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Pink Slime Maker Files For Bankruptcy: Pink Slips Galore As The Pink Sheets Beckon

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In the first of two major bankruptcy stories du jour (the next one coming up shortly), we learn that AFA Foods, best known for being the maker of "pink slime", and a portfolio company of labor unions and Clinton afficionado Ron Burkle and his PE firm Yucaipa, has just filed for bankruptcy. The reason? The sudden public realization what pink slime is, and just how prevalent it is - perhaps it is best to think of it as the Bernie Madoff of the food industry - it was always there, yet it took a wholesale shift in public awareness and consciousness for the firm to realize it would have been prudent to come up with a slightly different name for its ground-beef product. As for whether or not the company is going to the pink sheets, well no. But one thing is certain: the management team is about to get a pink slip.

From Bloomberg:

Celebrity chef Jamie Oliver is among food activists who have criticized the use of what they dubbed “pink slime,” a filler produced by treating finely ground beef scraps with ammonia hydroxide to kill pathogens. Beef Products Inc. last week temporarily suspended production at three plants because of consumer concerns. U.S. Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack said March 28 that the product, referred to in the industry as lean, finely textured beef, is safe to eat.


“Ongoing media attention has called into question the wholesomeness” of the meat, and has “dramatically reduced the demand for all ground beef products,” AFA interim Chief Executive Officer Ron Allen said in court papers.


Ground beef demand will soften in the next several months as consumers shift to meat that doesn’t contain the lean, finely textured beef, said Ann Gurkin, an analyst for Davenport & Co. Last month, the USDA said schools in the government’s lunch program can order ground beef without the product following public pressure to remove it from cafeterias.

It is initially unclear what impact on cattle prices this development will have, as there are major shifts in both supply and demand.

Reduced use of the product will further tighten beef supplies, said Gurkin, a Richmond, Virginia-based analyst who has a “buy” rating on Tyson. U.S. beef production will drop 4.4 percent in 2012 from a year earlier, the USDA forecast March 9.


Given the issue has only come up in the past few weeks, the effect on Tyson’s sales and earnings is unclear, Gurkin said. She said she is “monitoring” it because demand usually rises with the approaching summer grilling season in the U.S.


Among AFA’s largest unsecured creditors listed in court papers are meat suppliers Orleans International Inc., owed $8.3 million, and Tyson Fresh Meats (IBP), owed $3.27 million.

One thing is certain: the company's 850 workers are about to be without a job, which ironically is good - in the BLS' seasonally adjusted lexicon this means a gain in jobs.

AFA has about 850 full-time employees and annual revenue of $958 million, according to the statement. The company obtained a $56 million credit line from GE Capital and Bank of America Corp. (BAC) to carry it through the bankruptcy process.

While one can hope that as a result of this food fiasco Americans will become more self-aware about the color of the slime they ingest, one would be wise to not hold their breath: after all we are talking about America here.

By the way, the caption picture is not of pink slime. It is of the just as appealingly titled "meat slurry", core product of chicken "nuggets."

From Fooducate:

Guess What’s in The Picture [Foodlike Substance]



A) Strawberry ice cream

B) Chicken

C) Plastic foam

D) None of the above


Answer below


What you need to know:


Folks, this is mechanically separated chicken, an invention of the late 20th century. Someone figured out in the 1960?s that meat processors can eek eke out a few more percent of profit from chickens, turkeys, pigs, and cows by scraping the bones 100% clean of meat. This is done by machines, not humans, by passing bones leftover after the initial cutting through a high pressure sieve. The paste you see in the picture above is the result.


This paste goes on to become the main ingredient in many a hot dog, bologna, chicken nuggets, pepperoni, salami, jerky etc…


The industry calls this method AMR – Advanced Meat Recovery.


In 2004, as a result of  mad cow disease (Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy), the USDA’s Food Safety and Inspection Service (FSIS) ruled that beef could no longer be processed this way, because testing showed that parts of the bovine central nervous system ended up in the meat.


As for products using mechanically separated chicken and pork, FSIS ruled that they are safe to eat, but required them to be labeled as such.


Despite them being safe, FSIS states that no more than 20% of the meat in a hot dog come from mechanically separated pork.


What to do at the supermarket:


It’s always a better to choice to see a real cut of meat at the butcher counter in the supermarket and then decide what you want done with it. Buying something prepared in a factory, such as chicken nuggets, or hot dogs, you’ll always get the worst meat, and it will always be combined with additives and other sources of fat.


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Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:27 | 2310870 swissaustrian
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Any chance that they have received bailout and/or stimulus money?

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:33 | 2310898 ILikeBoats
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If not at the Fed level, then at the state or local level, in the form of "re-training" or other money.  The way this scam works is, once you get to a certain size of company, you can threaten to move elsewhere - so in order to retain jobs the state will give you some benefits in order to keep them where they are.  The workers get the same pay, no raises, and small companies that are not large enough to qualify for these benefits also get shafted since they pay an effectively higher tax rate.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 18:18 | 2311075 Ahmeexnal
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It’s always a better to choice to see a real cut of meat at the butcher counter in the supermarket and then decide what you want done with it.



