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OK - not a critcism or praise of the Volt; though I personally like it and can afford it as a toy, I still think it's too expensive.
HOWEVER, you are a stinking, lowdown, dirty, rotten LIAR about your solar installation. I live right here in DC, and it SNOWED and was cloudy ALL DAY yesterday. If you unplugged your car from the panels and drove to the voting booth, you won't get past the end of your driveway.
Cut the hyperbole! The car is a fun car to drive with the oodles of torque available from rest (test drove it 2 times...) but is political poison. It doesn't need people lying about it. Let the car stand on its own, and it will sink or swim. Don't lie about it, though.
That's great.
How many average workers will be able to afford one?And how many will be able to afford enough solar panels to charge one for "free"?
So how will we produce enough electricity to charge all the new electric cars?
You're welcome for the tax break you got to buy it......
You are welcome for the low price of gasoline brought to you by the military industrial complex that is funded entirely by us taxpayers. I would venture to say that we all paid 1000 times more in tax to keep the cheap oil flowing worldwide last year than we did subsidizing the Volt.
More cheap oil would probably flow if the U.S. military wasn't involved in making sure that the Anglo-American oil companies had a lock on it. It costs money to buy the stuff that oil sheiks and tin-horn dictators worldwide like to have. They're going to sell their oil to get that stuff, even if they have to do it for $10/bbl.
These Anglo-American cos., just how much of the world supply do they control? At what rate are they pumping down their proven reserves? Is that consistent with them holding back?
I've been enjoying my Prius for 7 years, jackass. I'll be driving it another 13 years and I'll turn it in when the odometer clips 300K. What took GM so long to produce a gas-electric hybrid? Will you be driving your Volt in 2030? Given GM's comittment to quality, not likely.
Dude- don't brag about driving around in a 20 yr old Prius.....
When there's piss stains and scratches on your 'green' machine in the near future (maybe a sliced tire or 2), then maybe you'll see how the Amerikan public really feels about your choice of automobile.
Too bad for you, but it's another waste like Solyndra. Maybe you can find a way to install a few solar panels on the roof?
The government's involvement in alternative energy isn't to promote it, but to kill it off. If you're not pissing away energy, you're not paying energy taxes. The last thing the goob wants is energy efficency/self-sufficency.
Enjoy your $5 gas too once you drive over 35 miles. And you paid how much for that privilege? Sheesh.
True, it's been in development many years... and GM had delayed the launch of the vehicle numeroust times as well. They were watching the market, waiting on technological developments, etc. like any wise company to ensure the launch of a successful product.
Problem is, the government got involved and started pulling strings. Decisions at GM became politically directed and it was rushed out the door. GM and the world now sees the results of such a decision making process.
Personally, I like the Volt. I wish it had 3 seats in the back instead of the buckets. The reports of catastrophic fires are greatly exaggerated. There's been a lot of mis-information regarding it's true cost of operation.
Even so, the problem with the Volt is that it's the birth of fascism between the married couple of GM and the U.S. Govt.
I'm not so sure of that - Bob Lutz is a hard man to push around, and this was his baby. Mine doesn't show signs of being rushed to market before it was ready at all. Yeah, sure, it's nasty that the government had to get involved, but things are what they are.
To the guy who worries about $5 gas after I go the usual 42 miles I get on battery - hey, I'm not stupid enough to live far from where I work, in fact my commute is walking from my bed to my office in the same building. I only go out to socialize and get groceries. If I want to take a road trip, I get about 37 mpg, hauling ass too. At least I can - a Tesla might not make the trip, but this will. I like the freedom to not have to sweat it either way.
I don't get your last line, sounds like trying to be poetic, but fascism has been around for quite awhile in this country, with the constitution being used for toilet paper for quite some time - last few administrations at least, it's all about making sure big companies face no threats from disruptive upstarts via the IP laws, and that we all have to be good little sheep and bust ass to pay rent to the system. I'm a bit off that track. I'm down to one montly bill - internet.
