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Postcards From A Furious China
Over the past 48 hours we have written much, describing the perfectly expected surge in nationalist fervor and anti-Japanese sentiment, as the Senkaku Islands Snafu hits its boiling point - a Japan whose GDP is now declining in real terms, whose economy has been crippled by years of deflation, whose infrastructure is impaired due to anti-nuclear power sentiment, and one which generally can not afford an all out diplomatic, political and economic conflict with China, and may thus ask itself: why escalate and just who prompted it do so now? A Japan whose economic status is best summarized with the following chart:
Instead we'll let the pictures do the talking.
From brightonatreddit
Demonstrations in Changsha, Hunan
A store display in Nanjing bears the sign THE DIAOYU ISLANDS BELONG TO CHINA!.
A banner on a store called pattad reads: "pattad firmly defends China's right to the Diaoyu Islands. / We will give a 15% discount to customers who yell THE DIAOYU ISLANDS BELONG TO CHINA! in the store / We will give a 20% discount to customers who yell JAPAN ALSO BELONGS TO CHINA!"
Demonstrations in China
Chinese protestors congregate outside the Japanese embassy in Beijing.
At an auto show, a Chinese brand car is draped in a PRC flag that reads PATRIOTIC SPENDING / BUY CHINESE GOODS.
Chinese flags outside a sushi restaurant.
A sushi restaurant in Suzhou is demolished by protestors.
Rioters in Qingdao demolish shops.
"JAPANESE GUESTS ARE NOT CURRENTLY BEING ACCOMMODATED BY OUR HOTEL"
Rioters smash cars, burn buildings
Rioters smash cars, burn buildings
A man in Xi'an holds a sign that reads CAR SMASHINGS AHEAD, JAPANESE CAR OWNERS SHOULD TURN BACK NOW
Protestors rally outside a Heiwado shop in Changsha, Hunan.
Demonstrations
A pig wears a headband that resembles the Japanese flag
Rioters loot a Rolex store
Demonstrations in this location turn violent
A hair salon named "Korean-style Haircuts" hangs a banner that says JAPANESE AND DOGS NOT ALLOWED INSIDE
Employees at a dealership hold up a sign that says WE WILL KILL EVERY JAPANESE PERSON EVEN IF IT MEANS DEATHS FOR OUR OWN; EVEN POVERTY WILL NOT DETER US FROM RECLAIMING THE DIAOYU ISLANDS
Demonstrators flanked by policemen
Protestors in Chaoshan hold up a sign that says GET OUT OF THE DIAOYU ISLANDS, JAPANESE DOGS
Japanese brand cars are overturned by rioters
A woman tries to stop rioters from demolishing her Japanese brand car
An unidentified building is set on fire
The sign in the foreground reads DEFEND DIAOYU ISLANDS TILL OUR DEATHS and FUCK JAPAN
A private company has rented a bus to drive around town bearing the messages THE DIAOYU ISLANDS BELONG TO CHINA and GET THE FUCK OUT OF DIAOYU, JAPAN
A woman discovers her Japanese brand car has been demolished
A display outside a Uniqlo shop
A Honda owner drove his car to the nearest Honda dealership and set it on fire; banners in the back read DEFEAT THE JAPANESE DEMONS
A Toyota dealership in Shanghai is set on fire
Demonstrators in Chongqing
Demonstrators in Nanjing
The owner of a Japanese vehicle has covered his car in the following messages: BOYCOTT JAPANESE GOODS, WRECK THE JAPANESE ECONOMY / I BOUGHT THIS CAR BEFORE JAPAN FUCKED THINGS UP / FROM NOW ON, I WILL BOYCOTT ALL JAPANESE PRODUCTS
Demonstrations in Yunnan
And since there is still confusion over what all the hoopla is about, here is a map:
h/t John Aziz
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can't we try to put a nwo style explanation on this ?
if i remember well i read here on zh some stuff about countries in Asia trying to build bilateral agreements to avoid transactions in USD
if JP and CN are (or are expected to be) in such agreements, maybe "someone" is not happy about that and would do anything to provoque a "disagreement" ?
So the average Chinese citizen is just as stupid and ignorant as citizens in every other country.
So where is An Anonymous when you want him, to explain the recent actions of "chinese citizenism"?
We don't need an "anonymous". See, the Chinese government will throw into jail anyone who dares protest against things like the Chinese government stealing land from peasants, but when anything at all comes up about Japan, they let the riots roll. The chinese media is censored when it benefits the criminals who run the country. Which is why the US government is working so hard "to protect us" from our own meida.
Wow those islands are muy importante! Just think of the goats and stuff you could put on say one, nay two, of those precious precious islands.
We can conclude that China doesn't have carriers that are worth a damn if they need islands that aren't worth a damn.
Naa, the Chinese government just likes to bitch and moan about the Japs when they can. Goes back to the invasion of 1937.
This may be a very important piece of the puzzle:
http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2012/09/supranational-asean-is-super-f...
It seems as though the West has been busy trying to orchestrate a regional Asian union (ASEAN pact) to push back against Chinese dominance of the region....containment by the US, ya know....as the US sees China as a future threat.
So, the NED-type folks arrange for an ugly Chinese riot-fest to create solitary b/t the ASEAN members, as it has not been going so well for the group lately.
The above piece is by Tony Cartalucci, one of the BEST independent analysts out there.
Future threat? They been a threat for decades.
Washington has declined to take sides in the Senkaku row, but acknowledges that under the US-Japan security treaty it is required to come to its ally's aid if it is attacked.
