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Greetings, Gooch.
You are most perceptive. I am from a foreign land: one that is bitterly cold and most likely to the north of you.
Yes, I fear that we too are fucked, but only because you are going down first and our futures are inextricably entwined.
We all hoped that you would do the right thing and send Ron to the white house, but you fucked that up too. He really was the free world's only hope.
I gotta go scrape the ice off the old lady's car so she can go get me some beer.
I Love Wisconsin!
We'll all go down... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frAEmhqdLFs
We'll all burn together...
Nice one.
A little bit of light in the dark of winter night will do anybody good.
Excuse me while I continue to wear off the chuckle from the posting about you being in Wisconsin...
OK, now that That has passed... I think you all have bigger problems. You've yet to even fess up to the fact that you're STILL in a massive housing bubble. You folks really know how to do "denial." I feel somewhat entitled to be able to give my assessment on "up there" because that's where my wife is from (where I nabbed her from- though she was born in the Philippines).
Canada is going to take a hit when China's economy throttles back (well, just about everyone is, but...). Chinese have really helped jack up key real estate locations like B.C.. Further, this has been amplified by all those Chinese students, who, as I long ago prognosticated, will be recalled back home when their wealthy parents are no longer wealthy enough. Strip the rental market and the homeowner market shits: many rely on subletting rooms to students (my wife did).
People need to realize that things happen based on the slightest of margins. One or two percent growth has to happen, and when it cannot things start to go unstable and backpedal. That housing growth up there is going to start failing the one to two percentage points. Ron Paul would have ZERO baring on this: not to mention that if we did the right things, as he'd want us (and I DO agree), things would get really ugly, possibly never being able to stabilize (but, w/o him it's 100% certainty that it'll go that way anyway).
Glad you could have a laugh on us. We'll do this again sometime.
I keep hearing about the so called Canadian Housing Bubble. Lets put that one to sleep right now. There is no doubt that Vancouver real estate pricing is insane. Totally insane. But don't be fooled. This market is not representative. Not only is Vancouver one of the greatest cities on earth, but it is populated more and more by wealthy Chinese. Where the fuck they get all that money is beynd me, but one walk through the city, along the water or through the parks, and you will think you are in fucking Shanghai. The so called 'bubble' is only a reflection of the best of the billion wanting to live in the land of the free.
Chnese collapse or not, there is plenty of money there looking for a home here. There are no white eyes jacking up the prices such that there will one day be a huge collapse in real estate prices. As long as the Chines keep coming - and they will - real estate in Vancouver will continue to inflate. The rest of BC is moderately priced, except to the extent of ex-Vancouverites spending their new found Chinese proceeds of sale in the warmer climates of Vancouver island and the sunny interior. Alberta is all about immense oil wealth, and absent a collapse of energy prices, their real estate is not going down. There is just too much money there. Saskatchewan and Manitoba are hardly bubble economies, and Ontario - outside of Toronto - is again quite affordable. Toronto is much like Vancouver, but exponentially dirtier - and therfore, a bit less attractive, but still a magent for foreign money. I can't speak to Quebec, but as far as the east coast (maritimes) go, again, there is no bubble. Ayone could afford housing out there.
Ron Paul is our only hope to save ourselves from self destruction. American hegemony is going to fuck us all, and only he can be relied on to not start something that will be too big for any of us to survive. As he goes, I'm afraid, we go.
Nice to hear you found your wife here. Shame you couldn't have nabbed one of those fine Quebecois ladies (Ooh la la), but that's just one more for us.
Ron Paul is our only hope to save ourselves from self destruction. American hegemony is going to fuck us all, and only he can be relied on to not start something that will be too big for any of us to survive.
There's no doubt that Paul's the only POTUS candidate worth a damn. However....
The empire dies the way a bank does. It's a tiny tiny group of people whose power is wholly dependent on their MONEY.
What sort of thing is really at risk for the US Federal gummit?
There's more cause for hope than you suggest.
They are cutting taxes in China now to allow controlled currency inflation and greater domestic consumption in an attempt to haul them out of a widening recession at home.
Not unlike the US of A circa 2003 to 2008, although highly compressed this time, it will be a lean fuel air mix that will still rely greatly on raw resource materials to fuel conspicuous consumption to appease the locals...raw materials sourced from the great white north...there will be a hit in Canada but it will be more from the short term drop in US consumption as things then re-set and re-position around around supplying China as the next great resource consumer....
