Presenting The Latest Hedge Fund Hotel: These Are The Most Beloved Stocks By Hedge Funds At September 30

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Fri, 11/25/2011 - 17:33 | 1913942 GubbermintWorker
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And for everything else.... Mastercard!

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 17:55 | 1913988 prains
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Fri, 11/25/2011 - 23:32 | 1914524 spiral_eyes
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"Other diversified financial services", bitchez.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 19:26 | 1914092 paarsons
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All my money is in pork and beans.

Anyway, seasons greetings.  And go LSU.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 05:07 | 2648260 mediaprizm
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Thanks for informative and helpful post, obviously in your blog everything is good.If you post informative comments on blogs it fetches you a lot.
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Fri, 11/25/2011 - 21:21 | 1914244 xcehn
Fri, 11/25/2011 - 17:33 | 1913947 jcaz
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Wow, some real snoozers in there;

Alpha?   Looks more like trying to settle down shaky clients with a quasi-mutual fund........

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 17:59 | 1913997 MillionDollarBonus_
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You forget that many of these funds hold mean-variance optimized portfolios, so return to risk ratios are of a professional standard. I'm sick and tired of redneck day traders criticising experts who have spent years studying advanced portfolio theory.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 18:14 | 1914017 jcaz
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MDB!   Your Mom let you out of her basement for the weekend?

Your post defines the term "Pseudointellectual";   Stop using Wickopedia, your terms don't even match up.

Amusing how few you snow on this board..........


Fri, 11/25/2011 - 19:37 | 1914103 narapoiddyslexia
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"experts who have spent years studying advanced portfolio theory..."

Which takes us to Markowitz and then straight to Milton Friedman. God, we have so many reasons to thank those Chicago economists!

Where would we be without them?



Fri, 11/25/2011 - 20:20 | 1914115 hedgeless_horseman
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Will you just look at that chart of fund holdings?  

Can't help but think that the ghost of Bernie Cornfeld rides again.


By definition, diversity guarantees mediocrity.  

Many fools may pay for mediocrity...but only for a little while.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 21:09 | 1914220 trav7777
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bbbut...I have been told diversity is our strength.  In fact, there is a black studies department at some college that wrote that desegregation was an advantage to WHITE students as a result that they got access to diversity being bused in.

Sat, 11/26/2011 - 06:44 | 1914856 falak pema
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hobby horse; like black dikks are kings of the combo. Lets dance to that tune. Why does prejudice so rhyme with jaundice?

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 18:30 | 1914033 JPM Hater001
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Where is the Dr Paul Krugman fellow?  Ever notice how you never see Clark Kent and Superman at the same time?

Well, this is nothing like that.  Just a sad footnote in history.  Poor MDB.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 19:39 | 1914108 knukles
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Marla never sees Tyler and the Narrator at the same time, either.  But then again, that's a man dealing with his alter ego. 
Not a man embracing his own ignorance.

Got some bad bad news for MDB, BTW. 
There are some of us here who are neither day traders nor ignorant of modern financial theory and practice.  I myself, have published in serious professional journals and texts and have professionally, successfully managed institutional monies for some 30 years. 
Have you, MDB?
Have you published?
Have you managed money professionally?
Has a portion of your master's thesis been used as required reading in an MBA course?

Just askin', ya know. 

Sat, 11/26/2011 - 06:38 | 1914854 falak pema
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Bare knuckles play of fight club magnitude. I gasp in applause at the incisive thrust of impressive track record. Autoproclaimed but probably merited, as I don't doubt the rectitude of  your mental boner.

Just tellin', ya know.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 18:41 | 1914046 Alien Invader
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You are a wanker! All that MPT does is try and eliminate systematic risk. If your portfolio is comprised of a bunch of dog shiat stocks then as it goes down the crapper it will do so, but with less volatility than if you were holding a "non-diversified" portfolio. MSFT come on!


Me thinks you are a failed GS intern. Go suck some wisdom out of Llyods cack!

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 20:10 | 1914133 Unprepared
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A failed GS intern would at least know that's a bunch of bullshit. MDB woke up one day and found himself enrolled into an advanced financial market engineering theory PhD program. The pure shit.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 18:52 | 1914059 Catflappo
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MillionDollarBonus - that you have the name you do, and yet are so brain dead (assuming your post is not sarcastic) is to possibly sum up why the financial world is in tatters.  


I suspect on a like-for-like basis my nick would be something like QuadrillionDollarBonus, and even those in the most menial jobs in society would be named HundredThousandDollarBonus

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 19:00 | 1914064 Smiddywesson
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Sockpuppet, your comments reek of Robothink.  You wouldn't be Robo's younger brother would you?

Tyler, get your third alter ego out of my holiday weekend.  :-)


mean-variance optimized portfolios, so return to risk ratios are of a professional standard


LOL, very funny.  Redneck trading saved my account in 2007, so big worded gambling doesn't intimidate me.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 20:01 | 1914121 Unprepared
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MillionDollarBaby is a real professional troll. Robotard is still an amateur compared to him.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 19:10 | 1914077 Carlyle Groupie
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Occupy Zerohedge brah. Right on.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 19:10 | 1914078 Iconoclast
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Are you touchy because your million dollar bonus will be paid in shares? Unlucky...

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 19:48 | 1914110 WhiteNight123129
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MDB you have a rotten sense of humor, I like that very much!

