Presenting The Broke Bureaucrat Babel Fish: The Ten Most Misunderstood Euro Phrases Translated Into Americanish

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Thu, 09/29/2011 - 11:11 | 1721967 GeneMarchbanks
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No consequences though. So until there actually is retaliation(real, not occupy WS), on either continent, you can bet the same continues on. Endless bureaucracy suffocates all of humanity.

Thu, 09/29/2011 - 11:34 | 1722049 Cynical Sidney
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Take what you can, give nothing back!

up is down, down is up

 

arrrrr

Thu, 09/29/2011 - 14:04 | 1722744 Hugh_Jorgan
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7. TORRP: The much-awaited European version of TARP. Abbreviation derived from the second letter of each of the following countries’ names: Italy, Portugal, Ireland, Greece and Spain."

He forgot to add this: "Not to be confused with "torpor" which is often used to describe the state of the (post TARP) US economy."

 

Thu, 09/29/2011 - 11:39 | 1722069 MillionDollarBonus_
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In order to help recapitalise banks, the ECB would be wise to ease collateral requirements. One idea would be for the ECB offer loans with existing debt instruments as collateral. That way banks can borrow more which will help with recapitalization, and governments can pledge their bonds as collateral to borrow even more in order to pay off earlier creditors. The net effect is that struggling banks receive critical bond payments, and governments are able to meet their obligations. Its a win-win for everyone.

Thu, 09/29/2011 - 11:44 | 1722087 Cynical Sidney
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vote down this foo please. million dollar bonus == timothy geithner's new social media director

yeah levereging the eurotarp is a win win situation alright; would work great for germans no?

end the fiat enslavement or the youth will revolt

Thu, 09/29/2011 - 11:55 | 1722107 MillionDollarBonus_
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Many German banks are heavily exposed to Greek debt. Not only that, but a Greek default could trigger a series of defaults throughout Europe, which would be catastrophic for their balance sheets. The German people are smart - they know that their banks are simply TOO BIG TO FAIL. Germans were wise enough to elect economically literate politicians who understand the implications of a Greek default, and courageously voted for further investment in the EFSF, despite the relentless attacks by nasty right-wing libertarians.

Thu, 09/29/2011 - 12:04 | 1722172 Ghordius
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"economically literate politicians" ??? I beg to differ.

The German Government still sells the story that it's all "in order to save the EUR" - if they would sell it as "in order to save the big banks" they would have a completely different situation.

Courage? Perhaps. Foolishness in thinking they can help the Greeks? Lots.

I listened to the parliamentary debate and for the first time I had to agree with the German Neo-Communists - this hurts...

 

Thu, 09/29/2011 - 12:16 | 1722219 RemiG2010
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I haven't watched the debate, but Merkel, the rest of the "economically literate politicians" in Buntestag should know one thing. If Greece and the rest of the PIIGS go down, German new Deutchmark will be so strong, that it will kill economy in just few years and then we're all going back to the first half of last century!

Thu, 09/29/2011 - 12:31 | 1722252 Ghordius
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I know this might sound outlandish:

1) sovereign defaults don't necessarily change the currency - and most of the times don't

2) Germany is the only country which could "kill" the EUR - they won't, not yet

3) this meme of "devalue the currency, quick, or the economy tanks" is as true as "open the credit spigots, quick, or the economy tanks" - it does not last - it's all temporary.

Wait until all currencies will have to fight the same battle uphill instead of downhill - read about how Soros made a fortune by shorting the British Pound, for example. And try to remember that in those days 10 bn bucks were a gigantic amount of money. Nowadays, it would be idiotic because all currencies are fightiing to go down.

Thu, 09/29/2011 - 12:32 | 1722276 RemiG2010
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1) in case of Euro one does. It is called Italy! And that equals game over for European currency, whether Germans like it or not.

Thu, 09/29/2011 - 13:01 | 1722424 Vergeltung
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"and then we're all going back to the first half of last century!"

 

well, let's get it done right this time.

Thu, 09/29/2011 - 15:30 | 1723324 derDeutsche
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jawohl, dieses mal werden wir gewinnen!

 

 

Thu, 09/29/2011 - 12:09 | 1722190 Cynical Sidney
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yeah real smart. leverage eurotarp keep uping the ante, kick it down the road until it collapases and defaults, have the next generation pay for them. what's the youth unemployment rate in eurozone? what about the US? what's the extent of economic stratification in the US? what you do plan to do with the 'reserve army of labour' created?

2b2f are called that because they are too big to be saved. like i said earlier up is down, down is up :)

call me what you will; but your policies take the world toward default, revolution and war, i'm trying to avert disaster

Thu, 09/29/2011 - 12:13 | 1722205 Ghordius
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"your policies take the world toward default"

wait a moment, you can't have it both ways - the ECB easing he proposes means heading towards inflation/stagflation, not deflations & defaults

and he has a cool avatar ;-)

Thu, 09/29/2011 - 12:33 | 1722270 Cynical Sidney
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yes you can have it both ways; like bisexuals and mixflation. ecb easing bastardizes the euro, and also means higher unemployment and decreased purchasing power.