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-vKjkDtZ6HVE/TzuW6GHOoEI/AAAAAAAAAmY/6zfy9GD_pKk/s1600/ron-paul-last-statesman.jpg
blah blah blah...
RON FUCKIN' PAUL!
RON FUCKIN' PAUL PUNK FUCKIN' ROCK ANTHEM! - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWC_0jPFQ_Q
END THE FUCKIN' FED
END THE BULLSHIT!
OR AT LEAST ( when Goldman Sachs wins) START CAPPIN' MOTHERFUCKERS!
RON PAUL PUNK ROCK ANTHEM! - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWC_0jPFQ_Q
Hey Janet, HOW'S IT HANGIN?
Tyler, is this a required session. Can I opt out?
Why would you want to?
This place is so much fun!
Fun? Therapeutic maybe.
it is that.
Romney will get the nomination (dah) and Obama will make mincemeat of him in November...the current Republican party and the majority of its voters deserve annihilation.....how someone can vote for Romney, Santorum or Newt over Ron Paul is beyond my comprehension...
Its beyond comprehension, period.
Tell me this (anyone!!): Is there any real appreciation "down there" for how stupid your populace appears to those who are on the outside, looking in?
Do you walk the streets feeling like you are entirely surrounded by morons? How do you cope?
They seem fine, all plump and happy, until they furrow their brow in an effort to think their way out of a paper bag with threetard letters written on it. Then it shows.
USA (a Federal Reserve subsidiary corporation) ! Maximizing human regression since 1913.
this and that... this and that...
repeat after me
BRAINWASH WORKS!
repeat after me
BRAINWASH WORKS!
Virginia sheep suck ass. There were only two candidates on the ballot and they still picked the wrong one.
Virginia sheep suck ass. There were only two candidates on the ballot and they still picked the wrong one.
Did they? Really? Who's counting??
So let's see...
Yeap the average american is still stupid.
I am convinced Americans are happy to trade in their freedom for security from the government; cradle to grave financial security and safe from terrorism security. Our founding fathers are weeping in heaven.
Why is that?
Is there something here more complicated than just plain stupidity?
Someone needs to notify the baby boomers, they'll do any pathetic mindfuck thing you ask, you just have to broadcast it on TV for them.
Pretty much the same for all generations ... I was sitting in Starbucks next to two twentysomethings who spent 30 minutes in heated debate over the intricacies of some computer game ... stupidity is not limited to the boomers
That's not stupidity, though. That's intelligence that's being misallocated because it's never been rewarded.
The economic model reigns.
You're talking about the baby boomer progeny there.
I get your point. But I have one too. That generation of lemmings is making the biggest splash. Unfortunately they ran off the edge of the commode and the splashback is straight shit water.
Weyes1, drop by a public high school at the end of the day, and watch the parade of "leaders of the 21 st century" as they try to find their way across a street. Or, try a Walmart, DMV, or any mall to see a slice of the American public.
The next generation of 'leaders of the 21st century' do not seem that much worse than the leaders of the late 20th or early 21st. I guess those older guys really just set the stage for times to come. Who could forget such classic leadership as GB's 'I'm the decider' or BC's 'I did not have sex with that woman'? Who could ever hope to live up to such lofty expectations as BO when he announced he would 'look forward, not backward'.
I guess they're hard at work to ensure they don't disappoint.
Every generation looks at the younger ones like that. This is not a problem of stupidity it's a problem of programming.
Americans and most of the Western world live in a completely artifical environment. People are creatures of this environment and expect it to continue as it has in the past. In the past the gov/banks/whatever have been able to present the appearance of control over this environment. When this control slips the result will be very truamatic. This is the time, when everyone is trying to learn this new environment, that you have a chance to do some reprogramming.
Those kids should be your target, you're right they will be the future leaders, left at the mercy of an uncontested public education. We need to contest what is fed to them by any education system. Have you ever stopped and watched the meet and greets at an RP event on CSpan? I'd be surprised if the average age was 27. Teach these kids about TRUE money and most of the rest will fall in place. Fiat allowed government to get this large, and removing fiat would shrink it.
