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Tue, 03/20/2012 - 22:52 | 2275668 Clashfan
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Now that I'm finally a member, I can tell you that I have been enjoying your posts for a long time, ma'am.

 

 

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 18:25 | 2275040 blunderdog
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I dunno, when it gets that complex, I'd say it's just imaginary.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 18:50 | 2275118 Clycntct
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Math is Art.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 21:55 | 2275565 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Flakmeister said:

Well as long as the argument isn't a positive Real number....

Complex would actually work.... e^(i x)

Unfortunately, we might be on a e^(-x^2) path....

The fiat currencies of the world are on a race to

e^([pi]i) + 1

 

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 17:54 | 2274946 dwdollar
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Yep. Exponential growth in population is required to absorb exponential growth of the money supply.

Let's play a game of chicken. Which one of these will swerve (breakdown) first?

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 18:02 | 2274979 HelluvaEngineer
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Apparently you haven't seen the chart on AAPL

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 17:14 | 2274820 Agent P
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Avoiding Armageddon:

"Honey, it looks like there's armageddon in the road up ahead.  What should I do?"

"Just go around it."

 

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 17:15 | 2274826 yogibear
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It's rally time and QE to infinity!!! Bernanke and the Federal Reserve have an infinite balance sheet. They can buy all the US debt and make it disappear.

But then again you'll just be paying an outrageous amount gal for a gallon of gasoline and commodities will be unaffordable for so many. It is what it is. Both the government have buried us so deep there will be no way to get out.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 19:22 | 2275215 hamurobby
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We will all need some serious raises..

 

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 17:16 | 2274828 Quantitative_Ap...
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Can we just call it the high costs of "the war on Terra"?

 

Reps and Dems are like Thelma and Louise....

We are making a run for that canyon and by god we're gonna make it to the other side!

 

 

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 17:45 | 2274919 CrashisOptimistic
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The Democrats had complete and overwhelming control of Congress and the White House from 2009 to 2011.  If they thought they needed a tax increase, THEY COULD HAVE PASSED IT.

The Tea Party in a major earthquake of sentiment change undid about a 40 seat Democrat majority in the House and provided the GOP an equivalent lead presently enjoyed.  With this new power, and bear in mind the Tea Party ran on ONE ISSUE AND ONLY ONE ISSUE, CUT SPENDING, we have this year in FY2012 a level of spending that is down $4 lousy billion dollars from the baseline projection.  That's out of  3.6 FUCKING TRILLION DOLLARS!  The Tea Party's upheaval accomplished 4 billion off 3.6 trillion.  Total bullshit.

Now we have Sequester looming, as well as more cuts from the initial 900 billion of the celing deal that added the sequester, scheduled for 1 January.  Who thinks they won't be shut off?  There is no way in hell the sequester cuts plus the FY2013 portion of the 900B from the ceiling deal will actually take place.  And lets keep in mind the Tea Party let the payroll tax cut expiration get extended.

THE BASTARDS WILL NOT CUT SPENDING.  AND THEY WON'T RAISE TAXES.

This whole thing is going to disintegrate.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 17:59 | 2274968 CH1
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Red Party, Blue Party, who the hell still cares. 

Giving up politics is like giving up drugs.

Just walk away.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 22:00 | 2275578 TheFourthStooge-ing
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At least weed gets you high.

 

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 19:00 | 2275143 Doubleguns
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uhmmmm, Hey crash, not the tea party, the republicrate party. Please do not even consider the two in the same sentance. Many many republicrates claim to be associated with the tea party for election purposes (lies) only. After that their true colors return, and damn if it aint the same colors as the demicans. The particular color shade I believe is called "spend".

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 19:29 | 2275242 blunderdog
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No kidding, everyone knows there's no such thing as the "Tea Party."

That's just a story to scare the kids.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 19:58 | 2275300 Widowmaker
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Way too late, champ.  "It's" already long gone.   Just cause someone shuts off the hose doesn't mean all the liquid disappears.

Pressure is already long gone with fat bonuses handed out before it was over.

FUCK THE POOR!

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 22:04 | 2275587 TheFourthStooge-ing
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CrashisOptimistic said:

The Democrats had complete and overwhelming control of Congress and the White House from 2009 to 2011.  If they thought they needed a tax increase, THEY COULD HAVE PASSED IT.

The War Party has had complete control of the House, Senate, and White House longer than anyone currently alive has existed. Anything that the Party wants passed gets passed.

 

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 17:16 | 2274830 dbomb12
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And they are not done yet

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 17:17 | 2274833 JJ McApe
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Thank you very much for this screenshot. *lol*

This whole story is beyond ridiculous. And please don't tell me that NOT everything is only running on hot air (borrowed money).