"sovereign defaults don't necessarily change the currency - and most of the times don't" u are despicable.

Thu, 09/29/2011 - 12:36 | 1722294 Ghordius
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Why despicable? It's about history. If a country defaults, it's about the bonds, not the FX. I know it's not part of the "common theme" in the current blogs, still, look it up.

Thu, 09/29/2011 - 12:08 | 1722193 Alea Iactaest
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Did you forget to put /s at the end of your post?

Thu, 09/29/2011 - 13:13 | 1722492 Toolshed
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It amazes me how so many people take MDB's comments seriously. It is obviously satirical baiting. And well done I must say!

Thu, 09/29/2011 - 16:19 | 1723558 mkkby
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Germany is lined up to pay everyone else's bills.  When their society crashes we'll see another dictator rise to power.  Then they'll raise a military to enact revenge.  Them's your consequences.  History repeats.

Thu, 09/29/2011 - 11:08 | 1721968 IAmNotMark
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Sorry Tyler...once I've read the first four words, all I can think about is oral sex.  The rest of the article just didn't fit.

Oh, wait....cunning linguists...  never mind...

Thu, 09/29/2011 - 11:12 | 1721987 Alex Kintner
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It was a typo. Should read "Cunning Lickquist".

Thu, 09/29/2011 - 11:15 | 1721999 gojam
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A Cunning Stunt !

Thu, 09/29/2011 - 11:14 | 1721969 gojam
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11) Democracy = Ignoring the people and moving greater and greater power away from them

Usage - Thank God there are enough deluded people in the world who think that living in a Democracy gives them a say in how their country is run.

Thu, 09/29/2011 - 11:14 | 1721995 GeneMarchbanks
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Democracy and "The People" is a myth. You can call it a mobocracy, I suggest The Revolt of the Masses by Ortega Y Gassett.

Thu, 09/29/2011 - 11:25 | 1722035 johnQpublic
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democracy:

a series of votes held by the top tenth of one percent, verifying that right to rule and or steal in a controlled and beneficial manner to that same top tenth of one percent

 

see also:fascism,oligarchy,goldman sachs

Thu, 09/29/2011 - 11:26 | 1722038 johnQpublic
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firewall: gasoline (at 9 bucks a gallon) soaked paper,fiat currency, or bonds

Thu, 09/29/2011 - 11:40 | 1722073 SheepDog-One
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Firebomb: Wine bottle filled with gasoline, old sock or fiat paper currency stuffed in neck for fuze.

Thu, 09/29/2011 - 16:21 | 1723571 mkkby
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Firewall: the outside brick edifice of a bank branch or main office.  There, fixed it for ya.

Thu, 09/29/2011 - 11:47 | 1722100 RemiG2010
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"The People" or "The people"? Now, explain us the difference taking under consideration Constitution.

Thu, 09/29/2011 - 11:48 | 1722089 SheepDog-One
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Democracy: Your choice of either 2 pre-selected elite bankster hand picked dictators.

Thu, 09/29/2011 - 12:41 | 1722330 Nascent_Variable
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12) Fiat Currency:  The means by which the central banking cartel does to countries what Silvio Burlusconi does to 16 year old prostitutes behind closed doors.

Thu, 09/29/2011 - 11:12 | 1721981 HedgeAccordingly
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its all lies.. and we know the answer .. it took a while for NFLX to pan out.. the euro crisis will.. 

speaking of nflx.. down 11 percent today.. 'shhhh' 

http://www.hedgeaccording.ly/2011/09/netflix-monthly-chart-update-nflx.html

Thu, 09/29/2011 - 11:35 | 1722062 I am a Man I am...
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I bet whitney tilson is so pissed at himself.  I would be.  I'd feel like a weak little girl with little to no conviction.

Thu, 09/29/2011 - 12:02 | 1722171 FMR Bankster
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If he would have scaled it right he'd still be in the trade.

Thu, 09/29/2011 - 11:41 | 1722085 SheepDog-One
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Another golden oldie RoboTrader favorite stock to brag about after every close goes up in smoke.

Thu, 09/29/2011 - 11:12 | 1721983 Ghordius
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I like the "Everything is under control" part - soothing...

SUDDEN DEBT, WHERE ARE YOU ???

Thu, 09/29/2011 - 11:14 | 1721996 buzzsaw99
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CDO = criminal demon organization.

Thu, 09/29/2011 - 11:18 | 1722005 nah
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EURO-TO-ENGLISH BITCHEZ

Thu, 09/29/2011 - 11:19 | 1722012 spanish inquisition
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First off alll you hot and bothered dislexic ladies, calm down and read slowly...cunning linguists

Next #3,,, He is advising creating a firewall by throwing paper money at it?

