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Presenting Anonymous' "Survival Guide For Citizens In A Revolution"

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Following the fireworks from this weekend in which Anonymous hacked and exposed thousands of Stratfor clients and millions of confidential emails, it may be time to pay some more attention to the hacker collective, and specifically a document that was released a few weeks ago titled "Survival Guide for Citizens in a Revolution." As Anonymous itself says, "This is a snapshot of what Anonymous thinks will be useful for your survival in case of a violent revolution in your country. As most of Anonymous works, it will be constantly changed, reused, improved etc. So watch for newer releases." Because all it takes for complete chaos to erupt in addition to the unwind in the financial system, is for one or two major hacks at system critical institutions to precipitate all out social panic. And who knows - while the financial system will self destruct on is own, perhaps Anonymous itself will do this or that vis-a-vis the latter.

Complete guide (source):

 

h/t LoneStarHog

 

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Tue, 12/27/2011 - 20:42 | 2015085 pods
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Seems that it had its intended effect?

"The weapon was valued as much for its psychological warfare effect as its actual field performance."

"In reality, the OSS never saw the practicality in mass dropping the Liberator over occupied Europe, and only a handful were ever distributed."

Go ahead, grab a single shot, unrifled barrel, 45, I will keep what I have.  Just because I know the limits of certain firearms does not mean I will be in some kind of camp.

If you are thinking that the use of the tactics you linked are going to work, enjoy your dirtnap!

pods

Wed, 12/28/2011 - 00:09 | 2015312 Calmyourself
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I linked no tactics, it was a simple description of a liberator pistol.  Posted in answer to your supposition of the impossibility of taking on the "man" with a 12 ga and a pistol..  Cong had m44 and sks if lucky and they took on the frenchies and someone else who was that again??

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:46 | 2014213 Gully Foyle
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pods

"Why is it the most basic tool of self defense is overlooked and they go to great extremes to talk about other things?"

How the fuck is a gun a "basic tool"? Once you are out of ammo you gonna use it as a club?

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 15:06 | 2014277 MachoMan
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a gun is a basic tool...

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 15:24 | 2014330 blu
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No, a brain is a basic tool. From clear thinking all else proceeds. And if you need a gun then you come up with one. This country is awash in weapons of all kinds don't tell me you can't get one on a hour's notice. Failing that, just hang around the cops for a little while and you'll either be dead or armed like they are. Nobody said it wasn't without risk, but really they are and will ever be out-numbered and out-gunned. In the end, they lose. Fact.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 19:03 | 2014910 Potemkin Villag...
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"a brain is a basic tool."

---

Let's compromise...

I'll go as far as to say that in Washington DC there are a lot of people who think they have BRAINS, but rather, are BASICally "TOOLS"...

OK?

 

Wed, 12/28/2011 - 10:35 | 2015816 MachoMan
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Based upon the wikipedia definition of tool, the body's functions (including thoughts) are consumed in the process of using tools...  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tool

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 15:20 | 2014318 pods
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Don't really follow your argument.  How is a gun NOT a basic tool?

Or by basic tools do you mean ones that will not wear out or have moving parts?

How much ammo could you possibly use?  You could have as few as 500 rounds and that could last several lifetimes.

pods

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 17:40 | 2014735 NotApplicable
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I spent yesterday looking for 3 boxes of shells I hid somewhere a couple of years ago. I suspect they may last my entire life.

Anybody else use 12 ga magnum w/ 00 buckshot for tree trimming?

Gotta remember to get some more on the way home. (and beer, as there is a two drink minimum for yard work)

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 22:30 | 2015208 Socratic Dog
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500 rounds won't last long if you actually PRACTICE.

If you don't practice, then you are not prepared.

Wed, 12/28/2011 - 01:51 | 2015404 MsCreant
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And if you have family, really, 1000 rounds can go kind of quick.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 16:14 | 2014473 scattergun
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Why would I run out of ammo?

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 18:13 | 2014814 Calmyourself
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Seriously, REALLY??  Is a wrench a basic tool, if like you, you happen to have no nuts?

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 22:28 | 2015203 DosZap
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Gully Foyle,

How the fuck is a gun a "basic tool"? Once you are out of ammo you gonna use it as a club?

Trust me,once you run out of ammo, there will be plenty of it left over, and bettter weapons lying around that use it.Their owners won't be needing them any longer.

Thu, 12/29/2011 - 13:27 | 2019594 Hollywoodcole
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Actually, yes, that is a perfectly acceptable alternative when you run out of ammo "in the stuff", and folks training in CQB will actually address that.  Now I'm not saying that you'd run around clubbing people with your AK, but that is certainly a viable alternative.

 

And I don't plan on running out of ammo........

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:21 | 2014136 Silver Dreamer
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Now I'm glad the link was blocked at work.  Thanks for the heads up!

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 13:25 | 2013961 Schmuck Raker
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It dozint even talk about duck-tapping your windows n stuf, thats dum.

Wed, 12/28/2011 - 00:11 | 2015317 Calmyourself
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I tapped a few ducks on a window careful if you do this they don't like it...  Probably should have lit a candle and used some more lube.. ha

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 13:26 | 2013965 Long-John-Silver
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Beans, Bullets, and Bullion. This is all you need to know in the simplest terms. 

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 13:39 | 2014011 Falcon15
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Beans, bullets, bandaids. Bullion is after you have the rest in place.
http://youtu.be/YO1KHppJOIU

 

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 13:47 | 2014038 Incubus
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any form of modesty or deceny aside, we all know it's really beans, bullets, bullion, and bitches. 

 

No need to feign civility. 

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 13:54 | 2014054 FrankIvy
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babes, not bitches.  Leave the bitches to the zombies.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:11 | 2014114 BeansBulletsBandaids
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you rang???

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:31 | 2014167 Falcon15
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Booyah, now that I have you in place, I can start stacking again. ;)

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:48 | 2014219 Gully Foyle
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Falcon15

I would trade the bullets for a nice rundown hovel. You know something no one expects to have Gold hidden in the stinking septic tank.

Rovers will come steal your beans thinking that's all you have to offer.


