Propaganda, Lies, And War

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Submitted by James Miller from the Ludwig von Mises Institute of Canada

Propaganda, Lies, And War

If I asked what the cause of the American Civil War was, would your first answer be slavery?  Would it surprise you to know that slavery was only one grievance the South had with the Lincoln administration?

Up until the first bullet was fired on Fort Sumter, Abraham Lincoln had been leading a type of economic aggression to force the South into initiating the official version of the conflict.  When Lincoln ran for president, his platform was based on Henry Clay-inspired mercantilism where he promised to maintain a high protective tariff that would serve Northern industrial interests while impoverishing the South’s still predominantly agrarian economy.  This, of course, angered the South much like it did when John Quincy Adams imposed the same type of tariff in 1828 which lead to the Nullification Crisis.  With the Morrill Tariff, which increased the tax on dutiable imports by about 70%, put in place by President Buchanan two days before he left office, the South stood ready to secede.  After Lincoln’s inauguration, he began to maneuver the seceding South into firing the first shot by breaking a previously established agreement to not attempt to restock Fort Sumter.  He secretly sent troops the Fort which escalated into what turned out to be the bloodiest war in American history.  Lincoln’s close friend and confidante Senator Orville H. Browning would go on to write in his diary:

He told me that the very first thing placed in his hands after his inauguration was a letter from Major Anderson announcing the impossibility of defending or relieving Sumter.  That he called the cabinet together and consulted General Scott—that Scott concurred with Anderson, and the cabinet, with the exception of PM General Blair were for evacuating the Fort and all the troubles and anxieties of his life had not equalled (sic) those which intervened between this time and the fall of Sumter.  He himself conceived the idea, and proposed sending supplies, without an attempt to reinforce giving notice of the fact to Governor Pickens of S.C.   The plan succeed.  They attacked Sumter—it fell, and thus, did more service than it otherwise could.

Contrary to popular belief, the Civil War was not a fight over slavery but a fight over whether the South was allowed to secede from the union.  Lincoln thought war would rally the North behind his special-interest driven agenda.  The South sent numerous commissioners to Washington in the hopes of finding a peaceful solution to secession.  Lincoln ignored all of them.  As he stated in a letter addressed to Horace Greeley of the New York Tribune:

My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union.

So why is this version of the Civil War not taught in public schools?

It’s a simple answer when you consider the driving force of statism.

When Randolph Bourne opined “war is the health of the state,” he was referring to how war is used as a means to enlarge the authority of government over everyday life.  In times of war, the citizenry is told to sacrifice their material well being and freedom for the sake of winning the war and bringing the troops home.  Taxes are raised, central banks inflate, governments borrow massive amounts of money, and economic resources are confiscated to be used in the war effort.  War quickens the state’s march toward totalitarianism as it rallies the public into unquestioned obedience.  Love of country replaces love of self and family.  Mothers and fathers give up their sons (and now daughters) to fight in the state’s bloody crusade.  The heads of government who initiated the conflict don’t let their offspring go and fight.  Their pampered lifestyles usually don’t see the sacrifice taxpayers must endure.

Romanticized retellings of war assist in convincing the masses that the campaigns of murder carried out by political leaders were for the good of the nation.  It enshrines the state as a life-saving guardian to those fortunate enough to not meet a gruesome death on the battlefield.  In the case of the Civil War, Lincoln didn’t just save the union; he has forever made secession a nonviable solution to an overreaching Washington.  Lincoln’s war of northern aggression turned these united States of America into the United States of America.  It cost the equivalent of 6 million lives today for honest Abe to destroy the volunteerism which defined the union of the states in the decades that preceded the war.

Just as the Civil War was triggered by deceit, many of the wars or military conflicts of the past century have been fought based on the lies of a political class all too enamored with their own power and place in history.

Starting with World War I and Woodrow Wilson’s quest to “make the world safe for democracy,” the popularly spun tail is that America’s entering the conflict was in reaction to Germany sinking the supposedly innocent passenger vessel the Lusitania.  After German subs sunk the ship, thereby killing women and children, popular support reversed and was now in favor of war.  What wasn’t revealed immediately is that the Lusitania was really outfitted to carry armaments for the British.  This was a strategy developed by then First Lord of the Admiralty Winston Churchill to bait a German attack and bring America into the fight.  As classical liberal historian Ralph Raico writes:

The Lusitania was a passenger liner loaded with munitions of war; Churchill had given orders to the captains of merchant ships, including liners, to ram German submarines if they encountered them, and the Germans were aware of this. And, as Churchill stressed in his memoirs of World War I, embroiling neutral countries in hostilities with the enemy was a crucial part of warfare: “There are many kinds of maneuvres in war, some only of which take place on the battlefield. . . . The maneuvre which brings an ally into the field is as serviceable as that which wins a great battle.

Then there is the often neglected role big business, especially JP Morgan & Co, played in the propagandizing of the war.  As one of the largest creditors and underwriters to war bonds issued by the governments of Britain and France, it was in the best interest of the House of Morgan to guarantee the Allies won the war.   As the American economy drifted toward one of top-down command where government cartelized industry to ensure adequate munitions for war, big business was more than happy to play along as it meant stifling regulations placed on their small-time competitors and the opportunity to keep prices elevated.  This perverted form of capitalism would serve as a model to Western nations from the war’s end to the present day.   Murray Rothbard believed the first World War was really a victory for the fascist state:

More than any other single period, World War I was the critical watershed for the American business system. It was a “war collectivism,” a totally planned economy run largely by big-business interests through the instrumentality of the central government, which served as the model, the precedent, and the inspiration for state corporate capitalism for the remainder of the twentieth century.

