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The Perfect Storm - Santelli Meets Farage

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The undisputed champion of European political ranting (UKIP's Nigel Farage) discussed the sad reality of Europe's inevitable demise with the reigning US chief of non-hype Rick Santelli in a no-holds-barred cage-match of like-minded skeptics. From Rajoy's incompetence to the 'genius of mutual indebtedness', Farage explains the problem is 'bedeviled with complexity' as, for example, the last summit left "the Finnish and Dutch finance ministers leaving with a very different perspective on what happened than the rest" and now even Merkel is arguing domestically what she has and has not agreed to. From the simple self-referential idiocy of Spain's EUR100 billion bailout - that creates vicious circles on all the peripheral 'bailing' nations; to "the same bundle of money going round and round in circles" leaving Nigel tempted to describe it as "a giant ponzi scheme"; Santelli, not to be outdone, explains how the US is just such a money-circulating ponzi scheme as "one part of the government issues debt as another part is buying". The ECB, of course, is becoming plagued with more and more of the ponzi-like peripheral paper and as Farage notes "the day Greece leaves the Euro - and it will - the ECB is left with a massive paper loss" leaving the ECB under-capitalized - which in all its wonderful craziness means "it has to go and get fresh capital from the other countries that themselves have been bailed out and are in fact in trouble". A farcical perfect storm as the "medicine is killing the patient", and he fears if the nettle is not grasped (Euro break-up) now then the markets will overwhelm the whole thing this summer.



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Mon, 07/09/2012 - 12:41 | 2598904 zero19451945
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What really gets me is the sheer inability of "market participants" to perform simple arithmetic and figure out that Europe is totally busted. The US is in a similar position.

The only people who have any sense are the ones selling Spanish (junk) bonds.

I blame a lot of it on HFT as it shortens the time horizons.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 12:51 | 2598933 Precious
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The perfect storm would be if John McCain met the windshield of a bus.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:03 | 2598986 theTribster
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Couldn't agree more.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:18 | 2599051 Vagabond
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I'd rather see Cheney hit the windshield... but either way is a strong step in the right direction.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 15:02 | 2599442 verum quod lies
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What cave did you just crawl out of Golum? He already did.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:14 | 2599037 TeMpTeK
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Who the hell is Nigel Faronz?

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:47 | 2599144 runlevel
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LOL i was thinking the same thing.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 14:35 | 2599330 I am a Man I am...
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Santelli sure seems to be pronouncing his name incorrectly, or maybe I've been pronouncing it incorrectly.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 15:50 | 2599685 I am on to you
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Just a litle help:

In all modesty:

Substitute,G in Garage to F,and put a litle Frence sound in it,and the wheels should turn.

The man is fantastic,a knife thats cuts through,The Eliterian high classed plumcake toppins.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 15:25 | 2599524 LouisDega
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Whos Nigel Farage? Nobody. Who are you? Do you know who i am?

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 16:34 | 2599872 SilverFish
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Is that you, John Wayne?


                   Is this me?

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 17:29 | 2600041 LouisDega
Mon, 07/09/2012 - 15:11 | 2599489 Stock Tips Inve...
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Indeed, the situation in Europe is getting worse. Both the economy and the markets will suffer falls very important, so it is very important to be placed in the appropriate place in the market.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 20:23 | 2600595 stocktivity
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Farage and Santelli get it.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 12:46 | 2598905 Cognitive Dissonance
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I love two-fers.

Italy must borrow at 7% in order to lend that borrowed money to Spain at 3%. Too freaking funny.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 12:46 | 2598911 Seize Mars
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Usually that costs extra, Cotton.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 12:52 | 2598938 CrashisOptimistic
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That's Spain's 10 year bond.  Present yield: 7.062%

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 12:59 | 2598968 Cognitive Dissonance
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Italy is close.

"The rate on 10-year Italian debt climbed eight basis points to 6.11 percent and reached 6.18 percent, the highest since June 28."