Japan's foreign minister, Koichiro Gemba, who met Panetta in Tokyo on Monday, said it was "mutually understood between Japan and the United States that (the Senkakus) are covered by the treaty".
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/sep/17/japanese-firms-close-offices...
if the Chinese protest against their land being stolen from them by crooked Chinese government officials, which they do frequently, they get thrown into jail and hanged before the stiory is even allowed to be printed. But a story about tiny stupid f****ing island, and they can burn Japanese businesses and cars. Stupid Chinese.
I chatted with numerous Chinese and none, and I mean none, understood that Mao killed 20x more Chinese than the Japanese did during their reign of terror in the 30's and 40's. I think it will be China that first starts a war because of the worsening economic condition rather than a Western power.
perhaps a few decades of the NDAA in amrka will demonstrate how effective disappearing anyone who pays attention to the "gov" actually is.
particularly on the subsequent generations. . . it was the children who were encouraged to turn in the adults, often their parents. that has to have lingering memories, working as intended.
That's just the NWO initiative to destroy the nuclear family.
Family is the only obstruction to complete domination by a ruling class of "families".
what is best for a government under stress than to call up the ugly face of Notionalism/Patriotism to deflect from economical/social daily problems.
We saw it here in the US when the Bush governement use 9/11 ad nauseum to brainwash people brain and shut up any criticism.
China his even worst than the US. Their long history make the people very hyper-nationalist. That has been a boon for the communist master for years.
I hope the chinese society will solve its internal problems first, may be through civil war, before they turn their wrath on their neigbhour. Do not expect mercy.
They only be hypernationalists when their boss, or party spies are looking.
Rest of time, they only want fishhead and rice.
I speculate that this would probably be a limited military engagement between China and Japan. China wants Japan to lose face, and maybe cull a few thousand Chinese men. Just enough of an engagement for China to gain some military prestige for the Chinese leadership to get some political stroke with their population---before the Chinese public loses patience with their leadership.
A protracted war with China would really screw up Japanese demographics even more, and they can't afford the loss of any of their youth. I bet they'd conceed a military loss fairly quickly. The days of budo are long since past, even though the Japanese Defence Force is a very good military, with excellent troops.
Jethro; there will be no military war between Japan and China. The US and China is much more likely. The US Navy's 7th Fleet is home ported in Yokosuka, Japan. Besides, by treaty the US is obligated to defend Japan in the event of any war.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/yokosuka.htm
So you have these huge blue water navy ships, all tightly grouped together in the Persian Gulf. That is a recipe for disaster. This will be a brown water navy war, favoring Iran's tactics. The countries mentioned {especially the US} have not fought against a country armed with modern attack submarines since WW2. This will be interesting. Iran's best chance of success is to hit the US fleet with every thing they have all at once. A combined attack from the air, on and below the surface would be very difficult to effectively repel. Super carriers are great at projecting power against a country without modern submarines, but against subs, they are just big, tasty targets. Take out a couple of carriers and the mission is compromised significantly. Lure them into narrow shallow waters and they are finished, as their sonar capabilities are greatly diminished. They would never find the subs until after they were hit by it's missiles and torpedoes; too late.
You do realize that the United States has submarines of its own for ASW and that defense against Soviet saturation strikes with large numbers of high speed missiles are what the Navy prepared for for many years? I'm not saying that that large scale warfare in the Persian Gulf is a good idea by any means, but let's be realistic here.
I am being serious, I know ALLOT about US submarines as I served on one, {although not very recently}.
Was that a diesel boat, or did you have to turn the prop by hand?
The average person in China couldn't find those islands on a detailed map, just like the average person in America couldn't fucking find Iraq on a map. And yet they'll gladly clamor for military confrontation, in this case over some completely worthless rocks and the surrounding water.
Fucking sheep. This is not going to turn into a war, the Japanese and Chinese leadership are far, far more shrewd and intelligent than that, even if they hate each other, and neither nation stands to gain anything that would even begin to recoup the costs. This is a controlled spectacle, a media-designated politically approved distraction from real issues like Chinese inflation and Japanese deflation, debt, power generation/fuel imports, real estate prices, demographics, etc.
The masses get to vent some pent up collective frustration on a totally unrelated and in fact irrelevant issue, the real issues remain, the rulers and their enablers live to lie another day.
Change the names and you have the exact the same dynamic at work with the North African/Middle East/Indian Muslim protests.
Common thread: clownlike imbeciles focusing on political problems and political solutions rather than anything that actually fucking matters to regular people and everyday life - how many news analyses, ZH aside, have touched on food price inflation as, you know, maybe somehow related?
To the Americans on here waving their finger and pretending to be much better, please read a bit of world history and think about this:
Animosity between Japan and China is simmering just under the surface much the same as the hostility in the USA toward Iran, for exactly the same reasons. Americans can’t seem to forget the 1979 hostage taking in Tehran, and Chinese still seethe at the brutality of the Japanese occupation prior to the Second World War. The main difference is that the Chinese take to the street and visibly vent their frustration, while Americans squeeze their Starbucks cup, exerting themselves to pound their chest and wishing they could bring nukes raining down on anyone who displeases them. The powers that be know of these resentments and actively encourage the incarnation whenever it can be channeled to their advantage. France, Britain, and US have massive assemblies of warships in the waters around Persia; Taiwan, Japan, and China are sending warships to an insignificant sea mount in the middle of nowhere; Israel is hoping for US approval to attack first (much like Saddam Hussein going into Kuwait); India just deployed 40,000 troops and armour to the Chinese frontier.
We are officially on the road to global conflict, and no nation will be untouched this time.