By the time this mess is over they are the ones who will most want a revolution, we need to make sure they know what to fight for.
#41
Only when tyranny becomes apparent will they question that trade ... and as long as everyone waits breathlessly for the IPad3 news, Dancing with the Stars, election results from Super Tuesday, the Netflix arrival or SNAP Thursday nothing will convince us that there is any danger.
I am convinced Americans are happy to trade in their freedom for security from the government; cradle to grave financial security and safe from terrorism security. Our founding fathers are weeping in heaven.
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Ah, the sheeple story.
Well, you know, maybe, the sheeple see it as it is. They scratch their head finding ground to confirm that one has to trade freedom for security.
Especially in US citizen societies. A quick look at reality shows how difficult it is to find basic examples to support the founding fathers' wild claim that was probably aimed as a propaganda package bit to sell their humanity changing (for the best!) project.
They could indeed measure how slaves, who are unfree, enjoyed the most secure life it was possible in their own times. They could because they owned slaves for many of them so they could indeed test their dementia assertion.
Gingrich had to cancel an appearance before his big win in SC due to lack of interest.
http://www.mercurynews.com/presidentelect/ci_19782823
Rigged in plain view.
Reality TV really sucks.
The peak of political mechanics is demonstrated in high school class elections.
All the principles get established there. From there on out it's gravy.
Oh wait, who are those pesky unattached delegates?
diebold and watson skynet in the same day.
rise of the machines...
and they had the nerve to call fraud on the election in Russia?
which, of course it was, but still at least Putin had the decency to let everybody watch it live over the internet.
why didn't we have a webcam in every polling station? I noticed the MSM failed to mention that...
and don't bother organizing a protest, H.R 347 is awaiting Obama's signature, which would at any time of the PTB's choosing pretty much makes it a felony to be protesting or occupying any where where there is, or could be... Feds. sure you can still congregate, just 20 blocks away next to the town landfill.
pure banana republic.
Suck ass, war-mongering phoney christian pansy boy.
No doubt it's going to be 4 more years.
Wow.
Let it all out. Don't hold anything back, man.
Do you think Ron Paul has the best chance against BHO?
yes
Coke or Pepsi - either way we're screwed. Lately the dems have spent less than the repubs. Maybe if we get Romney we'll see 2T+ annual defecits. That'll be nice.
I hate having my fate tied to these fat American dumb asses.
Wow ... you must be a pretty slender individual
you spend exactly 20 minutes here "expressing yourself"
unless there is some "meaning" to the people you're responding to that we can't understand, it doesn't look like there's too much going on in there, 'bear'
see ya!
None of this matters. Look what is coming before the election. Syria, Iran, OWS, deb ceiling increase followed by another probably downgrade. $4.00 + gas, no vacations, rising food prices and that doesn't even include Europe. I can hear the election being postponed for some reason and the sheep will roll right over and say ok. All this primary crap really means nothing. The propaganda is 100 feet high.Just my thoughts.
Ppssst......
Politics,smolitics.......
They all work for the same fucking boss(bankers)
Wake the fuck up.!!!
Or, in the alternative,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv6b0CretuE
romney/obama who will win?
http://www.jinrongbaike.com/
http://www.cnhedge.com/
Romney/Paul beats Obama -(Ron or Rand) otherwise Obama wins.
Romney/Paul beats Obama -(Ron or Rand) otherwise Obama wins.
Republicans are thankfully FUCKED. Santorum and Romney will have to shoot their loads just to get the nomination. Obama is a shit president but what the fuck can he even do? I think we have to accept that President really doesn't call the fucking shots.
My delegate count assuming various things, and something for good ol' Alaska:
Romney 429
Santorum 138
Gingrich 115
Paul 95
Total so far 777
The big fuckup in Virginia really helped Romney.
Are you basing delegate counts in the caucus states on the straw vote numbers? In reality there is no direct correlation.
The story so many are completely unaware of....I'm shocked, shocked to find that delegate selection is going on in here!
No. I am reading local newspapers and on the ground political blogs, for the most part.
From what I've read Ron Paul will get a majority of delegates from Iowa and Maine and will get significantly more delegates than the straw vote would suggest in several other states.
For example my Iowa estimate is Paul 15, Romney 5, Santorum 5. Major mainstream outlets have nonsensical numbers, often omitting large chunks of state delegations because they are gutless, stupid, haven't been told what to do by party bosses, or all three.