Tue, 12/27/2011 - 15:18 | 2014246 Falcon15
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Two words, Gully, (and you certainly are not reflective of the later day Foyle): Molon Labe. Additionally, I am so far off the map as it were, the odds of first: folks stumbling across my place, and second, getting through 40 well armed adults is miniscule. So I'll make my list, you change it to suit you, to each his own.

 

 

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:05 | 2014088 CrockettAlmanac.com
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"I was determined to know beans." -- Henry David Thoreau's Walden

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:45 | 2014209 slowimplosion
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As someone who has been storing food since 2005, I'd like to say something about beans.  Dried beans would seem to be the perfect emergency storage food.  But in practice, I have found they are not.  Once your pinto beans are about a year old, you can boil them for a week and they will not take on water and soften like they should.

 

Now, research on this is a mixed bag.  Many sites don't even mention this.  IF you can store them in an oxygen-free environment they may do better.  If you can store them below room temperature, they may do better.

But it does suck to find out that you have 50 lbs of pintos you cannot eat.  I did plant them and the deer did like them when they grew up.  Perhaps that is a long term convert-to-protein strategy.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 17:51 | 2014765 NotApplicable
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Best advice I've found is to eat from your stock on an ongoing basis, replenishing periodically. This gives you the benefits of keeping your stock fresh, and since your supply is just the regular food you eat, there's no adjustment to a SHTF diet.

So for each item, don't stock any more than you can ever eat before it goes bad (exceptions for barter goods, and others that will disappear quickly).

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 18:55 | 2014886 Rynak
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Besides of a few rare examples, there aren't really much examples of dried food, that is in any way encouraging to eat after lots of years.

So, you WILL need to restock periodically.... which means that the food should either be cheap (so that one can afford to throw it away when restocking).... or "tasty" enough, that you can use it for your normal meals now from time to time, thus restocking in steps.

Also, only betting everything on one or two types of dried food seems kinda demotivating..... and also not really healthy.... do you really want to live like 3 months from only one type of food?

Bottom line: Make it diverse enough to be attractive, yet simplistic enough to be manageable. And make it either cheap, or something you can use for meals NOW.

Another hint: Do NOT overstock. How probable is the doomsday scenario of you getting ZERO (0, nada!) access to food for one year? Near zero? Thought so. There will be others who aren't prepared, so chances are that there WILL be some food accessable, even if perhaps not enough. Thus, what your food stock needs to do, is NOT you surviving on it alone, but rather make food a none-issue to you, considering the circumstances. Rations for 3-6 months are more than sufficient for this, and neither take up much space, nor are that expensive.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 22:41 | 2015216 akak
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As someone who has been storing food since 2005, I'd like to say something about beans.  Dried beans would seem to be the perfect emergency storage food.  But in practice, I have found they are not.  Once your pinto beans are about a year old, you can boil them for a week and they will not take on water and soften like they should.

Slowimplosion, I have a hard time understanding how or why that should be happening to you --- I have used dried pinto beans, stored at cool room temperature for up to four years, and have found them to cook up essentially the same as any other dried pinto beans, or any OTHER kind of dried beans as well.  Did you pre-soak them overnight, as is recommended for almost all dried beans?

Wed, 12/28/2011 - 03:03 | 2015452 Potemkin Villag...
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Same here... Though I keep everything either completely airtight, or mostly... Also, if you're storing, one of the main things you have to consider is that mice will just about chew through anything (so you have to put it in something sturdy like one of those large plastic bins... I haven't had any mice chew through those yet (especially if you leave some "easy to get" stuff lying around)...

Which brings up another point... Even if your older (dried) food is past its prime, why feed it to the deer? Keep it... & if others come by to loot you, give it to them (& pretend that's all you've got)... Keep the good stuff very well hidden...

 

Wed, 12/28/2011 - 11:59 | 2016156 Waterfallsparkles
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Slow Implosion,

Dried beans take longer to cook in high altitutes.  My Cousin lives in a Mountain area and she said it takes a day or 2 to cook dried beans.

Remember you have to soak them for at least a day in warm water first.

Where do you live?

Wed, 12/28/2011 - 13:17 | 2016496 slowimplosion
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I live in Texas.  I love beans and eat them quite often, but have to say that storing dried beans long term doesn't work for me.  We literally tried soaking them overnight then simmering all day into the evening.  It just didn't seem like they were ever going to soften like they should.

 

I suppose if a person has a way to grind them, that would work.  As a fallback, I have a LOT of canned beans which will keep for 10 years at least.

 

I'd also like to say in response to another post back there that storing what you eat and rotating through it is the very best strategy.  After perfecting our supplies we have a lot of stuff and very little of it is over 3 years old, which is nothing for canned foods and many dried foods.  Store what you eat and eat what you store and you will be good to go.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 13:37 | 2014008 V in PA
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Link to printable PDF

 

http://ncrenegade.com/PDF/Anon-guide.pdf

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 13:38 | 2014009 dick cheneys ghost
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rape?............weve been getting raped since nixon closed the gold window.........

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 13:41 | 2014015 FranSix
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Something very interesting in the municipal bond markets is happening right now.  1-year yields are trading at negative rates:

http://www.bloomberg.com/markets/rates-bonds/government-bonds/us/

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:09 | 2014104 JW n FL
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Europe to `Fall Apart' in 2012, Mauldin Says

http://www.bloomberg.com/video/83112286/

 

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 13:43 | 2014025 heinrich6666
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Anonymous could use better editors:

 

Be calm, think before you act, act rashly

 

A normal person might take this to mean: think before you act, then go act rashly.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:50 | 2014223 Gully Foyle
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heinrich6666

"Be calm, think before you act, act rashly"

I take it to mean you should share rashes in the hopes the enemy will be too distracted scratching to do you much harm.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 20:37 | 2015080 Rick Masters
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You made my day, that's hilarious.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 13:46 | 2014031 SumSUN
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My buddies and I are just starting to form a community for some SHTF scenarios.  Thanks for this Tyler.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 13:46 | 2014035 cat-foodcafe
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Suggest the internet will be severely restricted or "turned off" before Anon can complete their hacking into a "critical node...etc." This is starting to remind me of the Y2K Geek Power Trip..."We control the universe..." ego problem.  Who cares if Anon hacks The Squid.  At some point in the very near future, the internet and banks will be subjects of historical amusement.  And Anon will be claiming "they" brought down Western Civilization.  HA !

