Pershing Square Loses 6.7% In First Two Weeks Of August, Down 11% For The Year

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Tue, 08/23/2011 - 11:16 | 1590363 Doode
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I am up ~11% in August and almost 35% this year.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 11:17 | 1590367 Pladizow
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Perhaps you should charge 2 & 20!

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 11:20 | 1590373 Doode
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Working on it...


PS. All unlevered

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 11:27 | 1590401 Cdad
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Shorting group think stocks just now is good business.  The Wall Street lemming crowd is currently dressed in blaze orange making it quite easy to spot them.


Tue, 08/23/2011 - 11:31 | 1590414 Doode
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You must belong to the group that says - the easy money has been made. Now it is a stock picker's market - lol. I made 40+% last year and the year before was 30% and the year before and the year before...

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 11:32 | 1590416 HelluvaEngineer
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I find your ideas intriguing and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 11:34 | 1590422 Doode
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No newsletter or any advertising - just saying for posterity...

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 11:44 | 1590462 Boston
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Yeah, that's the ticket.  And you're married to Morgan Fairchild, right?.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 11:30 | 1590411 Manzilla
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You beat me. I'm only up 15% on the year. Unlevered as well. I charge 2.5/20.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 11:41 | 1590448 Dr. Engali
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It's been a good year for me. Long gold and silver. Had BAC and GS puts. Now I will move that money into gold on the next pull back.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 11:44 | 1590460 Doode
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Yeah, those do offer higher rates of return on higher risk, but I only have US equities trading mandate atm. Trying to get a permission for futures and options as well.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 11:20 | 1590377 Cursive
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Bill Ackman? Isn't he the con man who based an entire hedge fund on one ticker: TGT? Yeah, 2 and 20 to "manage" one holding of Target.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 11:22 | 1590386 baby_BLYTHE
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Marc Faber on Squawk Box CNBC 08/23/11

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 11:33 | 1590418 lynnybee
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l.o.l. ....... luv Dr. Faber, he's the whole reason i got so involved in this story, the guy is just the best !

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 11:22 | 1590387 swissaustrian
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The only REAL hedge funds are managed futures (CTAs) funds. Systematic trading, bitchez!

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 11:23 | 1590388 nah
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its only money bitchez

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 11:23 | 1590390 slaughterer
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Ackman's new project is JC Penney. 

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 11:25 | 1590397 Stoploss
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He's the one who tries to be like Ichann, only his shoes are about 10 sizes smaller. If you want to completly fuck up a company, this is the guy to get it done.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 11:30 | 1590413 slaughterer
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Icahn has alot of people working for him.  Without them, he would be unwinding his funds.  He is too old for the business, IMO, and should pull a Soros.

Ackman shorted MBI in 2007-2008, but seems to not be operating much of a short portfolio these days.  Too bad.

The guy I miss is Michael Burry: he wound down his Scion funds in 2008 and is now just a private investor.  He communicates very little about his positions nowadays, but his speeches about the macro direction help you see his investment thesis is roughly similar to ZH.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 11:38 | 1590439 Pladizow
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Burry advocates farmland.

Only easy way I know to play is CRESY.

Anyone have alternatives?

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 11:48 | 1590477 kito
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farmland is profitable if food prices rise. RJA is great play on food commodities. its a rogers inexed fund. solid.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 11:42 | 1590453 Yardstick of Ci...
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Icahn was right about Motorola . . . not sure if he stuck around long enough to make money on that call, but he's been trumpeting the value in that company for years.  Not that I'm a fan of his, but credit where credit is due.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 11:36 | 1590429 Dr. Engali
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Ackman is a one trick poney.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 11:37 | 1590432 kito
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tyler, how is volume looking on todays surge? or is that a rhetorical question....

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 11:38 | 1590440 ArkansasAngie
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Here's hoping that every last TBTF and hedge fund has double digit losses.  Wipe them from the face of the earth.

Insolvency is the only way to uproot these shatheads.

Bernanke needs to defect to China today ... his work is done

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 11:47 | 1590472 KevinH
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What's the time frame for the YTD. It must not include Aug because short bias is down YTD?

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 12:03 | 1590540 FoieGras
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How's Seth Klarman doing this year?

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 12:08 | 1590561 Fox-Scully
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They need faster algos!

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 12:19 | 1590597 walküre
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What that means is that the funds will need to get off their asses and start putting money into real deals with good upside.

"Risk On" will be taken to a whole new level. The Fed backstopping the markets, ZIRP until 2013 and the money managers need to get very creative.

Could be that a spending binge is coming, like we haven't seen since the Nineties and era.

No returns, no fees and the funds go bankrupt. Only way out for them is to be aggressive and moving forward on everything that looks promising.

They're going ALL IN. All on BLACK so to speak.

Whatever moves, has a heartbeat and can't climb the trees fast enough will get nailed and has to take the money.

Please, please take the money! If it doesn't work out, we will worry about it later.. say in 2013?

This is the nature of American Capitalism. Forget higher interest rates. Forget more QE. Forget higher taxes. Now comes the FLUSH of hoarded cash into the draught stricken financial system from funds which are at a DEAD END street.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 12:45 | 1590734 Bam_Man
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Ackman is a genius. Just like Ed Lampert.

The only problem is that these guys eventually start believing their own bullshit.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 13:58 | 1591110 Earl of Chiswick
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