We will see.... inflation has to hit reality at some point IMO.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 17:17 | 2274834 Greater Fool
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Looks like we will need a bigger shovel soon.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 17:51 | 2274941 Greater Fool
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Time to upgrade.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 18:59 | 2275142 MsCreant
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"Terra"fying

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 17:18 | 2274838 TMT
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Just in case that chart didn't make you throw up, take a look at this ...

http://economy.money.cnn.com/2012/03/20/professor-bernanke-rails-on-gold-standard-6/?iid=Lead

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 18:53 | 2275123 Troll Magnet
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oh, that's rich.  

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 19:02 | 2275151 MsCreant
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There is not enough gold, Mr. Bernanke dipstick, unless you let the price go up. He is not this stupid.

But you know what?

They are scared...scared of Gold!!!!

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 01:14 | 2275887 Money 4 Nothing
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Their not scared of Gold, their scared of the slaves becoming empowered. The last thing they need right now is the unwashed using their own weapons against them. Price will keep tumbeling till the lights go out IMHO.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 19:39 | 2275262 hamurobby
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Gold was the reason the depression lasted so long, they could not print gold! What Benny didnt mention was the cause of the depression, the massive expansion and then contraction of credit by his beloved federal reserve.You know, the third national bank that Thomas Jefferson warned us about, and yet is still around after 99 years. Its time for some change we can believe in...

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 20:26 | 2275354 Miss Expectations
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Wow...the Bernank looks terrible.  Would like to see an '07 and Current photo of him added to the High Cost of Armageddon Avoidance Chart.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 17:22 | 2274843 Dermasolarapate...
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Interesting that gold rose 236% (since 2007 from $700 an ounce to $1652) ...same amount as the Fed Balance sheet expansion.

Goldbugs may be right after all!?

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 17:22 | 2274849 BudFox2012
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Avoid Armegeddon?  Hell, I'm hoping it comes.  I've got my V8 interceptor all waxed up and ready to go in the garage.  I've got 200 cases of dinkie dee dog food, a mut for a companion, some football shoulder pads, and a bunch of trinkets to trade in Barter Town.  Mad Max, here I come! 

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 17:37 | 2274890 optimator
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Cigarette and booze economy after the Banksters are done with us all.  Remember, POWs gave up their meager rations to trade them for cigarettes.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 23:40 | 2275759 DOT
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I'm stocking up on luxury goods; tooth floss and soap for example. 

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 18:24 | 2275039 dick cheneys ghost
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Bud Fox is right.....we need a dose of Armegeddon.....clean out the underbrush.....start over with a clean slate, no CBank

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 04:35 | 2276041 kookaburralaugh
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Would that be a Jensen Interceptor? Circa 1973 with the Chrysler 6.7 liter V8? Man - that car drinks more than I do...

Won't be enough gas left in the States for you to go Mad Max!

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 17:26 | 2274864 slewie the pi-rat
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yes, we have no armageddon

we have no armageddon, today

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 17:51 | 2274936 fuu
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How much for that armageddon in the window?

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 19:22 | 2275197 MsCreant
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Bernanke cakes, Bernanke cakes,

Bankers' man,

Make Armageddon,

As fast as you can.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 22:35 | 2275634 fuu
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Roll it, print it, mark it with a B.

Put it on the balance sheet for the muppets and me.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 22:58 | 2275677 NumberNone
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Bernanke's bridge is falling down, falling down, falling down...

Bernanke's bridge is falling down...

Arm-a-geddon.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 23:26 | 2275738 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Ring around the toilet,

Bernanke's going to spoil it.

Flush it, flush it,

the dollar goes down.

 

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 02:21 | 2275966 akak
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My war lies have a first name

It's O-S-A-M-A

My peace lies have a second name

It's O-B-A-M-A

Oh I love to swallow them every day

"How can you hold it down?" you say?

'Cuz Bammy and Congress have a way

with B-O-L-O-G-N-A.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 07:04 | 2276141 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Oscar Mayer Amschel Rothschild

 

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 17:31 | 2274876 Towhog
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Has anybody out there set up a model to project where our economy would be if these guys who are not that smart had not decided to mimick a bloated economy with printed fiat, capital destruction and malinvestment?????

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 17:40 | 2274901 optimator
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Oh, but they are smart, pulling off this, the greatest heist in history.  The only ones that did better were the ones that converted their marks to dollars in 1922 and sent them out of the country.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 17:37 | 2274891 Flakmeister
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It was all about relying on pulled forward demand....

Hey, BAU might have had another 25 years to run...

Actually, the 70's oil shock bought 20 years (look that rate of growth in oil up to 73) We sucessfully pissed that 20 years away....

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 17:38 | 2274895 AnarchoCapitalist
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The chart is mislabled; it is the cost of having a government that is subservient to the banks rather than the people.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 17:38 | 2274896 Jash
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I'm betting there's going to be a few container ship loads of cash trying to land on a small pile of precious metals when this baby goes bang.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 17:40 | 2274899 lolmao500
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You can't bring money to hell or Gitmo.