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:13 | 2599032 Comay Mierda
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If CNBC had more guests with common sense like Farage

maybe their ratings would go up

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 14:24 | 2599285 IndicaTive
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Perhaps. But not their ad revenue.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:36 | 2599095 Againstthelie
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What else can be expected from globalists?

Mr. Barroso is Maoist, a fan of the biggest mass murderer in history! And the western media, exemplary democrats who are upset if someone doesn't like jews, don't even find it worth to inform the people about the extreme political agenda..

Angela Merkel, was working for agitation & propaganda in the communist GDR and was a StaSi (the murderous political police of the GDR) informer called "IM Erika", is the political daughter of former FRG chancellor Henoch Kohn (under the Pseudonym aka "Helmut Kohl"), also a follower of Coudenhove-Kalergi's racist Pan-European-ideology from 1924, which was sponsored by Warburg and Rothschild, about performing a genozide of the white european nations with mass immigration from Asia and Africa. This ideology is the official ideological foundation of the EU and the media are silent about the criminal ideology behind it!

The whole EU establishment is marxistic and their REAL agenda is the destruction of the homogenous white european nation states and establish the euroean part of world government as part of the NWO.

If someone begins to understand, that the EU establishment follows the most extreme political agenda humans can think about, it's not all all surprising, to see the criminal mental illness which Marxism is, spread with it's absurdity into the financial world.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:42 | 2599129 Zero Debt
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They make it up on volume

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 14:02 | 2599199 Henry Hub
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It's kind of like the United States borrowing money from China to give to Israel.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 14:14 | 2599235 JohnKozac
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I hate common sense and facts...they are so old hat.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 12:48 | 2598918 LoneStarHog
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This is like a room full of people requiring CPR.  They perform the procedure on one another.  Okay, now you blow and I will beat. Okay, now you beat and I will blow.  Okay, now you blow and I will beat. Okay, .....

WTF! How long can this go on before the whole damn room is full of dead bodies?

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 12:50 | 2598925 Dr. No
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Remember this is not a 100% efficient system.  Things are skimmed off the top on every hand off.  Some people are getting rich.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:05 | 2598996 Precious
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The banks are not too big to fail.  They are too big to succeed.  

At this point, they are resorting to skimming off the bottom.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:12 | 2599025 Cognitive Dissonance
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Roubini was saying that the Too Big To Fail banks have become Even Bigger To Fail.


Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:23 | 2599074 MachoMan
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Issue: Banks insolvent and pose systemic risk to global economy

Response: Give them more money (borrowing from central bank, who is creating it out of thin air)

Result: Banks incentivized to become more and more systemically important to get more and more money.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:46 | 2599142 goforgin
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That is why the crisis is fabricated. And blow hards like Farage only serve to confuse the public.


Mon, 07/09/2012 - 15:24 | 2599557 steelhead23
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Dude, You need to take a red pill.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 20:06 | 2600541 i-dog
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Ignore collaborators.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:13 | 2599030 potlatch
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It is this fact that turns the entire global financial system from a laughable farce to what I call a "guillotine-ready public works opportunity."

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 12:48 | 2598919 Shizzmoney
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These two should have a 30 minute chat about the Euro Crisis. 

THAT would be fun television!

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:09 | 2599008 ITrustMyGut
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hellz ya! lol


grate popcorn munching content that would be...

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 12:48 | 2598920 mrktwtch2
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this is obama nation... we dont want to hear or know the truth..1plus 1 equals 4 not

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 12:48 | 2598921 AnAnonymous
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US citizen media circus. It is all great fun, offuscates reality to the most voluptuous pleasure of US citizens and the talking mouths are well paid.

Everyone is happy.