The beginnings of World War II were engulfed by the same collusion of big business and government along with underhanded tactics to further chip away at the American public’s noninterventionist stance.  The Morgans still had their financial ties with Britain and France while the Rockefellers wanted war with Japan since the country competed for raw materials in Southeast Asia.  Both financial powerhouses lobbied for war early on.  After Franklin Roosevelt was reelected on the platform of keeping America a neutral party, he set about provoking a Japanese attack sometime around the summer of 1941.  This resulted in an oil embargo, the forceful limiting of exports, and freezing the country’s assets within the U.S.  It was the equivalent of an economic fatal wound to resource-poor Japan.  Not only that, but in recent years it has been confirmed that Roosevelt had prior knowledge of the Pearl Harbor attack and actually withheld key information from commanders at the naval base.  As Vice Admiral and aid to the Secretary of the Navy Frank E. Beatty noted at the time:

Prior to December 7, it was evident even to me… that we were pushing Japan into a corner. I believed that it was the desire of President Roosevelt, and Prime Minister Churchill that we get into the war, as they felt the Allies could not win without us and all our efforts to cause the Germans to declare war on us failed; the conditions we imposed upon Japan—to get out of China, for example—were so severe that we knew that nation could not accept them. We were forcing her so severely that we could have known that she would react toward the United States. All her preparations in a military way—and we knew their over-all import—pointed that way.

Following World War II, every conflict the U.S. has engaged in has been either to the benefit of wealthy special interests or in reaction to its own misguided policies.  The Cold War was a four decade long gift to the military industrial complex against a supposed world power that collapsed due to its state-run economy.  The various bombings and occupations of Middle Easter countries which followed have only served as excuses to not end the flow of money into the pockets of politically connected military contractors.  And the Iraq War, as everyone now knows, was based on the lie of Saddam Hussein possessing weapons of mass destruction.

One would think with such a rich history of political patronage in the death industry, Americans would be adamantly opposed to war.  Yet the usual players in Washington are once again pounding on the war drums in the name of spreading American values.  The target this time is Iran and at least one presidential candidate in this fall’s election has vowed to use military force on a nation that hasn’t bowed down and kissed Uncle Sam’s jackboot.  The problem is Iran has the hubris of refusing to be bullied around by the U.S.  Such an attitude undermines American imperialism in front of the rest of the world.   It must be stomped out by any means necessary.

And then there is the big financial push for an Iranian war going on behind the scenes.  The pro-Israel lobbying group, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, has been aggressively pushing for war and appealing to top lawmakers and the heads of Washington’s warmongering apparatus.  President Obama has already assured the flush lobbying group that “the United States will not hesitate to attack Iran with military force to prevent it from acquiring a nuclear weapon.”  Department of Defense Secretary Leon Panetta made the same promise.  Just last week, 44 Senators, including many Democrats, sent an AIPAC letter to the President urging him to consider military action if Iran continues with its nuclear program.  The letter essentially makes war the only option on the table as Glenn Greenwald of Salon points out:

This implication is clear: a military attack by the U.S. on Iran is at least justified, if not compelled, if a satisfactory agreement is not quickly reached regarding Iran’s nuclear program. At the same time, the letter itself virtually ensures no such agreement is possible because the conditions it imposes as the “absolute minimum” are ones everyone knows Iran will never agree to (closing the Fordow facility and giving up its right to enrich uranium above 5 percent).

Not only is the push for war bipartisan, but much of the media establishment has been devoid of criticism of the constant war rhetoric. Even though Israel has nukes of its own, many of its supporters portray the country as a weakling in dire need of assistance from the bully of the Middle East schoolyard.  Worse is the complete disregard of the fact that there is no actual evidence that Iran is concocting a nuclear weapon.  According to the CIA’s own National Intelligence Estimate of 2007, Iran put a stop to the development of nuclear weapons in the fall of 2003.  Other Western nations such as Germany, France, and Britain, deny the report’s conclusion.  Meanwhile Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has gotten impatient of the reluctance by the U.S. thus far to act militarily against Iran.  Like a good politician, he wants prestige without the dirty work.  That’s what America is for.

Despite already being engaged in drone wars in Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen, and still occupying Afghanistan, the U.S. is being duped into yet another war based on shaky evidence and at the behest of deep-pocketed special interests.  This is coming even while a secretive cyber war already being waged to damage Iran’s nuclear capability.  According to the Pentagon, “computer sabotage coming from another country can constitute an act of war.”  Not only that, but the draconian sanctions thus far placed on Iran are doing enormous harm to the citizens who hardly have a say in what their government does.  The Belgium-based SWIFT payment system that facilitates most international payments has already denied service to many Iranian banks.  With the imposing of an oil embargo from the European Union just around the corner (July 1st) that will all but make it impossible for oil tankers to be insured by Lloyd’s of London, an actual naval blockade is being floated by U.S. lawmakers.  Much like the Antebellum South and Japan, Iran too is being pushed into a corner.