Over 50% of meat products are treated with carbon monoxide in order to restore "good looks" to decomposing meat:

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 18:28 | 2311103 5880
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relax debbie downer

stop "inhaling" your food and you'll be fine

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 18:37 | 2311128 smiler03
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If only Consumer reaction could bankrupt Governments as quickly as this.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 18:56 | 2311167 MagicHandPuppet
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Mon, 04/02/2012 - 19:27 | 2311248 Sun_Tzu
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Paging The Limerick King...

Paging The Limerick King...

Please report to the Pink Slime discount window...

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 20:39 | 2311392 AldousHuxley
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Some African country is about to get tons of "US beef" from USAID as a sign of generosity from uncle sam.


Like US did with genetically engineered corn that was rejected by EU.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 21:51 | 2311591 erg
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An endless play-doh like tube of skittled unicorn shit.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 22:17 | 2311666 hedgehog9999
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I also heard Japan is sending Fukushima fish as a goodwill gesture as well to some poor african nation.......



Tue, 04/03/2012 - 08:24 | 2312413 GetZeeGold
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Are you going to eat that?


Because if you're not....


Mon, 04/02/2012 - 20:20 | 2311343 Abitdodgie
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The picture of the pink stuff is actually chicken McNuggets before it has been bleached and shaped.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 20:33 | 2311384 AldousHuxley
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It is Barnie Frank's shit after eating taxpayer funded pork.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 19:09 | 2311210 dolly madison
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relax debbie downer

stop "inhaling" your food and you'll be fine

So if I slowly eat this ammonia soaked meat that is then turned into products filled with additives, everything will be fine.  Thanks for letting me know that.  NOT.  I'll stick to my real food diet.

You know eating better is not just about obesity.  My husband is one of the naturally thin people.  But he still felt like crap before we got off of the crap food. 

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 21:16 | 2311480 Amish Hacker
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+1  "Healthy" isn't just a matter of being careful to read the label. It's about eating things that don't have a label.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 18:33 | 2311117 SemperFord
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Depends on where you live...just saying.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 19:35 | 2311263 Dugald
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And don't forget the GLUE that is used to cobble together random lumps of meat to look like a one piece cut...bugger quality..the bottom line rules! There are more people than politicians who should be decorating lamp posts!

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 20:02 | 2311309 Miss Expectations
Tue, 04/03/2012 - 04:01 | 2312215 CompassionateFascist
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CF finishes his midnite meal of Pork Product, Wonder Bread, and lime-flavored potato chips, all washed down with Dr. Pepper's "amazingly smooth" cherry cola. Emits plangent belch. God that was good. Apparently idiots on this site think they will live forever on a diet of rocks and twigs.  

Tue, 04/03/2012 - 07:01 | 2312308 onthesquare
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All smoked meat is treated with CO.  It is the product of incomplete combustion.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 18:48 | 2311149 fightthepower
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Fuck you Bernanke!

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 22:08 | 2311632 Idiot Savant
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What's the cause of the drastic increase in obesity over the last fifteen years? Americans had soft drinks, fast food and processed foods in '94. I don't get it.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 22:23 | 2311687 hedgehog9999
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How about pink slime and related additives to food to turbocharge the food industry bottom line..... and once you get fat you have to eat more to calm down the hunger feeling, then you have to buy more xit food, they call that marginal per head incremental revenue......this revenue component is growing exponentially by the way........

wuld you like some extra pinkslime to go with that?

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 23:43 | 2311911 Cathartes Aura
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do some research on high fructose corn syrup, aspartame, GMO foods and the pesticides used with them - you'll learn more than you want to know, but it will begin to answer your question.

Tue, 04/03/2012 - 02:07 | 2312133 Marigold
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Animal growth hormones, factory raised animals and poultry,factory food,sugar,food additives,,polyunsaturated fats ie most vegetable oils,fast food all mixed with a touch of sloth and gluttony and the increasing desire for instance indulgence and gratification peddled by Hollywood . Manifested mainly by American culture but now regrettably spreading to the rest of the world by McDs , Burger King , Subway, Coke, Pepsico, Heinz, P&G, Starbucks, Fritto Lay to name but a few manufacturers of ' food of mass destruction " That is now becoming ubiquitous.

Tue, 04/03/2012 - 07:02 | 2312312 onthesquare
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but is Zero Coke realy absolute zero?

Anyone who drinks that stuff has a zero IQ

Tue, 04/03/2012 - 09:36 | 2312599 pods
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Americans have eaten more calories than they have burned.


Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:28 | 2310873 evolutionx
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Summer 2012: Iran war, crash in the markets and financial institutions


five devastating storms will mark the summer of 2012 and thus accelerate the process of world geopolitical swing:

    . US relapse into recession against the background of European stagnation and BRICS slowdown
    . dead end for the central banks and interest rate increases
    . storm on the foreign exchange and Western sovereign debt markets
    . Iran, the war ´ too far ª
    new crash in the markets and financial institutions.


