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Popularity Of Greek Neo-Nazi Party Continues Surging
There is a reason why we called the graph of youth unemployment in Europe 'the scariest chart' as quite simply, it is the leading indicator for what most call 'social unrest' - but some would call 'uprising'. In somewhat stunning news today, not only do a majority (54%) of Greeks no longer trust any political party, but the popularity of the ultra-nationalist Golden Dawn has risen dramatically since May. According to Ekathimerini, the popularity of Golden Dawn's leader Nikos Mihalolioakos has risen ten points since May to an incredible 22%. More than 1 in 5 Greeks now support the neo-nazi party as the general disillusionment with mainstream political parties - who are seen as lying to get votes - grows stronger. 85% believe that the new measures planned by the government to take affect them personally or another member of their family and 68% are against the terms of the EU's bailout.
Via Skai.gr:
The stunning performance (absolute and relative) of the Golden Dawn party relative to the rest of Greece's political parties is truly concerning...no on par with PASOK!!
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Bunga Bunga!!
I believe, sir, that it is "Unga Bunga."
"Bunga Bunga" is Italian.
"Unga Bunga" is universal.
Perhaps clarification of original intent is required?
Look. One thing Keynes got right was that in economics beggaring your neighbour is counter-productive. It is stupid to make your current customer your future enemy, and conversely smart to make your current enemy your future customer - that sort of thing. That's a lesson Europeans learn at the mother's teat - the push/pull interconnectedness of the global economy is ignored at our peril.
Therefore, whatever happens to Greece, including leaving the Eurozone (Though probably not the EU), they will not be allowed to sink below a certain threshold of living standard, and all this crap about "fascists" returning to Europe (Via Greece of all places) is a bit of tragi-comedy to lighten the mood of the sinking Euro, and maybe a bit of blackmail leverage to eke out a few euros more from the eurozone (German) purse before they go back to the Drachma.
The sheer gypsy-like audacity of the Greeks never cease to amaze me. And just like the gypsies, their whole entitlement culture is based on leeching as much as they can out of the state based solely on the dubious nature of their race. It is easy to see why some of them would sympathise with national socialism, but I doubt the fascists will ever take hold in Greece. It's just too much hard work to be a Nazi, and let's face it, Greeks are lazy bastards.
I think it's dreadfully unfair that my taxes will eventually wind its way to Greece, but I do think there's wisdom in this part of Keynes not to beggar your neighbour.
Hey stupid, your taxes wind it's way to Greece, then through the back door to the banksters.
That Swastika-thingy looks kind of wierd.
It could be that labyrinth-thingy where the ancient Athenians sent their tribute and uh human sacrifices...
The "swastika thingie" goes back to pre-history (Indus Valley) as a symbol of temples and other concepts - mostly good stuff. I'd suggest that most Eastern religious symbols look kinda wierd to we in the West.
In Greece you'll find them on the larger Eastern Orthodox Churches, so the symbol is not at all a strange sight to greeks.
Greece, the lamprey eel of the EU.
They should vote in the Nazi party then they can see how, "it can't get any worse".
Just a new group of politicians who will seperate themselves even further from the people they are supposed to represent and will be living the "good/Greek life" on the public drachma (when it comes back).
Ironic because they will be the ones declaring "war" on Germany and their neighbors.
WHEEEEEEE
I would only join if i got a cool uniform designed by Hugo Boss
Done! However it only comes in in a kind of yellow faux-suede that wrinkles easily. You still in?
How does this equate to 22% when the total of each list is 248% or 231%. I realize Greeks do things a bit differently, but, well....
I would guess that the government run schools in Greece are about as good as those run by the US government.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lp_6MN_KMCc
Nazis bad, but the Commies were just as bad, and Zionism is in 3rd and gaining.
Ever ask yourself why, since the Russkis and Krauts both invaded Poland {and at least Western Poland had been Prussian-German before WW1} - Britain and France and 'Judea' didn't declare war on them
If you go to wikipedia, the entry on 'Jewish Bolshevism' in essence says that it is an 'anti-semitic canard'. That is the best example I'm aware of as to Wiki-Washing by Zionists. It's simply inarguable.
I promise you, and apologies for some of the superfluous imagery and Joo-bashing - but this will blow your mind - and it is, in essence, all TRUE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lp_6MN_KMCc
This one deserves to be passed along. The same basic trick worked in Iraq, and is working now in Syria and especially Iran. Katyn Forest is actually well-documented, as is the fact that the leading Bolsheviks were mostly {over 80%} Jewish in a country where they were under 2% of the population.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lp_6MN_KMCc
Re « Wiki-Washing by Zionists »
That is the whole purpose of the CIA - Mossad Wikimedia - Wikipedia
Jewish Jimmy Wales, criminal mafia porn meister in the 1990s, selected by CIA to pose as 'Wikipedia founder' because of his willingness to harm children and help kill Muslims and other innocent people
Jimmy Wales, so high up with Mossad he goes to inimate birthday parties of the President of Israel
Wikipedia providing full anonymity for all Mossad agents, CIA and NSA agents ...
90% of Wiki allowed to be 'neutral' so the world will get sucked into the lies planted in the other 10% ...
