Pershing Square Loses 6.7% In First Two Weeks Of August, Down 11% For The Year

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Doode's picture

I am up ~11% in August and almost 35% this year.

Pladizow's picture

Perhaps you should charge 2 & 20!

Doode's picture

Working on it...


PS. All unlevered

Cdad's picture

Shorting group think stocks just now is good business.  The Wall Street lemming crowd is currently dressed in blaze orange making it quite easy to spot them.


Doode's picture

You must belong to the group that says - the easy money has been made. Now it is a stock picker's market - lol. I made 40+% last year and the year before was 30% and the year before and the year before...

HelluvaEngineer's picture

I find your ideas intriguing and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Doode's picture

No newsletter or any advertising - just saying for posterity...

Boston's picture

Yeah, that's the ticket.  And you're married to Morgan Fairchild, right?.

Manzilla's picture

You beat me. I'm only up 15% on the year. Unlevered as well. I charge 2.5/20.

Dr. Engali's picture

It's been a good year for me. Long gold and silver. Had BAC and GS puts. Now I will move that money into gold on the next pull back.

Doode's picture

Yeah, those do offer higher rates of return on higher risk, but I only have US equities trading mandate atm. Trying to get a permission for futures and options as well.

Cursive's picture

Bill Ackman? Isn't he the con man who based an entire hedge fund on one ticker: TGT? Yeah, 2 and 20 to "manage" one holding of Target.

lynnybee's picture

l.o.l. ....... luv Dr. Faber, he's the whole reason i got so involved in this story, the guy is just the best !

swissaustrian's picture

The only REAL hedge funds are managed futures (CTAs) funds. Systematic trading, bitchez!

nah's picture

its only money bitchez

slaughterer's picture

Ackman's new project is JC Penney. 

Stoploss's picture

He's the one who tries to be like Ichann, only his shoes are about 10 sizes smaller. If you want to completly fuck up a company, this is the guy to get it done.

slaughterer's picture

Icahn has alot of people working for him.  Without them, he would be unwinding his funds.  He is too old for the business, IMO, and should pull a Soros.

Ackman shorted MBI in 2007-2008, but seems to not be operating much of a short portfolio these days.  Too bad.

The guy I miss is Michael Burry: he wound down his Scion funds in 2008 and is now just a private investor.  He communicates very little about his positions nowadays, but his speeches about the macro direction help you see his investment thesis is roughly similar to ZH.

Pladizow's picture

Burry advocates farmland.

Only easy way I know to play is CRESY.

Anyone have alternatives?

kito's picture

farmland is profitable if food prices rise. RJA is great play on food commodities. its a rogers inexed fund. solid.

Yardstick of Civilization's picture

Icahn was right about Motorola . . . not sure if he stuck around long enough to make money on that call, but he's been trumpeting the value in that company for years.  Not that I'm a fan of his, but credit where credit is due.

Dr. Engali's picture

Ackman is a one trick poney.

kito's picture

tyler, how is volume looking on todays surge? or is that a rhetorical question....

ArkansasAngie's picture

Here's hoping that every last TBTF and hedge fund has double digit losses.  Wipe them from the face of the earth.

Insolvency is the only way to uproot these shatheads.

Bernanke needs to defect to China today ... his work is done

KevinH's picture

What's the time frame for the YTD. It must not include Aug because short bias is down YTD?

FoieGras's picture

How's Seth Klarman doing this year?

Fox-Scully's picture

They need faster algos!

walküre's picture

What that means is that the funds will need to get off their asses and start putting money into real deals with good upside.

"Risk On" will be taken to a whole new level. The Fed backstopping the markets, ZIRP until 2013 and the money managers need to get very creative.

Could be that a spending binge is coming, like we haven't seen since the Nineties and era.

No returns, no fees and the funds go bankrupt. Only way out for them is to be aggressive and moving forward on everything that looks promising.

They're going ALL IN. All on BLACK so to speak.

Whatever moves, has a heartbeat and can't climb the trees fast enough will get nailed and has to take the money.

Please, please take the money! If it doesn't work out, we will worry about it later.. say in 2013?

This is the nature of American Capitalism. Forget higher interest rates. Forget more QE. Forget higher taxes. Now comes the FLUSH of hoarded cash into the draught stricken financial system from funds which are at a DEAD END street.

Bam_Man's picture

Ackman is a genius. Just like Ed Lampert.

The only problem is that these guys eventually start believing their own bullshit.

Earl of Chiswick's picture


(just don't forget to cancel if it's coming out of your own pocket)