All you have in the end is your soul.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 20:09 | 2275328 Temporalist
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If you push high enough, your end can hold various other things than just your soul. But if that's where you put yours...

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 17:40 | 2274900 ptoemmes
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The cost/act of avoiding Armegeddon will result in Armegeddon.

Talk - no sing - about a rock and a hard place: ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyTLuith1Qs

Take note of the lyrics.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 17:40 | 2274903 Catullus
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ah.  2007.  Before the Machines took over.

 

March 2007: I can distinctly remember reading Barron's while riding the bus on the week after Lehman injected money into their 2 high yield bonds funds thinking "how is throwing money into the fund going to solve anything?" Good times. Half decade of no returns on equities. 

Everything your broker tells you is bullshit.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 17:44 | 2274915 Normalcy Bias
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The solution is simple: conjure up another eleventy trillion dollars out of thin air, and then S&P 500 will surely be at break-even!

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 18:10 | 2275003 Winston Churchill
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The village magician he was there,

doing his favourit trick,

Lilfting his foreskin over his head,

and disappeareing down his prick.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 17:44 | 2274916 Dingleberry
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Print, baby, print!!

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 17:48 | 2274926 fallst
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Hey Fuck You with the Bush's Fault , Please Fuck Yourself.

 

That Moron should never have been elected. I will Pound You, Faggot.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 00:14 | 2275807 akak
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Was that directed at me, or your usual audience of the pigeons in the park?

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 17:48 | 2274930 MunX
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Safe haven.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 17:49 | 2274931 blunderdog
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It's a fine chart, but the "budget deficit" comparison deserves clarification. 

Obviously, if you don't put the costs of waging war in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan in the budget, the "budget deficit" would be much lower.  That's why the '07 number is so low.

More important than the "budget deficit" is the "Federal deficit," which for the past decade was averaging in the area of $7-800B.

(This is important, because if you don't pay attention, they'll start pulling stuff off the budget again and publishing numbers showing the budget deficit decreasing dramatically, and everyone who was focused on that statistic will have to deal with "gotcha!" bullshit.)

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 17:53 | 2274934 Dr. Engali
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I'm sure that all the poor people who are struggling to make ends meet are eternally grateful that the system was saved. The wealth effect created must have them feeling better all the time. I'm sure the extra cost of food and fuel is well worth bailing out a few billionaires to them.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 19:06 | 2275161 lizzy36
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Exactly.

Everytime i hear a narrative about Bernanke and Geithner saving the system, i want to hurt somebody.

They were the ones that caused the system to break down to begin with. And as it was apparent is was breaking down in 2006/2007 they did NOTHING to repair it. As a consequence millions of people lost jobs and homes, and except for the top 20% the citizens of the US have barely started to recover.

Someday the PTSD of the bottom 50% is going to become very tangiable.

But hey Geithner and Bernanke sure did one Heckva job.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 19:44 | 2275274 blunderdog
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     They were the ones that caused the system to break down to begin with. And as it was apparent is was breaking down in 2006/2007 they did NOTHING to repair it.

Bullshit.  If you're the big Fed fan you sound like, the time for "intervention" would've been back in 2002 before the liar's loans and "Flip this House!" were getting into the spotlight.  Back when the head "liberal" economist was writing about how the key to saving the world was to transition the tech-bubble into the real-estate market.  Bernanke wasn't Fed chairman back then, it was Greenspan.

By 2006, when it was obvious to anyone who cared (and even being realized by the dimmer bulbs), it was FAR too late for the CB to do anything.  The damage had already been done--if anything went wrong, the banks were broke and they knew it.

What do you think the should Fed have done in 2006 that would've helped?  Raise rates?  Way too late to prevent all the bad mortgages from failing, or MERS from clouding the title system.  Federal debt had already ballooned out of control--higher rates would've driven up the expense of rolling that mountain of debt.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 22:54 | 2275672 Clashfan
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Lizzie, didn't the Greenspan put have a bit to do with this mess, too? And the repeal of Glass-Steagall?

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 23:33 | 2275750 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Bernanke, Greenspan, LTCM, the repeal of Glass-Steagall, QEx, TARP, TWIST, MERS, MF Global, et al., are just different turds in the same burning bag of crap that's been left at our front door.

 

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 17:50 | 2274935 Bam_Man
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They forgot to include "Food Stamp Participation". That's another doozy.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 17:52 | 2274943 yogibear
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Low balance on the Federal Reserves's  balance sheet. It's shopping time again, unlimited balance sheet Washington!! 

China and the Saudi's will just keep accepting decling in value treasuries.

That Saudi prince kept pouring money into a declining Citibank. See, there are  suckers worldwide.  Plenty more around.

 

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 18:07 | 2274947 Clashfan
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A lot of people won't get no justice tonight.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ga4wASz39Fc

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 17:58 | 2274962 JohnKozac
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Indirect Bidders dropping off. In 2010 46% of the 10 yr notes were bought by Indirect Bidders:

http://www.treasurydirect.gov/instit/annceresult/press/preanre/2010/R_20...