Gas - need none. Groceries - mostly from the farm. Rent? Own the place. Music? I'm a musician. Starting to get the idea here? Ya'll seem to think your gold will save you when blood is literally running in the streets. Nope, it just paints a target on your back for the other gold bugs. I have gold myself, why should I share my food, farm, transportation, clean water with your sorry ass with a bad attitude just because you have gold? I'll just shoot you and take it if you make trouble.
Production of the Volt was a non-negotiable term of the federal bailout. That dog would have gotten cancelled in a heartbeat if GM actually had to reorganize in BK court like non-crony companies do.
Chevy (GM and OBama) already cleaning the web of this video...real fast! gee...shocking.
Yup, You get 'two losers for the price of one' with this picture.
Mr. Fix
http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2012/03/03/gm-halts-chevy-volt-producti...
GM Halts Chevy Volt Production After ZeroHedge Exposes Accounting FraudIt's not the volts, it's the amps.
The european version, called the Ampera, just won car of the year over there. Funny how dead wrong the group-think around here can consistently be.
Funny how naive a ZH poster can be.
yeah, but the Ampera runs on burning Greek paper...endless supply.
The VW Passat won Car of the Year here too. Doesn't really account for much.
If there was a God, the locks would have failed and the batteries would have caught fire with Obama inside.
While that would have been the first and only fire involving a human - in this case, I agree 100%.
Say hello to the American Trabant.
hey rhino, silver getting a smackdown. no dollars to print, no metals to mint...................
My safe contents haven't deflated. I'm good.
Sale time baby. Another order going in today!
Another 14% down and Ag will be a push with equities YTD. What a horrible investment.
Now, I'm off to order up some gold maples and big ol' bag-o-90% silver "junk".
SilverRhino, it reminds me more of "The Homer" from an old Simpsons episode when Danny Devito played his brother.
Is his Volt currently parked for some unknown amount of time?
Smug in the city
$40,000 price tag without the government tax incentives, so cheap that anybody can buy.
Where does electricity come from? Better yet what do you do with the batteries after 7 years? How about those that bought one, now with a residual value of about $9,000 bucks, and only paid 50K! American muscle baby.....
Upside down on a Volt?
Obambi administration announces Full Investment Return Exchange insurance program that will provide 125% coverage of the purchase price of any Volt that has any problems. The consumer will receive 100% of the purchase price. The dealer will receive 25% of the purchase price and the cremains of the car. The President noted that this program will be revenue neutral via a small 1% surcharge on all automobile insurance (excluding Volt owners).
barliman
cremains
You meant that, didn't you?
Funny!
It's a moot point. At the rate we're going, western civilization as we know it won't last another 7 years.
The Obama Volt:
Can go 400 miles, run for re-election and bomb Iran on BS*.
* Battery Storage
You get a car!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gf5sU4SBKVs
Nancy Pelosi is in the back - it's a remake of driving Miss Daisy.
That's what we call financial efficiency, Enron style. Thanks Barney Fwank !
Obammer said he wanted to take it for a drive, but the secret service wouldn't allow it. The risk of a fire, methinks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nn0V-DYxsCg
Enough said!
$250,000 golf cart
http://www.michigancapitolconfidential.com/16192
The unicorn and rainbow design package is extra.
Chevrolet forced this video off YouTube. What losers.
Many in my family were in the auto industry for years. I try to talk to them about 'channel stuffing' and they just don't believe it.
I can't believe they still trust management after all these years!
They claim they have sold more than 7000 of them. I have never seen one on the road.
I saw one on the road about 3 weeks ago. It was one ugly POS!
I sorta saw one on the road last week...there was a rollback towtruck between it and the road though.
Rember to Volt Obama this election
& Vote Dr Ron Paul
where'd the picture go?
Under my proposal of a cap and trade plan, energy prices would skyrocket.
