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Hard Landing - "Pride Of China" Fighter Jet Nosedives Into Field During Airshow
A few days ago we brought you the delightful Chinese boat launch straight into the river bottom. Today, we observe the curious case of the JH-7 "Flying Leopard" which during an exhibition airshow decided to show just how effective gravity is at combating those pesky "highly reliable license-built Spey Mk202 engines" which as the AP reports were "considered unlikely that both would have stalled at the same time"...They stalled. "The Chinese-made JH-7 entered service in 2004 and is a mainstay of the country's air force and naval aviation, with more than 100 built." Also, how do you spell oops in Mandarin? "China rarely released information about military accidents, but the public nature of the crash and the rapid spread of images of it happening on the Internet made it impossible to keep secret." Yeah, sorry about that. Next: we can't wait to see the official launch of the first (and only) Chinese aircraft carrier.
h/t Manal
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It's quite interesting that the learning curve is rather long when you can't steal the underlying technology. If one assumes that the development phase is as short as, say "borrowing" the tech behind a phone, then hard lessons are learned all around.
Again. In a war vs China bring it on. I stopped going to China Store...sorry, Walmart, because their crap always breaks. They will be ok as long as they dont have to attack twice.
O.k., so let's play WEST! With all them SHIPS and PLANES and stuff ...
Americans developing military machines are infamous for mishaps and accidents and especially cost overruns and awful maintenance to use ratios. Like F-14 was, 50 maintenance hours per one flight hour, that must be a world record :) Even M16 is a piece of high-maintenance shit.
I have been in combat with both the M-16 and M-14 and can tell you that the M-16 is definitely not a "piece of high-maintenance shit".
The original was recalled from th jungles of Vietnam after field testng because it was unreliable and constantly jamed getting soldier killed. They fixed the issues and the rest is history.
That test run went down rather well.
When can we expect them on the shelves here at WalMart???
Hopefully B4 Christmas...
Those aircraft have been banned from wal mart due to toxic lead paint.
The chinese were also really upset that they couldnt find additional uses for melamine on those jets.
RIS ISH BURRISH!! ROR
This is an economic boon! Crappy technology = planes repeatedly destroyed = jobs to replace the planes = Keynesian wet dream.
ZH is on fire today
Somehow, Iranians throwing their sandals at us seems like a more legitimate threat this week.
Nobody gets it. It was merely a demonstration to show how well the ejection seat works.
I reiterate my point. China is a land of cheap copies.
heluva air show, brownie!
People dont understand how close to the bone they live in china.
Terrible, fragmented healthcare
Virtual slave wages and labor
Extreme pollution
No safety standards
Food insecurity on a significant scale.
Massively underwater banks. The worst in the world.
If the usa is close to the edge, then china is barely hanging on by their fingernails.
If they dont buy our debt then there is massive unemployment as they spend their dollars instead on industrial commodities, raising the price so high that chinese business margins are wiped out.
China has to be our ass boy for ben to fuck whenever we want. Maybe in thirty years things will be different....maybe....
China could easily push the price of gold to 20,000 dollars, then when their capital is exhausted the price drops to ten thousand, a huge loss.
China cannot just do whatever they want. They will destroy themselves before they destroy us. You have not seen a labor riot until you see a hungry labor riot. China is much closer to hunger than we are.
i suspect more are unexpectedly soon to learn how close to the bone they are going to be living here.
Which is exactly what I think the whole EU-US hot potato game is all about. Seemingly random tremors and subsequent bailouts in the name of preserving the status quo which are truly intended on pushing China over the edge (via internal implosion). Cold war crap... still going strong.
Wow! Look how close he came to hitting that pile of U.S. Treasury Bonds! Almost a hole-in-one!
Best news I've heard all year.
In China there is a saying when nothing can be done, "Mei Ban Fa."
It roughly translates in to nothing can be done, it can't be helped. You use it when there is something stupid that has occurred and you are just caught up in it. When you go to the hotel in which you reserved a suite 3 months ago and they tell you that they lost your reservation, you get the phrase.
When I look at all of this crap happening over there I just remember "Mei ban fa!"
Mei Wan Tee
Xin Loi.
Not sure which of these videos would best predict the aircraft carrier launch. Both funny:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEaMdUFS750
and of course, Bugs Bunny (esp. around 6:50) www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcRVEpYKU_8
Hey, come on. More than 98% of the mission was successful.
Their fighter planes may crash, their boats might sink, but so far, they can still provide food for their families. Something Americans are having a hard time saying they can accomplish.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/more-americans-chinese-t-put-food-ta...