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:13 | 2014119 CrockettAlmanac.com
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You may be right but can you imagine the economic fallout of an Internet shutdown? Can "they" afford to risk it?

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:26 | 2014150 Silver Dreamer
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Well, we're not talking about a complete shut down necessarily.  It will be more like the "Internet" in China.  Use it with extreme caution.  Misuse could lead to a death sentence...

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:29 | 2014161 Falcon15
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TPTB have seperate and secured "internet" systems. One major hub for it is located in Montgomery, Alabama, in a heavy bunker (reinforced concrete, with EMP hardening). There may be a few days of "economic fallout" until the financials are rerouted onto a private military (read Federally) controlled system(s). There is limited risk. Just redirect some TCP/IP requests, and leave the remainder alone.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 13:48 | 2014040 Waterfallsparkles
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The on thing that will be essential is a gas powered chain saw. 2&1 Oil and gas to operate it.  Especially in the Northeast with the cold winters.  It would take forever to try and hand saw wood.

I do not know why everyone forgets that.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 13:53 | 2014052 FrankIvy
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You're being fatuous, of course, right?

If you can freely buy gasoline, then you're not in a crisis yet.

 

Here's a thought for you - much, much better than a chainsaw and gasoline or oil is a nice thick sweater, boots, thermals, hats, and so on.

 

The thought that we will be heating houses to 70 degrees in the after-oil age needs to be discarded.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:07 | 2014097 fuu
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I find using an axe workes pretty well. Chops up the wood, gives a good workout, and warms you up!

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:24 | 2014143 Falcon15
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It also builds skill for when bullets run out. A nice steady swing and good accuracy with an axe. Golden.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:25 | 2014145 Killtruck
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Wood heats three times: When you cut it, when you split it, and when you burn it. That little gem came from a former Austrian woodcutter I know.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:29 | 2014162 Silver Dreamer
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Just make sure you have wood stoves, not fireplaces.  Fireplaces are terribly inefficient and will waste the wood you worked hard to split.  If possible have more than one stove too to always have one running.  They require regular maintenance and cannot be "on" all of the time after all.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:47 | 2014200 fuu
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A nice portable rocket stove for cooking is not a bad idea. I made one this weekend out of some #10 cans, some soup cans, and perlite. The whole thing weighs 5 pounds. I was able to bring a gallon of water to boil in under 20 minutes using nothing but kindling under 1inx1in. When I was done boiling the water I stopped feeding the stove and still had radiant heat for 15-20 minutes till I dumped out the coals. Efficient fuel usage ftw.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-BQMpaW-E0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRbr3KsEjeE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6ValmUnjz4

Just examples.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:51 | 2014227 francis_sawyer
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@fuu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHtA-d9hNPk&feature=related

very simple, very efficient, very lightweight

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 16:50 | 2014575 KK Tipton
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Better ones (3 part on the MIDGE stove):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL531C5E0E548F6365&feature=plcp

Original MIDGE stove FTW.

If you don't learn to build one of these *today*....you deserve what's coming to you.

The MIDGE is the almost free version of this stove:
http://biolitestove.com/BioLite.html

Biolite can power it's own fan and charge a cell phone etc.

The MIDGE runs in the *exact* same way, no difference. Wind outdoors affects it a bit more than the Biolite. But you can build a MIDGE for a few bucks and have it running today. Learn how to use gasifier stoves. Memorize how to make one. Teach others.

The 3 videos at that YT channel show exactly how.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 17:08 | 2014641 fuu
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Nice, thanks for the info.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:45 | 2014206 francis_sawyer
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Waterfallsparkles, I'm sure, has already figured out the optimum time schedule for when the stove should be "ON"... As I read above... His 70 pound KELTY PACK is stuffed with:

- 2 gallons of gasoline (just less than 20 pounds)

- 2 pounds of motor oil

- a 15 pound chainsaw to cut wood with

- the usual 2 gallons of water (a little less than 20 pounds)

- a bic lighter

- a copy of the novel "WAR & PEACE" (3 pounds), for the YEAR that it's going to take his chainsawed wood to cure)

- 10 pounds of freeze dried SWISS MISS (with the little mini-marshmallows)

Wed, 12/28/2011 - 02:10 | 2015419 MsCreant
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He, is she. I like you, but back off.

I think there are levels of prep and we all get confused here. How SHTF are we talking? I think planning for many levels of them is not insane. 

You are right, if things are bad enough, the saw is a joke. But I have been in it where the saw was a savior and no one else was around to bail our asses out. That is a minor SHTF and the guy with the saw WAS ALL THAT AND MORE THAN A BAG OF CHIPS. 

FerFal (documents the Argentina crash) and others have great insight into this. It is not on or off with SHTF. Power comes, power goes. Brown outs, black outs, everything okay for a bit. It could be all or nothing (I think prepping for the worst is best, first), but if you can afford it, being ready for various levels of SHTF is not a bad thing.

Wed, 12/28/2011 - 08:17 | 2015630 Waterfallsparkles
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You are right I am a she and not a young one.  That is why for me a chain saw is important.  There is no way I would have the strength or stamina to cut wood by hand.

Plus, I live where the electric goes out a lot.  Last winter it went out on a day that was 13 Degrees.  I will tell you that even with layers, coats, gloves and a hat it was freezing.  Felt colder in the house than outside.  Took about an hour or so to get my generator running.  For some reason it just would not start.  I had a lot of the neighbors trying to help me and finally it started.  Tip: Sometimes you have to take the little connection that detects low oil off.  But, be sure to check the oil level first.

I have a fireplace but I also have a pellet stove in the basement which I hook up to the Generator.  It took almost 4 hours before the house even got up to 50 Degrees.

Most people have no idea what it is like without heat, especially when it is 13 Degrees out side.

That is why I have a wood stove and a whole house generator on my Wish list this year.  Being prepaired is not only for a meltdown.  It is also for other emergencies as I well know. 

P.S. The well pump does not work without electricity so you need plenty of bottled water on hand.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 15:04 | 2014272 FrankIvy
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He stole it from Thoreau.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:32 | 2014168 francis_sawyer
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Chops up the wood, gives a good workout, and warms you up!