Wholey fuck! Watcha drinkin' this morning Bank Guy? Suggest you cut the dosage just a little.
Dear Nobody,
You have to get with the program. If it's anything to do with the US then there's a conspiracy. I am a CIA paid troll. QED.
Re Greek Neo-Nazis
Hmmm..... interesting juxtaposition to the neo-Bolshevik takeover of the USSA...
Check this out: https://store.barackobama.com/obama-2012-store-collections/artists-for-obama/our-stripes-flag-print.html
Posted on Drudge.
This gives me the creeps:
Hitler.
Hitler Hitler.
It feels strange:
Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler.
No I just cannot get used to it. Sorry. That name will never be just a name. What it is now, I cannot say.
Hitler is the name of a clothing store in India ... with a swastika on the front sign:
http://rt.com/art-and-culture/news/hitler-outlet-ahmedabad-jews-807/
And Mein Kampf has been a huge-selling book in Turkey recently ...
http://www.filedropper.com/adolfhitler-meinkampfenglish
I haven't been able to get this in decades over here. Thought we could do with a little sharing of information. I found it on Bibliotik. Direct link http://bibliotik.org/torrents/88 That is if you are a member.
Pass auf! The Nazis wet your bed!
Seriously, why does anyone take arguments like this seriously? Do you really think that Greek nationalism/fascism would be worse than what we got now?
You should ask the Germans about that.
Try Stalin.....US media used to fawn over him....FDR was a fan
Germany and Denmark hold the research and the technology to construct these wind and solar generators, and we fund them to install them here and in effect they take all this wealth abroad
http://vimeo.com/48429817 interview w/ Syriza leader Alex Tsipras. perplexed by his comments about the drachma as it seems that what he suggests will inevitably lead to the drachma http://www.athensnews.gr/issue/13512/58165"and in effect they take all this wealth abroad"
A correction if I may... they take USD abroad... or as Bernank puts it, "keystrokes."
Although real wealth may be being transferred, it's not if all they're getting is USDs. It is my hope, given the uselessness of the wind generators, that they get value for value - ie they get worthless paper, we get worthless windmills. In such a case, we would get the greater value due to the salvage value of the windmill's metals and materials.
Indeed Darth Mul.
https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/csi-pub...
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/americas/united-states/1...
I think we are coming to another historic moment like this one
Enforced austerity by an EU banking cabal is pretty much like the Treaty of Versailles. At some point greece is going to say
thanks but no thanks.
It's been a couple generations since we've had a world war. Time for the new generations to learn a thing two about how crazy things can get.
Dear Greece:
Iceland is the model. Follow it.
When is IPO?
So watch out, baby, 'cause Fascism's commin' back!
/Kevin Bacon
I fully expect to see more of this type of thing amoung native Europeans. Spending much time in Scandinavia, Britain and Russia over the last 25 years, I am not unfamiliar with the immigrant situtation in these nations.
The rise of NAZI parties is a reaction to open borders and the large number of immigrants from the third world flooding into western Europe to get all the social benefits, and many also do come to take lwoer paying jobs. Most do not integrate into society and the youth are mostly angry at their adoptive nations and the natives who live there.
Britain is a worst case scenario as they are completely open borders, take all comers and provide all benfits needed to live happily and never ever work a day in one's life. Scandinavia, does not like to admit they have a problem. But their immigrants, many Muslim, are segregated and not integrating, are very hostile to the native peoples and many are looking forward to greater Muslim immigration as a path to social power.
The Russians, also get more immigration than most westerners imagine. From all parts of the third world they come into Russia and make for the cities where they somehow make a living. Many retain connections in the home country and import goods, whores and drugs to sell on the Russian black market. Russians are quite hostile to them, but since where they come from is already so bad, even living as outcasts in Russia is better. Plus being often in criminal activity, they can make a bunch of money.
The recent mass killing in Norway is the work of a madman, but a madman acting out on what a growing number of natives feel. They feel they are being invaded and instead of fighting invasion, the liberal in their countries work hard to increase the number of immigrants and the free benefits they are given. So tension runs high between natives of the two camps.
As economies sink in Western Europe, especially Britain, I expect the NAZI movements to gain in stregth.
Native Europeans? It's been a while Native Europeans are plagued by invaders, coming from Asia and called Indo Europeans...
But one could doubt those invaders introduce themselves for what they are. And just as they do in North America, they prefer to introduce themselves as natives to the place their ancestors invaded.
The original Indo-Europeans (actually, the Proto-Indo-Europeans) did not originate in the cesspool of Asia, you dipshit --- they originated and spread from what is now Ukraine.
Or did they, in your alternate universe, employ the magical lightning-powered time-traveling rickshaw of Benjamin Franklin inventionism of fabled past to make a stopover in China to shit on the side of the road? I will be most unhappy to learn that my ancestors stooped to such a low level.
The original Indo-Europeans (actually, the Proto-Indo-Europeans) did not originate in the cesspool of Asia, you dipshit --- they originated and spread from what is now Ukraine.
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What a good laughter. 'American' rewriting Man's origin.
We've got a new cradle for humanity and that is Ukraine.
Woooo, fantastic job.
The settlement of Ukraine during Neolithic times were performed by people coming from Asia.