What makes the campaign to extend the War on Terror to Iran is that the anti-American sentiment in the higher echelons of its government are only a consequence of previous meddling.  After Prime Minister Mohammed Mossadegh nationalized the oil industry in 1953, British Petroleum used the CIA to overthrow the popular leader and put the Shah back in power whose authoritarian rule would be financially supported by the U.S. up to the Islamic Revolution of 1979.

Then and now, wealthy special interests are a driving force behind American imperialism.  Lies will be spun till they are seen as facts.  When the truth comes out, the irreparable damage will already be done.  Like anything the state lays its filthy hands on, war is a racket.  The beneficiaries of the ruling class’s gleeful foray into mass murder are few in number.  The masses, still brainwashed into feverish nationalism, end up paying the costs with their pilfered income, eroded liberty, and, ultimately, their own lives.

As Major General Smedley D. Butler wrote in his seminal essay War Is A Racket

WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives.

A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of the people. Only a small “inside” group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few, at the expense of the very many. Out of war a few people make huge fortunes.

The only weapon against such an immoral system of mass murder and cronyism is to know the truth and to not fall ill with the fever of war.

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Atomizer's picture



One has to ask themselves, if all parties are exposing audits to review NPT treaty requirements. Why has Israel refused to sign the United Nations NPT [THE TREATY ON THE NON-PROLIFERATION OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS] agreement? Who is funding Israel financial aid? Why do they refuse to sign this NPT agreement? Are the Central Planners creating a snitch to report propaganda? Does this snitch have immunity to create his own defense tools, while blaming others of speculative violations?


Commonsense always prevails when standing in front of a group of narcissistic characters.  

Israel rejects call to join anti-nuclear treaty

UN Security Council permanent members back nuclear-free Mideast U.S., Russia, Britain, France and China voice support for 'full implementation' of nuclear non-proliferation treaty.


Forming my question again, why has Israel not signed the NPT treaty? If the middle east is to remove nuclear weapons, why hasn’t Israel allowed an audit to its facilities? Bankers are silently hoping that the 24/7 nonstop public threat will trigger a handsome gambling bet gain at the expense of others.

Hypothetically, if we ran a bet on how many bankers would still be living till the end of the year. We would be considered financial terrorist gaining on a small few who would be removed to help our climate change agenda. I think you understand the picture. Look forward to your insight.

Divine Wind's picture

"Forming my question again, why has Israel not signed the NPT treaty?"


I'll bite.

It is really very simple.

- From day one, Israel has been shit on.

- They are surrounded by a nations who have have sworn their demise.

- Geographically they are a tiny country compared to their neighbors.

- They have comparatively small population next to the totality of their enemies, which seems to be the world.

- They have learned to NEVER trust their safety and security to larger nations who offer protection.

- They want to leave their options open.

- They have been shucked, jived, manipulated, back-stabbed so many times by the UN members that signing the NPT would naturally lead to louder calls for them to completely give up their weapons.

Why create further problems just to fit in with a group of countries who spit on them whatever chance they get?

Why show a world full of enemies a schedule of armaments and capabilities?

Fuck that.


The Jews are cool. They are also extraordinary people. Get to know one. Then you will understand why.


How is that for the start of an answer?



peter4805's picture


Someone who understands the situation Israel is in.

falak pema's picture

a true crusader state of did that end? 

WTFx10's picture

Fuck Israel. I like jews but America going to WAR to protect them go fuck yourself. These terrorists have ignored every UN resolution placed against them. Why can they not obey but every other country must.

This country is a festering boil on the ass of earth.

1967: The treatment of the Palestinians by the Zionist Jews, finally ignites enough anger in the Arab world for Egypt, Jordan and Syria to mobilise on Israel's borders.  All of these three countries are suddenly attacked by Israel and as a result the Sinai which included Gaza was stolen from Egypt, and the West Bank and the Jordan River stolen from Jordan.

As a result of this, on June 8, the Israelis launch an attack on the USS Liberty with Israeli aircraft and motor torpedo boats, in an effort to blame it on Egypt, to bring America into the war on their side, and of course follow to the letter, their Mossad motto,

"By Way Of Deception,
Thou Shalt Do War."

As a result of their attack, 34 American servicemen were killed and 174 wounded.  Israel lies as usual, claiming it mistook this warship that was flying a large United States flag, for an ancient out-of-service Egyptian horse carrier El Quseir, that was 180 feet shorter.  They also claim the ship was in the war zone, when it was actually in international waters, far from any fighting.  The Israeli's attack on this warship lasts for 75 minutes during which time they shoot up one of the United States flags, resulting in the sailors desperately raising another one.

In the aftermath of this attack, the American sailors who survived are warned by the United States military not to discuss the matter with anyone due to, "national security."  This story gets no prominence in the Rothschild controlled mainstream media and as usual Israel is in no way even rebuked for their crimes by their subservient country of America.

The following day, June 9th, Israel illegally occupies the Golan Heights which it seizes from Syria. This area goes on to provide Israel with one third of its fresh water.