We have in our industry a lot of fakes who sell because they have a name...I work for a small hedge fund for 11 years and no down year and I am fucking tired of being the ghost of some stupid ass self promoted former high net worth broker, go red necks go rogue pros, fuck the insider hacks of Galleon and SAC, SAC got right on their short squeeze of TLB but then I shorted, they stayed in those stupid asses. SAC has some bad traders too and a lot of insider shit, they very good traders too.






Fri, 11/25/2011 - 20:03 | 1914125 WhiteNight123129
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All the good pros know that mean variance is BS.

So I am assuming MDB is probably a pro criticizing the bad pros and getting some people upset while he actually has some sympathy.

Black and scholes is crap, there a lot stocks which can look like Gauss, but when the distribution is Poisson like you make a killing when other people use Gauss, as for in the money Warrants on mining or asset which reprice inflation the premium is ridiculously cheap because some idiots you the treasury curve to price compound rate which is completly disconnected from compound inflation.  BUY 50% IN THE MONEY WARRANTS WITH LONG EXPIRATION, YOU WILL BUY THE BUSINESS FOR HALF PRICE PROVIDED YOU HAVE A TINY BIT OF GOLD. I.E. THE FUTURE PRICE IN TODAYS DOLLARS YOU WILL PAY WILL FOR EXERCISE WILL BE SMALL (THE FUTURE DOLLARS WILL WORTH SHIT),  OR OUT OF THE MONEY CALLS ON EQUITY, EQUITY REPRICES MASSIVE INFLATION, AND SHORT FOREIGN CURRENCY THOSE WILL SLAUGHTERED WITH EURO IMPLOSION COMING (several exits) but that is for the short term.



Fri, 11/25/2011 - 20:15 | 1914140 css1971
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So... Good coke, no?

Sat, 11/26/2011 - 02:40 | 1914765 Freddie
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LOL!  Do coke heads write in LONG run-on sentences?  The dude should learn to use a comma or a period once every 50 words. ;-)

Sat, 11/26/2011 - 02:13 | 1914729 Bansters-in-my-...
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Hey MDB,,,,

Have you ever swallowed keynesian cum you never liked...?

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 18:03 | 1914005 Caviar Emptor
Fri, 11/25/2011 - 17:34 | 1913948 Corn1945
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MSFT has been dead money for so long. I don't get why people hold it. Even the dividend yield sucks. 

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 17:39 | 1913956 Freddie
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MSFT might be a decent swing trade when it goes just below $24 for a bounce to $26. Besides that, you are correct - it is dogshit.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 19:16 | 1914081 Yamaha
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Tune into TED and see why......

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 21:12 | 1914226 trav7777
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it makes Gates profits so he can help africans, how can you not want to buy into that?

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 22:19 | 1914400 Taint Boil
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Need to help the people with AIDS now don't we?

Sat, 11/26/2011 - 00:35 | 1914612 chunkylover42
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MSFT is a parking place for tech money when the market looks like shit.  You can maintain your bench exposure to the sector and not get killed being long beta when the maret goes down.

Sat, 11/26/2011 - 02:30 | 1914752 Freddie
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MSFT is sort of like buying a tech treasury bill.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 17:36 | 1913952 Caviar Emptor
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Market is just a barometer for loose monetary policy. If that tightens, disapoints or fails to impress then stocks are a losing proposition. On top of that rides global uncertainty which adds big risk to your capital. 

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 17:39 | 1913959 Missiondweller
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That kind of insite is why I love ZH!

Thanks Tyler, a great post.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 19:54 | 1914114 Unprepared
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As the saying goes, "out of site, out of mind."

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 17:42 | 1913962 Freddie
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Obama-UAW GM at #7?  LOL!  Must be a payoff or TARP scam for the hedgies.  Trash built by union goons.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 18:33 | 1914036 LongBallsShortBrains
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Your statement is an insult to real goons.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 21:45 | 1914313 Freddie
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LOL!  +1

My apologies to all non-UAW & non-Obama goons.

I think I would rather own Netflix than own GM-Obama-UAW.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 17:45 | 1913967 High Plains Drifter
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yeh sure. look at that list.   hedge funds my ass. what is the definition of a hedgefund?  animal spirits?  oh please......

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 17:49 | 1913976 falak pema
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But the real money is in that other hotel across the pond :

nobody lists their sovereign eurobond shorts in this; I'm sure they all have hedges on Euro bonds. 

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 17:50 | 1913978 buzzsaw99
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I wouldn't pay a plug nickel for HES.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 17:55 | 1913987 mayhem_korner
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Random points:

Nothing raw materials/essentials in the top 10 (don't argue Pfizer...)

How many years have Newmont and Barrack been in the top 25?

Sector divergence is pretty clear even at this level.


Fri, 11/25/2011 - 17:56 | 1913989 comrade rally monkey
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that has to be some kind of backdoor deal for the HF crew to get deferred comp passed thru congress.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 17:58 | 1913995 slewie the pi-rat
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a roach!

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 18:04 | 1914009 css1971
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MSFT? Are you kidding? MSFT is a dinosaur.

They had to pay Nokia to use their mobile phone software, and that is when Nokia was desperate to switch their phones to something more modern. Linux has commoditised operating systems and is eating MSFT market share everywhere but the desktop, and Apple are eating it on the desktop.


Fri, 11/25/2011 - 21:14 | 1914228 trav7777
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ROTFL, no crapple isn't...hahahahaha.

Last I heard, there was no "red hat" mobile OS or anything like it.  Only CIAgle's Andriod.

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