Maybe their tanks can fly.
Pull up Fright Reeder, UP, UP, the OTHER UP! Great Reaping Rizards!
Ouch!
And with this, the Chinesse move into competition with Airbus and Boeing for commerical aircraft. If it says made in China, I will not get on the flight. They do not have the sofistication in manufacturing required they are simply good at copying what others have spent years perfecting. That is the product, not the technology.
LOL the aircraft carrier they are going to launch is a scrapped Russian design they bought! We will see how that works out and it is a VTOL carrier as well.
VTOL is extremely complicated and dangerous technology even for real militaries.
We take out all their military satellites. They cant find our stealth satellites. Then we knock out that rusting tub whenever we feel like it.
Just as funny as those pre war movies of the Japanese Air Force, you know, the guys with the coke bottle eye glasses that couldn't find John Wayne? The ones that swept the Pacific after Pearl Harbour.
Yeah, those Rising Sun air force guys were some bad mofos, fo' sure. The Zero was only the best fighter plane on the planet, and the foolish blundering Americans had to make do with the aircraft equivalent of Model T's. AND, the Jap navy featured the most technologically advanced carriers in the world, as well as the biggest (by far) battleship: The Yamato. Then they got in a good hard 15-year scrimmage against the fearsome Mongolians, and the mighty Koreans, and the savage unarmed civilains of Nanking, etc. (Google 'Unit 731' sometime.)
Unhindered by such sissyfied things as "Declarations of War", they just kicked USA ass and took names - for about 6 months or so. Say, how'd that work out for them in the end?
The Jap Zero made by Mitsubishi was a German design that the nazis gave to Japan. There is a lot of Focke Wulf in that plane. Sort of like an FW without any armor aka a flying gas can.
The FW-190 on the other hand was a bad mo fo.
I am not taking away anything from the USN and brave American sailors but I saw old picktures of the Yorktown, etc. They don't look like the movie Midway. They look like old tanker/freighter ships with a landing deck added. I think the US battle ships and heavy cruisers were the most advanced. The Navy aircraft was pretty bad until the Corsair and then it was game over. Still the old US Navy planes took them out at Midway with the loss of a lot fo brave American pilots and crew.
"Also, how do you spell oops in Mandarin?"
I though it was "bang da ho"
Keep in mind that this is not exclusive to Chinese jet figheter.
The coolest thing is that pilot ejection 200 feet off the ground under enormous G-force. That's awesome.
Another BAILOUT?
We are flaming dragon!
Perhaps the poor leopard couldn't quite cut through the pristine air....
Remember Ordos, the ghost city? Now developers there are joining their Wenzhou brothers and committing suicide or running away.
http://english.caixin.cn/2011-10-14/100314297.html
lol chiwanese can crash aircraft and blow up satelites
Suprised the ejection seat and parachute worked.
You Americans shouldn't laugh. Your standard of living is doing the same thing as did the plane...
I am sure yours is to. Its pathetic all around.
Here's some footage of the Challenger disaster in 1986.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aNCLBA771w
Some of the seven crew survived the blast and were alive all the way down, until they hit the ocean.
Let's see some hilarious remarks from the posters above!
Before all else, be armed.
For among other evils caused by being disarmed, it renders you contemptible; which is one of those disgraceful things which a prince must guard against.
-Niccolo Machiavelli
Can I have account for posting ZH article like Tyler? I have plenty of US planes having a hard landings including 2 boeings hitting 2 tall towers in the safest city in the word New York. That's more spetacular than I thought, isn't it?
Hey, don't be so nasty. 9/11 is a shrine to Americans, almost like a religion. Big bad boogeyman pierced their shiny virgin armor. That is why they are shooting full 360 degrees in hopes of getting somebody, anybody somewhere.
Like in Vietnam, 50 000 bullets per one enemy killed. That is why Vietnamese are getting rich by mining LEAD nowadays :)
Thanks for the reminder. It reminds me of the squard who killed Osama Bin Laden also had a plane crashed and all of them dead for no reasons.
I feel sorry for them, but I thought Americans care about themselves more than the Chinese
People! People! Can we both agree that both the Chinese and the American's are shit.
In all honesty American and Russian technology (and the Chinese copies of those copies) would be shit if they did not steal German blueprints and scientists after World War II. Maybe there is something to Eugenics after all.
Deutschland!
über alles?
It is not the same moron. The Chinese pilot ejected and was probably fine. I doubt people would be joking if he failed to get out of the plane.
"planes, trains, and boats, bitchez: chinese style"
-- the sequel to Planes, Trains, and Automobiles
Fuck China.
