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Protesters Storm, Occupy Hart Senate Office Building
Looks like #OccupyWallStreet is morphing into #OccupySenate first and #OccupyCongress soon. Next up: #OccupyWhiteHouse? From a reader: "Here is a live feed to Occupy DC which has stormed the Hart Senate Office Building in D.C. – there are several dozen protestors chanting, arrests being made, and a flag that was hung upside down (sign of distress)."
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Coked to the gills, must be daytraders.
More likely adrenaline.
It's quite a rush thinking that you may get shot.
BTW: can't anyone make a freaking 'cam' that can live stream without making everything look like it's made out of Legos?
Occupy EVERYTHING
We are witnessing the birth of American Spring
#OccupyAmerica
Occupy Germany. Oh, wait, we've been doing that since 45'. Fortunately it did not cost anything.
We, or they?
Let's occupy them, the power hungry New World Order's Military Industrial Complex that perpetrated their Fiat Ponzi upon our society, and then free ourselves of their weight, their bondage, their chains.
Occupy EVERYTHING
At least they.....at least they.
Figured out......figured out.
The right place to protest.....the right place to protest.
Awesome!
Google National Security Presidential Directive 51 (NSPD 51), because Martial Law is coming pretty soon – and most Americans do not have a single clue what this means.
They will draft them all, and send them to fight China.
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6213/6232631865_79f03784ed_z.jpg
+ 1 fixed bayonets and all that ...
Clearly, something futile had to be done by someone.
This is bogus, fake protest. These OWS fuckers don't know how to protest. Soros' training wasn't good enough.
Yes brother,
Sadly, you have hit the nail on the head. Please see more in the reply below.
A quick question to interject is, what does a poor innocent bystander do?
upon googling "hart office building occupied" slewie learned that it was first occupied in 1982
Shouldn't that be "Hartpence"?
Following the Willie Sutton principle... they are taking it to where the real crooks are.
Nothing is going to change until America picks up it's guns and starts shooting cops (who should be tried for treason)then and only then will the Government give a shit about what you have to say.
Yeah, just what they want you all to do.
There are a few documents that tell the story of the present and future to come that the elitist reptile-like scumbags have blatantly put out for all to see.
Agenda 21. How many of you know what that is? How many of you have read the un's own documents describing this evil agenda of the dark side? There has been great efforts to wipe this information off the net, but if you look hard you can find plenty of info still. The radiation poisoning and world contamination is part of the population kill-off because it is easier to take a dead man‘s land than a live one.:
http://www.green-agenda.com/agenda21.html
The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. If you have not read this document, you really need to so you can plainly SEE the agenda in this blueprint at work, and what is still to come. More murder for power and the kill-off agenda. Do not listen to the nay-sayers or detractors that will attack this document as being false. READ IT FOR YOURSELF from beginning to end and twice if you have to and then comment please.:
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/przion1.ht
Think about it, when was the last time a govt capitulated to the real LEGITIMATE demands of the people? When was the last time this empire-corporation called the USA-govt has capitulated to the demands of any group of people? May have been close during the Vietnam war, but have we seen anything like that since? Still waiting for those days to come and according to the Protocols, they will be perpetuated and propagated so the evil empire can take control of what once was a country of free people using the force they have ready to roll out. We may be seeing the beginnings of that now in this OWS thing. Have you ever studied what they call non-lethal weapons?
Just a few of the hundreds they have:
http://www.cracked.com/article_16710_6-non-lethal-weapons-thatll-make-yo...
From this link:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/non-lethal.htm
“Political, diplomatic and economic demands dictate that future operations, where possible, minimize U.S. casualties while limiting collateral civilian casualties and collateral damage to civilian objects. Crowd control in conducting peacekeeping and humanitarian assistance missions is as likely a task for the Army as is destroying enemy armor and infantry forces in war.”
Oh yah, sure. You go ahead, we'll watch and see how that turns out for you.