 

Now, only 38% of the 10 yr notes bought by Indirect Bidders:

http://www.treasurydirect.gov/instit/annceresult/press/preanre/2012/R_20...

Anyone know what this means?

Who are the "Indirect Bidders?"

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 22:22 | 2275130 Money 4 Nothing
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Certain banks that The Fed's funnel money to then have them buy Bonds to be recycled along with other controlled agencies. I won't list them because you will shit your pants.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 23:35 | 2275755 TheFourthStooge-ing
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It's a daisy chain of clusterfuckery.

 

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 18:01 | 2274976 bankrun
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An astounding 5 years it has been...

Did I say "astounding?" I meant asspounding.

An asspounding 5 years it has been.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 18:04 | 2274984 Clifhanger
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Yo FALLST

It was Bush's fault, of course it was!  It would never be Osama's fault, right?

 

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 18:29 | 2275056 Jendrzejczyk
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Two cheeks, same ass.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 18:55 | 2275122 akak
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Exact same product from that ass, as well.

Every time I have been in a voting booth, I have imagined the two listed options for each seat as "With corn flecks, or with kiwifruit seeds?"

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 20:42 | 2275395 Jendrzejczyk
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Imagine the out-product of wolf-nipple chips.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 21:21 | 2275454 akak
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I used to enjoy (in a mild, perverse sort of way) how my old wolf's digestive system, after every time he ate a hare or some other small animal, used to manage to spin the hair within his turds into the most perfectly twisted and symmetrical patterns.

(Should I have admitted that?)

But even he had the good grace to not shit on the side of the road.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 21:27 | 2275507 Jendrzejczyk
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(Laughing and all blobbed up)

No coherent response possible.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 21:40 | 2275529 Jendrzejczyk
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Used to have a dog that ate any cash left out. We were pissed the first time, but it always came out the other end intact.

Once through the washing machine and we considered the "Scooby bucks" spendable.

 

Beware the soft and whitish bills.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 23:38 | 2275758 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Jendrzejczyk said:

Used to have a dog that ate any cash left out.

Yeah, it's weird how some dogs just have a taste for crap. ;)

 

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 18:05 | 2274985 docmac324
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If only deficits were illegal.

 

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 18:09 | 2274997 bgilliam83
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Funny thing is this doesn't avoid jack squat.  If they threatened tanks in the streets, tanks in the streets there will be.  After they get done looting the till dry.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 18:15 | 2275016 Withdrawn Sanction
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The 236% growth rate in the Fed's balance sheet is staggering enough, but that's a stock figure.  The flow figure was (acc. to the GAO's audit and Bloomberg's FOIA) $16 trillion, plus another $10 T in CB swap facilities.  That's an enormous amount of churn for very little net gain...as the host and hostesses of Bloomberg TV indicated, the S&P was down 10%.  Then they quickly retorted, "well can you imagine how much worse it would have been w/o this massive scale intervention?"

Come on, where's the evidence to back up this oft-repeated but never substantiated assertion?  Rather than engage in hyperbole and arbitrary Jim Grant (among others) cites the real life historical evidence of the 1920/21 depression in which unemployment soared, many banks busted, and industrial production dropped like a stone....for a year.  Yes, it was indeed painful but mercifully short-lived.  Rather like yanking a band-aid off quickly rather than painfully slowly.

Instead today we have the banksters and their toadies at the Fed gingerly pulling the band-aid off one millimeter at a time...all while pus continues to fester beneath it.

"$26 trillion, and all I got was this lousy tee shirt"

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 20:02 | 2275311 Widowmaker
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We dont need no fucking evidence.

Evidence is how to lose your fraud-jobs!

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 21:38 | 2275526 lotsoffun
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i never really thought about it - but in retrospect?  (is that the right term) the banksters did learn something, because besides the ones at the very top jpm and company - a whole bunch of them apparently did lose everything.  and this time - they haven't lost a cent.  and they aren't going to.  so, in that sense, this time it is different.

 

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 18:21 | 2275026 bgilliam83
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T-shirt? At this point that's irrational exuberance, more like FEMA coffin....

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 18:26 | 2275046 Tao 4 the Show
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The Big Question: Are these guys just holding it all together because they don't know what else to do? Or, are they holding it together so the public stays calm until _______ event occurs?

Is there intelligent life in the ruling universe? Or, are they only egomaniacal morons?

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 18:47 | 2275103 Money 4 Nothing
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National Emergency

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 18:49 | 2275110 Incubus
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It's being held together until they're ready to spring their population reduction schemes into place, under the guise of "war" and artificial "scarcity" and protecting each respective country.

 

When we kill one another, we'll do it willingly.  No--"they," the elites won't get their hands bloody--they don't have to because they control us so well. 