As they came out of Ukraine, their ancestors were from Asia.
No, actually the Homo sapiens ancestors of the Proto-Indo-Europeans spread out of northeastern Africa.
Or in the alternate universe of time-traveling magical flying rickshawism of Benjamin Franklin inventionism of fabled past which you inhabit, did actually mankind originate in Asia and not Africa (before they invaded Easter Island via the not-yet-founded USA in the 15th century AD)?
I think people who have lived in Europe for a few thousand years qualify in my book as natives. Remember also, Native Americans were from Asia, and there is doubt that they were the first settlers of the America's quite likely a people arrived from Europe earlier and their presence is in the fossil tool record.
But as to Europe. Of course peoples have been on the move since before the last Ice Age. Modern Europe has a population that I believe qualifies as native. They are slip into groups, such as nordic, Germanic, celtic etc. etc.
It is believed that peoples in Northern Spain may trace their genes back to a true native population. But then our race also drove Neandethal out of existence. So many you want to go all the way back to the peoples in Europe even before Neandethal? They did exist and their traces are in the fossil record.
I am Sandinavian and we have been there for many thousands of years, so I consider myself as much a native as a native American would consider themselves native to America.
Good points all!
Indeed, there is a great deal of hypocrisy in the discussin of who exactly is 'native' to a particular area. Some of the "Native Americans", such as the Navajo, did not move into the areas now inhabited by them until around the time of Columbus or even well later, and the (largely Dutch) Huguenot settlers of the Cape of Good Hope area found a mostly empty land when they settled the area in the 17th century. The Greenland Norse (now extinct) preceded the current Inuit culture of Greenland by several centuries, so if they were still alive today, it would be THEY who would be logically considered the "natives", with the Eskimos being the invaders!
Absolutely. Just a small clarification for the young public school inmates: The word "American" was coined to describe European peoples who lived in America. The indigenous peoples were called Indians. It is only recently, since the Marxist revolution, that anyone living in America is popularly called an American, and that the Indians are called Native Americans. Same situation in GB, where any terd world visitor who happens to be residing there is now called a "Brit." I saw some murdering Muslims referred to the other day as Swiss. It's crazy I tell ya.
Great post! Dr. Luca Luigi Cavalli-Sforza and many other imminent scholars believe that 90-95% of European genes have been there since the Neolithic. That means that the Indo-Europeans (or Kurgans, if you will) were a relatively small group who took over the natives and gave them their Indo-European languages. A parallel may be the Norman invasion of England.
The Funnel Beaker culture was one of the more advanced cultures in Europe and some believe the source of Caucasian lactase enzyme. The Funnel Beaker folks are considered old European culture by many scholars and the subsequent Battle Axe Culture is considered Germanic(Indo-European) by a majority of scholars. Interestingly, Germanic has the highest number of non-Indo-European loanwords of any of the Indo-European languages, which makes sense, if they met a well established culture. I've often wondered if some of the other unique qualities of the Germanic family(irregular verbs, loss of tenses, etc.) may have come from the Funnel Beaker folks.
No matter where the Indo-Europeans were residing before they migrated west into Europe, they, like all other lily white Caucasians, originally came out of an ice age refuge. Europe was likely entirely uninhabited except for refugia survivors. The ancestors of the Finns may have given them a run for the money on who could get to Scandinavia first, as the ice sheets melted. Jack, I will never question your claim of "native". Indeed, you should be able to claim at least 10,000 years, not even considering your considerable Neanderthal ancestry! ;)
No, actually the Homo sapiens ancestors of the Proto-Indo-Europeans spread out of northeastern Africa.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sahara_pump_theory
The Sahara pump theory is a hypothesis that explains how flora and fauna migrated between Eurasia and Africa via a Levantine land bridge. The theory observes that extended periods of abundant rainfall lasting many thousands of years (pluvial periods) in Africa are associated with a "wet Sahara" phase, during which larger lakes and more rivers exist.[1] This causes changes in the flora and fauna found in the area. ...
During periods of a wet or "Green Sahara", the Sahara and Arabia become a savanna grassland and African flora and fauna become common. Following inter-pluvial arid periods, the Sahara area then reverts to desert conditions, usually as a result of the retreat of the West African Monsoon southwards. Evaporation exceeds precipitation, the level of water in lakes like Lake Chad falls, and rivers become dry wadis. Flora and fauna previously widespread as a result retreat northwards to the Atlas Mountains, southwards into West Africa, or eastwards into the Nile Valley and thence either south-east to the Ethiopian Highlands and Kenya or north-east across the Sinai into Asia. This separates populations of some of the species in areas with different climates, forcing them to adapt, possibly giving rise to allopatric speciation.
Jeeze, humans settled the region on the Black Sea in what is now Varna Bulgaria, between Greece and what is now Ukraine and built cities there, manufactured fine gold jewlery which is a hallmark of civilization that meant probably written language and an agricultural based economy, 12,000 years ago at least. They were building cities more than 6,000 years before the pyramids were built.
And consider this...
Italian researchers believe they have discovered the oldest dental filling -- a beeswax cap applied to a left canine tooth about 6,500 years ago.
