of NAV's.  Money market funds are now net negative performers (not even accounting for real inflation).  Furthermore, they have the balls to dissuade the individual from trying to avoid balance destruction during market down-legs by imposing "excessive trading" policies.  Please, it is much worse than we could collectively express.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 11:53 | 2697322 Manthong
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Perception is reality..

He will buy the PTB time.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 12:49 | 2697467 phyuckyiu
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If Christie was chosen I might have paid attention to this election. As it is, Ryan will cost many female voters and moderates. So now there is no voice of common sense on the ticket, just career blowhards. Yawn.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 14:51 | 2697616 The Big Ching-aso
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THE BIG CHING-ASO, CONSUMATE PEDESTRIAN

"He won't make a phucking lick-o-difference as to the outcome of the phucking train wreck."

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 15:19 | 2697651 Michael
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Revenge votes for Obama is the solution. Black balling Dr Ron Paul was not a smart move this time.

No self respecting Ron Paul supporter will vote for Mitt Romney since he is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Rothschild's and Rockefeller banksters just as Obama is.

The Presidency is a wholly owned subsidiary of the international banking cartel, multi national corporations, and Goldman Sachs/JP Morgan.

Many millions of Ron Paul supporters like me will be voting directly for Obama in November in a political strategy so we can get a real Liberty candidate on the ballot in 2016.

If you don't like Obama next year, then impeach him for illegally attacking Libya, gun running fast and furious, and being disqualified for his forged birth certificate.

Fox news is an infomercial for the republicans and the GOP. MSNBC is an infomercial for the democrats, and ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN are left leaning, brainwashing, social engineering scum. Try not to get your news from them.

What's Romney gonna give me? Will he cancel the TSA/government 750 million hollow point bullet order, abolish NDAA and the Patriot act? Then fuck him.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 15:51 | 2697708 DaveyJones
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I love my choice of candidates this year. One is connected with el salvadoran death squads and the other orders superconstitutional drone murders. Can I take my ball and go home?

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 16:08 | 2697732 Flakmeister
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Sorry.... To quote an American Poet

"No one gets out of here alive..."

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 18:27 | 2697926 WhyDoesItHurtWh...
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Shucks, I was hoping Romney would pick this guy ...........http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5pOy2cNkQY

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 16:54 | 2699227 AldousHuxley
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look at who is donating to BOTH:

 

  • old fucks on welfare
  • securities & investment banksters
  • health professionals....doctors who don't compete on market labor
  • lawyers.... liars who want their cushy job
Sat, 08/11/2012 - 22:28 | 2698151 defencev
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What's Romney gonna give me? Will he cancel the TSA/government 750 million hollow point bullet order, abolish NDAA and the Patriot act? Then fuck him.

  And if you got what you want how would it improve your fucking, miserable life?

Marxist regime which will be the logical outcome of Obama reelection will abolish 2016 elections anyway. And shits like you will be put in Gulag and summariy executed. I guess, you would not care about TSA at that point.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 00:00 | 2698272 Harbanger
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He's a shill for Obama telling people he's for RP, we have his number.  Paul Ryan like Ron Paul are both firm believers in Austrian economics.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 13:11 | 2698844 Michael
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When the mainstream media virtually completely stopped covering Dr Paul, making their ratings drop to the floor when they chose Rombama, and not that they covered Paul much at all before, Right then I chose to vote directly for Obama using a new political strategy never used before. It will work.

P.S.

I don't have to explain myself, I'm well known on ZH.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 23:19 | 2698215 Harbanger
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How much do they pay you to post this shit.  You posted the same thing 3 times.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 17:35 | 2697865 CompassionateFascist
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Chris Christie, the human bowling ball. In a VP debate, he'd have crushed Biden.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 23:11 | 2698201 Theosebes Goodfellow
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WTF are you talking about? Who said Biden is making it onto the ticket this year? The only reason Obama got saddled with him is that the DNC wasn't quite ready to turn a brother loose in the WH with a Hispanic lesbian as his Veep. This year though.... But a wet sack of freakin' petunias could out-debate Biden! Hell, the boy's a walking blunder every time he opens his mouth. Obama probably saw him as an insurance policy, thinking nobody would dare shoot him lest Biden become president, which is pretty crafty for a former foreign exchange student. Pulleeeeaaaasseeee.....