Won't cost $.12 per kWh for electricity if everyone has an electric car. For Obama $2.50 per kWh would probably be more like it. We won't have gas, but it will still take $50 to fill your car.
That's why you build your own solar system and can then ignore the man from then out. I did. BTW, at 12c/kwh, a Volt gets around 35 miles/dollar. But I wouldn't know, I've not paid a dime for electricity since I went off the grid in '80. SUck it up, wage slave - you made your deals with the devil, oil and power companies. I opted out.
I've not paid a dime for electricity since I went off the grid in '80
So how many mpg does a shopping cart get anyway?
Try selling your VOLT.....tell me what comes back. In my industry, there's a bid and an ask. I can bet your spread is so wide..........why, you could drive a VOLT through it!
No plans to sell it. I love the car. Since volume on this excellent piece is so low due to the silly hate propaganda, it'll be a collectors item by the time I do anyway.
That is until they make it illegal to be 'off grid'. It's a stretch to say the local electric cooperative wants you to produce any of your own electricity, their 'agreement' for grid-tie is totally one sided and restrictive. If you don't use a licensed electrician and a contractor for installation you better forget it entirely. Try building a home without power. Most communities condemn any structure without power and water and/or forbid you to occupy it. You won't even get a permit for building or for a well until you have power in place. You might have have beaten them for the time-being, but if they ever decide they don't want you to be independent, all your guns and know-how just make Waco Part Deux a foregone conclusion. Of course at that point it probably won't be worth existing anyways...let's hope that takes a while.
Everything you say is true, sadly. I pulled it of by going to the fairly far boonies, where the government is kinda tiny and it took them quite a few years to even figure out I was here. All my buildings on campus are taxed as "barns". But I actually create jobs and bring money into the county, so they overlook me. That's a big difference between a city and the country - good ol boy deals.
I've not paid a dime for electricity since I went off the grid in '80
Such a statement is completely useless, unless you tell us
- how do you produce your electricity
- what is your peak production capacity
- what is your average production per month
- do you store electricity and how large is that storage capacity
- what are your running costs per kWh
- what were your investment costs to get all the equipment
- what are your maintenance and repair costs so far
Then we can talk the haven't paid a dime over, one more time.
I produce my electricity off mostly Solar, but have a water wheel and windmill too that sometimes kick in. For worst case issues, I have a backup generator, which I've since replaced with the Volt itself, since it makes nearly double the KwH/gallon compared to anything else you can buy. It's one hell of a well engineered thing. For once the ignorant MBAs at GM didn't get in the way.
Peak production isn't real meaningful, since my batteries can push out some huge peaks, limited mainly by my inverters, which would be about 300 amps at 240v if you really pushed it. I have about 10kw of solar panels.
My production per month is whatever I need. I don't use most of what I could. I don't have grid wires within a mile, and they are such shitheads there's no point selling them power at 1/10 what they want to sell it to you for. It's mostly solar, so I get perhaps nearly twice in deep summer as I get in deep winter. Fine, I don't use electric heat, but I do use electric A/C.
I store about 30kwh in batteries, not counting the car, which is about another 10kwh usable. I've integrated the car into the home system.
I don't know my costs per kWH, because my oldest (over 30 years) panels are still in use and still putting out full power. Made by Solarex (amoco then, now BP but BP quit the business, stupid). I've used up two generators at around $300 each, and one set of batteries at about $5k in that time.
Maintenance and repair? Virtually none. Change oil in a generator, replace it if it wears out. Put water in batteries twice a year or so. Scrape snow off the panels if I need power and it hasn't fallen off yet. If you're the power company, you do have a job, make no mistake, but it's not much of a job.
I sense that a lot of this is sour grapes and guilt because this really was a smart thing I did - it's really working out well, and you all feel bad because you didn't have the discipline to do it - you wanted someone else to build out the infrastructure for you and rent it to you cheap. But as you're finding out, electricity and gasoline are deals with the devll, who can keep you enslaved to wages forever and who have complete control over price and availability.