The filling was discovered by chance as Claudio Tuniz, Federico Bernardini and colleagues at the Abdus Salam International Center for Theoretical Physics in Trieste used a fossilized jaw bone to test new X-ray imaging equipment.
Found early last century embedded on the wall of a karstic cave near the village of Lonche, in what is now Slovenia, the bone most likely belonged a 24–30-year-old individual.
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To be sophisticated enough to practice what can only be called dentistry so many thousands of years ago hints that man and human settlement and civilization are older than anybody previously dared guess.
Human remains found in Romania date back more than 35,000 years, but there is no way to say how sophisticated or advanced they were as living people.
Splendid post. Appreciate the information very much. I read an article in an archaeology magazine last year in which a city in asia minor pushed the oldest known city back in time another 10 thousand years! I read an article just a month ago about some carvings and sculptures discovered in Bavaria, dating to some 35,000 bc, that were so exquisite that the quality would not be exceeded until historic times. A couple of scientists actually have theories that civilization originally spread out of central Europe. I am about as far from a scholar as you can get, but I have a theory.
The Berbers(Hamitic languages) migrated from Europe to the Middle East where they gave their language and civilization to the Semitic(Semitic languages, offspring of Hamitic) peoples. They traveled to Egypt and, along with some natives, founded the Egyptian civilization. Eventually, nothing would be left of these blue-eyed blond nomads except for a tiny remnant along the western Mediterranean and on some islands. Cavalli-Sforza has proven that these ancient Caucasians did not come from the Iberian peninsula. They migrated west across North Africa.
Bavaria, the original cradle of civilization.
I agree that human history is likely much richer and older than historical records would indicate, but you seem to be trying to contradict my post.
There is nothing about what you state that contradicts the Saharah pump theory as the last migration is theorized to have started about 180k years ago.
No, actually the Homo sapiens ancestors of the Proto-Indo-Europeans spread out of northeastern Africa.
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And? That is the case for everyone else.
Ukraine was populated by people coming from Asia.
Indo-Europeans come from Asia.
Why do you insist that the proto-Indo-Europeans came from Asia, when there is utterly no archeological, linguistic, or genetic evidence to support that assumption?
Is it because you feel that Asians (such as yourself, incidentally) are somehow superior to non-Asians?
Your whirligig dance of blind bigotry and insanitation is speeding up.
Ummm.... Mongols?
Coming from a Brit, I think you're spot on Jack Burton.
I have witnessed first hand how many of our towns and cities have been transformed by immigration. Racial and religious tension is simmering under the surface and native Britons are sick to the back teeth with it. Simply put, they want their country back. In private, many of my acquainances from all walks of life have expressed sympathy with the far right. To the extent that many of them even express admiration for Hitler.
These feelings haven't found any political articulaton yet. Partly because these things take time, partly because our economy hasn't collapsed like Greece's (but as ZH readers are acutely aware, our day of reckoning is coming) also because Britons are perhaps more reserved than other European nations so we won't act on these feelings until the last minute. Sometimes that's a good thing. At other times, such as now, it's bad. The anger with immigration will build and build until eventually it will explode.
When you consider our economic situation, our population density and the fact that (aside from the elderly who lived through WWII) Britons really aren't accustomed to tough times, then things have the potential to get very ugly here and it woultn't surprise me at all to see someone like Hitler take power on the back of it.
"In private, many of my acquainances from all walks of life have expressed sympathy with the far right. To the extent that many of them even express admiration for Hitler. "
As a Brit myself, I have NEVER heard of anybody, ever, express sympathy or admiration for the far right and, are you serious, Hitler?
I am fucking grateful that scum like you are a very small minority in our country.
During the 2010 General Election, the BNP received 1.9% of the vote and failed to win any seats.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_National_Party
I read nothing whatsoever in Harry555's post to jusify your castigation of him as "scum" --- he merely gave his observations on the political sympathies of some of those whom he knows, without himself expressing any such sympathies.
And for an obvious statist such as yourself, I would like to ask, in what manner could one possibly express an anti-immigrant political view without automatically being condemned by statists (such as yourself) as being "Neo-Nazi", "xenophobic" or "racist". Really, give me an example. Is there ANY possible legitimate political stand, in your eyes, that would seek to limit, or (gasp!) even stop, immigration by wholely alien immigrants, particularly those who make no bones about not wanting to assimilate into the nation in question?
I am as individualistic and libertarian as they come, but honestly, what is wrong with a people, an ethnic group, call it what you want, maintaining its identity and cultural uniqueness? Why is it a given that immigrants, even illegal aliens, have a fundamental right to their ethnic heritage, but their hosts have no such right?
Thank you Akak.
The prospect of a bloody conflict in my country with whites versus the rest sends shivers down my spine. But it is becoming inevitable as people like Smiler fail to realise the severity of the situation. Wish us luck!
It was not part of their blood, It came to them very late, With long arrears to make, When the English began to hate.
They were not easily moved, They were icy-willing to wait, Till every count should be proved, Ere the English began to hate.
Their voices were low, Their eyes were level and straight, There was neither sign nor show, When the English began to hate.
It was not preached to the crowd, It was not taught by the state, No man spoke aloud, When the English began to hate.