Thu, 09/29/2011 - 13:38 | 1722617 Oh regional Indian
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Hah. yep. It sure sounds like he wants them to make a moving firewall, with putty.

ORI

Thu, 09/29/2011 - 11:20 | 1722016 wang (not verified)
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nein=yes

 

Thu, 09/29/2011 - 11:23 | 1722027 Kali
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And while everyone is focused on Europe, the house approves another stop gap funding bill that will only last til Nov.18 in US.  Almost two years and this idiot Congress STILL has not come up with a budget.  Will OB's term be the first where no budget was ever passed?

I have a new barometer of the economy - the Rest Stop Index.  Maybe that's where the drop in unemployment came from.  Now instead of one pathetic person at the rest stop claiming no food, gas, $$, there are multiple panhandlers.  And they look like they have moved in there too. 

Thu, 09/29/2011 - 12:13 | 1722204 Nobody For President
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It's called "Hooverville".

Thu, 09/29/2011 - 11:27 | 1722031 THE DORK OF CORK
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Funny stuff - poor Europe has been royally fucked by Hayeks very strange denationalisation of money beliefs - civil servents are payed to do nothing now as they can not acheive anthing - its worse then a waste - its a scam. 

The old European civil service was expensive but they acheived much - now we have a cheap civil service and expensive bank advisors and they achieve nothing.

Can we please go back to the stagflation of the 70s - at least it was better fun then this devastating euro blandness.

Thu, 09/29/2011 - 11:32 | 1722045 Catullus
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Funny stuff. You associate the euro with Hayek's denationalization of money.

Thu, 09/29/2011 - 11:48 | 1722090 THE DORK OF CORK
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Yes - it was his baby - he was a monetory technocrat - he was not big into the freedom thingy or politics.

Thu, 09/29/2011 - 11:51 | 1722112 NotApplicable
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Citation?

Thu, 09/29/2011 - 12:03 | 1722179 THE DORK OF CORK
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Read the denationalisation of money and get back to me - he wanted to create a system of money divorced or at least partially seperate from the state  - thats the euro baby.

Politics has no function when you have no money power - however that does not mean the power disappears - it flows.

Because both Friedman & Hayek seeked to reduce the State Money supply , private credit filled the vaccum - that is why the Euro area has a higher leverage them the US , the ECB are using Gold as a weapon of debt peonage , in the euro system the Gold price should be at least the M1 - this artifical high value of currency forces goverments to sell assets on the cheap.

The lack of understanding of power dynamics if it really is a lack of understanding among at least some of the Austrian school is childish in the extreme.

 

 

 

Thu, 09/29/2011 - 12:29 | 1722231 NotApplicable
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While I most certainly will read the entire book, the preface provides all the refutation I need. (emphasis mine)

It has long been a common belief among economists since the classical thinkers of the 18th century that one of the most important functions of government was to create a monetary mechanism and to issue money. The debates among economists have been on how far governments have performed this function efficiently and on the means of increasing or decreasing the power of government over the supply of money. But the general assumption has been that government had to control monetary policy and that each country had to have its own structure of monetary units. This assumption is now questioned by Professor F. A. Hayek. He goes much more fully into the 'somewhat startling' departure from the classical assumption which he touched on in Choice in Currency, Occasional Paper No. 48, published in February 1976. Even this short expansion of the theme indicates insights into the nature of money and its control for a wide range of readers: they should stimulate the student and suggest precepts for politicians. In effect, Professor Hayek is arguing that money is no different from other commodities and that it would be better supplied by competition between private issuers than by a monopoly of government.

This in no way describes the Euro. To insist that it does is to be disingenuous. Like I said below, denationalized is not equal to internationalized. The Euro is a creature of government, not of the free market.

Thu, 09/29/2011 - 12:43 | 1722338 THE DORK OF CORK
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Again extreme Austrians have no real concept of power and how it flows - when goverment issuance became junior to "competition" the power shifted.

Anyway how can you have competition in the provision of credit - thats crazy - credit is the  production of private debt - banks do not need deposits to create credit but they create unsustainable deposits when they lend.

When the sov country model was changed by the ECBs & Hayeks competition for money -  for example when Bank of Scotland moved into the Irish marketplace the old Irish sov banks had to produce more credit to "compete".

The entire monetarists school ignores for the most part the role of credit and concentrates on reducing the money supply - when this happened it the 80s wages were cut but banks created credit to maintain demand and profits but with negative real wealth generation.

Anyway theres nothing wrong with central planning when its done right , just as theres nothing wrong with providing a private loan if its the right investment.

Even in weak states such as Spain the best investments have been centrally planned while private credit investments have been a disaster - in states such as Ireland with no net fiscal debt during the good years the malinvestment has been off all known scales.

Meanwhile at least Spain built such things as the Madrid to Barcelona high speed train line which has wiped short haul airline routes out - without intense central planning that would never happen.

 

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