US citizenism at work.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 12:52 | 2598930 Temporalist
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Your comments offuscate reality to voluptuous pleasure of nobody.  Farage is English, a Brit, from the UK.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 12:59 | 2598969 AnAnonymous
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He is a proponent of 'Americanism'

Get on the page.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:06 | 2599000 Global Hunter
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AnAnon you are a one trick pony that was never funny or eye opening from the get go.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:16 | 2599043 akak
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Correction: AnAnnoyingMouse has been an autistic, retarded, bigoted and simple-minded one trick pony from the get go.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:18 | 2599050 AnAnonymous
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Austistic from what? bigoted against what?

Remember your own US citizen propaganda: 'Americanism', 'Americans' are not supposed to exist. They are all supposed to be figments of my imagination.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:21 | 2599063 HellFish
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Christ you're tedious.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:54 | 2599167 BeetleBailey
BeetleBailey's picture's assholius

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 15:36 | 2599620 Ima anal sphincter
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Now.....hold on there.......

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:55 | 2599173 AnAnonymous
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And US citizenism is what? Lethal?

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 14:03 | 2599201 akak
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That which is mythical cannot be lethal.

(Except that, having been created in your own mind, it has clearly been lethal to your mind.)

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:29 | 2599091 Global Hunter
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akak you left out tedious (thanks to hellfish below) that sums it up I think, normally I don't respond to him but holy shit its like a swarm of flies that poster.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:34 | 2599103 akak
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Correction: like a swarm of flies around a roadside pile of Chinese shit.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:53 | 2599163 AnAnonymous
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The smell of US citizenism must attract me here.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:57 | 2599183 TheFourthStooge-ing
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The smell of US citizenism must attract me here.

That smell which you find so attractive is your own unwiped ass.

Bear with it.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 14:34 | 2599326 AnAnonymous
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I could smell that anywhere I go.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 14:41 | 2599362 Temporalist
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That is the best comment you've ever made

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 14:42 | 2599363 LULZBank
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Hahahaha,,, ROFL.

Infact, after a while you get used to the smell and dont notice it.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 14:47 | 2599385 AnAnonymous
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Or the smell of US citizenism suppresses it.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 14:52 | 2599407 LULZBank
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You crack me up man!!! Really know how to wind people up! LOL

Dont worry about these US Citizen losers, Im with you and thats all you need with Chicken Chow Mein.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 16:38 | 2599366 akak
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I could smell that anywhere I go.

And in China, you undoubtedly do, on public sidewalks and roadsides, indeed.

Only among Chinese Citizenism citizens is the art of defecating in public like pre-roasted dogs considered an art form, and raised to the highest levels.  Almost, in fact, as high as the levels of hyperbolic insanitation prevailing among autistic and retarded Chinese Citizenism online trolls.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 15:24 | 2599560 TheFourthStooge-ing
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AnAnonymous, referring to his attraction to the aroma of his own unwiped ass, said:

I could smell that anywhere I go.

...and I'm sure that you do exactly that.

+1 for the lulz!

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 14:20 | 2599266 BeetleBailey
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you stink up this place...for sure

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 14:48 | 2599389 AnAnonymous
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Hard to stink up a place full of US citizens...

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 15:09 | 2599482 akak
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And yet, your excellingness in such matters is beyond disputationalizing.

Chinese Citizenism New World Odor.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:58 | 2599180 francis_sawyer
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blobbing up...

Edit: (speaking of blobbing up) ^

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:58 | 2599188 Global Hunter
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Akak now I stand corrected :) 

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 16:34 | 2599873 Gideon Gono
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two points:  (1) you are correct he is an asshole, (2) leave autistic people out of it. 

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:16 | 2599044 AnAnonymous
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Eye opening? US citizens know of themselves, their eternal US citizen nature.

As to entertainment...

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:42 | 2599134 Itch
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There's "sum ting wong" with you. I just cant put my finger on it.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:54 | 2599169 AnAnonymous
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Dont worry, there is nothing wrong about you as there is something right about you: you have shown your US citizenism in two sentences.

