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As Predicted On Friday, Dexia CDS Rips And Stock Implodes On Partial Nationalization

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Tue, 10/04/2011 - 06:47 | 1736324 GeneMarchbanks
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Epic Fail. It begins... Deutsche Bank just joined the race to failure, good to see the race heating up.

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 06:50 | 1736328 Ken Frost
Tue, 10/04/2011 - 06:57 | 1736345 Tyler Durden
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Or, instead of linking to tabloids, you can go back in ZH archives to February 2010, when we showed this data for the first time.

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 07:00 | 1736348 Ken Frost
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even better:)

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 07:02 | 1736352 GeneMarchbanks
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The Swiss got Waffles beat...

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 08:06 | 1736476 The PolyCapitalist
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Great chart, but I assume that for Dexia you used just Belgium's GDP and not France's?

Both countries are bailing out Dexia so it would probably be more accurate to add together the GDP of both countries for Dexia's ratio.

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 08:17 | 1736508 EscapeKey
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Would be nice if net notional derivative positions were added to these charts; I doubt the American banks would look as healthy if they were to be.

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 06:53 | 1736331 Dingleberry
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Christmas is coming early!! Now if Goldman would go down too..

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 06:54 | 1736334 Reptil
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Eeeermmm... How can you nationalize a bank (transfer toxic assets to the public account) when there's not even an elected government?

Oh the European Commission is the government, you say? Ah yes.. Mais Oui!

Timberrrrr.... (Attention, les Arbres!)


Tue, 10/04/2011 - 06:54 | 1736335 Dick Darlington
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Last time, 2008-2009, when Dexia was bailed out, the liability cap for governments was 150 billion. It was splitted btwn the governments as follows: Belgium 60,5%, France 36,5% and Luxembourg 3%.

Expecting Belgium downgrade pretty soon...

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 06:55 | 1736338 eigenvalue
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If France wastes so much dry powder now, will it have enough capacity when Socgen, BNP and CA need help?

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 06:55 | 1736339 doomandbloom
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Waffled, bitchez

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 07:08 | 1736362 Cassandra Syndrome
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In Bruges, Bitchez

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 06:55 | 1736340 slewie the pi-rat
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<zombies quietly shuffling paper>

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 06:56 | 1736341 HedgeAccordingly
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GOOD MORNING VIET.. errrr i mean Eurozone

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 06:56 | 1736342 papaswamp
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How do coutries deeply in debt 'back' anything? This literally is a game of 'let's pretend'. They are already trying to back other countries and now this? Seriously....when is an adult going to say, I'm sorry this is reality, the game of pretend is over.....

I wish I could pretend I have millions and go buy what ever I want...just tell the merchant I guaruntee that payments will be made....

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 07:00 | 1736349 jbc77
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All they can do now is keep playing pretend. Thats how desperate the bankers are. Did we expect them to start telling the truth. The truth won't come out until an absolute and utter meltdown occurs....again. We are living in a modern day financial Twilight Zone. They will pretend until the can pretend no more. Grab some popcorn, this is gonna get good...the math never lies and always catches up in the end.

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 07:53 | 1736443 nonclaim
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How do coutries deeply in debt 'back' anything?

Full faith in the government... errm, if they had one, maybe.

So, let's pretend and all is well!

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 06:57 | 1736343 Drag Racer
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How much did the Koch brothers have on deposit at Dexia?

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 06:57 | 1736344 nmewn
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All this burning paper.

Perfect timing...its getting cold.

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 07:02 | 1736351 wombats
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Since I don't own their stock and do not do business with them is there a reason for me to care about Dexia's fate?

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 07:36 | 1736411 richard in norway
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yes because it can/will pull other banks/finacial institutions down, watch those credit default swaps go bang

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 08:19 | 1736514 EscapeKey
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I bet that's what people said about Kreditanstalt as well.

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 07:04 | 1736355 Migrated Bird
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Good Call ZH. Impressive. Not sure if I should be happy or sad. Cause if all your calls turn out to be right like this, we are looking at financial armageddon..

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 07:05 | 1736356 The Axe
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Two for Tuesday....ZH  and those young people keeping their protest on Wall Street alive. Well done...

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 07:07 | 1736361 BandGap
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The disconnect between mainstream reporting to the masses (eat the cheese, please) and reality is widening.  Or at least lacks the detail for proper inspection.  Or even worse, we have a population with their heads in the sand worrying about Tom Brady and NFL spreads.  Sad and frightening at the same time.

The winter of discontent looms. 

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 07:28 | 1736394 Dick Darlington
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Tue, 10/04/2011 - 07:52 | 1736442 sabra1
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if BAC can have downtime, why not Dexia? what's wrong with them!

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 08:10 | 1736485 Mister Ponzi
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Why is it necessarily positive for the CDS when Dexia is nationalized? I remember the nationalization of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac which triggered the CDS of both entities, and the corresponding auction led to losses in some CDS classes.

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 08:14 | 1736497 Mike2756
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Yeah, it seems like only the depositors are being protected.

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 08:13 | 1736495 Mike2756
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Partial nationalization? No more bailouts for the bonus babies?

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 08:19 | 1736512 Peter K
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I think we are all missing the point. The restructuring is to allow Dexia to "open new branchs in France and Belgium". Don't you people read :)

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 08:44 | 1736584 dcb
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yes, but you forgot the follow up headline. management walks away wikth millions in bonus money from the tax payer

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 12:04 | 1737425 BlackholeDivestment
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 It was reported in the EU news today, Belgian Frogs, with a financial virus known as ''Dexia'', attacked Labor. A trader on the floor was heard to have shouted out ''...like it was Lord of The Flies ...Bitchez''. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPOVmWzeqEo

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