Israeli General Matityahu Peled, is quoted in Ha'aretz (19 March 1972) with the following statement,

"The thesis that the danger of genocide was hanging over us in June 1967 and that Israel was fighting for its physical existence is only bluff, which was born and developed after the war."  Another sickening and deceptive statement but again at least he's consistent with the Mossad motto, "By Way Of Deception, Thou Shalt Do War."

de Rothschild Frères is renamed Banque Rothschild

Fuck israel

I like jews too just NOT the LYING, STEALING Organized Criminal Jew and most people awake know who they are. Criminals are criminla no matter what race, nationality, or that peace loving religious bullshit every wants to kill each over about. They are still criminals.

Hows that from an American perspective?


dexter bland's picture

"I like jews too just NOT the LYING, STEALING Organized Criminal Jew and most people awake know who they are."

Yeah they're the one's who aren't dead, right?

These terrorists have ignored every UN resolution placed against them. Why can they not obey but every other country must."

Perhaps because such a disproportionate amount of UN resolutions are about them, they're still busy implementing the bureaucratic procedures to manage the processes. Seriously they could all spend their time meticulously responding to the diplomatic attacks of the failed states (and religions) that surround them, not to mention the millions of misguided and/or bigoted from the rest of the world - or they could just get on with building a thriving democracy, economy, and contributing to the technological, scientific and cultural progress of the larger world. 

my puppy for prez's picture

If your comment is not that of a paid shill and is genuine, then I would suggest that you are making the same mistake that most do when trying to infer that the government of Israel, the Mossad, the Israel lobbies, the Orthodox rabbinical class, all Zionists, etc. are no different than the common Jews you know.  THEY ARE EXTREMELY DIFFERENT!

The Zionist powers are committed to Talmudic law, which is inherently racist, pedophelic, hostile to humanity, and bloodthirsty.

Don't believe me?  There are plenty of good Jews who have bravely come out and exposed the very dark side of the State of Israel, and they have paid the price for it in one way or another.  Did you hear that?!  Jews speaking out against Zionism!

And why is it that, in Israel, the Sephardic Jews are treated very poorly by the Ashkenazi-controlled state?  And Messianic Jews (who accept Christ) are treated even worse, often experiencing violence and abuse.  Why is it that Orthodox priests cannot go into certain parts of cities without being spit on by Jews?  Do you not see anything wrong with that picture?

And give me a break with the "poor little Israel always being picked on" tripe!  Israel is NOT just trying to "survive" in the region...their ultimate goal is to reclaim their original "biblical borders", in any way they can.  Is that going to turn out well for the world?

Discernment is a rare activity these days, especially when it comes to Israel and the Jews.  Not all Jews are to blame, of course, but to infer that all Jews share the same goals and ideology is dangerously simplistic.  Zionism won't mind at all if it has to sacrifice common Jews to achieve its objectives.  And the objectives are nothing short of dangerous, evil, and maniacal.  Furthermore, b/c of the Israel-encouraged Middle East destablization, the lives of countless ME Christians are in great peril.  I don't hear American Christians paying one bit of attention or concern over this.  It is shameful. 

These things are only a fraction of what I know about the REAL truth of Israel and the Zionist agenda.  I will challenge you to a debate on it anytime, anywhere.  

Disenchanted's picture



you can't shuck and jive a shuck and jiver...


current events:


Israel rounds up African migrants for deportation


TEL AVIV | Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:31am EDT


(Reuters) Israel said on Monday it had started rounding up African migrants in the first stage of a controversial “emergency plan” to intern and deport thousands deemed a threat to the Jewish character of the state.

laosuwan's picture

Israel rounds up African migrants for deportation


Good on them. First of all enforcing the law is not rounding up it is arresting illegal aliens. They are not migrants; migrants are permitted to be present in a country under the law; illegal aliens are not migrants.


Second of all deportation of aliens is what happens when they are arrested because they are not in the country legally.


You are implying that israel is racist because it deports illegal aliens that are black as if that is racists,  but you fail to point out that it is not israel who decides the race of aliens illegally enter their country.


Finally, it is obvious that african muslims entering israel illegally at the present rate would in fact alter the character of the country and its economy. israel exists to be a refuge from jew haters like you see here on ZH. Israel is fully in its rights. african muslims are hostile to jewish religion.


You have to ask yourself why is it that muslim africans go all the way to israel so far away, a jewish state, when there are so many other charming muslm countries much closer they could enter?


Your post implies that anyone who manages to cross a border illegally is entitled to stay, like some kind of schoolyard game. That is insane and your logic implies that nations do not have a right to define their borders.

Disenchanted's picture




The reason for doing so(interning and deporting), in the article I linked was given as the Africans:

"threaten the Jewish character of the State"

If you'd remove your head from it's Zionist inspired bubble, you might recognize that as a purely racist and supremacist thought process.


The secular monied interests that control the modern State of Israel don't really give a shit about the religion, they use it as a tool.


It's funny how if here in the USA some of us feel that our immigration laws should be enforced it's often a Zionist Jew(or a Zionist Jew inspired 'stalking horse') who's first on the soapbox decrying white Gentile racism and then preaching to us about multiculturalism. But that same Jew will support unquestionably the racist, supremacist policies of the Jewish State of Israel, just like this example with the African migrants.


btw I'm not implying. Israel is a racist supremacist state, just as Jack Bernstein said it was long ago.