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 18:29 | 2275055 eddiebe
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Grand theft auto(cracy)

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 18:33 | 2275063 Xanadu_doo
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wealth effect?

bitchez...

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 18:34 | 2275067 navy62802
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underhanded theft of taxpayer money ... priceless.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 18:35 | 2275072 Börjesson
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And in New Zealand, they're already going through Marmageddon...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17441468

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 04:52 | 2276049 kookaburralaugh
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Talking of TPTB and NWO... "Sanitarium Australia is owned and operated by Australians while Sanitarium New Zealand is owned and operated by New Zealanders. Sanitarium is wholly owned by the Seventh Day Adventist Church." Source: http://www.ethical.org.au/company/?company=72

Sanitarium owns the brand name "Marmite" in ANZ, and its brand police have been highly active against importers into Australia of the British product "Marmite" - to the point that importers have had to relabel the British product before they can put it on their shelves.

I laughed at it at first... but then I discovered ZH.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 18:59 | 2275105 Eric L. Prentis
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Total and utter mismanagement of the credit crisis, with only one goal in mind:

KEEP THE BANKSTERS IN POWER!!!

Now the criminals what to take away social security, to cover-up their ungodly performance.

Better, they should rot in hell.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 21:46 | 2275540 Incubus
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Why pray for hell for them?  Such pussiness.  Show them hell here on earth.  But we won't because we're too domesticated to do anything.

 

We like our paychecks and toys and lifestyles--so deal with progressively less until you have nothing and you either die on the streets or are shot.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 18:50 | 2275116 kill switch
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Fred Reed

 

As I listen to American fury against uncoöperative Afghans, to Congress furiously denouncing Pakistan for anemic aid in conducting the current wars, I sometimes wonder whether the US is playing with a full deck. The anger arises I suspect becaause the US and the rest of the world work from very different premises. They believe in, as we say, distinct narratives.

The American narrative holds that the United States is a light to the world, the freest, richest, most productive country the world has ever seen, the greatest military power, the most prolific producer of technlogy and of Nobel laureates. America is a force for freedom and democacry, a champion of human rights, a land of universal opportunity with liberty and justice for all. The Unites States is what all countries could be if they accepted our values. History supports this view. In a raw ccontinent, American energy and free enterprise carved a paradise from a wilderness.

This narrative, the belief that America is special among nations, favored by God, pervades the culture. Those old enough will remember that Superman fought for “truth, justice, and the American way.”

Underlying all of this is a profoundly moral view of America's place in the world. The United States does not fight, like the French, for glory or like the English, for empire, or like the Russians, to steal watches from the wounded. America fights against Evil, whether in the form of communism, terror, Islam, socialism, or the growing threat of enslavement by Chinese communism. These evils are real, Americans believe, immediate, and threaten us with tyranny.

The narrative of the US military springs from the national narrative. American soldiers are brave, wholesome young men selflessly sacrificing to overthrow brutal dictarors, to defeat terror, and to give the oppressed peoples the benefits of democracy. This actually happened in Japan, Germany, and Iraq, asserts the narrative. Sure, a bad apple among GIs may occasionally commit an atrocity, but these are isolated incidents and blown out of proportion by a leftist press.

Quite different is what might be called the World Narrative, held around the globe with differeing intensities and emphases. It holds the US to be an endlessly aggressive military power that is out of control, hypocritically speaking of democracy and freedom while supporting dictators and overthrowing elected governments. America is arrogant, crassly mateiralistic, crime-ridden, vulgar, racially unjust, the world's only avowed practicioner of torture, economically explotative, imperialistic and intolerant of other cultures.

The military form of the World Narrative holds that America savagely attacks weaker nations in pursuit of oil and empire, that it uses overwhelming technological superiority to butcher peasants armed with rifles, that atrocites are routine, that it employs Stalinist nocturnal raids to terrorize populations, that killing of children is common.

The World Narrative is closer to the truth. It is easy to compile a long list of dictatorships supported by the US, and anyone who has covered wars knows that atrocities are what militaries do. America supports Saudi Arabia and Israel, both with horrible records on human rights. It would also be easy to show that many countries that accuse the US of misbehavior commit or have committed similar crimes. This doesn't occur to these countries. Peoples see everybody's warts but their own.

The peculiar isolation in which Americans typically live shelters the national narrative. Americans are geographically isolated in that they can go nowhere without passports, which few have; linguistically isolated in that almost none speak a second language; and temporally isolated since few have even a rudimentary grasp of history. Add an odd lack of curiosity, apparenly based on a belief that the superiority of America is such that other places are not worthy of study. The result is a closed system.

This might be of minor interest if it did not affect American policy. But it does. The US operates in a world that doesn't quite exist. Think of a blind man who by error enters the wrong house. He bumps into furniture and can't find the bathroom because things are not where he thinks they are.