But I don't care, be jealous and make up lies and hate all you want - I'm free, you ain't.
Really? Cuz actually I feel pretty free just paying the power company $100 a month and spending my time with my wife and kids instead of fucking around maintaining a bunch of solar panels, batteries, and generators.
You're a funny kind of poster. Not sure if this is just a pretty well made up story of yours.
Showing off on 10 kW solar panels and being a millionaire, but tiptoeing around the cost of all your solar panels and 30 kWh battery capacity, while in minute detail listing generators at $300 each...
Can't speak for the Volt as I own a Leaf but my electricity rate is 4c/kwh in summer and 5c/kwh in Winter and I get about 3 miles / kwh (with fast freeway driving and hills). That's 75 miles/$ in the summer which = 300 miles/gallon with gas at $4.
EVs bitches!
That was a Classic.
For a brief moment I thought the Nobel laureate was awarded the electric chair for his crimes against mankind.
No, you need killerwatts for that.
Breaking News from CNBC
Jim Cramer is flummoxed!
Up next: Sun rises in the east.
barliman
The next advancement of the Volt (the Chevy Coalt) is already oin the works. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRT9dxq9Dwk
Forget the electric altogether, just go coal/steam directly!
Awesome :)
There you go people...
As one article recent dubbed it, Plateau Oil is here. In other words, it is only a matter of time before it is all downhill...
The passenger car is soon going to be a luxury. The people here piss on the Volt, rightly or not, who knows... But the Volt represents an attempt to keep BAU... You know what? There will not be BAU, no electric car will ever be competitive with an ICE car on price for comparable size and performance.... And this is now becoming abundantly clear to the cornucopians...
The Volt is a perfect metaphor for the end of the oil age...So while all of you are pissing on the Volt, just remember what it represents, a desperate attempt to further the American Dream of Suburbia....
Wow, someone gets it right, Flakmeister! I have mine in a very rural area, but it has enough pure electric range for my needs. I'm loving it, but there's no escaping that a car that carries two complete drivetrains is going to cost a lot more than a car with just the one - and the limits of just the one, it's not like you don't get anything extra for the money with a Volt, which I'm about to drive to the polls so I can vote for Ron Paul. It's going to be fun blasting up the mountain on the twisty roads between there and here - it's one fun car on a twitchy road with hills and hairpins.
If you vote for RP, you're okay in my book even if you do drive a Chevy.
Just got back from voting for RP, even if I did drive a Chevy up there. Got to do some demo burnouts for the crowd (largely also RP people) while I was up there, that was fun. They did make some trouble about it - they claimed they'd just done an emergency drill and pulled all the voting machines (ugh, winvote) out of the building. I made a stink and waited for them to come back from whatever hacking they were doing to remove all the previous RP votes from them, I suppose.
Since you're such a bleater... Let's do some fun math here...
#1 When did you buy it
#2 How much did you pay (tax included)
#3 How many miles have you driven thus far
#4 Please add in all maintenance costs as well
Hey, was that story about the 14 year old that built the fusion core true?
Can you take it off road? Does it haul firewood? Can you tow anything behind it?
I use a truck or tractor for those, usually, but the inverter I installed in the Volt does run the electric chainsaw just dandy - and unlike the Stihl's and Huskies, it's light and quiet, while really eating the wood. There are people crazy enough to have put a tow hitch on one (the horsepower is there for it) but that's kinda not what this is all about.
That's the beauty of having choices. I do not want to have to rent a truck or van when I need a truck or van. A sedan would never work for my family of six, and I'll always have at least one SUV or truck for many reasons. My diesel may run on bio fuel though, so don't get me wrong. I'm not against the idea of alternatives to gasoline entirely!
Ummm... didn't GM just lay off 1,300 volt workers and shut down production? There was an article on ZH just yesterday about that.
Yep... and why is that at odds with my claim that BAU is over?
What it boils down to is that the people that can currently afford an electric car as a rule don't really care about the price of gas...