This is the beginning of the PROGRESSIVE REVOLUTION. The people rightdully DEMAND that our government do the following to restore peace and liberty to America:
1. Do away with nasty free market wages and let the government determine ALL wages so that people earn a FAIR wage for the work they do
2. Introduce price controls on all consumer goods so that Americans are not forced to pay unfair prices set by GREEDY corporations
3. Introduce a jobs bill that employs ALL unemployed Americans un useful and productive occupations, giving them the jobs they deserve
You should have picked the alias, "Punching Bag".
He gets off on pushing your buttons, probably jerks off to it, and all of you are playing into his hand (excuse the pun).
It's lunchtime dude how about a little common courtesy?
Where are my manners - bon appetit
MDB - you are far too moderate...we need go much further:
1- 25% import tariffs on all imports immediately and 25% more every year thereafter
2- tariffs waved for importers if min. 20% of corporations jobs / production are in aMerica (and increasing targets every year thereafter)
3- tax free...nah, tax credits, for all corporations moving production to aMerican soil
4- Rename aMerica ---> FORTRESS AMERICA, FUCK YEAH
So seeking to employ Americans is bad? I get your sarcasm and I raise you a noose. FU. Your free-market BS, and I am no leftist, has become a religion and you're blinded by it. US-based businesses should be just like the chinese--seek to employ, people in their own country. FU again. The fact that this is even debated this is even being being dbated sickenzs me.
You have fallen for the bullshit that what we've had is free-market, so your comparison is flawed. The invisible hand slaps you.
you are a communist
Do we really know who these "protesters" are or what they want yet, really? Obama backed the rebels (protesters) in Egypt and Lybia and we still don't know if the outcome will be better than what existed before. Check out some of their wierd behavior, as reported by Alex Jones/Infowars:
http://www.infowars.com/occupy-agitators-sabotage-first-amendment/
I'm all for "End the Fed", sound money, individual liberty, etc. and Ron Paul. That is why these fuckers scare me. These are collectivist NWO types it seems...
They probably are leftists but there seems to be no evidence they are NWO types. Whatever the eff that means. I believe their main cause is pretty simple: bankers created and proftited from this crisis and no one has been held accountable and yet the common man is suffering immensely. But in regards to the Alex Jones crap, there's this from the article: The whole point of this experience is to eliminate the individual mind and train everyone to think, and say, and do exactly what they are told to do by a “leaderless leader” who is really a mind control manipulator.
WTF is a leaderless leader who seems not to exist yet is mindcontrolling the protesters. Huh? And IDK about Egypt but I think almost anything is better than Gaddafi. Unless it becomes an Islamic state. But that's really not our biz anyway our only biz should eb finding those shoulder-fired missiles. But it seems that the comments section on this site is on the decline i terms of good posts on the economy.
They probably are leftists but there seems to be no evidence they are NWO types. Whatever the eff that means. I believe their main cause is pretty simple: bankers created and proftited from this crisis and no one has been held accountable and yet the common man is suffering immensely. But in regards to the Alex Jones crap, there's this from the article: The whole point of this experience is to eliminate the individual mind and train everyone to think, and say, and do exactly what they are told to do by a “leaderless leader” who is really a mind control manipulator.
WTF is a leaderless leader who seems not to exist yet is mindcontrolling the protesters. Huh? And IDK about Egypt but I think almost anything is better than Gaddafi. Unless it becomes an Islamic state. But that's really not our biz anyway our only biz should eb finding those shoulder-fired missiles. But it seems that the comments section on this site is on the decline i terms of good posts on the economy.
Gave you a solid green, and I'm shocked as hell that more people don't get your sarcasm. Wow.
Gotta love the MDB posts. Just think the opposite of what you read!
For those of you who miss Erin Burnett, she's "Seriously" defending Wall Street again.
If she's not careful, her new set on CNN is about to be OCCUPIED.