Consider the war to take over Afghanistan—which is what it is. The American Narrative, relentlessly moral, says that the US is there to fight Terror, to defeat Al Qaida, to save the Afghan people from repressive domination by the Taliban. The government in Kabul represents the Afghan people and is allied with the US in ridding the country of extremists. The Caspian hydrocarbons have nothing to do with it. The GIs fight to give Afghans a stable democracy, law and order, and equal rights fo women.

This is the sort of moral mission that the Narrative demands. In the real world, one might as well give art lessons to a boar hog.

By contrast, the Afghans predictably see the US as an invading army of brutal infidels—a word we see as faintly amusing but they don't—who bomb and kill, kick in their doors at three a.m, humiliate the men in front of their families and insult their women. A very little of this, a very few dead children, can arouse a whole lot of hatred, but the American Narrative doesn't allow of this truth.

Condequences ensue. Note that in Afghanistan, as in Iraq, as in Pakistan, as in Viet Nam, the national armies supposedly on America's side are never ready. Despite billions of dollars spent in training them, somehow they are always years away from being able to take over. They desert, coöperate with the enemy, sometimes murder GIs. By contrast, the enemy fights tenaciously.

The Americans are baffled and outraged. “We are here to help these people, to protect them against the evil (communists, Al Qaida, Iranians, or whatever). Where is their gratitude? Why don't they do their share?”

When you recruit citizens of a country to kill their own people in the name of a widely hated puppet government, their enthusiasm is likely to be exiguous. But since the American Narrative insists that the US seeks only to end the dominion of Evil, opposition to America becomes inexplicable.

In war after war, those attacked fail to act as the US expects. The Iraqis should have welcomed the American soldiers who were bringing them democracy and defeating an evil dictator. This fits the Narrative. That people don't like being invaded, having their cities devastated, their fathers, husbands, sons, and brothers in the army killed—this does not fit the Narative of unalloyed American virtue. It merely determines events.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 18:57 | 2275140 akak
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Beautiful in its truth, ugly in its reality.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 19:01 | 2275146 kill switch
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Amazing!!! Your the man!!!!

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 19:08 | 2275168 Winston Churchill
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Hardly an riginal thesis.

All Empires have the same delusion.

Britain:God is English and also plys cricket.

Germany:Gott mit uns.

French:their God.

Why would Pax Americana be any different ?

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 19:46 | 2275279 blunderdog
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American citizenism!  OH NOEZ!

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 22:31 | 2275626 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Pox Americana.

 

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 01:07 | 2275881 akak
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Not to be confused with the Pox Sinesica:

"Veni, vidi, blobbi"

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 21:33 | 2275517 lotsoffun
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these people are so poor.  they can't watch oprah and rachel ray.  we need to give them some flat panels, and then they could watch this and appreciate why thousands of their years of culture aren't worth a thing if they don't know how to straighten kinky hair or make a good pasta salad.  oh.  i forgot.  we need to build them an electric grid also.  funny how not having electric won't run a flat panel well.

what was it the british empire used to say  'poor devils.  they really don't know what they are missing.  they are so much like children and needing help'.

it's different this time.  we are the USA. 

 

 

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 23:49 | 2275777 Savyindallas
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Fred   -this is a really good post. You really understand whatn you are talking about. What is your background?

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 00:09 | 2275800 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Fred Reed's background:

http://www.fredoneverything.net/biography.shtml

He's one of those people who would make a good president because he wouldn't want anything to do with the job.

 

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 05:02 | 2276054 kookaburralaugh
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The United States does NOT fight for Empire?

http://www.freesound.org/people/pocket/sounds/44554/

 

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 18:52 | 2275121 mr_bad
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we're all doomed

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 18:57 | 2275135 Jack Burton
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Obama shut down all the oil rigs, no drilling allowed. Obama orders oil companies to cease drilling. This is why gas is high. Any fool knows this, why not get the truth on FOX. Obama is a communist anti American Muslim born in Kenya and raised in secret to become a Muslim president and order oil drilling to be stopped. This well known plot has been in the works for over 40 years, now it has been put in place. Only Romeny can turn this around and get gas down to $1.50 so we can again regain our driving freedom. No more Muslim presidents, no more foreign born presidents. We need a Mormon to get us right with god and to get the drilling rigs out of moth balls and drilling again. FOX says it, I believe it. Don't you?

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 19:10 | 2275159 Money 4 Nothing
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I get it, your being sarcastic.. Thought you were serious about the drilling and Faux news part anyway, the rest is pretty accurate.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 21:28 | 2275508 lotsoffun
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well - some of what you say is true.  which part of it is it?  ;)

 

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 18:59 | 2275144 Zgangsta
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But debt is an asset!  This is good news!  I fully expect another digit on the S&P by the end of the year.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 19:05 | 2275155 cranky-old-geezer
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It's not Armageddon avoidance.  It's looting.  Looting the economy and looting the people. 

Stealing people's wealth the easy way by keeping interest rates ridiculously low so the government can borrow money on the cheap.