The Life of an American Jew in Racist Marxist Israel Written in 1985 by Jack Bernstein


Jack Bernstein is not the lone Jewish voice or source for these inconvienent facts.

laosuwan's picture

is mexico a racist state because it is entirely hispanc and has felony laws with strong prision terms against white americans and europeans working illegally as time share salesmen in its country? is korea racist because korean citizenship is based on being korean race? There are so many more examples I could give but why bother.

israel is not a racist state or it would have kicked out its arab citizens and these africans a long time ago. I traveled and worked in israel and nobody ever hassled me as an asian. israel is a jewish state; that is its reason for being. I dont think they care if you try to apply your apologist logic of western self loathing white liberal to them, they are intersted in surviving. They ar enot going to let themself turn into France where you expect to see some french people but everyone is from Arabia and Africa.


As for usa, if you dont intend to enforce your laws by rule of law, you want to let barry make his own laws by executive order like some dictator, that's fine. So why have laws? Eliminate your borders and stop pretending to be a country. Otherwise, why do you complain that ANYONE objects to ignoring the laws of your own country. This is not a question of race but of rule of law. You either have borders and rules for entering them, or you dont. You are either a nation or you are not.

By your logic, if a person illegally enters israel, israel has no right to take any action unless the person is not black. This is like the black rapist that, when arrested, claims his arrest is racially motivated. Maybe it is, but he is still a rapist. So what would you have the police do, say, "oh, he's black, I cannot arrest him for rape because that is racist." Then, in that case, you are really saying black people have the right to rape, which is in itself racist in a way.

Wise up.

riley martini's picture

 About two weeks ago the govenor of Florida issued an excutive order ; it is illegal for any Florida business to have any business dealing with any group - country that Israel considers an enemy . I think the govenor is being vetted for VPOTUS .

JR's picture

I couldn’t believe it but here it is, straight from the governor’s staff:

Governor Scott Signs Legislation to Keep State-Chartered Financial Institutions from Being Pipelines for Money Supporting Terrorism

On June 12, 2012, in News Releases, by staff

– Joins leaders of Florida’s Jewish community in standing against
Iran’s development of weapons of mass destruction –

 Today, Governor Rick Scott joined leaders of Florida’s Jewish community at the Jewish Federation of South Palm Beach County to ceremonially sign Senate Bill 792, Financial Institutions. The legislation gives the Office of Financial Regulation (OFR) the authority to require Florida’s state-chartered financial institutions to report information on any accounts that have connections with a foreign financial institution knowingly supporting international terrorism.

“Florida and Israel have strong cultural and economic ties, and as the only stable democracy in the Middle East, Florida must stand with Israel and against her enemies,” Governor Scott said. “One of Israel’s greatest threats is Iran and its leader’s insistence on developing nuclear capabilities and weapons of mass destruction. We have a responsibility to stand for freedom and democracy and against terrorism.”

SB 792 – Financial Institutions

With the new reporting requirements, OFR will be notified by Florida financial institutions whether any correspondent accounts or payable-through accounts with a foreign financial institution are knowingly:

• Facilitating the efforts of the Iranian government to develop weapons of mass destruction.
• Providing support to a foreign terrorist organization.
• Facilitating the activities of a person who is subject to financial sanctions by the United Nations Security Council’s Iranian sanction resolutions.
• Engaging in related money laundering activity.
• Facilitating efforts by Iranian financial institutions to carry out prohibited activities.
• Facilitating a significant transaction or providing significant financial services to an entity whose property interests are blocked pursuant to federal law associated with Iran’s proliferation of weapons of mass destruction or support for international terrorism.

To implement this legislation, OFR will submit an annual report to the Governor and the Legislature. Any state-chartered bank or credit union that does not provide information may face a penalty of $100,000. OFR will present information about the reporting process to the Governor and Cabinet at an upcoming meeting.

Governor Scott thanked Senator Don Gaetz for sponsoring this bill.

Stuck on Zero's picture

The U.S. government seems to be running around the world trying to provoke everybody into battle.  Fortunately the rest of the world just smartly yields and defers to the big bully.  The rest of the world knows we're burning ourselves out and will be just another failed state soon enough.


boooyaaaah's picture

Bull Shite

Read some of Licoln's speeches

He spells it out very carefully

The expansion of slavery was the problem

And the Irish immigrants knew that they could never compete in their adopted vountry if they had to compete with slave favtory labor

The southern delegates to the republican convention left because the platform contained one plank that they could not live with



After the Supreme Court's decision on Dred Scott you see a slave owner ould take his slave to Philadelphia. And it was perfctly legal

Lincoln called the gentile Southerners what they were Tyrants



AurorusBorealus's picture

You have the right of it... the Civil War was mostly about the expansion of slavery into the new territories.

Lednbrass's picture

Well, there arent any slaves now- so how about we allow states to vote on whether or not they want to remain in the US?

anonnn's picture

The Civil War began at least 2 years before Fort Sumpter.

John Brown's 1859 failed attempt to end slavery by fomenting rebellion by the slaves did indeed impinge sharply on the slave-South. Brown's initial success, though brief, demonstrated for all to see the vulnerability "legal" slavery. He set the example that became widely known, and thus wildly effective.

It made clear that force would thenceforth be used again and again to force the issue. And that delaying the inevitable conflict would increasingly see a stronger and overwhelming  forces, Northern or not.