"Seriously" clip disses protests
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IurmcCbOX7o
Erin, you pathetic teeny bopper. Go back to the sorority house and / or junior league club house from whence you came.
Oh come on now, Erin's gotta be good for "something"
I could find a use for her;)
she looks like a blow up doll
just saying
Hell, I'd take seconds.
yeah, cause it's gonna work even better than that egyptian one!!!1111!!
But what if I have to poop? I hope someone will shit or get off the pot.
Then occupy a bathroom somewhere.
#OccupyAmericasshitters
What if someone else has to poop?
Charge rent?
That's capitalist.
Damn.
Shitter's full!!!
Here is what you can do.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2046586/Occupy-Wall-Street-Shocking-photos-protester-defecating-POLICE-CAR.html
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6238/6234558081_f10d25fb9b_z.jpg
And if someone from a Tea Party rally would have done that? Just saying...
Q: But what if I have to poop? I hope someone will shit or get off the pot.
A: #OccupyWithPolPot
Would that require a PolPot to piss in?
"...something is happening here, but you don't know what it is do you, Mr Jones?"
Ballad of a Thin Man - Bob Dylan
White stripes video anyone?
BTW: can't anyone make a freaking 'cam' that can live stream without making everything look like it's made out of Legos?
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iPhone 6.0 per Jobs (RIP Steve) and AAPL marketing five-year plan ...
Now we're talking, bitchez
"We don't believe in the Democrats . . . Obama represents the 1%, the Corporatocracy."
Occupy the IRS. Then abolish it too.... if we can print 13 Trillion to Banks and non US entities, then what is the IRS for? Fear?
In fact.. no income tax on labor... rentier taxes, consumption takes, tariffs.
IRS and taxes are just another instrument to maintain more at subvert the status quo. Remeber the 2nd Amendment is theoretically an insurance against taxation w/out representation; which is what we are suffering through today.
The greatest fear of gov and wall st. is if the protestors exercised their 2nd Amendment Rights and showed up to The Wall and gov buildings armed!
Privy to these illegal banking and gov $kaMs, our Founding Fathers would be personally protesting with their muskets TODAY and escorting Bernank et. al to the firing squad or noose.
Put to you in Country Simple terms.
Not really Vast, it's been a huge lie for a long time. Those founding fathers? Hah! haaaaaah!
Eurocrats, working for their euromasters. Hardy patriots or founders, really.
Ben franklin, worth reading up. JQA too.
it's been a long lie, tiring to keep digging and finding new shit. Deeper shit.
ORI
Truth about America
How about framing it as such: the actual Constitution, as document/text, is, relative to the bs going down today, a most rightous insurance policy.
You can certainly pervert any historical biography and/or event. But if you honor the spirit of the Constitution, then you can shove all the revisionist theories, legit or not, up your arse. Okay Poonjab?
=The Truth about NOT being a FUCKTARD=
if the spirit had been respected then the current fascist gvt would not have been.
thus if those who tell others to honor the spirit will not abide the rules they say they honor , but only in spirit then fuck you bitch.
Better to be a fuctard than a crying useless two faced hypocrite.
You "spirit in the sky" freaks are useless. Just die already and get your spirit rewards.
Precisely why these protests are VAILD. Son. RIGHTEOUS.
My above is unassailable, unless of course your low IQ is threatened and/or your shit for brains have short-circuited. Cheers.
PS Poonjabi cleary your bacteria infected masala and drinking water has given your feeble mind the runs. Even more reason to protest and support any and every doc/text that ensures some semblance of survival in the face of oppression. Unless of course your dirt poor diseased lands provide the dellusion of safety in that which you are so used to; namely, shit.
Hope you drink Cocla-Cola too, after they've destroyed local drinking water supplies. That's voting with your hard-earned cashish -- the only true vote left.
I'm with ya.
>the actual Constitution... a most rightous insurance policy.