In a 'survival' situation, that can be a liability... If the outside temperature is too cold, you DO NOT want to expend energy too fast... SWEATING can be a real danger if you need to conserve energy... Expending unnecessary calories (not to mention H2O), must be regulated efficiently...

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:50 | 2014220 fuu
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Proper layering of clothing and using those layers to regulate heat is essential.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:58 | 2014248 francis_sawyer
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@fuu

agree... That's part & parcel... But people also need to understand energy expenditure as it relates to cold... Fabrics are important as well... There have been a lot of high tech microfiber fabrics to hit the market recently, but many of them STILL do not surpass the thermoregulation qualities of finely stretched alpaca wool...

Therefore, in a REAL survival situation... It would be time to find a different use for those expensive cashmere sweaters...

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 15:54 | 2014422 fuu
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Target's G2 line of technical fabrics are cheap and good for layering.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:51 | 2014229 Gully Foyle
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Waterfallsparkles

And what happens when the fuel runs out? People been cutting wood by hand for centuries.


Tue, 12/27/2011 - 15:09 | 2014289 francis_sawyer
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@GF

Waterfallsparkles has also "budgeted in" 10 pounds of copper plating, rivets, silver solder, flux, a benzyne canister blowtorch, a couple of mason jars, a thermometer, flow valve, & 5 gallon paint bucket into his KELTY PACK so he can "distill his own" ethanol to run the chain saw...

He's still going to need an ice making machine, & about 1/8th acre worth of corn kernels, or potato spuds, plus some time before he gets to brewing (that's why I suggested the WAR & PEACE novel)...

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 19:12 | 2014928 Potemkin Villag...
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don't forget the yeast.

LOL

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 21:53 | 2015167 smiler03
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If it's survival of the fittest and you're all armed then why not take out all the unarmed and insufficiently prepared sheeples first. 

You'll put them out of their misery sooner rather than later and get to keep what little resources they had, which is probably 90% fat. They won't come after you in zombie style either seeing as they've already been shot in the head.

MillionDollarBonus knows best :O)

Wed, 12/28/2011 - 08:26 | 2015634 Waterfallsparkles
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You can cut up a whole tree on a half a gallon of fuel.  One 2 and 1 additive is for a gallon of gas.  I also haveand keep 2,  5 gallon containes of gas for the generator, the lawn mower etc.  Plus, you could always syphon gas from your car.

I also have about 3/4 acre of woods behind my house.  Many of the trees have fallen and they would be seasoned and dry.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 15:30 | 2014347 Last_2_Sense
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A chain saw you say? Got some drug dealers needing whacked? http://www.bestgore.com/beheading/chainsaw-beheading-video-sinaloa-cartel-members-decapitated-mexico/

Go ahead you pussies watch this shit, then you'll know just how far we have to fall.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 16:07 | 2014445 Nobody For President
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Bullshit. I come from three generations of Douglas fir gyppo loggers - I would have been the 4th gen, 'ceptin' I went to college - and the first two generations never heard a chainsaw, and heated with wood just fine.

I've heen back in the woods for 40 years now, after a tour in cities, and for the first two years I did just fine without a chainsaw. Have had two chain saws (a small one (14'bar) and a bigger one (24") for many years, [Different brands over the years- I'm partial to Stihl] and love 'em. But I still have a big manual crosscut and a decent bowsaw, plus splitting mauls and double and single bit axes, and could get my firewood ok without chain saw gas if I ever need to, even though I'm an old fart now.

You would be surprised how much downed wood is on a 40 acre parcel of mixed hardwood/conifer, and how fast a good, sharp and well maintained crosscut saw can produce a cord of wood. You would also be surprised how much time you might have available without the internet and TV to couch you... 

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 16:59 | 2014607 KK Tipton
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I heated with wood...used only an ax.....got the t-shirt etc...

Hardass work. And heavy shit to lug around. Now ya need horses ;)

If everybody had compact wood gasifier stoves, you could use small wood or other biomass (grasses etc).
Look up how Jean Pain managed his forest. Small chipped wood can do it all.

I'm working on this as we speak. The 2+2 has not been put together on this topic (yet).

 

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 13:51 | 2014045 FrankIvy
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A 20kg bag of rice can keep you alive for 6 months.  Really?  Perhaps if you're a smallish hobbit or something.

 

By my count, that's about 26,000 calories.

A non-working average male needs about 2,000 calories a day.  That's 13 days.

If you're working or moving a lot, figure 2,500 calories a day and you're down to 10 days.

So your starvation date is - body fat/energy plus 10-13 days.

 

Anonymous - check your math and your LTFS.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:05 | 2014090 Waterfallsparkles
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Most Americans have at least 2 months of fat to keep them alive. 

Plus, have you ever cooked raw rice?  I know that with one cup (8 ounces) of rice I can make a large pot which lasts me 5 days.  Although it is a supplement to the other recipies I make.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 15:27 | 2014338 MachoMan
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When I was actually being a healthy american, I was consuming a cup of brown rice in each of 2 of my 6 meals a day...  a single cup of rice for 5 days lol?  A large pot?

Do you have unsightly, hairy feet and live in the shire? 

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:10 | 2014109 pods
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A 20 kilo bag of (uncooked) rice should have around 70,000 calories, give or take.  

Your point is still made, but surviving is not the same as thriving.

pods

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:27 | 2014157 francis_sawyer
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Waterfallsparkles is an amusing chap trying to be helpful...

I don't discount your MATH skills (in figuring out a gram of carbs is 4 calories), but your REASONING skills need work...

FAT is 9 calories per gram... So the first thing any 'survivalist' needs to know is not to like off of fucking rice & edible weeds, but to find some good FAT... Pig fat is probably the most abundant...

How the fuck does anyone think soldiers ever made it thru wars, (or sailors on the seas) without FAT CALORIES?

Furthermore... You'd better up your ante on calories (from 2,500 to about 4,000+ if you think you're going to need to chop wood to cook your stupid goddamned 20 pound bags of rice)... It wouldn't matter anyway... If you have to CHOP wood, it means it's not really cured to burn very efficiently... Most logs need over a year for that (and that's if they were properly split to begin with)... So if you're talking 2-3 months (while your your little idiot bag of rice is still around), you're mostly talking about scrounging dry sticks...