Full Analysis:

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:29 | 2310879 swissaustrian
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I doubt that we'll have an Iran war before the US election.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:48 | 2310968 Not Too Important
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Launching an attack on the Iranian Oil Bourse would be like China attacking the Comex.

MAD doesn't approach what would happen next.

Besides, the BRICs all know we're radioactive. Our food, our water. They can't run away fast enough.

But they sure know who to blame.

When you're breaking up with a girlfriend, you lie just long enough to get all your stuff out before she 'nationalizes' it. And if she's batshit crazy, you sure as hell don't go back.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 18:03 | 2311029 iDealMeat
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+1,   I love the term "batshit crazy"..

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 19:26 | 2311246 SILVERGEDDON

What about the other old stand by - " Crazier than a shit house rat "

Or, the Shatner response - " Dumber than the Klingons from Uranus " 

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 21:02 | 2311438 Al Huxley
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Well said, all of you.

Tue, 04/03/2012 - 02:08 | 2312134 Coldfire
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Same, and "batshit insane", too.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 18:24 | 2311095 Ahmeexnal
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When you're breaking up with a girlfriend, you lie just long enough to get all your stuff out before she 'nationalizes' it. And if she's batshit crazy, you sure as hell don't go back.

That's why you never, never keep your PMs at your GF's place.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 18:15 | 2311063 lotsoffun
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obama already promised that - after the election he has 'more flexibility'


Tue, 04/03/2012 - 07:07 | 2312319 onthesquare
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that comment is a sad reflection on the election process.  Political science is a perversion.

Tue, 04/03/2012 - 04:07 | 2312221 CompassionateFascist
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Netanyahu intends to take down both Oran and Obama. It sure will be "before the US election". Looks like about August. Anybody w dollars or dollar-denominated paper, get out before then.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 18:02 | 2311015 Ripped Chunk
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Sounds like a fun summer. But I have been saying that every summer since 2008. Somehow people seem to hold it together.  Somehow?

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:32 | 2310887 CaptainTripps
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amazing to hear people defend pink slime


the corruption never ends


embedded fraud in every system or mode of production out there


tyler, still waiting for you to cover the wheat belly book and fits right into your recent posts about how unhealty america is


Mon, 04/02/2012 - 18:46 | 2311146 Dr Benway
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If pink slime falls into the yucky-but-safe category I'm fine with eating it, like I eat hotdogs. Or like how gummy bears are gelatin made from snouts and hoofs. I don't care, lol.

I love how everyone is aghast at the waste in the western world, and then when someone tries to utilize cattle more efficiently they get burned. Now those meatscraps will be thrown away.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 19:04 | 2311196 FEDbuster
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Nothing gets thrown away.  They will just end up in "premium" dog food, which is more expensive than pink slime.  I was in a pet store today and saw some 25lb. bags of dry dog food that were just shy of $60./bag. 

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 19:10 | 2311215 Dr Benway
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Yeah I guess you're right.

It's funny that one of the big trendy gastronomic movements right now is "snout to tail" cooking, using the whole animal.

Maybe pink slime could be rebranded as a delicacy! Taste the whiff of ground anus modified by molecular gastronomy!

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 19:23 | 2311236 CheapBastard
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"Pink pâté...

Rebrand it + $10 Million marketing with sparkling packaging on TV shows like "Dancing with the Idols"....and you will have the next Fad.

Tue, 04/03/2012 - 07:11 | 2312325 onthesquare
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Pink slime came about as a need to get rid of a waste product.  Now, with it gone, there will be a waste product again.  But not for long.  It will find its way back into the fast food and other markets.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 23:48 | 2311924 Cathartes Aura
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that would bring the slop full circle, given that "mechanically reclaimed meat" was originally used for pet food - then pets got the diseased parts, ground feathers, etc. padded out with yummy GMO grains which are giving them diabetes, colon cancers, and much more. . .

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 20:16 | 2311331 Bunga Bunga
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If you like to eat chemically processed slaughter waste, I am fine with that. Probably with the same method they could turn poop into "food".

At least I want to know the ingridients when I buy a pack of ground beef. Since they don't have to label it, I don't buy that stuff anymore.

One more reason to switch to vegetarian, organic, local or all of the above food.



Mon, 04/02/2012 - 21:34 | 2311521 New World Chaos
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Already been done by Japanese scientists:

When the BLS does its next recalibration of the consumer price index, pink slime (formerly known as "steak") will be replaced with butt loaf.

Cue Brown Slime, Poopzilla, and Fukushima Shit Sandwich comments relevant to bobola's thread immediately below.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 22:03 | 2311620 Idiot Savant
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Yeah, about the whole poop-burger thing, it's a hoax.

Tue, 04/03/2012 - 00:09 | 2311972 Dr Benway
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Dude I already know how to turn poop into food.