It was not suddenly bred, It will not swifty abate, Through the chill years ahead, When time shall count from the date, That the English began to hate.
Plagiarism.
You didn't give the credit to Rudyard Kipling. What a surprise. /sShock Horror! Those brown skinned Indians have made a museum for Rudyard Kipling!
In November 2007 it was announced that Kipling's birth home in the campus of the J J School of Art in Mumbai would be turned into a museum celebrating the author and his works.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudyard_Kipling
I have nothing against Indians, and yes the poem was from Rudyard Kipling!
Why is it a given that immigrants, even illegal aliens, have a fundamental right to their ethnic heritage, but their hosts have no such right?
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A question to be sent to 'Americans'...
Or to the Tibetans.
Or to the Tibetans.
"Very small minority" Are you sure Smiler?
As I pointed out, people in the UK won't vote purely on the issue of immigration until it's very late in the day.
Moreover, given the draconian laws in our country that make even mentioning immigration a crime, if you're a Guardian reading Labour voter then no one is going to freely admit to feeling this way to you, for fear of prosecution. You may well end up getting a false impression of public opinion.
As for the BNP, they are/were useless and in my opinion not even far right. Just wait until someone like Golden Dawn appears on the horizon.
P.S There's no need to go around calling people scum simply because they have a different opinion to you. Just remember that when law and order in this country breaks down and the colour of our skin is our uniform, people like you may need people like me.
Yes I'm sure.
OK, you're the expert on future voting patterns.
Mentioning immigration is NOT A CRIME in the UK. If that were true, every single BNP voter would have been found guilty and have been charged with it. A wild fantasy indeed of yours.
Your prejudice is very evident here. I despise the Guradian. I despise the Labour Party. So sorry that I don't fit your stereotype.
You think the BNP are useless? Can you explain why you think that? The BNP are the ONLY official anti-immigration party in the UK. Do you really imagine that the British are going to start voting for a political party like Golden Dawn? If the Brits consider that the BNP is an extreme right party then GD wouldn't be anywhere in political rankings. Unless you rank them.
Scum? Yes YOU ARE SCUM. I have no reservations in stating that. I strongly suspect that you and your "aquaintances" a small clique, probably considered "weird" by those who by no fault of their own have to interact with you.
Me rely on you? What a joke! You really think that in the event of law & order breakdown that every battle will be on the coulour of our skins?
Six zerohedge voters back your opinion and not mine. Not at all a surpise. Just disagree with gold not being @ $2000 next week and you get a guaranteed 100% downvote from this lot. If they don't like the truth, they downvote you. Tell you what, why don't you emigrate across the pond where there is no racial intolerance?
"Britons really aren't accustomed to tough times". What on earth is that supposed to mean? Who are you suggesting are "accustomed to hard times"? A substantial number of Americans are. More so than the British. Are you talking about North Africans? Asians? Come on.. spit it out, who are you referring to?
Actually don't bother answering. I have people of all races to look after in my working life. Wouldn't it be hilarious for the likes of you if you end up in hospital relying on your life from people without the same colour skin as you. Will you refuse their help? Will you? Of course not, if you need medical help, you'll accept it from anybody.
Thank you for reading this. Hypocritical scumbag.
I'll respond for the sake of completeness Smiler.
1. "Mentioning immigration is NOT A CRIME in the UK. If that were true, every single BNP voter would have been found guilty and have been charged with it. A wild fantasy indeed of yours".
Technically correct, but in practice anyone who publicly mentions concerns over immigration or even (dare I mention the words) certain races and religions will be publicly vilified, condemned and find seeking employment thereafter very difficult. That's not because their views aren't widely held, but because the liberal left that have controlled our country more or less uninterruptedly since WWII have ensured that they set the agenda and deem what is acceptable in political debate.
2. "Your prejudice is very evident here. I despise the Guardian. I despise the Labour Party. So sorry that I don't fit your stereotype."
I never actually said, nor meant to imply, that you were a Guardian reading Labour voter. I'm glad to hear that you aren't.
3. You think the BNP are useless? Can you explain why you think that?
Sure. They're useless because, as you pointed out, they won a tiny percentage of the vote despite strength of public feeling on the issue of immigration. This is partly due to incompetence, and partly due to criminality in their ranks.
I'm actually glad the BNP is imploding. It opens up the way for a legitimate party to take the anti-immigration (anti-national suicide) stance.
4. Scum? Yes YOU ARE SCUM. I have no reservations in stating that. I strongly suspect that you and your "aquaintances" a small clique, probably considered "weird" by those who by no fault of their own have to interact with you.
Call me scum if you want, it's your prerogative. It sounds to me that you would be surprised by how many people I'm talking about. I'm certain that there are people in your immediate circle that hold anti-immigration views, whether they voice them in your presence or not. In fact, I'd say more than 50% of Britain is strongly anti-immigration. For good reason too. They can see the (irrepairable) damage it's causing and fear for their children's future. If you yourself fail to see what's on the horizon, don't blame others that can.
5. Me rely on you? What a joke! You really think that in the event of law & order breakdown that every battle will be on the coulour of our skins?
Not every battle, but sadly most. It's human nature Smiler, whether you care to admit it or not. Just look at the racial demographics of the London rioters compared to those that volunteered to clean up afterwards. It doesn't look good, does it.