Fuck it... If it came down to 2-3 months, you're better off with a couple of vats of peanut butter (mostly fat calories)...

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:47 | 2014214 pods
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Go with some pemmican:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pemmican

pods

Wed, 12/28/2011 - 08:36 | 2015644 Waterfallsparkles
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Francis Sawyer,

Really got a chuckle from your post.  Very realistic with a funny twist.  I bet you are a lot of fun to be around.  You have an interesting sense of humor.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 21:43 | 2015153 smiler03
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@ pods

20 kgs of rice contain somewhere between 25000 and 30000 calories. Your point is made but your planning is badly flawed, you may not even survive.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:53 | 2014236 Gully Foyle
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FrankIvy

Once again it is time to share

http://lds.about.com/library/bl/faq/blcalculator.htm

Food Storage Calculator

Use the following calculator to figure the minimum food storage amounts for your family for one year. The amounts are based on the recommendations listed in the LDS Church's Essentials of Home Production and Storage booklet, see (LDS Distribution Center). These are only recommendations. You will need to determine what you should store for your family.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 15:00 | 2014256 francis_sawyer
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Good catch GF...

Salt Pork bitchez!

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:07 | 2014095 GeneMarchbanks
Tue, 12/27/2011 - 16:04 | 2014446 Buckaroo Banzai
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looks like a Marxist screed, written by halfwits

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 13:56 | 2014057 JW n FL
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I was hoping for a little more gun porn out of the document honestly! LULZ!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KATe0emqHwQ&feature=fvwrel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HNSS7tomtw

Shooting Elite Ammunition 5.7x28 (and .45acp) Into Clay

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Opphm-17JfA

5 7x28mm Elite Ammunition ProtecTOR II

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BDpPlL6roI&feature=related

SLOW MOTION 45ACP Federal 230gr Hydra-Shok impacting ballistic gelatin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwAbIdamK2A&feature=related

12 gauge Shotgun Remington 3" Magnum 00 buckshot impacting ballistic gelatin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNBFS3HWoIU

SLOW MOTION 308 Winchester Federal 150gr Fusion JSP impacting ballistic gelatin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jE9xjUVcszs

Extreme Shock 308 168gr BTHP.wmv

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SxlnqZK5Ic

50 BMG vs Ballistic Gel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=xYSGuiko6Gg&NR=1

 

 

 

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:11 | 2014112 JW n FL
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PLEASE! sign this petition and pass it around to EVERYONE YOU KNOW!

In Mercer County, Kentucky, nine year old Chris Baker, an Autistic student, was told by his special education aide to climb inside a bag intended for therapeutic purposes as a punishment to "control his autistic behavior" in mid-December 2011. He was placed in the bag with the drawstring tightened and left in the hallway in the school. When his mother, Sandra Baker, was called to the school to get her son, she demanded that he be removed from the bag right away. The teacher struggled to undo the drawstring, and Chris emerged sweaty and non-communicative. According to the teacher, this had been done several times over the last year, but Sandra didn't know until this latest incident. While she met with state officials on Monday 19 December 2011 before a possible meeting with school officials, there is no guarantee that those meetings will prevent this kind of abuse from happening again -- either to Chris or to other students.

If you think it's wrong to tell an Autistic child to climb inside a bag not intended as an instrument of confinement and tighten it with a drawstring, which could potentially have led to serious injury or death, as punishment, then please sign this petition. This is wrong. This is abuse. It needs to stop.

http://www.change.org/petitions/end-abuse-of-autistic-students-in-mercer-county-kentucky?utm_medium=email&alert_id=fTVYPJTgIK_dDbZvtJQfe&utm_source=action_alert

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 15:35 | 2014363 MachoMan
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Don't sign petitions, hire a good lawyer...  and don't draw public attention to it until your lawyer tells you to...  put the money in a college fund (and a pocket knife).  Hopefully the perpetrators will not be able to hide behind sovereign or qualified immunity.

I promise the school and surrounding schools will implement remedial measures pronto.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 13:58 | 2014062 kralizec
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Heh, that was good, I needed a good chuckle!

Guy Fawkes!

LOL!

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 13:58 | 2014063 FrankIvy
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The thought that they won't "confiscate" bullion and/or make it illegal is improvident.

Of course they will. 

It's got value, you have it, they'll want it. 

Given how the last 20 years have gone, why is this so hard to see?

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 15:58 | 2014434 francis_sawyer
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@FrankIvy

The thought that they won't "confiscate" bullion and/or make it illegal is improvident

Now it's getting a little relative...

Supposedly, they "confiscated" booze during prohibition... Sure didn't mean everyone was DRY for a half generation now, did it (even with "ENFORCERS" on the prowl)...

At minimum, a roll of mercury dimes ought to buy you a couple of "blowjobs" along the way... That's QUALITY OF LIFE to some under those circumstances (unless your name is 'Waterfallsparkles' and value your existence as to how easy it is to stick to your Weight Watchers diet regimen because you're eating plain white rice with no added fat calories & therefore look splendid in a stand-up mirror profile... If you have a couple extra grams in your Kelty Pack, maybe you could carry a Richard Simmons 'Sweatin' to the Oldies' DVD, or Px90...

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 13:58 | 2014067 buzlightening
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It's all 4th reich initiated. All the goons do, the public gets an anonymous warning.  Shutting down of the financial system or extended banking holidaze!  Leave out the important ingredient to survival; guns & ammo.  We freemen don't shot to kill but shoot to survive. 

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 13:58 | 2014068 nhr215
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The average age of "anonymous" is like 12 years old. Why would I ever care what a 12yo thinks. All this information has simply been lifted from survivalist books and websites. Conveniently, and in keeping with their liberal ethos, they leave out they most important survival elment in any social breakdown: arm yourself to the teeth...

 

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 16:22 | 2014501 blu
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They are anonymous, so how do you know anything about them? You are mocking what you cannot pretend to understand. You have thus become a willing tool of the propagandists and you don't even know it.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 13:59 | 2014069 SheepDog-One
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Im pretty much prepared, except for the Pooh Bear bandana.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:11 | 2014113 Dr. Engali
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My bandana has Calvin and Hobbes. Will that do?