It's called growing mushrooms

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 22:49 | 2311773 Things that go bump
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My grandma made the best head cheese out of the sort of scraps we are talking about here (though I think it was pork and maybe chicken).  Yummy. Her blood sausage was a treat too (yes, it was made from real blood mixed with cereal and stuffed into casings).  When you slaughter your own pig not much goes to waste. The intestines are washed clean and used as casings.  The fat is trimmed off and heated and the cracklings are skimmed off. They are delicious.  Whats left is lard and is used in cooking and baking and makes the most wonderful flakey pie crust (and the centers of Oreos).  Its supposed to be hideously bad for you, but all of my grandparents lived into their 80s and 90s and cooked with lard and bacon fat.  The same holds true of beef.  The scraps you are talking about have always been eaten. It was ground up and thrown in with the sausage or in meat pies, by generations of thrifty housewives, but people used to know where their meat came from.  The only thing wrong with pink slime, besides being unappealing in form, is that the animals have not been handled with proper care and thus their meat is contaminated.  

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 23:55 | 2311941 Cathartes Aura
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the "supposed to be hideously bad for you" info came straight from the dot-gov white coat scientists, who advised staying away from that "saturated fat" and moving towards the newly engineered grease -  margarine, or seed oils like canola - the new research is coming full circle back to real meat, and fats - but to really get that ole timey health thing, no grain fed cows, hormone free, antibiotic free. . . well, you get my drift - a return to grandma's cooking (with garden garnishes!).

Tue, 04/03/2012 - 02:48 | 2312162 Marigold
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Wrong.. The bones are pressed through a pressure machine which removes all remaining meat fat and also the bone marrow along with some bone tissue. Even under freeze storage of minus 25 degrees celsius the stuff goes rancid after 5 months. It is the most unnatural meat one could devise however it greatly adds to the profit bottom line. In bygone days these bones were relegated to meat and bone meal or for boiling for making stock. Mankind now under the modern factory food system now has a virtuous cycle where everything gets recycled .... to you.

Tue, 04/03/2012 - 09:24 | 2312561 Things that go bump
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So that is why I can never find a cut of meat in the case that is bone-in anymore.  I'm certainly not arguing in favor of this pink slime stuff and I'm sure it shouldn't be added to our food without our knowledge, but the parts of the animal it is made from have generally been utilized in some form in the past.  Bone marrow is highly nutritious. That head cheese my grandmother made was held together with some gelatin-like substance that was probably made from boiling bones.  What I an sayign is that those parts of an animal are not inherently bad and as I have said, have always been utilized. There is something else wrong with this stuff.    

Tue, 04/03/2012 - 14:45 | 2314004 Cathartes Aura
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perhaps the bones are removed as shoppers don't want to pay for the added "weight" of something they're going to toss anyhow, given that so few really cook these days, beyond microwave or grilling.

Tue, 04/03/2012 - 14:52 | 2314041 Things that go bump
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I always liked a bone-in roast because the bone gives gravy a superior flavor.  I always start my soup with a bone too.  

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:38 | 2310889 bobola
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will someone else corner the pink slime market..??

New Japanese movie; Godzilla and Rodan VS the Pink Slime..........


Mon, 04/02/2012 - 19:10 | 2310942 Not Too Important
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And the Japanese Black Slime coming to a theatre near you . . .

Who knew Godzilla would turn out to be a radioactive cyanobacteria, that destroyed Tokyo? And a few other areas . . .

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 18:23 | 2311089 Offtheradar
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The Chinese, naturally...

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:31 | 2310890 alphabrew
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This was a safe product that fell victim to a bad name.  Oh, well.  At least the unemployed will be faced with higher costs for meat!  *Bullish*

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:37 | 2310918 john39
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pink slime?  you feed it to your kids then.  If the simple act of disclosure leads to revulsion among the public, your product as a real issue...

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:58 | 2311004 5880
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It's people!

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 18:56 | 2311172 Dr Benway
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BS. If people were reminded what hot dogs and gelatin candy are actually made of, sales would be hurt in the same way.

Would you feed cow snouts, tendons and lips to your kid?

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 19:06 | 2311199 FEDbuster
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The parts used to make pink slime will end up in all beef hot dogs or dog food, nothing goes to waste.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 21:36 | 2311551 Kali
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No, they will replace it with this:

Pretty bad when the people who invented it won't even try it! Coming to a McD's near you soon!

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 18:04 | 2311034 Ripped Chunk
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Safe? Like as safe as living on a diet of bread fried in fatback and Thunderbird wine?

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 18:11 | 2311053 blunderdog
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I agree with the first bit--this was a safe product.

I don't think it fell victim to a bad name, though.  I think it fell victim to the fact that most people just don't like the idea of eating scraps of animals run through a blender. 

I've never seen anyone spend more than a few minutes carving bits off a turkey carcass after Thanksgiving.  Aside from throwing some bones in a soup-pot, that stuff all gets thrown away.

It gets thrown away because people don't want to eat it.  Pink slime was enormously successful for a long time because people DIDN'T KNOW they were eating it.

What kind of business is that?

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 18:25 | 2311090 Sam Clemons
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Yup.  In actuality, chicken tendons, marrow, liver, heart, and collagen are some of the most healthy parts of the bird.  Granted, I'm sure this wasn't a free range bird, but pumped with steroids and antibiotics.  

