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Mon, 07/25/2011 - 19:19 | 1492379 oogs66
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though they have succeeded in convincing america they are 'saving money'   does anyone remember it is just reducing the deficit?  does anyone believe that future cuts will ever be enacted?

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 19:22 | 1492387 High Plains Drifter
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the dirty little secret is this. it is already over for us. almost everyone here at zerohedge knows this.  heck a blind man could see it...........

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 19:32 | 1492424 Sathington Willougby
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Yer right.  No more aid to any fucking losers.  That includes  ALL the shit for brains assholes in the middle east.  Currently we give more to Israels enemies than them but fuck em all. 

No more fucking foreign aid to anyone.  We would have beat Bin Laden by leaving that region and they could all hurl sticks and feces at each other until the end of time.

End militarism.

End war on everything, drugs, literacy, terror and anything else, nouns verbs inanimate objects what a contrivance.

The faster this sham of a life thieving govt ends, the better.  Debt ceiling to infinity, dollar to zero, empire collapse.  All the livestock fail when their welfare doesn't show up, wither and die.  Everyone else lives happily ever after as free thinking individuals.

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 20:06 | 1492522 MrSteve
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"ending the war on nouns and verbs" .... genius!  the adverbs and adjectives will hate you forever though...prepositions are indifferent, generally

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 20:18 | 1492552 Tuco Benedicto ...
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"That is something up with which I will not put."    --Winston Churchill


Mon, 07/25/2011 - 20:45 | 1492620 FEDbuster
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Interventions and tough love won't cut it.  Like all addicts, the United States (and the most of the western world) will have to hit rock bottom before we stop this madness.

"Hasten the Collapse, OBAMA 2012"

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 21:08 | 1492611 baby_BLYTHE
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it all screams ACCOUNTING GIMMICKS to me.

Someone call up Rumsfeld and ask where that 2.3 trillion went

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 20:23 | 1492564 Coyote57
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Mr. Willooughby:

"We would have beat Bin Laden by leaving that region and they could all hurl sticks and feces at each other until the end of time."

I think you are overlooking the fact that, 'that region' contains all the oil we need to run our economy.

That region can do anything they want to us and we must take it because we are slaves to their oil pure and simple.

You will have to come up with an alternate plan

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 20:28 | 1492579 Captain Kurtz
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indeed, hence why we establish non-democratic regimes in this territory, continuosly

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 20:43 | 1492613 bardian
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<I think you are overlooking the fact that, 'that region' contains all the oil we need to run our economy>


No, we don't need foreign oil.  If we want foreign oil, I have a radical plan for you:  BUY IT FROM THEM!!!!!. Since when does peaceful voluntary exchange not work for oil??

Get out of right wing land.

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 21:49 | 1492895 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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How does left wing land define "fair" as far as real prices are concerned? We have no need to purchase any hydrocarbons from any foreign entity. Lets use our resources before we find ourselves paying $300.00 dollars a barrel from a nation which is being "fairly" compensated because 400 years ago someone said something mean to them.

Left wing land.....not voting for someone because of their skin color is wrong. Voting for someone if their color of skin is the right color is good, double plus good.

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 20:53 | 1492639 Ray Elliott
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I have been informed that the oil in the Williston Basin is greater than all the oil in Saudia Arabia and neighbors.  It has been successfully accessed by the wonders of drilling into shale (about 12,000 ft.), side drilling, and fracing with high pressure water.  The Williston Basin should last far longer than the mideast oil sources.

Let them proceed with the hurling of feces.

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 21:44 | 1492866 roccman
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It is less about quantity and more about production rates.


Athabasca will only ever produce 5-7 MB/D. And that assumes all the fresh water and NG are available to "melt rock" into a kerogen - that needs refined AGAIN to get into your tank.


1000 barrels a SECOND is an IMPOSSIBLE act to follow.

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 22:01 | 1492965 Idiot Savant
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Correct, and not just rate of production, but infrastructure to transport the oil. Perhaps Mr. Elliot should spend some time over at theoildrum.

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 21:33 | 1492807 sun tzu
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We also need oil from Canada, yet we are not bombing them. We need oil from Venezuela and Mexico, and we're not bombing them. Strange how that works. 

Tue, 07/26/2011 - 00:00 | 1493384 IBelieveInMagic
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You bomb some and the rest fall in line. Idea is to bomb far off countries as you don't want blowback from countries that are nearby...

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 21:33 | 1492802 roccman
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what does OBL have to do with ANYTHING?

you're not suggesting he had something to do with 911?

yes - these wars should end, but they won't because 'merikans think OBL (or whoever the hell is the next boogyman) lives under our collective beds.

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 19:30 | 1492425 Infinite QE
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Is RobotTard blind? He still thinks Netflix is going to $1000

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 20:18 | 1492550 legal eagle
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By George, I think you have it.

Reid should assume that the gov't will put $1 trillion in to NetFlix stock, that it will go up to $1,000, and that can fund all of our killing brown people for black oil.   Problem solved, move along.

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 21:39 | 1492840 mick_richfield
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He still thinks Netflix is going to $1000

I was surprised and a little dismayed  to find myself in agreement with RoboTrader on this point.

But then I realized -- he was thinking share price.  I was thinking market cap.

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 21:04 | 1492669 Mongrel
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Because it's "already over," how many ZHers would favor 1) revolution or 2) State secession from DC as a remedy? I know that the sheep will do nothing, so it's 3) serfdom for them.

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 23:25 | 1493297 wardawg12
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Definitely number 2 for starters

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 19:22 | 1492388 Deacon Frost
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Exactly right

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 19:27 | 1492410 nedwardkelly
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This entire brouhaha is a complete and utter farce. The fact that the current goings on are considered a 'serious' discussion is absolutely ludicrous.