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 23:23 | 2698221 phyuckyiu
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Sadly, Biden has more charisma than Paul Ryan. Which is like saying a snail is cooler than a slug, because it has a shell.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 22:58 | 2698188 kliguy38
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Chubbie could have made a difference......just like Obomney will make a difference....you still don't get it so that means you never will........you took the blue pill so go ahead and dream little child

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 23:19 | 2698214 phyuckyiu
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For clarification I did comment further down "So our choices this year are the Bush Cabal Fuck or the Agenda 21 Fuck. Nice choices." All I said is it would have made me pay attention. Now I won't even bother to check what anyone has to say. My sincere apologies for attempting to give a shit.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 16:35 | 2697773 LMAOLORI
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LawsofPhysics

Obama voted to bail out the banks too the only one running who didn't was Romney. Not to mention there were ZERO prosecutions under obama.

 

 

OBAMA: Senate Must Pass Bailout, "Do What's Right for the Country"

 

 

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 17:29 | 2697853 malek
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How can one steal something that never existed in the first place?
You know, like empty promises backed by nothing?

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 19:17 | 2697981 OpenThePodBayDoorHAL
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Triple FAIL:

1. Announces on the deck of a battleship. This only appeals to his redneck warmonger base, everyone else is sick of wars. Politically completely tone deaf. FAIL.

2. Picks Paul Ryan. Divisive, nasty little fucker. Too young to take the top spot if required. Again, good for the "base" but does nothing to reach out to moderate independents who will decide this thing. Again, policially tone deaf, as we always knew Mitt and Co were. FAIL.

3. Fumbles the announcement  "...I want to introduce the next PRESIDENT..." etc. This shit counts fer chrissakes Willard, how inept can you get. FAIL.

Willard = John Kerry. Shit, this means four more years of Obomba...

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 09:07 | 2698557 Bendromeda Strain
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3. Fumbles the announcement  "...I want to introduce the next PRESIDENT..." etc. This shit counts fer chrissakes Willard, how inept can you get. FAIL.

How inept can you get? Good question. How inept can YOU get? FAIL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ecbhdSLRPtc

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 00:06 | 2698277 HarryM
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How does the Ryan plan stack up against the Joe Biden Plan?

Maybe Romney should pick a brainless idiot like Joe Biden - Is Billy Carter still alive?

At least the Ryan plan will move the conversation about our economic disaster in the right direction.

 

 

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 21:19 | 2698044 TURBO
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I'd prefer being a Congress Rat (your words) as opposed to just being a Rat. (let me see Obama's college transcripts; and how he was admitted as a Foreign Student).

Fiscal conservatism (as opposed to blowing another $5 Trillion) makes sense to anyone w/ an education Right of Krugman. Tough decisions are ahead, agreed. Problem is Libs don't want to discuss ANY meaningful cuts whatsoever.

"From my house I can see November".  ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 !!

 

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 12:34 | 2697431 The-Dirty-Scurd
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Evolution is not proven but a collection of theories. Genetics are the basis for those who believe in designed life as well. There is a difference between animals becoming different species and animals adapting to environments. There is a lot of "science" opposing evolution but let us use our common sense for a moment. If evolution were true then where are all the in-between species right now? Like the half-man half fishes, or the next step species? Or will you use the its a genetic mutation every so often arguement? In that case in every mutation in genes that can actually be proven(that happens naturally not some GMO frankenstien) it is a defect that leads to the animal/plant being less able to survive. GMO are manipulated by intelligence(albeit not very much), I wont get into the pesticides and such but rather when it does seem to work it is by design not a random act. Random mutations are negative and caused by disease or chemicals and so on. Also, in the bible dinosaurs are mentioned in
Job. When God shows Job the age before when dinos were around and the firmament was protecting the earth from the uv rays before the flood, made a greenhouse or perfect setting for large animals. I digress, they are described in detail. Thier tails being the size of trees, not just any type of tree either but the big kind. How when they drank they drank a river, or how no trap was big enough to snare them. Thier necks were long and big enough to reach the tree tops. Is there any animals walking aroudn today that fits this description? No. Elephants have tiny tails, giraffes have tiny tails, hippos have tiny tails, all can be trapped or snared. You get the idea.

And you're right money is never the scientists and no scientist was rich or had neough money to do thier research. They have always had backers like kings, emperors, govts, corporation and so on. What happens if a scientist doesnt get the results they like? They axe it. What if a scientist get a result that does not go along with the backers agenda? They own it, self it and hide it from the public. I find it contradictory to call people sheep but yet make a slogan or catch phrase from an obvious piece of propaganda like atlas shrugged saying "atlas continues to shrug".

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 12:53 | 2697472 phyuckyiu
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Great, so now the Ryan turds are going to start spewing their evolution is false bullshit all over everything, meanwhile genes just magically choose what to do with god's grace without any natural selection. Thank god I killed my tv so I don't have to listen to you Paultards (yes we can use it on different people now).