The lifetime cost an electric car compared to the cost of gasoline car cannot be justified by the price of gas for the vast majority of drivers...
Fastforward to when gas is ~$15 a gallon and, more likely, of limited availibility, the electric will win out, but only the very well to do will have them because of their cost...
Ironically, at that point the majority will be limited to a 20 mile radius by a combination of gas price and or availibility, or, about the current range of an electric....
Wow, junk ratio of 1:5 and not a single counter argument....
Yep, ZH has become a bunch of fucking yahoos living in denial...
Too bad...
Flak any views on the build up around Angolan subsalt oil potental and its linkage to Brazil's similar structure; they are talking about 500 billion barrel potential. As well the whispers that it spills over big time into Namibia.
No views per se... but 500 billion sounds like Rex Tillerson's wet dream...
Even if it is 100 billion of recoverable oil, what does it change? 10-15 years to come on line, at best it helps hold the plateau or slow the decline....Recall that existing fields are declining at ~4-5% per annum, offshore fields even faster....It is only through heroic efforts is production kept at the current level... Forget about any dramatic increases....
LOL... Shrieking Chicken Littles such as yourself have been babbling since 1974- none of your "documentation" holds any water-
Here's a simple question for you-
When was the last time YOU were denied access to oil?
Uh.........
Go back to Al Gore- he misses the one person that still buys his bullshit.......
Actually, I am old enough to remember the gas rationing in the '70s...
Do you have anything better than a few empty ad hominems?
So how are we going to increase oil supplies going forward? I am all ears....
How about increasing the price to $10/gal? That should decrease consumption some more which would increase supplies.
Oh, so you want to implement a heavy gasoline tax.... How do you propose to offset the regressive nature??
It will not increase supply, it will decrease consumption though...
Maybe if some other regressive taxes are replaced by a big gasoline tax, that would offset it. And how about eliminating most of the military and decreasing everyone's tax bill accordingly? Europeans seem to manage without having $4 gasoline.
<<It will not increase supply, it will decrease consumption though...>>
That's nonsense. If the same amount of fuel is produced, but only half as much is consumed there should be plenty of fuel available. The big problem would be where to store it.
If ethanol was replaced by butyl alcohol, that should help increase supply too. Or maybe someone could figure out how to drill for the abiotic oil under the Gulf of Mexico without killing all the fish and birds?
Wow...
Yes, Europeans seem to do fine... have you ever lived in Europe? Do you understand why they seem to do fine??
You clearly do not understand supply and demand... Supply has not increased, if anything production would decrease to match lower demand....
If abiotic oil was real, why would you drill for it in the GOM? Wouldn't it be cheaper to drill on land??
Yes and yes.
It is you that doesn't seem to understand supply and demand.
One drills for abiotic oil where it's known to exist, stupid. Some places it's closer to the surface than others. In the GOM it's only about 7 miles down. The Russians could give you some ideas where to look also. It may be cheaper to drill on land, but then the Anglo-American oil companies that you shill for might have to admit to some of their bullshit. It's more profitable to just stick to their peak-oil-is-now story and since it's so rare, pay us more.
You clearly haven't thought this through have you....
Why is abiotic oil not being extracted and sold into strong prices? That is how you make real money....especially when you are a minor player in world supply which the anglo-american companies are...
While we are at it, could you give me a lecture on the C13/C12 isotope ratios observed in nature?
Oh, compare the depth of Macando to the data here,
http://pubs.usgs.gov/dds/dds-067/CHB.pdf
Finally, I have tired with sparring with you, you are a dogmatic fool whose logic is inconsistent... You are ignorant to your own ignorance....
I take it as a compliment that you think I am an industry shill.... even if it is incorrect...