All anyone is talking about is 'deficit reduction'. Noone is talking about deficit elimination, or god forbid, surplus. Maybe we should all try to change the conversation so it's expressed how it really is - this is a conversation about how much the debt will be increased by. Paul Ryans plan, Reids plan, Boehners plan - they're all fatal, just some are slower than others.

A 1 trillion dollar 'cut' over 10 years will result in higher national debt. A 4 trillion dollar cut over 10 years will result in a higher national debt.

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 19:51 | 1492489 Spitzer
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Thats what everyone thought but who's gonna cave ? They both keep upping the anti, investing more pride as the days tick by...

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 20:22 | 1492560 macholatte
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It's an insult. The George Will quote says it best. To even dignify these "plans" as anything other than scams,  hustles, subterfuge and propaganda with the explicit intention to mislead and swindle the public is outrageous. Yet, nobody rioting. Nobody marching in the street. The sheeple don't feel threatened.


Mon, 07/25/2011 - 23:13 | 1493262 tsx500
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...no reason to feel threatened ! -bahhh aahhhh baaa- who got voted off The Bachelor this week . -baaahhhhh bbaaahhhh- Hope &Change - bbaaahhhh

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 20:41 | 1492595 caconhma
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People, you are imbeciles.

Both political parties propose to increase the US deficit. None propose to cut deficit.

To make a long story short, America is moving to a bankruptcy. It is a matter of just how soon.

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 20:50 | 1492634 Doña K
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Best way to starve the beast: Sell all paper assets and buy physical gold and Silver. Sleep well at night and survive the bust. 

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 21:38 | 1492829 sun tzu
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You better stock up on guns, ammo, medicine, food and water too. The majority will not be ready for the collapse and will be gunning for the few who did. Your best friends will slit your throat to feed their children.

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 23:15 | 1493267 tsx500
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...damn , there goes my buzz

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 19:20 | 1492383 High Plains Drifter
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that's right. everything is on the table except any deductions from the military industrial complex , weapons sales and aid and gifts to israhole.........you see. ryan is a good conservative and a good conservative always supports war and our only "fwiend" in the middle east...............yep, its time to puke......

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 19:24 | 1492396 mynhair
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Wrong.  Everything is on the table, but real cuts.

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 19:27 | 1492414 High Plains Drifter
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the department of war makes war. we are war economy. when we stop fighting, we die...........the fiat regime has always propped up the military industrial complex and vice versa. they are codependent vehicles.........

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 19:41 | 1492453 mynhair
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Oh contrare.  We are the Welfare Economy with the best Food Stamp President in history.

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 19:47 | 1492471 High Plains Drifter
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well guess what?  i am sure you know that this new budget deal makes severe cuts in these welfare programs. can you say burning cities?  i knew you could..........we hang by a thread...........

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 19:29 | 1492420 dick cheneys ghost
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A disturbing story on Iraq..........


"And so it is that at a cost of over $1 trillion and the lives of more than 4,500 troops, the United States may be on the verge of handing China – America’s main economic rival and long-term threat to its global dominance – the gift of a firm foothold in the Middle East. And this took place without the Chinese having ever supported the Iraq war in any way. Such are the ironies of modern geopolitics".



Mon, 07/25/2011 - 19:40 | 1492451 DosZap
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And this took place without the Chinese having ever supported the Iraq war in any way. Such are the ironies of modern geopolitics".

Oh yes they supported it,they were ALL against US going in.............

After we got there, we found out WHY. The sanctions in place, were NEVER followed by China, Russia, and France.

They were doing business as usual w/Sad Man, until we went it.

Got caught w/their Wieners in the gate.

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 20:29 | 1492581 Missiondweller
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Interesting story. Thanks for posting

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 20:57 | 1492643 ThirdCoastSurfer
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Not to mention all the lives and treasure lost to China in the battles of Vietnam and Korea. The threat of "global communism"  in Asia was not from rice farmers and this way to cozy relationship we have with China and Corporate America is a fist full of feces in the face of US Veteran's who couldn't give a damn about their fallen brothers so long as they can fly the US flag and display the bumper sticker of service that they bought from their former attackers.

Soon no doubt, the troops of Afghanistan and Iraq will be buying whatever Iran has to offer as soon as the TV tells them to. 

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 21:29 | 1492772 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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You mean the UAW is paying back the 40 + billion dollars Mr. Obama gave them as payback for the union bribes? Like you said everything is on the table right?

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 21:29 | 1492773 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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You mean the UAW is paying back the 40 + billion dollars Mr. Obama gave them as payback for the union bribes? Like you said everything is on the table right?

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 19:21 | 1492384 Ancona
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These guys are a total fucking joke.

I'm moving to Burma, at least it's a known value.

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 19:23 | 1492392 mynhair
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'Saving'  is a 6 letter word.

Unlike 'suks'.

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 19:23 | 1492395 Noah Vail
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American people, who deserve responsible, honest leadership.

Really? Then why do they keep voting into office the same people who do not give it to them? Answer: because they like looting the Federal Treasury.

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 20:31 | 1492583 Missiondweller
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People voted for Obama because they did think he was different. They bought into "Hope & Change".


They were wrong.

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 19:24 | 1492399 Cognitive Dissonance
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The only thing worse than your own vomit on your shoes is someone else's vomit on your shoes. I don't think this is Paul Ryan's mess on my shoes.

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 19:50 | 1492481 Misean
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You can't really dust for vomit.
Mon, 07/25/2011 - 21:54 | 1492914 Cognitive Dissonance
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Actually you can. DNA from the stomach acids and cells from the stomach wall with the vomit.

DNA bitches.

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 22:57 | 1493198 Bonesetter Brown
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