"Chawengah! Frying Reapard heah! Horee sheet! Engine fairule! Glavity taking ovah! Pirots erect now flom fryig reapard! Wha you say? Amelicans no put erection seats in Chawengah? So solly!!!
they probably stole the ejection seat mechanism from Aston Martin
that poor chimpy chimp musta be weally scaired
This aircraft was Made in China... Oh wait, you didn't think that the aircraft was a durable good did you?
Fuk Yoo!
us airmen always say they have perfect record. they have never left one up there. china is catching up. on our dime. we pay for both airforces
Chinas ICBMs are capable of striking the US
Chinese ICBMS will go up, and come down, on China.
Anybody else on this list a pilot?
It's the airshow, dummy. The most dangerous words in aviation ="Watch This!"
Russian airshow: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsekqge84ZU
(84 people killed)
The Russians in England: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZ6bwylElsw
The Russians in Paris: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YL1FblthxQ0
Itialians do it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoWKoiE0hi4
(67 spectators and 3 pilots died)
And the US: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE3l3mEM9-4
There are lots more on You Tube, alas = Top Gun military pilots flying hot iron for an audience (or not - an entire 4-aircraft flight of Air Force Thunderbirds went in during practice a few years back).
Even Canadians do it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDBVoLg4onA
Doesn't matter how good, or not, the technology if you are low and fast and showing off for the taxpaying public - the pilot is right on the hairy edge, with zero room, zero hedge for error...
Doubt very much this crash had anything to do with technology, or lack of it.
Personally, I'm glad the pilot of the Chinese craft got out. Suspect he is in a SHITLOAD of trouble with his command...
NATO nickname? The Flounder. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Seems to me that AMERICAN jets seem to crash at Air shows too.
good to see the ejection seat worked, poor chimp
Not as stupid as the American who landed his plane full of ultra secret spy gear on a Chinese military base a couple years ago.
you mean after that no-flying opium toke ran into them midair?
Yes. Should have crashed it instead of handing all that stuff over. Whatever happened to him? Didn't even through codebooks and such out the window before landing. Supposed to have been a standard procedure.
Frying Reopard, crouching shitter.
I love that the "pride of China" is what appears to be a rehash of a Su-24 that was first designed in 1967 by the Russians - way to advance! I think the NATO name is more appropriate, the "Flounder".
I think people are making fun of it because:
1. The pilot got out.
2. We hate corrupt kleptocratic police state govts - China, US, EU, Iran, Zimbabwe (Obama's model), Chavez, et al. The RedChina thug army politicians treat their people like shit as does our Fed Reserve liberral shit Dem scum and RINO elites.
3. The commie Chinese govt arrogant shit about superiority crap. I don't blame those commies for hating our commies - the muslim african illegal, Bernank, Geithner. We cannot stand them either.
The more modern Russian design are pretty hot planes. No jokes there cause their modern stuff is pretty damn good. I respect the Russians more than the Chinese.
Maybe the carburetor froze up. Or the mild, super-lo-carbon steel turbine blades shattered. Or the copied blueprints were copied backwards.
Ah so Comrade, we must push back pran for taking over Araska, oh, Outer Outer Mongoria, very much. Send engineers back to Cahr Tech, oh oh
A pencil in the carburetor worked for Tony Danza.
Haha, silly Chinese - Leopards cant fly!
I expect the pilot that ejected safely has already disappeared into a dark dungeon somewhere for failure to execute his superior's orders.
Looks like we finally put HAARP to some good use (should that be HAALP?)
Ah! "My fry-by-wire gone ping!"
the squirrels got out their cage
A plane that cannot fly. How very Chinese!
You can copy planes but you can't copy BRAINS!!!!!!
Obviously, the intakes got clogged with smog. I mean look at the photo, you can hardly see the smoke plume through the smog.
You don't even need a fuel system in China, just build a ramjet, there are plenty of free hydrocarbons hanging out right there in the atmosphere.
Sorry to spoil the party but here're some facts.
JH-7 is a 3rd Generation fighter bomber. It is a pillar of China's air attack force currently, which is still in its infant phase. But to label it "Pride of China" sounds quite stupid. The one that crashed is one of the original test models, owned and operated by the flight test center. The ones in service are at least half a generation ahead. Available info indicate that it's a capable fighter bomber, with advanced fire-flight control etc, but outdated aerodynamic shape. Chinese naval air force likes it better than the Russian made Su-30 because it can launch all Chinese made missiles, is much cheaper, while "having essentially the same capacity." The last part is doubtful. JH-7 can launch BVR missiles, but would be dead in a dog fight against modern 4th Gen fighters; Su-30 at least has a chance in a dog fight.