I always make a delicioius bone broth with all the chicken left overs and grind up and eat whatever is left that isn't bones.  

And the fact that this was completely ground up, actually increases digestive ease which is beneficial for the human body.  Weird how there are always two sides to a story.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 23:56 | 2311939 i-dog
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Indeed. I would rate my 3 favourite gastronomic delicacies of all time as:

  • Pressed duck (the carcass crushed in a screw-press until every last drop is extracted, then simmered and served by a Michelin-starred chef as an incroyable sauce over duck breast)
  • Perigord goose liver (I'm salivating just thinking of it!)
  • Shanghai hairy crab (steamed, in season, with the roe ... out of this world!)
Mon, 04/02/2012 - 18:50 | 2311153 Dr Benway
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Hot dog business? Gummy bear business?

If the media ran nonstop stories about the snout and hoof gelatin gummy bears, what do you think would happen to sales?

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 19:00 | 2311183 blunderdog
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They'd SUFFER.  I think that's the point I just mentioned.

To be really accurate though--only the gummy bears.  I doubt there's anyone left who still doesn't know that hotdogs are made of all the stuff that couldn't be sold as "meat."

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 19:25 | 2311243 CheapBastard
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I think it's the "treated with ammonia" part that disturbs people. That's what I read in the original article anyway.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 23:10 | 2311822 Waffen
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this is my problem.  I dont believe the FDA, one bit.   I do not want my food "treated" with a chemical I woudlnt consume


hazard rating of 3 out of 4



People need to know that .corp is feeding them foul food that they using chemicals cleaners on to make it appear to be fresh and edible.


THIS IS OUTRIGHT THEFT BY DECEPTION.   It is immoral and wrong.  When I buy lean groudn beef, I do not expect it to be ammonio treated bone scraps.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 23:33 | 2311878 tmosley
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Lots of foods are treated with lye, which is just as toxic.  I bet you don't mind eating green olives, mandarin oranges, or pretzels.

The poison is in the dose, and the ammonium hydroxide is removed before it reaches the grill.

People have an irrational fear of chemicals, and tend to think that all chemicals are bad.  These things need to be taken on a case by case basis, and use evidence to disprove safety at a given concentration.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:31 | 2310893 DosZap
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Its been sold and used, and eaten for over 30yrs, it is 100% beef,and the coloring is from fat content.(mix of some bef/fat)

I am sure this is / has been moxed with leaner cuts and sold nationwide for years a regular ground beef.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:40 | 2310933 Not Too Important
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The solution is to have the UN ship this to Third World countries to feed to their starving schoolchildren, just like the Japanese are sending all their radioactive fish to the poor kids:

It has to be safer than Fuku fish that glows in the dark. And maybe the pink is from Starbucks insects. And Asians love insects. So there, problem solved.


Tue, 04/03/2012 - 00:04 | 2311961 Cathartes Aura
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from your link:

The fish cans will go to Cambodia and 4 other countries and will be used in school lunches to feed school children.

that will no doubt lead to more crowing about how superiour the "white" folks are, and how those "other" people just aren't as smart as anglo-amrkns.

charity!  don't forget, they hate us for our freedoms!!

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 18:09 | 2311049 yabyum
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The color comes from the number of cattle assholes in the product.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 23:11 | 2311826 Waffen
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30 years?

yeah and cancers are up, and our general health is crap.

you want to eat this?


Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:33 | 2310899 slewie the pi-rat
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marcFaber had it down to the argyles!

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 19:48 | 2311280 Hulk
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Will the real slewie the pi-rat please stand up!!!

Tue, 04/03/2012 - 01:58 | 2312127 slewie the pi-rat
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L0L!  "toTellTheTruth"

kittyCarlisle slimed me, hulkster! 

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:33 | 2310904 tmosley
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One more from the pink to the stink.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 19:00 | 2311186 Scarticia
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I saw your effluvia in the burning building thread.  You are the pink stink.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 19:57 | 2311296 tmosley
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Hey kid, if you want to be dominated by your own biases and fail to see and comprehend basic reality, feel free, but don't expect to not get called on it around here.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 20:03 | 2311314 Scarticia
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Dont patronize me.  If you believe the governments story about 9/11. you are the one not comprehending reality and being dominated by biases.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 20:15 | 2311333 tmosley
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Why shouldn't you be patronized?  You are the one who doesn't think that carbon burns hot enough to melt steel, and all manner of other counterfactual nonsense.

I hate government more than ANYONE.  But I don't allow myself to fall victim to the halo effect.

Read this sequence, paying special attention to The Death Spiral and the Cult Attractor:

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 20:22 | 2311346 Scarticia
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You are talking out of your ass.  Since you are dishonest about this, I would advise all readers to be cautious about any other thing you have to say. 