It's a document signed by people who died centuries ago.
You CANNOT use the U.S. Constitution to defend yourself because you are NOT a party to it.
(Padelford Fay & Co. v The Mayor and Alderman of the City of Savannah 14 Georgia 438, 520)
It hardly applies to the States in practice; for example, they are ostensibly required to accept only gold and silver as legal tender (Article 1 Section 10).
Look at Article 1 Section 8: "The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises ... To borrow money on the credit of the United States". It is inherently immoral to commit robbery - to collect "taxes" or "protection money" using threats of violence. It is immoral to borrow money and issue "bonds" (slave futures) while using unwilling third parties and the unborn as collateral. The Constitution contains the germ of immorality. Sooner or later it's bound to bloom into something repugnant.
Even Ghandi said one of the most heinous crimes the British committed was the disarmament of the Indian people.
It's Gandhi, and he was as bad the "founding fathers". Patsy.
And vast dom above, less said the better.
ORI
What a load of crap. I don't care if Ben Franklin was King George's little brother. These men produced the Constitution, the most brilliant document in history. They didn't live to see how it was bent or twisted, or they'd have been more explicit in many regards, but a lack of foresight is not evidence of ill intent.
If you 're right, there's probably no hope for humankind, all governmental systems are evil. But the anarchist dream is nullified by the existence of nuclear weapons in many hands. Those that hold the the nukes are the government.
The founders showed that even in this chaotic age, sane government and sane money are still possible because they made it work before. If their system had failed utterly we'd have little of hope to point to. Pointing to any other system as a potential salvation is madness, nothing protects property and liberty as well.
>Pointing to any other system as a potential salvation is madness, nothing protects property and liberty as well.
You don't depend on a bureaucracy to provide you with cheeseburgers. You choose a well-known provider - McDonalds or Burger King, for example. Or you choose a local restaurant. Or you have your neighbor make a cheeseburger for you. Or you make your own cheeseburger. Or you choose not to eat a cheeseburger at all.
Security and arbitration services are like any other economic goods and services. So, why is it you think you need a bureaucracy to provide you with security and arbitration services, but you don't insist on this when it comes to cheeseburgers?
Is it possible that competing entrepeneurial providers of security and arbitration services could outperform monopolistic, bureaucratic providers?
Hey Doc I don't use my monies to support garbage like McD's Burger King Coca-Cola and the likes. Similarly, I don't rely on my gov't for jackshit; quite the opposite really.
But if you are myopic enough to not understand the implications of the above and the means by which to bend it all back to an approximation of justice, then what else can be said in this here forum?
PS by the same token that justice is implicit in government policy, a moral tax for the preservation of the just state is a legitimate demand; as opposed to the perversions of justice more at criminal enterprises, as exercised more at executed by today's global political parties, Bernank, Wall St. et. al. How we define fairness and such is the reason we are in this mess. I hear chanting outisde my window here on the UES! The zombie holocaust may have just begun.............
+1776
+1861-1865
consider for a moment, what was then a righteous uprising of the southern states against exactly what happens to be wrong right now
slavery aside of course, which was just a rallying talking point for the north
states rights, and smaller govt, evil central bank, taxing of the south to support cities in the north
take care that the OWS 'revolution' does not end in the same rotten course as last time
aany revolution type activity we go through will be far more akin to the civil war than the revolution
Slavery was a rallying point? The whole was about slavery. The compromise of 1820 and 1840. The mason-dixon-line. the civil war was faought and the south rebeled because lincoln said that slavery would not be allowed in the frontier lands of what is now the west and south west. no new states could have slaves. for slavery to perservere as an economic model it had to grow. if it didnt it and the southern way of life would die. thats why it was fought. there were many important events leading up to it and a lot of compromises, this is when reason i view compromise with a jaded view in politics, but it is being changed by our current hardly facist gov't (oh, and neither was the last one). if obmaba is a facist so is bush. and vice versa.
if you gave my comment a negative, you need to head to the library and pick up any history book, even one written by jefferson davis, cause everything thing i said is a fact. its not an opinion. its not a view of history. its what happened.
why did the slave state delaware side with the union
Occupy Federal Reserve. This recent move to march billionaire home is distraction. Stupid. Occupy Wall Street need to split up, there are some there fans of Obama who want more bailout?? then stay at park, the other more savvy, who against bailout, against reward of failure, against taking taxpayer money to support failure, against Federal Reserve printing money that cause inflation, march to Federal Reserve.