6. Six zerohedge voters back your opinion and not mine. Not at all a surpise. Just disagree with gold not being @ $2000 next week and you get a guaranteed 100% downvote from this lot. If they don't like the truth, they downvote you. Tell you what, why don't you emigrate across the pond where there is no racial intolerance?
Your ad hominem attacks (and those against the ZH community as a whole) don't surprise me. So often one runs into knee jerk denialist responses to actual facts when someones cocoon of belief is in danger of being punctured.
7. "Britons really aren't accustomed to tough times". What on earth is that supposed to mean?
You know exactly what I mean. We have one of the highest GDP's (for what it's worth) in the world. No one in Britain is starving, despite the recession. We have fought hard in 2 World Wars but didn't suffer as badly as many did in those awful conflicts, and we haven't had serious internal conflict in over three hundred years. Thanks to Labour's (and Conservative's) brainless immigration policy, plus a debt bubble larger than the one that caused the great depression, that last point is about to change.
8. Actually don't bother answering. I have people of all races to look after in my working life. Wouldn't it be hilarious for the likes of you if you end up in hospital relying on your life from people without the same colour skin as you. Will you refuse their help? Will you? Of course not, if you need medical help, you'll accept it from anybody.
I don't discriminate on the basis on skin colour Smiler. But that doesn't mean I have to think we're all the same and that all the races and cultures in the world are equal and compatible with each other. History (and common sense) tells us that they aren't. I'm sorry if you have trouble coming to terms with this, but it's reality nevertheless.
I'll respond for the sake of completeness Smiler.
1. "Mentioning immigration is NOT A CRIME in the UK. If that were true, every single BNP voter would have been found guilty and have been charged with it. A wild fantasy indeed of yours".
Technically correct, but in practice anyone who publicly mentions concerns over immigration or even (dare I mention the words) certain races and religions will be publicly vilified, condemned and find seeking employment thereafter very difficult. That's not because their views aren't widely held, but because the liberal left that have controlled our country more or less uninterruptedly since WWII have ensured that they set the agenda and deem what is acceptable in political debate.
2. "Your prejudice is very evident here. I despise the Guardian. I despise the Labour Party. So sorry that I don't fit your stereotype."
I never actually said, nor meant to imply, that you were a Guardian reading Labour voter. I'm glad to hear that you aren't.
3. You think the BNP are useless? Can you explain why you think that?
Sure. They're useless because, as you pointed out, they won a tiny percentage of the vote despite strength of public feeling on the issue of immigration. This is partly due to incompetence, and partly due to criminality in their ranks.
I'm actually glad the BNP is imploding. It opens up the way for a legitimate party to take the anti-immigration (anti-national suicide) stance.
4. Scum? Yes YOU ARE SCUM. I have no reservations in stating that. I strongly suspect that you and your "aquaintances" a small clique, probably considered "weird" by those who by no fault of their own have to interact with you.
Call me scum if you want, it's your prerogative. It sounds to me that you are just lashing out over hurt feelings. I'm certain that there are people in your immediate circle that hold anti-immigration views, whether they voice them in your presence or not. In fact, I'd say more than 50% of Britain is strongly anti-immigration. For good reason too. They can see the (irrepairable) damage it's causing and fear for their children's future. If you yourself fail to see what's on the horizon, don't blame others that can.
5. Me rely on you? What a joke! You really think that in the event of law & order breakdown that every battle will be on the coulour of our skins?
Not every battle, but sadly most. It's human nature Smiler, whether you care to admit it or not. Just look at the racial demographics of the London rioters compared to those that volunteered to clean up afterwards. It doesn't look good, does it.
6. Six zerohedge voters back your opinion and not mine. Not at all a surpise. Just disagree with gold not being @ $2000 next week and you get a guaranteed 100% downvote from this lot. If they don't like the truth, they downvote you. Tell you what, why don't you emigrate across the pond where there is no racial intolerance?
Your ad hominem attacks (and those against the ZH community as a whole) don't surprise me. So often one runs into knee jerk denialist responses to actual facts when someone's cocoon of belief is in danger of being punctured.
7. "Britons really aren't accustomed to tough times". What on earth is that supposed to mean?
You know exactly what I mean. We have one of the highest GDP's (for what it's worth) in the world. No one in Britain is starving, despite the recession. We have fought hard in 2 World Wars but didn't suffer as badly as many did in those awful conflicts, and we haven't had serious internal conflict in over three hundred years. Thanks to Labour's (and Conservative's) brainless immigration policy, plus a debt bubble larger than the one that caused the great depression, that last point is about to change.
8. Actually don't bother answering. I have people of all races to look after in my working life. Wouldn't it be hilarious for the likes of you if you end up in hospital relying on your life from people without the same colour skin as you. Will you refuse their help? Will you? Of course not, if you need medical help, you'll accept it from anybody.
I don't discriminate on the basis on skin colour Smiler. But that doesn't mean I have to think we're all the same and that all the races and cultures in the world are equal and compatible with each other. History (and common sense) tells us that they aren't. I'm sorry if you have trouble coming to terms with this, but it's reality nevertheless.