Very good.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 14:00 | 2599193 Itch
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I cant help it man, they keep waving the flag at me and telling me stuff through the TV, my citizenism cant be escaped from. Its like a monster or something.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 14:33 | 2599321 AnAnonymous
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Citizenism? Nope, US citizenism.

US citizenism is 'Americanism'

And that 'Americans' are to express their nature, well, it is a given as it is eternal.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 15:39 | 2599637 Itch
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Well im not an American cheif, so it seems you really do have your wires crossed. You have mixed up the objective with the subjective somewhere along the line, its all gone horribly wrong. Stop talking in verbal parabola's, calm down.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 14:18 | 2599254 JimBowie1958
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Dont worry, there is nothing wrong about you as there is something right about you: you have shown your US citizenism in two sentences.

Do you  even have the slightest clue about the bullshit you are throwing around?

I didnt think so.

Your posts are like some kids cartoon Babblefished into chinese and then babblefished back into English.

You make no fucking sense at all and you dont grasp that simple thing apparently.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 14:24 | 2599284 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Unfortunately, coherence and consistency are not a priority for AnAnonymous.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 14:31 | 2599316 AnAnonymous
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Unfortunately, coherence and consistency are not a priority for AnAnonymous.

Unfortunately? Why would that be that?

Coherence and consistency, US citizens have known a lot about that or the lack of.

US citizens are the people who declared liberty a an unalienable right to human beings and who kept slavery up.

How coherent is that? How consistent is that?

The lack of coherence and consistency is top priority for US citizens.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 14:29 | 2599304 AnAnonymous
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You didnt think so? You changed your mind?

For US citizens, the group is all. Watching US citizens jumping on the band wagon of the chinese angle is exquisite.

The proud US citizen individualists have no other recourse but jumping on wagons like Chinese citizenism...


Mon, 07/09/2012 - 17:42 | 2600090 akak
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The proud US citizen individualists have no other recourse but jumping on wagons like Chinese citizenism...

Is Chinese Citizenism a wagon?

I always thought of it more as a Long March of Insanitation, a Great Leap Forward into blobbing-uppityness, as it were.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 23:29 | 2601052 TheFourthStooge-ing
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akak asked:

Is Chinese Citizenism a wagon?

I always thought of it more as a Long March of Insanitation, a Great Leap Forward into blobbing-uppityness, as it were.

Ah, ah, being that resultation of looking through unjaundiced eyes of US citizenism.

Chinese citizenism yes being of a wagon. You never the hearing of Chairman Mow's little red wagon?

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 14:37 | 2599335 LULZBank
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If you keep up, after a while you can make sense out of his posts and realise, hes quite witty and sharp. Really good for the LULZ in the greater scheme of things.

US Citizens should shake his hand.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 15:29 | 2599582 TheFourthStooge-ing
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US Citizens should shake his hand.

He'd need to wash it first. The ripeness of insanitation is unbearable.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 23:52 | 2601097 potlatch
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yeah, you nailed this one, '58.  Maybe... it's a chatbot, being beta tested from some Hong Kong internet cafe, to auto-harass places with actually interesting threads.  It would take many, many auto-bots to overpower zh, i'm afraid.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 14:27 | 2599294 BeetleBailey
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You must be Chief Douchebag of The Citizens of Assholia, where you reside in the Lobotomy wing of Enema General Hospital in downtown Diarrhea

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 14:44 | 2599367 Temporalist
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That made me crack the fuck up and I don't know why other than its sheer immaturity.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:14 | 2599035 aminorex
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"Get on the page."  Is that you, Senator Chambers?

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:08 | 2599007 ATM
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Mon, 07/09/2012 - 19:38 | 2600436 Jolly.Roger
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Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:05 | 2598988 Zero Debt
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Black hole event horizon bend vicious circle form death spiral, no citizen escape black hole death spiral.
 - Confucius

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 12:50 | 2598922 CrashisOptimistic
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There Is No Reason For Greece To Leave The EU.  They are getting free money!  Why would they leave?  And the money they are getting is not really gotten.  That money flows right back out to service the IMF and ECB debt that they hold. They can't be cut off!