Tea Party you lost our support when you decide to be against movement. It's not just the Unions at protest, you can come with Tea Party voice. But instead 35% of Tea Party now say they support Herman Cain. LOL!!!!
This is man you support. Man with direct oversight to push employees in failing stock. He's crook.
"Cain served on the board of directors throughout Aquila's ill-fated trading misadventure and the subsequent collapse of the company's retirement fund. In fact, he chaired the board's compensation committee, which, according to the lawsuit, had direct oversight of the push to get employees to invest more and more in Aquila stock. As chair of the compensation committee, Cain also saw fit to dole out $30 million in bonuses, not including stock options, to the top five execs at Aquila in 2002, with the company's stock plummeting. A month after the Kansas City Star reported on the hefty bonuses in July 2002, the company laid off 500 employees, and the losses to employees holding company stock had reached hundreds of millions of dollars.
The spectacular failure of Aquila's trading venture practically wiped out the hard-earned retirement savings of veteran employees. Richard Itteilag, a plaintiff in the Aquila class action, lost 87 percent of his savings. Robert Goodson, a 20-year Aquila employee, lost 75 percent. Michael Reinhardt lost a staggering 94 percent. All told, thousands of employees saw their retirement funds eviscerated thanks to Aquila's Enron-esque activities. (In 2007, Aquila settled with the employees for $10.5 million. Not long after, Aquila merged with other Midwestern energy companies and now no longer operates as Aquila.)
Occupy Federal Reserve.
I was in WA DC a couple weeks ago on a family vaca and we walked by the Federal reserve a couple times. There were two armed guards in front with automatic weapons (could get close enough to see what they were). The place had an odd, kind of eerie feel, very stark and empty.
I wonder why they do not try and OFR, maybe they know what would happen if they tried.
sschu
Thanks for the info on Cain. Can't believe this isn't being rpeorted. wait. scratch that. i would be shocked if they did report it. i used to be a journalist. was laid off two months ago. i've been one since i graduated in 2004. and the media and the ones who thrive in it have no morals. have no sense of right and wrong. its sickening evironment and i need a new career. it takes so much out of you if you have any sense of duty. it ruined my marriage.
Ya. Cain's platform plank is 'your all jealous shedup' is kind of strange even for a Banana Republic.
Maybe you should take your own advice and get off of your computer and DO SOMETHING
I'm sure that the local community college has e.g. remedial spelling and other advanced courses. - Ned
"This is the 'shift' key. It can be used to capitalize a letter for grammatical correctness, such as at the beginning of a sentence. This cues the reader that a new sentence has begun and aids in comprehension."
Periods are also great for letting people know sentences have ended. comments hardly need to grammatically correct. they just need to be readable.
Yeah, maybe he can get a course in how to be a twit and blow bankers.
seems you got a gold star.
+100 thanks for the laugh!
Here is something you can all do without leaving the confinds of your house STOP PAYING TAXES.that is unless you just yellow in which case go live in another country because revolution is comming
What's their solution? I'd like to hear their goals before we start casting them in bronze.
What's your solution. Ass hole. You sit there to criticize. Why don't you go and make voice heard. Instead you troll message board. Is new Homeland Security rule trolls have two word identity. Gene Parmesan
My solution is one that doesn't involve socialism, unions, support from Obama, etc. Unfortunately, my solution seems to be at odds with that of the folks doing the protesting.