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 22:04 | 2311622 tmosley
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How am I being dishonest?  I have done nothing but point out how things really are, while you and the other truthers have done nothing but display cognitive dissonance and groupthink, and use all manner of logical fallacies in your posts, and appeal to your authority when it suits you, and deny the authority and worse, the actual logical arguments of others (fix this here:  You don't need to have a degree in engineering to know that heat will weaken steel.  You don't need a degree in physics to know that a building with a design like that of the towers will collapse into its own footprint, guided by the metal exoskeleton that was its frame.  You don't need a degree in chemistry to know that steel+aluminum+fire+massive kinetic energy=powdered oxides of those metals (I happen to have a degree in chemistry, though). 

How have I EVER been dishonest in ANYTHING I have posted?

Good God.  Do you even know who you are talking to?

You are in an affective death spiral.  Get out of it:

Tue, 04/03/2012 - 08:21 | 2312411 Scarticia
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I see you have a vested interest in espousing this lie.  If I am a truther that must make you a liar. 

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:35 | 2310909 ultimate warrior
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LOL! That headline made me give the most awkward laugh.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:36 | 2310915 Waterfallsparkles
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They need to work on Chicken Nuggets next.  They do not appear to be any different.  Same with all products containing partially seperated chicken.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:38 | 2310923 john39
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no one who watches this will eat them:

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 19:06 | 2311202 Dr Benway
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Chicken mcnuggets are made from chicken mince.

Just like that nice larb salad you get from thai restaurants.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:58 | 2310916 hedgeless_horseman
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You can have your processed foods.  I am so happy we raise, grow, or produce our own beef, chicken, rabbit, milk, eggs, cheese, fruit, nuts, beans, veggies, and herbs.  Next up is olive trees for oil to go with the vinegar we already make, then next year a big plot of sweet potatoes and more corn.

Some of my braised rabbit with white wine, shallots, rosemary, and cream.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 18:04 | 2311035 yabyum
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Hedge, Are you making whats in that wine glass? The whole plate looks great.

Tue, 04/03/2012 - 00:48 | 2312036 luckylogger
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around here we used to be able to eat rabbits. (Wild ones). Then some enviro-nut brought in wolfs fron way up north that were twice as big or close to replace our supposedly extinct population. Now they brought diseases from the north that were benighn up there but totally are fuking up our wild game. So they fuk with our domesticated animals. So we hunt and shoot elk and deer(elk are the tastey ones) and they fuk them up also.

I used to think you guys were out of this world conspiracy theorists. But after seeing what Id fish and game  and the feds did to our wild life............ I think you are 100% correct... they are trying to regulate everything , even those of us who thought we were immunne because we ate wild meet is suppossedly wild areas..... BTW I lost my glasses so cannot spell chek. :)

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 18:05 | 2311040 blu
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Alright you, that was uncalled for.

Man that looks good ... we have a bothersome pet rabbit that I've been theatening to turn into furry mittens and dinner, but then my kids give me a look that suggests it might be prudent to just build a better fence around the garden.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 18:16 | 2311067 LawsofPhysics
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Likewise.  We have also had a lot of luck with goats and the Nuwbian milk.  Very easy to keep and great at doing yard work for free.  Several acres of forrest undergrowth, no problem.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 18:41 | 2311137 Stax Edwards
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Used to have a goat that loved her own milk.  Just point her teat towards her head and squeeze she would drink it up, she absolutely loved it.  Anytime you would milk her you would have to give her a drink or she would get impatient. Everyone got a kick out of it.

If you are really adventurous I highly recommend making homemade goat cheese.  If you can get the process down it is a valuable commodity.  Lots of boutique cheese shops pay top dollar for it.  Goes for 30 a pound retail around here.  You can add fresh herbs to create different varieties.  We have some friends who dropped out of corporate life and run a gourmet cheese shop near all of the couture shops and they sell a lot of it.  Do some nice graphic design for labels and snazzy packaging and voila!

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 19:59 | 2311211 FEDbuster
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Reminds me of the Weeds episode in the Hamptons, selling pot in pretty little boxes to people with more money than sense.

Tue, 04/03/2012 - 00:14 | 2311979 Cathartes Aura
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nubians are the best, easy to raise, great personalities.  we have some coloured angora goats, good for fibre/spinning wools. . .

goat cheese with frangelico, crushed hazelnuts, dark cocoa dusting. . . *nods*

Tue, 04/03/2012 - 20:19 | 2315079 Stax Edwards
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It is excellent cheese when done right, no question.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 18:19 | 2311076 iDealMeat
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Good for you..   For the other 7 billion eaters, pink slime it is..


Mon, 04/02/2012 - 18:29 | 2311104 Rover
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Mon, 04/02/2012 - 18:39 | 2311134 kengland
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Olive trees. Fantastic idea. I'm adding that. I also like the vinegar idea

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 19:10 | 2311207 BeetleBailey
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Good for you. Hopefully, you've installed the automatic machine gun turrets and electric barbed wire fencing around your compound to keep the soon-to-come riff-raff out.

As for me, it's off to an undisclosed 3rd world island, far from the nuclear and beaten path soon, where I can raise my own herds, grow my own produce, and buy from organic farmers and forget this crap here.