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 13:59 | 2014070 Waterfallsparkles
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I have stopped being afraid.  Although, I do have dried beens, lots of rice and instant potatoes.  Mostly because I cook with them all the time and buy them when they are on sale.  And when I see 10 LB of potatoes on sale I buy them, not to stock up but to use them to lower my grocery bill.

I have stopped stocking up on food and am using what I have stocked up. 

Although do have a gas chain saw,  protection, cash on hand, lamp oil, wicks and oil lamps, water purification kits.  Most from the year 2000 when nothing happened.

I do not think anything drastic will happen and if it does I will find a way to survive I am sure.  I am tired of being afraid.  Yet the thing that does reassures me is that we have a close, strong family.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:30 | 2014107 Dr. Engali
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Being prepaired doesn't mean being afraid. There is a big dfference. As a matter of fact it is nice to know that one can feed and protect the family for months and if need be years if the worst should happen. And if it doesn't happen ,that's all good too. I saved money on items I would have bought anyway because I bought in bulk.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 15:19 | 2014312 Clay Hill
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Exactly right, good Dr.

We prep so that we need not know the fear of hunger, or lack of medical attention when needed. Storing wealth in the form of PM's and having a few guns means you can be free from other fears as well. The most important thing to survival is building relationships with like-minded people willing to go in on group projects. Alternate means of water purification, building shelter, tending the sick or injured and half a dozen other skills are essential to any communty. The most valuable asset for your group are the ones who excel at passing those skills on to the young.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:01 | 2014075 Ron Real
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I started to look at the document. Right near the begnning it says that a 20kb bag a rice will keep one alive for six months. It is well known from the many society where people actually do live on rice that about a pound, 500 gms.of dry rice is a normal rice ration. (For example, the Japanese  koku was originally defined as a quantity of rice, historically defined as enough rice to feed one person for one year. A koku of rice weighs about 150 kilograms (23.6 stone or 330 pounds).)

You need 75 kg to last for six months, not 20. I'd suggest that they don't of what they speak.

 

BTW, a koku was the basic unit of money in Japan until the Meiji Restoration.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 15:23 | 2014327 francis_sawyer
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That's more like it... READ MY COMMENTS ABOVE... (Especially when you start to figure that in a crisis situation - now you're WORKING for a living instead of sitting on your lazy ass hacking computer networks whilst jamming your pimply faced piehole with "hotpockets")...

FAT... Add FAT (to the rice)... S-T-R-E-T-C-H your food dollar (or "koku") dontcha know...

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:06 | 2014093 marcusfenix
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I have been suspicious of Anon for a while now and this "guide" really does nothing to alleviate those doubts and misgivings I have regarding who they really are.

I note that much of the information contained herein can be found at the FEMA or CDC websites when planning for a natural disaster.not sure how useful it would be when you're trying to dodge NORCOM and avoid being barbecued by predator drones and microwave weapons.

remember when over this summer the CDC ran that "are you prepared for the zombie apocalypse" add campaign?

well funny that Anon choose to close this guide with "stay together and watch out for zombies"

is that a poke at the CDC, or is it a little inside joke for their friends at Langley? are they laughing at them, or at us? 

 

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 15:07 | 2014282 JohnG
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The zombie posting on the CDC main page was placed there by a disgruntled soon to be former employee.

I know this through my father, who worked there (in Atlanta) for 34 years.  He got it from friends who still do.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:07 | 2014094 Stockmonger
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They forgot the most important tool of all--a towel!

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:10 | 2014106 marcusfenix
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indeed, I already have mine packed in my bug out kit, along with a copy of the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy...

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:25 | 2014148 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Just wish that I could find a nice cup of tea somewhere. I seem to be having tremendous difficulty with my lifestyle.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 16:20 | 2014492 Last_2_Sense
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My towel is a burn out. http://youtu.be/eSEkfqlDilU

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:07 | 2014099 CreditcalMass
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No mention of guns? Poor fools. They'll be slaughtered like the sheep they are.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 15:01 | 2014245 SpaceEcho
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Because the 2nd amendment has no relevance in modern society; it's not like we're fighting off an oppressive gov- oh wait - fuck. Well, having a Guy Fawkes mask is way more important than having a firearm in the event of societal collapse anyway. Guns are bad mmkay...

Hey, these MREs say they're vegan, but are they organic? Are the ingredients local? This is important, because as a locavore I only eat food from nearby sources who practice sustainable farming. 

Does anyone know where I can find free WiFi for my iPad? I couldn't get a connection over at the smoldering hole where Barnes and Noble's used to be...

Guys, we need to use the bandages out of our first aid kits since we ran out of rolling papers, so everyone be extra careful about not cutting yourself or getting hurt or anything like that.

Check out my Bug-Out Messenger Bag!

Wait, did anyone remember to bring a can opener? Anyone?!!?

You're part of the 1% and a tool of the Judeo-Capitalist regime, but can we use your generator for a few hours?

 

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 15:29 | 2014345 Gene Parmesan
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Excellent.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 15:36 | 2014369 centerline
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Made my day.  Thanks.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 16:47 | 2014563 blu
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Why mock someone who is probably on your side of the conflict?

Unless -- you happen to be working for the other side?

That's what it looks like. But it doesn't matter -- maybe you are just bitter. That's fine, we understand, they've made us all bitter so that we'll turn on each other before we turn on them. When the fires are finally lit you can go alone if you want to, but you won't like how it feels. I recommend you find out how to get along with people that are not exactly like you, and then even if you are killed you will have at least died among friends.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 17:26 | 2014683 SpaceEcho
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"Dying among friends" sounds pretty awesome, tell me more

 

"The Anonymous Survival Guide: Come Die Among Friends!™"

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 18:32 | 2014853 blu
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Just sad, is all I can say.

Moving on ...

Wed, 12/28/2011 - 02:36 | 2015433 MsCreant
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Indeed.

Found an article today on why we need both Ron Paul and the OWS movement. 

The gist is that each counter balances the other.

Wed, 12/28/2011 - 03:17 | 2015461 Potemkin Villag...
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The gist is that each counter balances the other.

So do "rocks" & "hard places", so if you find yourself between them, well, you have that going for you...

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:11 | 2014111 AgShaman
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I disagree with the alcohol and drugs portion of their list.