All you could do was downvote. Your intelligence is clearly too low to respond, pathetic thick rascist scum.
"Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces."
One could wonder if the Nazis in Greece will get the same level of help Nazis in Germany used to get from the US back in the 1930s...
Could be a very effective way from Greece to secure the US support.
Time will tell.
Oops, you forgot to mention "US Citizenism" or 'Americans' here!
The Central Committee's Department of Anti-American Engrish Propaganda Blobbing-Uppityness is not going to be happy with you.
With you as a leader of it, it comes as no surprise.
Your devastatingly biting sarcasm and erudite wit are both on a par with your general level of intelligence and knowledge of history.
That sets them quite high...
It sets them firmly in the muck of a shat-up Chinese roadside, where also rests your intellectual and moral integrity (or, to be precise, where rests their complete and total absence).
If it only were in US citizenisms interest that Greek citizenism take on Western European leftist regimes, Turkey, Russia and Israel...all at once.
I've been to Greece... several times... (before the recent difficulties.) Except for the 3 hours in the Greek special forces training Camp guard shack looking at the wrong end of a Thompson SM held by a Greek SFO, I rather liked the place!
OMG! What next!
Thursday, September 20, 2012 11:20:33 AM (GR) Greece creditors evaluating another debt haircut in order for the country to achieve sustainability - Germany press- IMF pushing creditors to accept a new haircut that would not involve the ECB or the IMFTo be honest I do not know how the "ordinary common people" lived under the nazis.. but I have heard rumors there where no crime.. no gangs of blacks and arabs on the street raping and robbing hard working people and so on...
They handled the communists quite well... and communism is the worst shit ever (ask the soviets and the north koreans).
So I would not mind giving it a go here, it could hardly be worse than the current socialist/communist-light/bankster system we have right now??
If that means to get rid of the money changers and the stealing gypsies on the street and resist the islamic takeover, I do not really mind that much.
You are right, you have no fucking clue what you are talkin about.
Ordinary people with a brain lived in hell or,when they talked a bit to much, in an Konzentrationslager ,
which is an equivalent of a Fema camp I suppose.
You are an Idiot.
I wonder how the average man lived during the years of the Black Plague? Couldn't have been too terrible or we would hear more about it. So I guess it was just another way of doing things, right? Six of one is a half dozen of the other, as they say.
War. Pestilence. Disease. Genocide. Hitler Hitler Hitler. I don't have any direct personal exposure to those things, so they must be okay. Oh hum -- wake me when it gets interesting.
These guys play it smart because they pass out food to people. The other day they beat up some doctor that wanted a bribe from an elderly woman. They win the hearts of people. That is their strategy. They jump into the hole that the traditional party failed to fill. But they are nazis alright. Nazis that hate the Germans. Yes, irony is a funny thing.
People are stupid
It's painful to watch.
Golden Dawn are not Nazis in any bad sense, and they don't hate the Germans.
Oy vey! Es gibt die Nazis und die Hakenkreuze überall! Ich hab mein Bett nass gemacht!
So far here in Spain no fascist party has been rising too far. There have been a few fascist parties getting more votes than normal (they even got councilors at some towns), but luckily, nothing serious. This despite having the same unemployment problem as Greece.
As for the secessionist push by Catalonia (nothing firm yet), some high ranks in the Spanish Army have already manifested their willingness to "get the tanks to the street". According to the current Spanish constitution, the army is supposed to defend Spain's territorial integrity. I ignore how much representative are these high ranks' views on this subject inside the army.
I guess that, in the end, it won't be the people's will that will matter, but the elite's. Which does not mean that our will is not worth a fight.
"I guess that, in the end, it won't be the people's will that will matter, but the elite's."
It is ever so.
Photo caption:
"No Souvlaki for YOU!"
Why would anyone look to neo-nazi as a solution? How about independence? or capitalism? How about leave me the hell alone?
The wonderful innovation of Facism is that you get to kill whole groups of people you don't like and take all their stuff.
It's an economic system based on plunder. See the attraction now?
So that's why American Indians have reservations
Fascism arises out of the appearance or the reality of the other systems failure.
Come on... SERIOUSLY... have you ever seen a street mob of individualists?
You mean like OWS?
OWS? INDIVIDUALISTS???
ROTFLMBO!!!
You've GOT to be kidding.
OWS is a very weak example. Do you have a better one.
" a mob of individualists" dat funny
Someone mentioned that tension is building, in some European countries, concerning the vast populations of third world immigrants. By the time any of them explode, it will be too late.
NPR this morning: Toppenish, Washington state, has 3% Caucasian population. I used to live near there. My favorite climate in the US. Now a Mexican barrio. The entire Columbia Basin is that way. Texas is nearly at a tipping point for a Mexican majority. If immigration was frozen today, they breed fast enough to be a majority in a few years, anyway. If the Republicans lose Texas there is absolutely no formula or pathway to ever win the presidency again.
I am hoping for a Republican rout this November because some are predicting that it would lead to the demise of the Republican Party. We can only hope. Maybe a real conservative party can grow out of the ashes.
Golden Dawn is making a good show in parliament. The channels show them regularly calling the
governing parties a sorry bunch of panty-waists, or some such thing. They make good sound bites.