There is no treaty mechanism for a country to leave.  There is no treaty mechanism for forcing a country out. 

The flow of Euros electronically from the ECB to the Greek banks COULD be cut off, but the ECB is not subject to EU commands and as I just pointed out, the EU has no mechanism for issuing such a command.

That it is all insane is unquestioned.  But what IS questionable is this blanket presumption that Greece leaves or is forced out.  The more likely event is total disintegration, all at once, in complete upheaval.  If there is any sense of organization and structure, then the treaty holds and it does not allow countries to leave.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 12:58 | 2598966 jtmo3
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Exactly. Greece will not leave as long as free money is provided. The ecb will not stop the money for as long as it's able because if Greece leaves they are broke. And it goes on and on. It's a complete circle jerk. And this is just one example. Germany is in the same boat. They can't cave at this point. They played their cards long ago and are commited. To pull out now would break them. 


This will not end well.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:15 | 2599038 potlatch
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yes, I always listen for the points where an analyst says "it's obvious, of course it's going to happen" -- that is their blind spot, usually, the limit or premise of their ability to think through the chessboard.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 14:17 | 2599250 youngman
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I think the ECB will ask for more money from its members...and no one will pay...that is what will happen in my end of the EURO....what will they do..write a nasty letter??????....will they just print then...or will they fold...will they give money equally to everyone according to their share..or only to their friends that did what they said to do????  Simon Says...od Simon didn´t is a joke now...Spains new it was just a few short months ago where Rajoy said no problems here in Spain....but gold and silver are down.....?????  fixed pricing at $1600 I 20 years when this is studied and written will be a sad story full of lies, corruption, cheating, stealing, and finally murder

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 12:51 | 2598924 Hurdy Gurdy Man
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I like the reporter, but the "... turn another chapter..." - he's too pumped. 


Be in the world of finance, Laddie, but not *of* it - all that glad-handing, back-slapping up-ness HAS GOT TO GO


Center the energy, breathe, and don't be a goddamn cheerleader for Pete's sake

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 12:50 | 2598928 stant
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god i love to see these two address congress and obama

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 12:50 | 2598929 resurger
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Don't you fucking love to have ZH as your home page!!


Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:01 | 2598979 Global Hunter
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I do indeed

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 12:52 | 2598937 XRAYD
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As long as the Ledner of last resort and the SPender of last resort are one and the same, and all can be borrowers, What is the problem?

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 12:52 | 2598940 Debt-Is-Not-Money
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"medicine is killing the patient"

Spot on - Just like a cancer patient on chemo!

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:37 | 2599108 tony wilson
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"medicine is killing the patient"

 cancer patient on chemo!


that is because the rockafella and rothschilds.

run the london and wall street money  markets.

run cancer giving nuclear power markets.

run cancer giving  depleted uranium nato missile markets

and run the cancer giving and medical care hospital and drugs markets.

an inbred elites version of the  problem,reaction ,solution equation

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 12:53 | 2598945 Itch
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If they're going to make a decent tag team Rick has to stop calling him Ferange.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:10 | 2599010 ATM
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That's just Chicago coming out.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:51 | 2599159 Zero Debt
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Pronounced with a French accent it could be a unit of BS exposure within sanity limits. Recommended maximum daily dose: 50 Ferange. 1 TOTUS speech = 30 Ferange. 1 Fed speech = 35 Ferange. 1 Cramer Stockpick = 10 Ferange, and so on

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 12:53 | 2598946 101 years and c...
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all you need to know:

spain owes 90B EUR to ESM.

greece owes 25B EUR

italy owes 125B EUR

in other words, the ESM will never even be activated.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 12:53 | 2598949 Conman
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Atta boy Ricky throw him the ol' #1.