I keep alot of booze stored away....maybe it could make good barter material....maybe not.

Mixed with a little mary jane....it becomes an excellent "pain killer"....and IMO, a much more natural 'high' than the Big-Pharma alternatives. I'd find it much easier to "regulate" and function under this medication....than popping pills.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 15:23 | 2014324 Jayda1850
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Absolutely! If were looking at the complete collapse of civilization, I'll have to burn a jay just to keep my head straight. 

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 17:40 | 2014736 AgShaman
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nice...nice...nice               thumbs up!

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 17:09 | 2014643 TheFourthStooge-ing
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So spoke AgShaman:

I keep alot of booze stored away....maybe it could make good barter material....maybe not.

It definitely will be good for barter, as will tobacco, hand tools, heirloom seeds, ammunition, toilet paper, feminine hygiene products, repair skills, medical and first aid skills, etc.

Mixed with a little mary jane....it becomes an excellent "pain killer"....and IMO, a much more natural 'high' than the Big-Pharma alternatives.

Grain alcohol and/or high-proof neutral spirits (like vodka) are very useful as organic solvents in the production of herbal and other plant-based medicines.

Aside from the obvious benefits that Cannabis provides, the stalks provide fiber and the seeds are nutritious and high in oil content as well.

Don't fear the reefer.  :)

 

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 17:38 | 2014733 AgShaman
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That's good to know....thanks for the info.

I keep cases of vodka....and spiced rum (Sailor Jerry)

I make home-made cherry vodka as well....with Flathead Cherries from northwestern Montana

The Cherry Vodka finishes great alone...or to be used for mixing a drink....and doubles as a good pain elixir as well (joints/arthritis)

Some say it would be good for gout as well....but IDK...and that would never apply to my genetic profile

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:14 | 2014121 Dr. Engali
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They won't survive any revolution without a battery of guns and ammo.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:21 | 2014133 youLilQuantFuker
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Some ZH stories make me as narcoleptic as old Skeeter here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbmbQkX7czo

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:22 | 2014139 k. pablo
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Exactly how many "revolutions" have the teenagers in Anonymous survived?

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 22:11 | 2015182 Rick Masters
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I'm going to go out on a limb and say the same as you. None.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:25 | 2014144 Winston Smith 2009
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For a fairly accurate idea of what may come after a major economic collapse, I highly recommend watching this series:

http://www.amazon.com/Jericho-Complete-Skeet-Ulrich/dp/B001715A92

It was at one time available on Netflix streaming and I spent an entire weekend watching every episode back-to-back because it was like a book I couldn't put down.  Great characters and character development, many plot mysteries, surprises, etc.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:58 | 2014253 AgShaman
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I agree...it was a pretty good show

And delved into something deeper that most humans would not be too quick to admit...

That we are not so far removed from our primal nature and beginnings. In the right set of circumstances...and when survival is key...we would most likely revert to tribal groupings and gangs like "pack" animals.

People are wise to start networking now....in search of like minded neighbors looking to support each other should things take an ugly path. It totally falls within the proper "prepping" and planning category....to remove some questions and guessing from the equation that's often brought about from PPP (Poor Prior Planning) 

I found it especially odd this holiday season...for the "propaganda box" to be bombarding the sheeple with an assortment of apocalyptic movies that had been already released some time ago. At least it seemed like it was more than usual...for this time of year. Wait till the Mayan dynamic starts to draw near next year....I'm guessing they'll take advantage of it and really start to ramp up the "fear" in the serfs with more shows to scare the crap outta the "conditioned"

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 15:35 | 2014366 blu
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We absolutely are pack animals. Tribalism is alive and well, as it should be. The PTB and MSM are actually doing all they can to keep us from talking to each other and instead just passively listening to their own defeatist propaganda.

Alone, we are powerless and doomed. But together and moving in the same direction we are unstoppable and must and will triumph.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 15:46 | 2014399 fuu
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I liked the show and all but using it as a guide for preparedness is essentially silly.

Wed, 12/28/2011 - 09:16 | 2015671 Waterfallsparkles
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My favorite show was The Colony.  I think it was on the Discovery channel. Where they put I think 6 people with nothing but a few supplies in a devistated area in Louisana after the floods.  It was amazing what the people did to survive.  They make fuel from rendering dead pigs.  They make a windmill to generate electricity into a batter bank.  Caught sneaks, alligators and fish to eat.

Really good.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:27 | 2014153 Vergeltung
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for those of us in the US, this is pretty useless information. as mentioned above, the lack of any discussion of self-defense firearm usage discredits is US-application immediately.

childlike, sophmoric, and as already said above, comicbook-ish.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:36 | 2014179 Oztralian
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Interesting post only 4.5 hours after "Readers often ask me to post something hopeful, and I understand why: doom-and-gloom gets tiresome "  

 

The Harold Camping act continues

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:36 | 2014181 VyseLegendaire
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Anomymous are a bunch of trolls.  Moving on...

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:39 | 2014192 sgt_doom
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Swedes clueless, as usual:

“This hack is most definitely not the work of Anonymous,” ...


http://www.thelocal.se/38166/20111227/

 

 

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:50 | 2014225 donethat
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I didn't see gold...what gives?

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:52 | 2014231 split4to1
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this is brilliant , also saw it posted on http://remainanonymous.org/ few days back as well ... keep up the great work ! 

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:52 | 2014233 JR
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“Yet rebellion is in the air. Without bread, Americans will be consoled by circuses for only so long…” --Justin Raimondo

Our Last Christmas in the Old America |Justin Raimondo (excerpts)

Antiwar.com December 25, 2011 -- As the world celebrates the birthday of the Prince of Peace, the Lord of War looms large over the land. The shrikes and talking heads are screeching for Iranian blood, and there are ominous signs in the stars. The war god’s acolytes flood the airwaves with “a complex of vaunting and fear,” as an old prophet once put it, and men of peace are disdained as “weak,” “dangerous,” and “extreme.”

Who will save us from the coming slaughter?

There is no Savior, no man on a white horse or divine sacrificial offering who can stop or appease the gathering demons: they will quaff their chalice of blood, have their pound of flesh, these cannibals of the spirit who demand human sacrifice as the price of propitiation. Blood, honor, “national security,” “world leadership,” the “free world” – these are the words they will invoke, the ritual prayers to the great god Mars that will excuse the thousands killed, tens of thousands maimed – and for what?