I overweight Paul in some caucus states, but not all. The trend if there is one is that if Paul gets to about 15% in the popular vote he has a way of leveraging a large chunk of delegates.
You're numbers are probably as good as anybody's at this point, excluding Doug Wead, of course.
It's a total ground game. RP has seen delegate selection as the primary tactic and a powerful strategy for influence at the convention.
The only one close enough to potentially matching RP in this approach with resource and opportunity is Romney yet my impression is that for all his political infrastructure he is not focussing on this part of the game as much as he should.
Perhaps this explains his courteousness to RP more than anything...the ultimate political calculus after all is the number of delegates, maybe something Romney has less of a grasp on than most would suspect....
Romney obviously thought he'd have this whole thing wrapped up by now. Doug Wead said that many of the rules which Ron Paul is using to his benefit (such as proportional assignment of delegates) were introduced specifically to smooth things for Romney.
When you look at the exit polling numbers the thing that stands out in most places is how Ron Paul wins the under 40 vote, while Romney and others totally dominate the 65 and older crowd. It's the geezers that are controlling the election. This is turning into a generational battle. The old folks want their bennies, and the young are saying screw this, we are getting the shaft. This fight will get worse, and the oldies should lose the greed. BTW, I am 47 and have strongly supported Paul since 2007. I never expect to see a dime of the bundle I have sunk into SS and medicare over my career. Those programs are being sucked dry by folks who never put in near the amount they are getting in return. What a racket.
In VA Ron took two thirds of Independents. There are more Independents in the US than either Republicans or Democrats. Romney will be unelectable come November.
In 2008 Obama took over 60% of the youth vote. Romney loses the youth vote to Paul and will be unelectable come November.
Too bad the Republican faithful believed the liberal media when they said that Romney was electable and Paul was not.
If the economy takes another nose dive, Obama will have a tough time keeping his office. The economy is in no shape whatsoever to handle $100 plus oil, and with war on the horizon, folks are going to hunker down. I think it's about oil squeezing consumers. In 2008, $148 oil popped the debt bubble, and now it's happening again at even lower levels. War with Iran, and the resultant economic disaster via high oil prices, will destablize the entire world into possible parellel conflicts. The results of all this are very unpredictable.
Obama is a prisoner to the birther issue regardless of the validity, because as it is allowed to fester without unequivocal negation (which at this point in the popular unconsciousness is probably impossible) it becomes a powerful vector to cash him out politically behind the scenes.
Don't be surprised to see an LBJ moment where, 'for the sake of the nation' to avoid more civil strife and doubt , Obombya will ankle, take the high road to the professional speaking circuit and invigorate the Dem's chances around....wait for it: Hillary.
And the GOP seeing a weak formula B in Romney/Santorum/Gingrich will draft JEB Bush!
And once Al Q*eda in Iran attacks the USA Hillary and JEB will unite as one party for the sake of preserving freedom, liberty and the American Constitution!!
OK, maybe I'm exaggerating a little bit....
I certainly hope so.
Not exaggerating unfortunately. My own nightmare scenario is just that. Jeb Bush/Condi Rice 'Maximum Evil 2012', in for the win with dirty tricks and the Supremes. Then it's Drone City in the US. Just pull the plug and walk away....I'm sure Hillary will be on board.
Legislation and regulations are already in place to put 30,000 spy drones and 7,500 combat drones into American skies this decade. No Bush required.
Obama v. Romney isn't likely to be a replay of Carter v. Reagan which is the closest comparison which could be made to the scenario you present.
Reagan ran as a small government outsider who most in the mainstream considered to be unelectable. It was that very outsider status and prospect of Reagan being something different from the status quo that won him the election. Ron Paul is far more like Reagan in that regard than the lukewarm, flip-flopping Romney. Of course Ron Paul is a far better man than Ronald Reagan but that's beside the point.
As the incumbent Obama can buy votes and fudge numbers in order to improve his polls. Romney has little to no wow factor to overcome the power of Obama's incumbency.
Romney is Dukakis-like. Mere prey. Although a few billion dollars might spruce the dude up for the masses.
That sounds about right. When does Romney get to go for a ride in a tank while wearing a funny hat?