They obviously mean what they say.
In the streets , they're pulling rather harmless stunts against illegal immigrants illegally selling
wares in the street, because the police turns a blind eye.
I support their stand, but I'm not sure about the violent methods. Greece needs a shake-up,
either way. It takes a nationalist to see how the EU is destroying the periphery, and want to do
something about it. Greeks have historically taken the bad with the good, with the two formerly-main
parties. However, their shit is really starting to stink, as you well know.
I don't know what the result will be if GD becomes the government, but it's increasingly worth the risk
to find out.
It's not just the banksters and corrupt government, but the illegal immigration that is an virtual
industry. An underground railroad.
Meanwhile the majority elderly will vote for keeping their Euro sponsored pensions.
PASOK.
NO change in sight.
And I thought all the news these days was bad news...this has me feeling hopeful for once.
No doubt.
Does anyone know how political party paraphanalia can be purchased from some of these European political parties? I have been unsuccessful at purchasing coffee mugs, knick knacks, and the like from the FPO, Vlaams, Democraterna, Danish Folk Partei, Republikaner Partei, Golden Dawn, etc. Apparently, national laws prevent donations, including product purchases from foreigners.
Funny how any political party that DARES to stand up for THEIR country, and not submit to globalism is termed "neo-nazi" by the MSM. Nationalistic? Yes, but neo-nazi? No. The BNP in Britain has been falsely labeled neo-nazi for years. Funny how it's voter base keeps increasing among the native born Brits. STOP CARING ABOUT YOUR COUNTRY! YOU DON'T WANT TO BE LABELED A NEO-NAZI DO YOU?
Remember Frank Lowy? Allow me to remind you who he is:
The WTC towers were publicly owned by the New York Port Authority until one Lewis Eisenberg, a zionist Jew, became the Chairman of said port authority and sold the towers to two other Zionist Jews, Larry Silverstien and Frank Lowy, even though their bid on the towers was apparently lower. Frank Lowy is a former para-commando in the IDF, and Silverstien is a former Chaiman of the UJIA (United Jewish Israel Appeal).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Lowy
http://www.ujia.org/
That same Frank Lowy has been making a full-on warp-fest, to attempt to twist the violent muslim protests in Sydney last weekend into a massive win and huge positive indication for multicultural diversity in Australia. And the public broadcaster, the ABC (otherwise known as the GayBC), has been going out of its way to spread his message, to the dull and impressionable chumps:
Lowy hails multiculturalism in wake of protests
Updated September 20, 2012 06:30:56
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-09-20/lowy-hails-multiculturalism-in-wak...
Lowy urges migrants to honour Australian values
Updated September 20, 2012 08:07:00
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-09-20/lowy-urges-migrants-to-honour-aust...
Lowy hails multiculturalism in wake of protests
Updated September 20, 2012 12:39:31
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-09-19/frank-lowy-multicultural-address/4...
M U S C U L A R A P P R O A C H ?
What?! "... a more muscular approach to our civic life in a distinctly Australian way,"
The problem with this warped, perverse and undefined rancid bombastict zionist drivel, is that anyone over 35 years old would know that his sort of spun multicultural ideology horseshit has absolutely nothing to do with the "Australian way".
An Australian way is exactly what it isn't, this is a foreign introduced pile of crap, that had been insert into the public 'debate' via socialists media commentators, many of them working for the ABC, and many if not most of them Jewish, or sponsored and encouraged by Jewish organisations.
So we have an ultra-dodgy Zionist Jewish billionaire, deeply implicated in the events surrounding 9-11, which was undoubtedly an inside job, who is now attempting to brain-wash us and shape the public discourse and 'debate'. And is using an undeminned public media institution, that we ourselves paid for to further the insane fantasy that waht is not working acceptably, is 'needed' even more, and for a more "muscular approach" to multiculturalism, Australian patriotism, and civic life?
But if I were to go to the ABC website today, and post this as a valid comment by a real Austalian, it would not get past 'moderation', and would never become a part of the alleged 'inclusive' and exhaustive debate/discourse process that the ABC pretends to represent as the spectrum of views of ordinary Australians in this country.
Only immigrants and people towwing the multicultural line, or else not straying too far from it are allow to be in such an inclusive discussion you see. heaven forbid that actual Australians should be permitted to make their views known, or be heard without being denigrated for speaking truth the zionist suck-ups don't want voiced.
Well, I see no problem with the 'logik' of Lowy.
Just let's see the policy applied to Israel, FIRST, for 50 years or so, then come back and tell us how that went zio-turds.
And I wouldn't even want to suggest that Lowy's a treacherous duel-national zionist, engaged in an operation to undermine and destabilise our country, with an imported fifth column, which he himself knows would kill Israel stone dead, and thus to dissipate the former cultural unity and strength.
As there's just no way an avid Zionist 9-11 insider would use multiculturalism as a global Trojan Horse to bring once super-stable peaceful western countries into increasing civil dysfunction.
Hey Lowy, you zionist bloat-fly, we never used to have this issue before you kicked off 9-11 mate:
http://rt.com/news/child-protest-sign-violence-323/
http://rt.com/news/police-australia-protesters-sydney-187/