For Israel – which must be saved at all costs, even at the price of its very soul…

This may well be our last Christmas in the old America – an America untouched by serious civil turmoil since the era of Lincoln, unbowed by the business cycle since the days of FDR. We are living out the very last hours of the American Century, and all of Mitt Romney’s appeals to nostalgia and belligerent nationalism cannot reconstruct what has been lost. The peerless engine of American economic supremacy has run out of gas, and is sputtering on the false fuel of fiat money.

In the end, we will find what we already knew: that we cannot print out way out of debt – not without destroying our currency, and ourselves, in the process. In the end, the only way out is war – or Empire’s end.

The invocation of a wartime” emergency” is precisely what our rulers require at this particular moment in our history: for them, war would be a blessing. Are prices hitting the roof – has inflation impoverished us all – is it getting nearly impossible to live? Well then, we can blame our “leaders” or we can blame some Foreign Devil? Which story will the “mainstream” media be peddling – and on whose behalf? To pose the question is to answer it. …

We will learn too late there are no exceptions to the natural laws of morality and economics: that wars of conquest invite “blowback” and that bankrupt empires don’t last long.

It’s your last Christmas in the old, prosperous, untouched America – a benevolent land of plenty, where opportunity was limited only by ambition and the knowledge of tyranny and privation was second-and -third hand. So please, by all means make it a memorable one.

http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2011/12/25/our-last-christmas-in-the-old-america/

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 15:07 | 2014235 Yardfarmer
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these anemic chicken shit faggots from Anonymous will probably last about two days in any tactical situation. the sneaky little keyboard wankers are pretty good at weaseling their way through cyber peep holes but when TSHTF these spineless exhibitionist parasites better take their pasty white bony asses to the darkest hole they can find and stay there indefinitely if they want to prolong their useless existences for any length of time. their distaste for self defense and firearms will undoubtedly guarantee them catamite status or hopefully generally painless extermination in the ridiculously melodramatic scenario they have so ludicrously concocted. i'm nauseated by such pretentious poseurs and hopelessly co-opted imbeciles. and btw the Amerikan citizenry is congenitally and hopelessly incapable of any "revolution". Hypnotized and veal like lemmings fixated on bubble vision will offer nothing but chaotic sporadic outbreaks of senseless violence mostly inflicted against themselves or their own families until they're obligingly carted off to the nearest sports stadium or FEMA camp.

 

Wed, 12/28/2011 - 02:26 | 2015427 Vic Vinegar
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So are you watching Whitney or not?

http://www.nbc.com/whitney/

Wed, 12/28/2011 - 07:52 | 2015608 madbomber
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robot genius.   cant  agree with your assessment.  

congenitally

revolutions go in a circle and are therefore repeating.  

however..    

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjzhncXDYFE&feature=related

veal like lemmings fixated on bubble vision?   who is paying you?

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:54 | 2014238 yogibear
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The US has many FEMA sites setup to haul off dissidents and store them there. Just like Stalin made many of those that were against his policies dissappear in the late night. Wall Street contributes a lot to the police to ensure their in control.

The reason for the internet switch (passed) and other restrictions is for the storm troppers to come down hard on the masses when the SHTF!

 

 

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:55 | 2014240 non_anon
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!Viva la Revolución! !Bishes!

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 15:03 | 2014262 Lester
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What is interesting is the confidence the Congress Members have shown in voting the NDAA with its Constitutional Betrayal. Like the confidence of John Corzine and the the MF Global Swindle.

It's as if they all know there will be no repercussions for their Treachery, because there will be no election and no court to decide punishment...

There is tons of disinfo going around about "survival". Saw that idiot JW Rawles who should know better espousing all the solar crap he'd done and how they had to buy a Staber washing machine, because others wouldn't run. We used our Maytag washer and propane dryer just fine with our Trace Eng 2024 stacked inverter. Typical, throw money at a non-problem solution from that a-hole, Rawles. Like his old scam of selling pre 1900 rifles to those worried about ATF yellow forms at premium prices. Pretty sad to see so many readily take dumb-assed advice just because it is sold smoothly to them.

Gimme a Stihl chainsaw over an axe; although we have axes. A pint of fuel mix will down lots of trees making barriers or firewood next season. Nothing like seasoned hardwood.

What about the Agent Orange defoliation of crops underway in the US? Google it... Got your ton or two of food set aside already? Anyone else at family holiday get-togethers discussing the peril we are in? Time to work a plan with your blood-kin and circle the wagons....

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 23:02 | 2015240 Socratic Dog
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Rawles an idiot?  But... he's the one I have to thank for teaching me that the biggest threats to my life in a collapse situation will be... commies and bikers.

No shit.  Commies and bikers.  I'm just quaking in my boots.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 15:28 | 2014279 freakscene
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A basis for any survivalist strategy contains some sort of stockpiling of ammunition, and cash. I dedicated the last two years to saving discretionary money in order to have roughly 6 months of known expenses saved in currency on hand. I hope to complete this before 2012 is over. This excludes my silver and gold bullion stash which i also continue to expand. Also, no mention any sort of self defense. While removing oneself from situations where the potential exists is good advice, let's be honest - thats not realistic considering the topic which is survival during revolution. Hell, just look at what the animals did to each other this weekend when new Air Jordans were put on the market. How much more animal-like will their behavior get when there is no government providing them checks to buy those shoes?

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 23:01 | 2015239 Tuco Benedicto ...
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Rather than wearing some kind of colored scarf, how about putting a bulls eye on your shirt instead.  Duh!  "Please shoot me I am an unarmed peasant!"

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 15:09 | 2014287 indio007
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Anonymous has denied performing this hack.

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Tue, 12/27/2011 - 15:15 | 2014301 frieswiththat
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Does this mean my New England mint national park $2.00 bills arent gonna be worth shit? FUCK what to do now...better start investing in that .9999 Buffalo Gold Nickel LMAO!!!!!

Wed, 12/28/2011 - 03:25 | 2015463 Potemkin Villag...
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LOL - That's "4 9's" bitchez!

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