Stealing people's wealth the easy way by printing currency and giving it to banks.

If you keep your wealth in FRNs you're gona lose it.  They're gonna loot it all from you.

If you keep your wealth in gold, silver, whiskey, bullets, guns, cigarettes, classic cars, Harley's, or any other consumer item in high demand, they won't be able to loot it from you

...because the Fed can't print gold, silver, whiskey, bullets, guns, cigarettes, classic cars, Harley's, or any other consumer item in high demand on a god damn printing press.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 19:20 | 2275201 Money 4 Nothing
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But they regulate all of the above, just saying.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 23:41 | 2275763 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Yeah, and weed is illegal. I guess I'll never get a chance to try it.

 

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 19:23 | 2275173 Dre4dwolf
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I mean well... the national debt is kinda a... an arbitrary number by now... it will continue to grow exponentially so long as the U.S. Govt and the Fed have a heart beat.

 

The system is designed to expand debt exponentially to infinity, if it stops it dies.

 

If you chart money creating from 1933 to the year 2050, its a parabola, it can not and will not come out any other way unless the Federal Reserve is removed and the monetary system is changed to something with a steady slope (like a gold standard or something).

 

When you print money to buy bonds, and you buy bonds to print money.

All you are doing is exponentially expanding the money supply by creating new debts . . .

Throw derivatives in there and you get to the point where the system is pretty much on the edge of a cliff (we are 6 months to a year ) away from disaster.

 

If oil prices hit something like 160$ a barel , thats pretty much the end of the dollar as you know it... because it would REMOVE the status as reserve currency.

 

The U.S. Dollar is used as the reserve currency so that we can get oil for cheap (the citizens of the USA subsidize the cost of oil through eating inflation in other commodities) (we off-set the cost of oil by spreading the cost out on other goods like food).

We make oil cheaper for the entire world actually (slightly).

But when you have to inflate your money so much to keep your financial system going without raising taxes that would kill your citizens, the oil prices start to rise and other nations wont want to use dollars anymore because they will have to buy too many dollars to buy oil (it gets cheaper just to buy the damned oil than to buy the dollars with which to buy the oil with).

That ends the status as reserve currency.

That means we must compete world wide for oil... and we have no freaking energy policy.... other than making shit electric cars that self combust and cost 250,000$ each in govt subs.

SO.....

 

O yea I was getting to the solution.

 

Retrto fit cars to run on natural gas, and give people incentives to ride bicycles/motorcycles/scooters etc.

 

Do this and the economy will grow as people rush to start manufacturing fuel efficient "personal locomotion devices".

 

 

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 19:18 | 2275199 alfred b.
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   Nothing here that a l'il bit of QE can't fix....(sic)

....and btw, what's with all the B's and T's on this chart; couldn't find enough room for all those zeros??    Wait till we hit the Q's!

 

 

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 19:20 | 2275203 Waterfallsparkles
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Sad state of affairs the Banks created with all of their worthless paper and Credit Default Swaps. 

They got rich and the Nation got Poor.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 19:25 | 2275222 Dre4dwolf
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Actually the banks are just as poor as the nation, the illusion of wealth transfer only works if the people are willing to TAKE BACK all the dollars the banks have stollen.

 

(You can steal something thats valuable, and then all of the sudden it becomes worthless and no one wants it).

 

So the banks are only as rich as you are willing to let them be in the future when they try and give you back the money they stole from you for stuff they want to buy from you.

If that makes sense.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 19:22 | 2275216 rsnoble
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So what is this market going to do? Bounce around from 12900 to 13200 right up till election time?  Pretty bad when -60 equates a broad selloff by the media.  I'd like to see shit fly apart before our overlord gets reelected and make things interested.  I think this whole POS is about ready to just shit all over itself.  Oh, and good luck sidetracking the population with Iran when all the pensioners go bust.  The US gov't isn't going to go away, if it collapses it will just force it's hand. It's gona get ugly im afraid.   What a bunch of fucking morons, they keep playing along like none of know how screwed we are. 

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 19:26 | 2275227 Dre4dwolf
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Thats an easy one, Dow @ 9000~10,000 by June.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 19:31 | 2275247 rsnoble
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That makes the most sense, then they can pump it into November and all the peons will have already forgot about the 4k drop.  I am sick of being surrounded by a bunch of stupid fucking idiots.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 19:23 | 2275217 JohnKozac
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I hope you post this chart regularly as a reminder. The format is very catchy....

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 19:56 | 2275294 Village Smithy
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Yes, repost every time we get some "bullish" economic news. Hey folks, this is how much that .0001% improvement is going to cost your children and grand-children!

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 19:30 | 2275243 rsnoble
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Oh did anyone see where they are going to remove all the regulations/audits prior for an IPO?? 

That's the whole problem with this system........if someone isn't getting fucked then it doesn't work. Next thing you know they'll be making up shell companies everyday and we'll have a great new IPO everyday propping this pile of crap up.