Somehow the airshow got the flight test center to agree to send it over -- highly unusual considering its old age and experimental nature, and the fact that one service model crashed a couple of years ago during a joint exercise with Russia. It was doing low altitude, low speed turn, a risky manuver for a 30-ton, 3rd Gen fighter bomber not specialized for this part of the flight envelope. Then it appeared to stall suddenly. It's not clear what caused it, nor what type of engine it had. One pilot ejected, with the other (front) apparently going down with the plane.
Oh, BTW, the "first and only Chinese carrier" has been launched a few months ago. It was modified from the savaged, half-built Russian Varyag. And it was specifically labeled a "training vessel." They're well into the process of building the first, home-made carrier.
Now carry on showing your ugly minds and ignorance. You fuckers sound just like the stupid Red Guard assholes during Cultural Revolution. It's sad to see America's mind has shrunk and closed up like such.
WTF? We don't hate the chinese - we hate corrupt politicians and leaders. We know criminal scum who abuse their citizens - see the US, China, Venezuela, EU, Russia, Africa, Cuba, the list is almost endless.
We grow weary hearing how China is so great at everything. Yeah you can get a lot of cheap shit built with slave labor and when you treat your citizens like cattle. You must be dum fuk shill for Chinese Communist Party Leadership. The scum running China are no better than The Red Guard or Obama or The Fed or other criminal scum.
We also no like you shitty worthless stocks that go down in flames like that plane.
Just don't buy the cheap shit. Here's a remedy: pay higher price. Did China force you buy their cheap shit?
Where are you constantly hearing China is so great at everything? Consider diversifying your info source, along with your sourceof purchase from Wal Mart and your investment source from Chinese momentum stocks.
I live in So. NH aka Silicon Valley/Simi Valley North. Our area is crawling with PRC industrial spies, one family of 40-yr old "students" lives down the street. I just get a patriotic/Schadenfruede chuckle from the failure of their industrial espionage efforts. Ya know, we round-eye big-nosed ghost devils aren't quite as stupid as we look (especially guailo outside of the Ivy League/TBTF/moonbat circles)
Enjoy your patriotic chuckle and keep close patriotic watch on them all Chinese commies. Fucking yeah, USA! USA! USA!
It isn't a matter of "ugly minds and ignorance" at all.
This incident merely demonstrated, once again, that having slanted, squinty eyes makes one a bad pilot. (Not to mention a horrifically bad driver.)
And your reply demonstrates neanderthal genes makes one stupid stinky hairy motherfucking ass.
If the bad driving record fits .....
Just ask any objective observer in any West Coast city, most particularly in Vancouver, and they will tell you that Orientals are by far the worst drivers, hands down.
Now, back to work making those cheap plastic toys, chop chop!
I can take my slanted, squinty eyes and take you on on any fucking road.
Jesus fucking crhist. Some assholes are really more ignorant than I could imagine. Did you consider the possibility that the orientals in Vancouver on average have maybe 2 years driving expereince?
Another little effiminate oriental man with Caucasian penis-envy-driven insecurity.
How sad.
BTW, I was an essentially perfect driver after one or two months of experience. Those orientals flooding in to Canada, and especially Vancouver (a demographic timebomb for Canada, but quite another subject), have what as their excuse, after two years?
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What's sad is that someone has to resort persistently to generalization, no matter how ill-informed and wrong, to hold on to the last pathetic bit of self-confidence. Why don't we take your girlfriend/wife and let her be the judge?
OK, sorry, I have just been playing you here, as I do not have a racist bone in my body. I was just going for outrageous irony, and didn't mean to drag you into a serious confrontation.
Name one high quality world class product that was designed and made in chinkland.
"In an incident that is sure to have implications for old adages everywhere, a pilot on the Beijing to Washington run has proven that the shortest distance between two point is NOT a straight line."
After "the crash", stealth SAMs in the air show sold out.
Who built that fucking thing...
Boeing? Northrop Grumman? Lockheed Martin? McDonnell Douglas?
I just hope we don't see something similar with an A380 and a Brent 900 engine failure. I don't trust them, and a lot of people could die.
This is so bullish!! Look at how well the ejection seat worked. Buy buy buy...
"how do you spell oops in Mandarin?" I hope your fonts support the characters... Anyway:
??? Hao(3) diu(1) lian(3), or H?o di?li?n
Google translate says it means 'very shameful'; the literal translation is (good/very) (lose/throw away) (face).
Guess not, ha!