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 22:53 | 2698182 rambo1028
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+1 for a fitting use of paultard

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 23:25 | 2698226 phyuckyiu
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My downvotes are a sad day for science, but hey.... Brawndo has electrolytes!

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 12:55 | 2697473 LawsofPhysics
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Nothing  in science is ever "proven", in fact electricity is still "just a theory".  Sorry did you have a fucking point, I dosed off during your storytelling.

Results are results, interpretation (why peer review is important) is something else.  

Many have tried to shoot down the theory that is evolution intentionally  that is what good science does.  It still stands, 150 years later, even electrical theory is not that old, nor has it actually held - go read some primary literature on the higgs particles.  

Thanks for playing, bloody sheep.  Don't bother educating yourself, it makes it easier to profit from your left/right mentality and ignorance.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 14:29 | 2697599 PiratePawpaw
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"Electricity is just a theory"?.....................Shocking!

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 14:34 | 2697602 James_Cole
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Please for love of God not another evolution is false argument. Such arguments should never be held outside of preschool and church (two intellectually compatible institutions).

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 19:44 | 2698000 Deo vindice
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"Please for love of God..."

The irony of your opening statement is utterly priceless!

Any evolutionist that cannot defend his/her position outside of preschool or church ought to immediately abandon it.

Evolutionists are the liberal-left of intellectualism. Yell loud and drown out any contrary voice and then brag about being the only one that is really 'heard'.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 20:18 | 2698021 nmewn
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It is a lot like screaming out for God's mercy when staring into the gaping maw of a pissed off Momma bear isn't it?...lol.

An evolutionist would have say the odds of God hearing them are statistically...zero, 1010123

So why bother? ;-)

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 21:24 | 2698075 James_Cole
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"The irony of your opening statement is utterly priceless!"

Thanks.

"Evolutionists are the liberal-left of intellectualism. Yell loud and drown out any contrary voice and then brag about being the only one that is really 'heard'"

Denying evolution is up there with Earth is flat & astronauts never landed on the moon - not worth arguing with people so ignorant.

"600 Darwin Dissenters signing the A Scientific Dissent From Darwinism represent about 0.054% of the estimated 1,108,100 biological and geological scientists in the US in 1999."

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 01:39 | 2698357 Likstane
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I suggest "In the Beginning; Compelling Evidence for Creation and the Flood" by Walt Brown, Ph.D.   Walt Brown has a standing offer for a written debate to decide the question, Does the scientific evidence favor creation of evolution?  One of the rules is a prohibition of use of religious materials. 

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 03:02 | 2698402 James_Cole
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Why would anyone non-religious want to use religious materials in a debate over evolution? When someone is explaining the theory of gravity there's no need to bring up Santa Claus.

Having not heard of Walt Brown before (apparently he's big in the creation science movement whatever nonsense that is) I searched him and came up with a very funny video of him explaining his "Hydroplate Theory."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKO-vTwYCo8

The fun thing with people who believe in fairy tales is they always start with the fairy tale and then work backward to find "theories" which support said myth. And this always results in amusing explanations.

Here's a question to ask Dr. Brown, why is the fossil record so darned' organized?? He'd doubtless come up with a hilarious "theory" to explain how different lifeforms simultaneously were buried across disparate geographical regions all at the exact same moment, one group after the next. Very clever God!

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 06:20 | 2698471 malikai
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You just shut up now and give all your money to the Catholic church. Redemtion will set you free, heathen!

Also, you wasted too many characters writing that up. Logical arguments are no match for the big smiling guy in the sky.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 16:01 | 2697720 XenoFrog
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Nice troll job.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 17:40 | 2697874 CompassionateFascist
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Xeno Frog is proof that evolution works...in reverse.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 09:46 | 2698603 Bendromeda Strain
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CompassionateFascist is proof that selection gets tired and skips people.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 10:47 | 2697095 blobbus
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You know those fossils in the ground? They really arent that older than Genesis. God put them there to test our faith!

 

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 12:40 | 2697449 The-Dirty-Scurd
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The bible says they are older than Genesis but so many folks dont actually read or study it. they listen to soothsayers and liars. which is all described in there as well. most so-called christian religions are infiltrated just like any other religion(only two are not philadelphia and symrna). Jude is a good and short description of how certain men crept in unawares(to the sleeping masses) and nfiltrated politics, religion, govts, so-called science fields and economies. lying, cheating and subverting.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 12:55 | 2697476 phyuckyiu
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Ahh yes, I'm sure all the literal bible readers are going to be a huge boon for this ticket. Paultards unite!

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