War , and soon, was the only way to maintain the slave-economy system. It was secede now, or never.

The union of United States was a coerced and very artificial affair. Slavery was such a stumbling block that "slavery" was not even mentioned in the Constitution. There was only a vague intimation that it would end in about 20 years, when the importation of persons would become illegal. And 20 years later, importation became illegal but slavery flourished.

Do not forget England's overlords were only too happy to assist fomenting break-up of the US as a way to regain its lost foothold in the richest of all its resource lands.

Today, the Eurozone is another example of uniting under false pretenses. Countries lied about their balance sheets to meet the rules of entry. While that pleased and benefited the ruling families,  the "union" could not withstand the hidden  fraud. The result, hopefully, will not lead to war. But note, Sovereignty [States'Rights?] is threatened by the attempt to form a central tyranny in Brussels. A mess. Here we go again.


ootofthehoos's picture

I guess that would explain the tariff, like the talk of putting a tariff on Chinese slave labor goods.

I know nothing regarding the subject, though.

holdbuysell's picture

From the WSJ article cited above from May 2011: 

"The Pentagon has concluded that computer sabotage coming from another country can constitute an act of war, a finding that for the first time opens the door for the U.S. to respond using traditional military force."


And then in May 2012, via ZH recently:

"Obama Ordered The "Code Stux""



Flying Tiger Comics's picture

Google L Fletcher Prouty, read everything he ever wrote and transcripts of everything he ever said. Buy the DVD set, it's cheap and worth thousands.

The Age of Useful Idiots's picture

Major General Smedley Butler, 1933 speech

“There isn’t a trick in the racketeering bag that the military gang is blind to. It has its ‘finger-men’ to point out enemies its ‘muscle-men’ to destroy enemies, its ‘brain men’ to plan war preparations and a ‘Big Boss’ Super-Nationalistic-Capitalism. It may seem odd for me, a military man, to adopt such a comparison. Truthfulness compels me to. I spent thirty-three years and four months in active military service as a member of this country’s most agile military force, the Marine Corps. I served in all commissioned ranks from Second Lieutenant to Major General. And during that period, I spent most of my time being a high class muscle-man for Big Business, for Wall Street and for the Bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I suspected I was just part of a racket at the time. Now I am sure of it.

I helped make Honduras ‘right’ for American fruit companies in 1903. I helped make Mexico, especially Tampico, safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefits of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. In China I helped to see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested. During those years, I had, as the boys in the back room would say, a swell racket. Looking back on it, I feel that I could have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents."

dizzyfingers's picture

Don't let your kids grow up to be soldiers.

fishwharf's picture

Thanks ZH, I think.  This is a brilliant piece of writing.  James Miller absoultly nails the issues of war and peace in our time, but he has left me depressed because I see no way that the current situation can be changed.  Almost everyone I know and love has been brainwashed yet they don't know it and get angry at people like me who are not patriotic enough for them.

I've given up on hope & change and I'm doing what I can to extricate myself from the clutches of the Powers that Be.

putaipan's picture

something wicked this way comes ...... i can always tell when they start broadcasting exodus with paul newman nonstop,

Fix It Again Timmy's picture

TPTB - "We kill because we can."

tony bonn's picture

you can shove your neocon drivel about lincoln back up your diarhetic ass and the boobery about roosevelt's prior knowledge of pearl harbor as well....fdr was down right evil but he was manipulated by internationalist forces in his administration, not the least of which were the banksters of wall street who funded with malice aforethought hitler and mussolini....

the myth of roosevelt's foreknowledge of japan has no foundation in fact despite stinton's best efforts....and the japanese were not backed into a corner - they were in the midst of one of the most vicious and brutal assaults on asia, making ghengis khan look rather saintly by comparison....japan could have alleviated its resource needs by ending its imperial expansions and negotiating peaceably for what it needed....

on the other hand, it is true that ww1, ww2, vietnam, 9/11, the uss maine, etc were all machinations of wall street and its unlimited greed and corruption, a staple of that den of wickedness....the present provocations in the middle east are no exception with wall street and the cia working hand in hand to deliver a war and the final major reserve of middle eastern oil into the bush crime syndicate's hands....

falak pema's picture

at least that has the merit of being a clear rebuttal on those historical issues; aka Lincoln and FDR. Thank you for playing counter point. 

psychobilly's picture

"you can shove your neocon drivel about lincoln back up your diarhetic ass..."

The neocons worship Lincoln as an idol.  He's one of their favorite go-to examples to justify an "energetic", out-of-control and unaccountable executive branch.  You are obviously confused.

"the myth of roosevelt's foreknowledge of japan has no foundation in fact despite stinton's best efforts...."

Despite your dumbing-down at the hands of government schools and the media, and desperate attempts by a small handful of court historians tied to the national security establishment to put the genie back in the bottle, the facts suggest that FDR did in fact have foreknowledge. 

"and the japanese were not backed into a corner"

I'm afraid the McCollum memo which laid out a plan for exactly that is all too real, as is the fact that FDR followed the plan to "T."

Disenchanted's picture



It wasn't just Stinnett alone...


Pearl Harbor Archive


One thing I've always wondered is why do Americans automatically accept that an attack on Pearl Harbor in 1941 was an "attack on America?"