Ta ta
feralsmurf.....your ass is in the wind with this abiotic thing.
you smell like trollmeat to me. i do not understand why FlakM has decided to take your bait........( cant you smell it? ), but i insist you must be stoogematerial because the only other conclusion is you believe the drivel you're throwing out. WHICH, if is in fact da case, do please to continue.....its better when its not intentional like million$$$ and hamy
everyone that went to school knows that soviet scientists threw the abiotic bone to their benefactors(the state)so as not to be delivering bad news, which would have been a risky, dangerous move on their part. talk about a 'conspiracy' que?
everyone that went to indoctrination school knows is more accurate. Most people, even those that went to school, don't even know what "abiotic" means.
I used to believe the PTB story about biotic oil. Then along came the Titan probe, some western publication of the Russian abiotic theory and evidence that it was true, and then the Deepwater Horizon's last stand. I then began to doubt the exclusively-biological-origin-of-oil religion.
There's also the Russians' success of actually producing oil from calcium carbonate. (You could legitimately argue that calcium carbonate has a biological origin.)
It's also become clear to me that TPTB uses oil as a means to control and tax the proletariat and the bourgeoisie. They thus have a motive to maintain their biotic oil religion among the people. It's been rumoured that some engineers and organic chemists in the petroleum industry are also (quietly) wondering if the Russians might be right as well.
How can you be so sure abiotic is not being sold into these "high prices" (they're really only nominally high) by the Russians?
The conservative position:
http://www.americanconservativedaily.com/2008/02/abiotic-oil-theory-the-...
I vaguely remember the rationing of the 70s. There was a 5 gallon limit, IIRC, and that odd/even day thing that had something to do with your licence plate number. Can't remember how that worked.
Because your statement is stupid in its absoluteness.
gonna become a luxury
Define luxury for us. You won't be able to drive that much around for fun?
Or no middle class person can afford one anymore?
That's what ZH looks like from the outside, yeah. You should see what is said about this on some other boards. I'll refrain from linking them to allow the sheeple here to continue in their hypocrisy, though. You think because you're a brown sheep instead of a white one, it makes you not a sheep? (not you FM). Hah.
I didn't junk you, but if you want a counter arguement:
<<. . . no electric car will ever be competitive with an ICE car on price for comparable size and performance.>>
How do you know technology will never make an electric car competitive with an ICE powered car? I can imagine an infrastructure where electric cars receive their power from the road. Granted the highway infrastructure would be expensive, but if the same effort and expense was made as in the current system, it might not necessarily be more expensive since the cars could follow each other much more closely since they would be able to communicate with the system. Batteries in the cars would only be necessary for the short distances one was away from the electrified highway system.
Ok, so there actually does exist an electrical car in use which has been in use for over a century. Its called..... THE STREETCAR.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_streetcar_conspiracy
What a streetcar system might look like:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto_streetcar
ah, desire
xcuse me for self promotion, but this chart :
http://www.tfmetalsreport.com/comment/132799#comment-132799
is unbelievably accurate during the late peak un current silver selloff (see the little triangle peak around March 1st, green chart) and its source chart (longterm silver prediction chart where I copy it from):
http://saposjoint.net/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=2626&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=680#p34623
was made on October 17th, 2011. The older one, from March 13th, 2011 (red chart) does not look bad either. Interesting to see how close it will be to spot price on its yearly anniversary on March 13th, 2012.
All prediction charts can be found here: http://www.tfmetalsreport.com/forum/2814/ivars-charts
What a piece of work ...
"Selling a machine that is less capable for $15k more."
That's like GM mission statement.
That and "25 cents of every dollar you spend with us ends up in a democratic coffer".
Awwww!
It's NOT about Obama and Ol' Sparky...
I thought I saw Obama's last personal car up for auction on eBay? It was a big Chrysler with all the bells and whistles including that fuel sipping HEMI engine. About 15 mpg.
I didn't do this but it is perfecto...
Fantastic William.
But the second caption should be:
Der Voltswagen
Damn right it should!!
I think you're being unduly hard on both Volkswagen and Hitler.
But that's just my opinion.
LOL...
At least the beetle was a succes....