WallStreet is a blackhole and the entire planet is circling around it.  Thank god we aren't multi-planetary or they'd be going too.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 19:40 | 2275263 I am Jobe
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talk about fucked up

There's A Brewing Battle Over A Mysterious Government Bank That Does Nothing But Subsidize Huge Corporations

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-mysterious-government-bank-that-congr...

Tyler you need this on the next post.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 19:45 | 2275276 I am Jobe
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Let Your Life Be a Friction to Stop the Machine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2Xh5eN2fXY&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 19:59 | 2275296 dolph9
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I'm telling anybody here with ears to hear...infinite growth is the idealogy of a cancer cell.

Open up your minds and look around at all the roads and buildings and signs and lights and everything...these didn't come from "nothing."  If you are a religious person you can say only God can create from nothing.  If you are a nonreligious person, you can say energy is neither created nor destroyed.

Every single thing you see is ultimately physical, and came from the earth on which you walk.  It didn't drop from the sky.  All of the coal and gas we burn to create electricity, and all of the oil to power the planes and cars, comes from the ground, and is finite.  As are all of the materials we use to build anything.

However, fiat money, unbacked by anything in the physical world, is infinite.  It seemingly gives bankers the ability to create something from nothing.  But you should know by now that this is a lie.

There's only so much land, resources, and water to go around.  If America "grows" forever it can only come at the expense of another country out there, or maybe at the expense of the atmosphere or oceans, or at the expense of the currency.  Same goes for China or Japan or Europe or anywhere.

Human beings have been expanding unstably in population since the dawn of the fossil fuel age, based upon the energy gradient unleashed.  What do you think you are actually "made of?"  At the end of the day, we are basically made up of oil.  Your great great grandfather may have been made up of solar energy that found its way through the ecosystem to plants and animal life, which he incorporated into his own body to "grow" until he couldn't do so any longer.  You are here because, before he stopped growing and ultimately died and became part of the earth again, he reproduced, and his child managed to reproduce and do the same thing, etc.

If you can appreciate this you can begin to appreciate how fucked we are.  So the question is...what are you going to do about it?  Don't look at me for the answers. 

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 21:55 | 2275558 Cabreado
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"If you can appreciate this you can begin to appreciate how fucked we are.  So the question is...what are you going to do about it?  Don't look at me for the answers."

I'm starting to find some kind of faith in the younger among us -- truth has a way of surviving, and they are recognizing and understanding the lies.

After the Great Reset, after the Pain,

I believe Truth may have a chance... because the hunger for such a thing, once again, is reaching critical mass.

In the meantime, the collective We needs to keep our wits about us, and have humility when it is needed most.

This is going to take a while...

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 20:03 | 2275314 Hangfire
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Sometimes I will just stare for hours.  Hmmm, any suggestions for background music?

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 20:25 | 2275349 Hangfire
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Not bad, I had to dig around to come up with one of my own.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVjsT8S4ds0

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 20:29 | 2275350 Hangfire
Tue, 03/20/2012 - 21:00 | 2275434 Goldilocks
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Or...

~//~

Pink Floyd - Money (Official Music Video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-j3xITvYQY (4:42)

Money - Pink Floyd + Lyrics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkhX5W7JoWI (6:22)

~//~

Rain Drops keep falling on my head
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VILWkqlQLWk (3:11)

Burt Bacharach - Raindrops Keep Falling On My Head
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbYWkegobTU (3:03)

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 20:27 | 2275355 Jim Quinn
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But the Wall Street Journal said the American taxpayer actually made a profit from TARP.

They wouldn't lie. Would they?

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 21:20 | 2275489 BackOffice Slut
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TAKE THE BLUE PILL!

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 21:59 | 2275573 VinnyTheBlade
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If the S&P crashes to zero, and nobody is still alive to hear it....does it make a sound?

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 22:37 | 2275638 jonjon831983
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dunno bout that, but if VXX skyrockets I'd be dancing in my grave.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 23:01 | 2275684 BandGap
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Mosin Nagants on sale for 79.99 at Dunham's. Cheap surplus ammo, too.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 06:50 | 2276126 lakecity55
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Using my trusty supercomputer, a program I wrote concludes we are safe from Obamatron attack when the number of weapons/citizen=6.976543.

Additionally, ammo must reach a number of 15,000 rounds/citizen.

Keep Stacking

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 23:16 | 2275723 icanhasbailout
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 It's not Armageddon they're avoiding, it's apocalypse.

 

(Look up the definitions of each if you don't get it.)

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 01:41 | 2275926 ebworthen
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DOH!

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 04:03 | 2276014 cnhedge
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the stock market benefited a lot!

 

http://www.cnhedge.com/

http://www.jinrongbaike.com/

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 11:05 | 2276640 bamf1411
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If we could get this on the metric system it would be ok and positive.

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