Last time I checked Hawaii became a state of the U.S. in 1959. That is a whole other issue in itself...


this dissertation challenges the core assumptions about the history of law and politics in the Hawaiian Islands by providing a
legal analysis of Hawaiian sovereignty under international law that clearly explicates Hawai`i’s occupation by the United States since the Spanish American War. In terms of law, this study looks at the origin and development of the Hawaiian Kingdom as a
constitutional monarchy, the events that led to the illegal overthrow of its government, the prolonged occupation of its territory, and a strategy to impel the United States to comply with the international laws of occupation with the ultimate goal of ending the
prolonged occupation.



ootofthehoos's picture

Well, they were not Republic of Hawaii ships, which sunk.

tongue.stan's picture

So, long body bags and crematoriums?

When should I go long oil?

Might as well, 'cause I have no faith in 'Merikan peoples to rise up and stop this shit.

Brainwashed and indoctrinated does not even begin to describe the zombification I see in every one around me. Complete obliviousness. Absolute apathy to national politics, although on a local level many good people do many good things.

The media is so carefully controlled, even locally. The sitcoms and reality shows are such transparent propaganda. Same with movies. National news is complete government tripe. Its like Chinese state run television. Our economy is centrally planned like the chicoms; but, there is actually a more vibrant street capitalism in China, as well as alot less murder and mayhem. Not that I would live there, but the contrast speaks to the blindness of the US to what we have become, and the death we have and will continue to cause.

Poor Grogman's picture


1. War would be unlikely if the USA were working correctly.

2. The USA would be working correctly if the constitution were being followed.

3. The constituton would be being adhered to if it hadnt been usurped by the lobbying power of the money changers and war lobby

4. The money changers wouldnt bother with the levers of power if there werent enormous amounts of money to gain.

5. There would not be enormous amounts of money to gain if it wasnt for the Federal reserve system.

6. The federal reserve system would not be able to create unlimited funds if it weren't for FIAT MONEY.

7. FIAT MONEY wouldn't exist if the constitution were followed.

8. See line 2...


Conclusion FIAT MONEY = WAR

Always has done.... always will....


rambo1028's picture

I have deep hatred for the fed and fiat but I had actually never connected the two dots between fiat and war. Thanks for finishing the picture for me Poor G.

chump666's picture

ZH you following India crisis? The INR wipeout?  All over wires.  Looks like a panic from one of the BRICs, which is one of Obama creditors.


falak pema's picture

its called monetary readjustment as India will continue to import bigtime Oil and Weapons and its ability to export will suffer through loss of growth in first world markets. Trade deficits on horizon. India has to change its economic paradigm by going more to more intra BRIC, inter asian cooperation. 

That does not suit the ruling class that earn their kick backs from big government contracts to western Oligarchs and corporations. Bad habits are a bitch to change. Going slim and hungry is now required from all players who want to survive in the coming attrition age. 

BlackholeDivestment's picture

Juvenile assessment, I stopped reading at hello. Lol.

(...but, I am compelled to go back and read it all, just to know how blind you maybe, cuz yer not totally blind obviously. Deceived? Lol)

You have no idea what is really going on do you? Is your name really Dennis Miller? LMAO, Just kidding... 


JR's picture

Richard Silverstein’s report today on the Israel Lobby Creates Anti-Iran Astroturf Group is an eye opener regarding Jewish ethical methodology. Israel, it seems, is creating phantom groups to gain leverage in public debate, “promoting a hostile view of Iran that would be conducive eventually to striking it militarily.”

Strangely enough, its phantom Iran 180 lends a modern twist to Talmudic immorality and pornography.

Writes Silverstein:

“Now, Ben Doherty of Electronic Intifada and I have exposed yet another such strange project dreamed up by a PR firm run by a former IDF public affairs officer and funded by the Jewish Community Relations Council of New York.  The latter is the political and lobbying arm of the powerful New York Jewish community.  Its director is Rabbi Michael Miller.  On this project, he went into business with a PR firm ‘boutique’ called Thunder11, founded by Israel-American, Marco Greenberg, who serves as its president. Greenberg was raised in California and attended UCLA.  He made aliyah in the 1990s and joined the IDF, where he served in the army public affairs unit.  No later than 2002 he had returned to the States, where he and his wife became trustees (page 19) of the AIPAC-affiliated think-tank, the Washington Institute for Near East Policy.  This places him squarely inside the pro-Israel policy advocacy community.  Aside from the JCRC, Thunder11?s clients include internet and social media firms like Conversocial, Media Friends, and Group Commerce.

“Together they created a ‘group’ on behalf of the JCRC called Iran180

 “Iran180 is what’s known in political PR circle as an ‘astroturf’ organization.  It exists in name only and serves the interests of parties who can’t be seen publicly to be supporting an issue.  In the case of this group, the JCRC and others like the Anti-Defamation League, groups like the American Jewish Committee and UJA Federation of New York, joined together as formal sponsors of the group

“Thus Iran180 was born as a supposed coalition of New York ethnic and women’s groups united behind the group’s slogan, ‘Human rights, not nuclear rights.’ ...

“Iran180, however, leads a double life.  On the one hand it attempts to be a serious human rights organization.  But it has a Jekyll/Hyde identity as a rough-and-tumble agitprop street theater group featuring giant puppets acting the part of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and various other Middle Eastern tyrants like Bashar Assad and Muammar Gadhafi.