Mon, 07/09/2012 - 12:54 | 2598951 Snakeeyes
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Fraance joins Germany and Switzerland in the negative yield club. This is will NOT end well.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 12:54 | 2598952 BandGap
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Throw in Biderman for a THREE-WAY!

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 12:55 | 2598955 Crispy
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Farage for POTUS.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:00 | 2598973 Debt-Is-Not-Money
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(It's no longer required that the POTUS be a natural-born any more)

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 12:56 | 2598958 d_taco
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Has anybody told Farage that the City is collapsing?

If we wait an other year his UK Banking masters are out of business and Farage is will lost his funding.



Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:04 | 2598987 Global Hunter
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He seems fairly level headed to me, I'm pretty sure he knows the situation in London and the UK.  Thanks tho for the heads up

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 12:58 | 2598962 azzhatter
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I think total disintegration is more likely. Countries realize they are fucked either way- in or out so they go for the change.

I would like to see Jon Corzine in prison with the same choice- either he takes Bubba's lovestick in his mouth or up his ass, neither option is pretty but either way he's gettin a lovestick

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 12:59 | 2598967 Dustin de Wynde
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Jimmy Cagney had it right, back in the day, when he was running the West Berlin Coca-Cola offices during the Cold War:

'You mean that I have been a Capitalist for only 3 hours and already I owe $10 thousand dollars!?1!'

"That's what makes our System work, everybody owes everybody.'

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:06 | 2598999 Rastamon
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DUMB and DUMBER - part DUH


don't you libertarians get tired of your hypocritical fingerpointing at the eeeevil guv'ment all the time? how terrible it must be to constantly KNOW DEEP DOWN that the person to blame for this mess is looking back at you in the mirror.


but then, denial always transforms into something else.... which explains the virulency of the libertarian CULTISTS' when their delusions are challenged.


Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:10 | 2599011 Global Hunter
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Hey so called Rastamon, ever heard of Rastafari speak of Babylon as in "Babylon will collapse" or burn?  They're talking about the same things.

The Collieman

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:34 | 2599102 NotApplicable
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What's really funny here is that you aren't even trying to troll, but rather, are likely this incoherent naturally (unless you're purposely putting forth a fail troll, which seems kind of a waste of time).

Not even worth a down-vote.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:36 | 2599107 GeneMarchbanks
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'CNBC sucks!' -- Libertarian doofus

'Ooooo Farage is on! Quick make it the featured ZH article!

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 14:39 | 2599352 LULZBank
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Now, that is definitely US Citizenism at work!

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:38 | 2599117 pods
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As a libertarian, I in fact do see the problem in the mirror.  Hence why I will not go further into debt.

But that does not mean that I cannot get angry at my never resting government borrowing on my behalf.


Mon, 07/09/2012 - 14:09 | 2599216 Global Hunter
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pods as a libertarian I have to agree with you and I try to remember to put pragmatism first, and as a person strongly moved by the message of Rastafari I try to pick myself up every day and try try try (like a libertarian).  My idea of a free world includes folks with ideas and dreadlocks that at first appear strange to me...I'm not sure what the Rastamon poster is on about to be honest as Peter Tosh said "there are many men who were dreadlocks and they're a million miles away from Rasta, they are night and day...Rasta is about righteousness".  Which to me means speaking the truth, or aiming to speak the truth, exactly what Santelli and Farange were doing here in the interview.  


Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:40 | 2599125 kridkrid
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I'm noticing an interesting trend over the past few weeks... I've been seeing "Libertarian" referenced more and more.  There was an article over the past couple of days through some mainstream media source about how the Libertarian vote was going to be a swing vote come November.  I'm not sure what this is all about, but it certainly seems a little forced.  

For what it's worth... I don't think the monetary system has much of anything to do with any political party.  "Libertarians" might, on average, be in favor of some system of sound money, but the drive to politicize this as a "libertarian" issue seems odd... seems like a set-up, somehow.  The FACT that our global monetary system is a debt based ponzi scheme is completely apolitical.  Completely.  It is, rather, a simple fact of how money comes to be.  The system may leverage a political apparatus to grow beyond what it otherwise could, but the Ponzi scheme itself is NOT political... Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, Social Democrat, Green Party, etc.  