I pity the people here....I really do.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 20:41 | 2311395 Moe Howard
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Why did you stick that candle in that roosters back you bastard?

Tue, 04/03/2012 - 00:17 | 2311988 i-dog
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"Next up is olive trees for oil to go with the vinegar"

FYI ... "Under good conditions and modern irrigation systems, olive trees take at least 10 years before they are mature enough to yield a satisfactory harvest. The peak production years for an olive tree are between 30 and 70 years old."

"... a function of cultivar. 'Arbequina' and 'Koroneiki' fruit at an early age (about 3 years). Other cultivars do not make fruit until they are five to twelve years old. Most olive cultivars will not produce fruit without a pollinator tree of a different cultivar. There are also non-fruiting cultivars of olive. Olives grown from seed may never produce fruit, and if they do, will not likely have the same characteristics as the parent tree."

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 18:26 | 2329544 JW n FL
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Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:38 | 2310926 tony bonn
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the company will sell its assets in bankruptcy - watch who buys its recipe for pink slime....someone else will sell it...

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 18:02 | 2311025 FeralSerf
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New name will be reddish yummy stuff, or RYS.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 18:42 | 2311140 SeattleBruce
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Now Taco Bell can make their beef filler directly!  ;)

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:38 | 2310927 spanish inquisition
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Really, no problem with it? So why did you have to bring a big bag of cash to someone in the government to be able to call it hamburger?

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:39 | 2310928 Sudden Debt
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I've got a great idea for a new product!





Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:47 | 2310962 john39
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soylent green?  just wait until the inflation really kicks in.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 19:34 | 2311261 goat
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Soylent Green is people.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 21:33 | 2311543 TheFourthStooge-ing
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I've got a great idea for a new product!





It's already been done:


Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:39 | 2310929 AN0NYM0US
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notwithstanding Burkle is an effing genius

from another decade

'91 Burkle acquires Alpha Beta markets for $245m
'94 Burkle acquires Smitty's (Arizona) for $141m
'94 Burkle acquire's Ralphs in SO Cal for $425m + 1b in debt
'95 Burkle acquires Dominick's in Chicago for $750m
'96 Burkle's Smitty's merges with Utah's Smith's $240m
'97 Burkle gains control of Fred Meyer in a transaction valued at $700m + $1.3m debt
'97 Burkle/Fred Meyer acquires Ralph's/Food 4 Less etc and Spearately QFC for $2b in stock +2.9b in debt
'98 Burkle sells Dominick's for $1.85b
'98 Burkle sells grocery holdings to Kroger for $8b + $4.8b in debt

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:39 | 2310930 Sleepless Knight
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They will probablt go "out of business" in the human food industry, wait 1 month and presto! The new dog food company! Wont even change a thing I bet.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 21:43 | 2311572 Whoa Dammit
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One thing will change---they'll pay less money for the same work.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:40 | 2310934 CaptainTripps
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tyler, please ban anyone who actually tries to argue PINK SLIME is great for America and her children



Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:51 | 2310980 blu
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Tyler, please ban people who ask you to ban people.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 18:10 | 2311050 NotApplicable
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As well as anyone even tangentially associated with them.

This outrage will not stand!

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 18:57 | 2311173 CaptainTripps
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there has to be a stop gap point on everything


there is a golden rule you know


wishing and defending the selling of CRAP MEAT is literally immoral, and evil

anyone who defends it is not a patriot, not an american, and not human


there are 100s of processes or products like this out there...that people just Accept ...because they don't really know..or have been exposed too


the same thing is coming to MSG, GMO< etc


i believe monsanto will be the next enron someday 

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 19:15 | 2311225 Dr Benway
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The golden rule states that crap meat defenders are not human?

I thought it was something about doing onto others or something

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 19:31 | 2311254 Saro
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Someone who actually enjoys freedom chooses for himself, and not for others.

Tue, 04/03/2012 - 00:29 | 2312011 Lednbrass
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Yes, there is a golden rule. I am happy to observe it and let you think as you please and say what you like.

You, on the other hand, are basically an authoritarian asshole control freak who wants to ban people who dont think as you do, and I am quite sure you would squeal like the little pig you are if someone behaved towards you in this same way.

Screw you and all the other Thought Police you junior Stalinist asshole.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 18:19 | 2311041 tickhound
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Hey Captain!... There's no rule that says you need to be registered at least 3 weeks before calling for a ban but,. let us pretend its an unwritten rule. 

One hopes that should there EVER BE A CASE FOR PINK SLIME, we would hear about it here, first.

Consumers of PINK SLIME-A were more likely to have completed high school vs the Consumers of PINK SLIME-B... A future statistic to be archived in THE ZEROHEDGE. 

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:41 | 2310935 EvlTheCat
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They should change the color from pink to green, press it into wafers and sell it as a novelty food item.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:51 | 2310982 blu
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They should have just cooked it at the site and sold it as a meat by-product.

Worked for SPAM.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:41 | 2310938 ZackAttack
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I am recalling a story. On a continent (not North America), one dog food company dominated everywhere except in the west. There, people tended to buy scraps from the butcher as they went on sale after three days.