Romney/Kerry 2012
If paul could win the nomination he would win the centre ground from obama in a presidential election, however the GOP cannot control RP so they will do anything to stop him, MSM will not report him as he opposes the MSM control of the media, Wall st won't finance him, etc etc.
The media you have is not liberal in any way i can think of, over here liberal is still a word meaning someone is tolerant and fair, it appears to mean something else in (american) english.
The biggest problem for Romney is that he is rich, and doesn't seem to mind parking loads of cash offshore. He is going to be hammered on that issue. He doesn't relate well to the average Joe out there. Nonetheless, Obama better hope he can somehow keep the economy limping along till the election. Actually I think a better comparison is Bush / Clinton 92. We had a war with Iraq, a recession, and high oil prices. Even though we won the war, Bush took the blame for the recession and Clinton won. Ironically, Romney and Clinton are about the same politically, although Clinton has a lot more charisma than Romney. Another problem for Romney is that many Paul supporters will not vote for him, or any other GOP fake conservative clown in the general.
Also, for the record Paul now has over 885,000 votes with less than half the states in (and only a few big ones). In the 2008 campaign he totaled 1,160,403. In 2008 he brought just 29 delegates to the convention. He's more than tripled that...so far.
So do we trot him out again in 2016 as an octogenarian? I'm up for it if he is.
If he can hang in for another 4 or more years to run again, he'll start getting some of the older vote. (older by 4 years that is)
Mr. Obama thank Americans for picking a useless GOP candidate, he also wish to thank the friendly media for bashing his most formidable nightmare, Dr. Ron Paul.
BO is the biggest winner!
Mr. Obama thank Americans for picking a useless GOP candidate, he also wish to thank the friendly media for bashing his most formidable nightmare, Dr. Ron Paul.
BO is the biggest winner!
USA = One party system, de facto belongs to Oligarchy. Chairman HU has a rival in USA; who is who?
If this would have been the first response to this thread we could have stopped the discussion right there!
I don't know why people still feel like there is a choice.....well there is one..but not through elections.
Whens he about?
selected not elected..Bomb them McCain and now this elite sleaze romney" the annoited" to run. such an obvious side show act this election stuff. decided months ago in Davos and other international elite meetings.
"THEY LIVE" see it and understand.
Going by the math, Sanatarium would have to win ALL the rest of the delegates to squeeze Romney by 10. So, Romney is the winner after calculating his Guarenteed to win states providing he dose not drop out or croak. Their just re-running the old 08 Obama strategy. Looks the same to me.
MSM will keep the horse race going though, they need to keep the story alive so they can keep flapping their cock traps all day making viewers think that another candidate still has a shot at winning. Not.
And God forbid the Bin Laden "mystery solved" comes out, so their going to have lot's of stupid pundits and sock puppets giving their "opinion" till the weekend.
OT. Last update:
He was flown into Dover from Pakistan to be taken to Maryland for an examination then flown back to Pakistan for a Muslim burial at sea all within 2 days of the burial video aired here stateside.
The media covered the wrong Muslim burial at sea?
The Marines dumped the wrong body? (who was that then?)
Or how 'bout the truth for a change? Osama Bin Laden has been dead for along time. There, fixed. Seriously, someone has some explaining to do regaurdless unless there going to play the "flying carpet card".
Who cares, it's all psyops since 9/11 anyway. Just get the truth and your fine.
In 1896 0.06% of GDP went toward campaign spending.
In 1896 Republicans outspent Democrats roughly 5 to 1.
Most of the republcan funding came from corporations to oppose the silver-coining advocates they saw as a threat to their financial interests.
Whoda thunk it?
Four out of four voters in this house in Newt's former Congressional district voted for Ron Paul.
Todays lesson for children.
In metzitzah b'peh, the mohel places his mouth on the freshly circumcised penis to draw blood away from the cut. If the mohel is infected with oral herpes (as most adults are), metzitzah b'peh can expose the infant to the herpes virus. While severe illness associated with this practice may be rare , there is a definite risk of infection.
The cause of death was listed as “disseminated herpes simplex virus Type 1, complicating ritual circumcision with oral suction.”
http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dailypolitics/2012/03/brooklyn-district...
Indeed, although it's not like genital mutilation is a particularly good idea when performed by a physician in a sterile environment, either.