“None of this would be out of bounds… until you examine the product of Iran180?s street theater.  In 2011, it hosted a float at San Francisco’s Gay Pride parade in which Ahmadinejad was sodomized by a nuclear missile.  During the same event, Ahmadinejad fellated said missile.  Last year, during UN demonstrations coinciding with the Iranian leader’s UN General Assembly speech, the group featured gay Jewish wedding between Ahmadinejad and Assad in which they stood under a chuppah and broke a wedding glass.  In another scene, the lovebirds take a drive in a horse-drawn carriage and one strokes the naked belly of the other.

“Iran180 also produced a rap video in which Ahmadinejad defecates in a public toilet and throws white, blond-haired girls into piles of garbage.  In other images, you see spittle oozing from Ahmadinejad’s mouth…  the street theater appeals to an entirely different demographic: the younger, social media-savvy, urban hip-hop culture.  It’s this element of Iran180?s work which will attract media attention due to its outrageousness.  Or as the pro-Israel advocacy group, Jewish Council for Public Affairs put it in a remarkably candid appraisal of the strategy behind the group:

Rallies outside the UN have become a feature of Ahmadinejad’s visits to the US.  But interest and impact have been waning. Seeing these rallies attract fewer attendees and even less press, the New York Jewish Community Relations Council decided to act and formed a new coalition called Iran 180.

…As important as the message of Iran 180 is, that was not enough to generate the desired attention. Visuals are key. Thus was born the giant 10 foot Ahmadinejad puppet. The popularity and presence of this puppet made it a useful tool for Iran 180, creating more opportunities to spread their message. The press had a catchy photograph and Iran 180 had a hook. The puppet became a signature of Iran 180 events, landing on the front page of the New York Times, and opening up a realm of possibilities for new uses.

“In short, a 10 foot puppet being sodomized might make it in on TMZ.  Roya Hakakian, not so much…”

AnAnonymous's picture

Israelis are US citizens, they support US citizenism as vocally repeated by US citizens of A for example.

They do behave the US citizen way. Human rights, the natural rights theory has always been used by US citizens as a monkey wrench to break into any society they want.

US citizens have no committment to natural rights themselves as shown by the civil war example among others with no side fighting to end slavery, only to maintain or expand slavery.

That recalled, why make of these Iran180 a specific case, as if they were misfits, oddities in a US citizen society?
They do behave the US citizen way. Do they do it better than others, leading to a special commendation?
That should be told.

AnAnonymous's picture

Free Tibet! Free Taiwan! Free the United States of America!

aleph0's picture

EXCELLENT Report from von Mises Inst. ... as usual.




.... previous meddling. After Prime Minister Mohammed Mossadegh nationalized the oil industry in 1953, British Petroleum used the CIA to overthrow the popular leader and put the Shah back in power whose authoritarian rule would be financially supported by the U.S. up to the Islamic Revolution of 1979....

... IIRC :

BP was under-declaring their Oil Revenues to Iran, thus under-paying Royalties which were anyway very low.
Iran wanted BP's books audited ... a massive embarassment for the "Empire" in those days. BP refused outright , and was thus asked to leave the country.
Churchill  (who had relied on Iran for oil during WW2) was livid, and asked America for help.... America refused.
Only after Churchill suggested that the Communists might take over Iran, did the US come around.
The CIA only needed 4 weeks for the Coup .... the rest is history.



NuYawkFrankie's picture

 As The Book says:  

- Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

- For they sow the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind.


Be prepared for the worst.... and hope it's only twice as bad.

AnAnonymous's picture

On propaganda and US citizens. One propaganda has to chase the one just denounced. Just like the article does.

When it comes to measure the motivations of civil war against freedom, US citizens find their salvation in the hegelian dialectics to offuscate the very fact that no sides were supporting emancipation.

Even better, by constantly on the northern non committment to freedom, it also allows to keep the Southern motivations in the dark.

The Southerns hold nothing less a project that turning slaveownership into a natural rights (as brought by US citizenism's natural rights philosophy)

It meant that a slave owner considered that any place he lived, he should be given the possibility to own slaves and that any place not siding with this vision was harming his natural rights.

As time has passed by, and one has been given opportunities to witness the use US citizens make of the natural rights theory(as they call) to mind others'business, a victory of this US citizen vision would have been funny to observe. Meaning that US citizens would war on people for not allowing slavery.

After this little thought, straightforward understanding on the causes driving US citizens to ignore the southern motivations and grand place toward slavery.

Better to focus on the north will to maintain slavery.

US citizenism is the name of the ...

AnAnonymous's picture

Free Tibet! Free Taiwan! Free the United States of America!

Inthemix96's picture

Can anyone help out here?  I have a good grasp of the English language but this fucker has got me beat???

I have tried every option for translating ananonmymouse into English and nowt works, fuck all, nothing???

I would love to know what in fucks name ananonymus is saying but fuck me, its very hard.  Help please??

akak's picture

If you are striving to make any sense of the illogical and bigoted trollish gibberings of AnusAnonymous, I can only tell you:  "Abandon hope, all ye who enter here."

chistletoe's picture

decently written article ....

I hope there are hard copies, not just digital, and they have a chance of surviving the coming chaos,