The dog food company hired a PR firm to help out. Not long after, in the western provinces, an inspector decreed that all butchers must mark all meat scraps older than 3 days with purple ink. No vote was needed, just an ordinance. After all, it's for the children, to protect them from unscrupulous butchers who might otherwise sell 3 day old meat.

No one wanted to feed their dogs purple ink. Dog food sales shot up in the west.

Look for something like that here. Who profits most by outlawing pink slime?

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:53 | 2310989 blu
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Well played.

I would answer; whoever buys these processing plants for cents on the dollar.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 19:21 | 2311234 Stax Edwards
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The wifes family told her a processing plant is closing in IA over this.  

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:45 | 2310940 SumGuy
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> AFA has 850 full-time employees and annual revenue of $958 million

So, like, that's more than $1 million of revenue per employee.

Isin't a number like that off the charts?

And they had to declare bankruptcy?

If they really were processing a shit-load of scrap meat, that would account for the skyrocketing cost of catfood over the past few years (more scrap going into the human food chain = less available for cat and dog food).

Hopefully this diversion of scap meat into the human food stream will end and it will once again be diverted into the cat food stream, and cat food will go down in price (yes, I have a lot of cats).


Mon, 04/02/2012 - 18:09 | 2311048 FeralSerf
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Cats can be fed ground up dogs and rodents.  Dogs can be fed processed cats.  It would be perpetual motion if it weren't for the added rodents.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 18:50 | 2311156 smiler03
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Rodents eat anything and breed like rabbits. Ermm oops

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 20:45 | 2311403 Moe Howard
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Old people can be fed ground up all of those.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 18:12 | 2311056 NotApplicable
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Damned corn-based catfood.

Tue, 04/03/2012 - 00:21 | 2311994 Cathartes Aura
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absolutely agree - cats need meat, not "soy protein, corn gluten, oats, rice" ad infinitum. . . (all GMO of course)

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 18:23 | 2311091 nmewn
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"Hopefully this diversion of scap meat into the human food stream will end..."

I'm not a vegan by any stretch, but now we need to work on stopping the practice of feeding "renderings" to other livestock.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 18:56 | 2311170 koperniuk666
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lots of cats = lesbian

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 19:44 | 2311276 Diet Coke and F...
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"So, like, that's more than $1 million of revenue per employee."

My father workd for a company that did exactly that. $400 Million in profit for 400ish employees. That firm left Canada to go back to the states and cut the pay in half. Remember that CAD=USD now.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:42 | 2310941 bobola
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Pink slime, referred to by manufacturers as lean finely textured beef (LFTB), also known as boneless lean beef trimmings (BLBT), is a beef-based food additive that may be added to  ground beef and beef-based processed meats as an inexpensive filler in the United States. Although legal and classified as "safe" by the USDA, pink slime is not legal as a food additive in Canada and the United Kingdom. Source areas may include the most contaminated portions of cattle, such as near the hide which is often exposed to fecal matter.

It consists of low-grade finely ground beef scraps and connective tissue which have been mechanically removed from the fat. The recovered material is processed, heated, and treated with ammonia gas or citric acid to kill E. coli, salmonella, and other bacteria. It is finely ground, compressed into blocks and flash frozen for use in as a filler in beef products.

The additive itself cannot legally be sold directly to consumers and is instead used as a filler that can constitute up to 15% of ground beef without additional labeling, and is also used as a filler in other meat products such as beef-based processed meats.[5] Prior to the invention of the disinfection process, beef scraps could only be sold as pet food or as an ingredient for cooking oil.

The term "pink slime" was coined in 2002 by Food Safety and Inspection Service microbiologist Gerald Zirnstein. It usually refers to low-grade beef trimmings from connective tissue.  Manufacturer Beef Products, Inc. and meat industry organizations have countered the public concern by stating that the additive is in fact beef, and has begun using the slogan "beef is beef."

In the U.S., beef can be labeled "100 percent ground beef" even if it contains up to 15 percent pink slime, and currently in the U.S., only if a USDA Organic label is present can consumers know that the beef contains no pink slime. Consumer advocacy groups have pressed for elimination of pink slime or mandatory disclosure of additives in beef, but a spokesperson from Beef Products Inc. said there was no need for any additional labeling, asking "What should we label it? It's 100 percent beef, what do you want us to label it? I'm not prepared to say its anything other than beef, because its 100 percent beef."

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:44 | 2310954 aerojet
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Lips and assholes are still beef, after all.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:46 | 2310960 hedgeless_horseman
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You beat me to it.  We are probably related.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:53 | 2310991 Not Too Important
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I saw a movie about that. Starred one of Charlie Sheen's girlfriends . . .

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 18:14 | 2311062 FeralSerf
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What about the bullshit while it's still in the bull?

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 20:21 | 2311345 Bunga Bunga
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The production process turns it into "food".

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:48 | 2310958 hedgeless_horseman
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Watch this movie: Food, Inc.  

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