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:06 | 2599001 digalert
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Do you think state propaganda CNBS allowing Farage and Santelli to speak the truth means the zombie network see's the writing on the wall?

World FIAT currency experiments are a failure, admit it.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:36 | 2599110 NotApplicable
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No, it means it's too late to avoid the consequences, so they can now start to appear like they are "leading" rather than following the debate.

Gotta keep those last three viewers, ya know.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:11 | 2599020 theTribster
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Nigel is the man. He lets the technoeurocrats have it everytime he gets up and talks, they hate him. As the story continues to unfold it becomes more and more obvious that Europe is crashing and burning while Germany decides if it will stay or go, probvably 50-50 at this point. That would be the ultimate market destroyer, at least for a short term. Can you imagine "Germany Departs the Eurozone" as a headline one morning in the not too distant future?

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:28 | 2599089 Debt-Is-Not-Money
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When Nigel speaks to those a-holes he acts the part of the French soldier in "Monty Python and the Holy Grail":



Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:41 | 2599131 Money 4 Nothing
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Parliment: Seize him!!


Nigel: Yo.. Seize THIS!

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:19 | 2599053 jimijon
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Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:41 | 2599130 NotApplicable
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Absolutely NOT. WTF is up with using Ponzi to smear capitalism? Is there nothing to be done that is NOT wholly destructive to society?

Great idea.

Insanely homicidal implementation. You're promoting the Mark of the Beast at the same time as trying to demote it.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:21 | 2599062 Dubious Maximus
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The whole Eurozone experiment is "beginning to resemble a John Ponzi scheme". 

There you have it folks.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:21 | 2599065 world_debt_slave
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great stuff, I was also having green screen issues on youtube vids. Turns out with an update to Adobe Flashplayer, one needs to right click on the youtube vid, go to settings and uncheck "use hardware acceleration.". Worked for me.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:32 | 2599097 bugs_
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Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:35 | 2599105 Dr. Engali
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I wish they hadn't cut that piece so short. I would love to have heard more.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:36 | 2599112 Miss Expectations
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"Never in the history of mankind have so many owed so much to so few"


Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:37 | 2599113 Money 4 Nothing
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Go Rick! And Nigel for President, Rick for VP slot. The truth is refreshing!





Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:53 | 2599141 slewie the pi-rat
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i think it is funny when tyler can't get the TV clips from the MSM to work right

if he blows him self up at this point, who would be surprised? or even care? mauldin and casey? and mittens? some guy with a pig-tail? rPaul? soros? haroldCamping?

funny, tho, tyler!

keep drinking! maybe buy some more kool-aid too?  L0L!!! 

LQQK!  more "lime-flavored QE" for tyler!  this is from the canadian "austrian" fuktard!  a gift!  just in time for the fight against socialism too

zH 2012 is certainly no "repeat of 2011";  neither have the markets been, of course, btw...  those who said so early just got "majority junked"



Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:53 | 2599165 GeneMarchbanks
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Raw-Money 2012!


Mon, 07/09/2012 - 14:51 | 2599405 tongue.stan
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they say if you set a rodent in front of a keyboard, eventually he will make sense

they are wrong

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 20:24 | 2600598 i-dog
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LOL ... laugh of the day!

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:47 | 2599143 AlamoJack
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You are right - we are PHUCKING tired AND...AND the guvmint IS evil - thanks for reminding us.  Have you read anywhere what (as Americans-that you obviously dislike) can do legally to stem this tide of guvmint hypocracy and thievery?  We would all luv to hear your take on what a course of action should be Einstein.

Burma Shave

Stay on the Road

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:58 | 2599186 Money 4 Nothing
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Permant fix? Rebuh-lushun. Temporary fix Civil Disobediance. But were just going to sit and smoke Hopium, braeath aluminum oxide and drink Floridation and do shot's of Aspertaime. Americans are not just lazy, but we think were entitled, there within lies the problem. 