And not because it was powerful or reliable or clean, but because it was cheap, and designed so the end user could do all maintenance and repairs himself, rather than going to the dealer all the time. Oh Volkswagen, how far you have fallen ...
I had a 1971 Beetle in college and graduate school.
I bought it used (40,000 miles) for $1,000. I took good care of it, drove it to 120,000 miles and sold it for $900. I still see that model year on the road in Hong Kong.
Not really in the first couple years - they started out as dogs.
Can you do one with Khrushchev and a trabant?
A volt in every garage.....one solution to the current glut of houses and the creation of a new boom for new home construction.....may want to be short home insurers....
Can we give Obama a Chevy Volt in his severance package on November 6, 2012?
The AMC Gremlin was a better car:
http://www.amx-perience.com/74Gremlin1024x768.jpg
Wrong.
Bad example. Unless you liked the vacuum windshield wipers, the primitive transmission, lousy brakes and the derisive laughter from people seeing you driving it. That was an ugly car only exceeded by the Pacer. Now the Marlin, that was a cool car.
Better than what, a Zaporozhye?
the good thing about owning a Volt, is its highly unlikely you will ever be carjacked
good one
Especially since mine does have the gun rack - and some are loaded.
The ones next to the rainbow sticker?
The ones next to the IPSC champion and NRA life member stickers.
I was hoping Obama would stick his tongue to the charging port to make sure it was still working.
The Youtube version was taken down for copyright violation. That's how the facists roll.
Just call Obama 'Voltman'...the new super hero! Look at him go...
Plus it runs on coal electricity so the tail pipe emissions are out of site out of mind and therefore don't exist. Not as good as getting a net loss in energy and depleting valuable food and water resources like the goverment ethanol progam but still a good step forward in waste and inefficency. Half time in Amerika my ass. We are spiking the football on this one!
http://youtu.be/9LyYD166ync
DRIVE DAT BOLT PUT A RUBBER (FREE ON IT) ITS MY RIGHT.
That's a good one, but Obama is at least fighting back enough that we aren't bombing Syria or Iran yet, and the big banks are jostling to get Romney in. It could be worse if Romney wins or MCcain would've won...the big banks and jews finally decided maybe its not a good idea having a (foreign-born) muslim in the White house (remember what happened w/ Michael Jackson)
Obama fighting back? Seriously? He can't kill people fast enough. He probably drinks a shot with every predator drone kill he watches on camera.
dude give Obama a break bc u know as good as i do he ain't in charge of shit he's just an uncle tom that was instrumental in passing TARP or something but if he is a muslim (& not sure that he is or isn't) but if he is then Obama might just fight back like Michael Jackson did after he became a Muslim its a slight possibility he might shake it off and resist his handlers
He is a murderer and a war criminal. The end.
what r u talking about I thought Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize? but seriously how is he a murderer if he's not the one calling the shots then he isn't responsible
Stop playing with children that wear funny hats in their avatar.
Like members of the armed forces, he murders and does war crimes because he's ordered to. At Nuremberg this was not considered a valid excuse, but they didn't prosecute the bombardier of the Enola Gay. So apparently there's a difference, like it depends on whose side you're on. Barry's on TPTB's side. He's their boy, their tool, their n*.
obamamobile runs on gas when needed runs on bs when needed ala coal fired powerplant he says he hates.
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Come on, mates. The Obama administration and the Chevy Volt have been facing some unexpected headwinds. Give 'em a chance...just four more years...you'lll see how they turn things around for all of us.
half time in america
Too bad the American worker is too stupid and lazy to keep the President's promises for him. The reason the factories left the United States is because of shoddy labor like this.
And you want to sell me an electric Smart Car for $45K plus plus plus?
How about cash for volts? 50% off would make it affordable. Obama gonna buy me a volt... Dopes and your change (as opposed to hope and change).
Volt...rhymes with?...d..
ReVolt coming soon...
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Yes, I smell something burning...