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:49 | 2599154 MeBizarro
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"US chief of non-hype Rick Santelli"

Rick Santelli is a few things but this isn't one of them.  He's a ratings whore who uses his share of hype and buzz words to grab attention.  Doesn't mean I don't think he makes some general valid points but he isn't a non-hype type.  

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:54 | 2599170 MeBizarro
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Brings on the thumbs down if you will but if you don't see that Rick Santelli isn't just another side of the opposite coin in the ratings game, you are either too dumb or too slow to recognize the hustle. 

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 14:29 | 2599305 Henry Hub
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I think Rick Santelli knows the score (unlike some of the other air heads) but, come on, he works for CNBC. He can only go so far. He's very careful to hint at the truth but the guy probably has a mortgage and kids at college. If he goes too far on CNBC, he's down the memory hole.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 15:21 | 2599538 blunderdog
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The problem with Santelli is he's a fuckin' IDIOT.

Sure, he's got the most basic things down--the government is spending too much, the dole has to end, the "real economy" can't function buried under hundreds of thousands of pages of bullshit from the Feds, etc.

But at the end of the day, he's just a loudmouth moron making the right noises to draw his audience.  The fact that he doesn't know the name of the interviewee isn't in itself proof of his idiocy, but it is a symptom.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 13:56 | 2599174 mark7
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"UKIP has never won a seat in the House of Commons. UKIP holds two in the unelected House of Lords, both due to defections from Conservative peers. It has 12 seats in the European Parliament, down from 13 won due to defections; but one gained from the defection of Roger Helmer from the Conservative Party"

So this is the "voice of UK"?! I guess Montana Militia or KKK should be considered as "voice of Americans" then...

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 20:48 | 2600665 mendolover
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I would say he is the voice of sanity.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 14:13 | 2599230 EmileLargo
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The German capacity for sef-delusion knows no bounds. I was talking to a German friend the other day and he said that the "Anglo Saxon media" underestimates the "resolve" of the Europeans to keep this thing together. Well, my friend, you get what you ask for. Sorry. You and your country are going to be utterly ruined. The savings of an entire generation will be pissed down a black hole and will be gone for good. It will be like trying to rebuild an economy after WWII - with massive misallocation of capital over an entire generation. The stupidity of this knows no bounds. 

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 15:21 | 2599542 Winston of Oceania
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The is a heaping pile of GS at the end of every "black hole" with money being thrown into it.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 20:31 | 2600611 i-dog
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France is a "safe haven"?!

Wow! ... Alice was right ... we're not in Kansas any more.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 14:40 | 2599337 goforgin
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So how does Ireland, one of the northern most countries, become a member of the prestigious PIIGS Mediterranean Club? I guess it must be that lowest corporate tax rate of 12.5%!

Since there are no corporate taxes to speak off in the Club Med member countries, a chief characteristics that PIIGS have in common is low or non-existent corporate taxation.

Since corporate taxes are nothing but trivial($175-250 billion paid by US corporation, a contribution rate that is 10 times lower than that of individuals), it won't be long for PIIGS to become PIIGS 'n US.

Low corporate taxation leads to deficit spending and debt. Don't believe me, look at real tax rates in PIIGS 'n US.


Mon, 07/09/2012 - 15:20 | 2599531 Winston of Oceania
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Corporate taxation is simply passed on to the end bagholder, er I mean user which just happens to be YOU...

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 14:39 | 2599348 QE49er
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Roubini: “Levitational force of policy easing can only temporarily lift asset prices as gravitational forces of weaker fundamentals dominate over time."

In other words, crack can temporarily get you high and the withdrawal fundamentals will eventually dominate you making you into an addicted zombie slave to the central banks.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 14:42 | 2599364 goforgin
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Crack up boom.

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