What country are you posting from, comrade?
Really what is your great solution and if so great why don't you educate people at protest. We like to hear from you. It's great lazy excuse to sit at home and say at odds, Go speak your mind.
I'm US citizen, asshole.
My great solution involves individual accountability, allowing people and corporations to fail, equal treatment under the law as opposed to an implied guarantee of equal results, a small government that enforces all laws rather than selectively enforcing laws only when it's convenient or politically correct to do so, and a whole bunch of other shit that was at one time accepted as common sense.
Something tells me that all of these dipshit college students and aging hippies aren't interested in my solutions though. They seem to be focused on getting their student loan debt wiped clean, or toppling every corporation in sight so that the workers can take over.
Well Gene Parmesan if these your great solutions, that are good ideas, you feel right at home at protest. There are many there agree with you.
Not according to all the signs I've seen pictures of, but hey, if they agree with those concepts, then maybe they're not so bad after all.
For American citizen you much write like Russian.
Great catch.
I'm about 99% with you here Gene -- common sense unfortunately isn't so common, and it's becoming doggone rare indeed of late.
But that last sentence -- didn't UAW move as fast as possible to *get out* of control of GM when they had it for a bit during the bailout, since they took so much stock? I recall laughing my ass off about it, since it kinda made sauce of their supposed "common sense" -- how could they advocate against management, and do the divide and conquer thing when they were management as well as labor? Nope gotta get out of that situation as fast as possible -- they realized quick that being management in a place where workplace is poisoned by us vs them mentality (caused largely by themselves) is not a good place to be, and rather than raking it in and screwing the workers, it was really going the other way as much as anything.
My entire career I've refused to work at a union shop of any kind. Anyplace you have two bosses, and have to pay one to poison the atmosphere with an us vs them mentality doesn't deserve my talents. I never had trouble getting or creating a job, because I've got the talent to create value. No employer ever shat on me because they realized that. Seems to me unions/managment situation is just a box full of losers on both sides, wish they'd leave us alone and go self destruct together.
Some corporations, not all, actually are evil and do need toppling. We let them be "persons" but that's not a good deal unless we make them completely persons - do crime, go to jail. Die when you can't live anymore. You're not allowed to live forever and make longer term schemes of domination come true. You're not allowed to weild power over your consituents without their approval -- that's government (even WITH approval), not a "person". That'd be a little more "common sense", eh? If I have to be accountable for my actions, why not them just the same, real jail time if like Sony, you root a ton of computers. Or for Microsoft if you abuse monopoly with lockin and refuse to document for interoperability; or simply, have to give money back for defective product and damages caused by it, rather than being able to tax every computer on earth, whether it runs their shit or not. Or having to clean up your own mess if you spill a bunch of oil. I'm subject to all those limitations, why not corps?
Forgive me for painting with a broad brush, particularly with respect to the comments on unions and corporations. Just trying to highlight what I see as troubling details that are being reported back from the protest front.
2nd hand reports, remember.
Similar to the toothless redneck the media never seemed to have trouble finding when doing "tea party" reports a while back.
If you do go you'll see this partisan crowd, is hardly partisan at all. "Obama should be jailed" was the extent of O'support I witnessed... personally, for two days. just sayin'
Good.
I did also see a picture of some relatively attractive young lady who was naked but for a couple of coats of paint, so maybe I should give the movement a bit longer to find itself before picking sides.
I think I love you.
So what are you so afraid of? :D
"Really what is your great solution and if so great why don't you educate people at protest. We like to hear from you."
Really, you are blowing smoke. I've seen plenty of videos now of the protestors and the NLP "repeat after me" stuff with the barely concealed hyper-earest hyper-progressive crap. I saw similar, and equally appalling stuff in the 60's (in the 60's, they called themseves Maoists). I see no evidence whatsoever that these folks are interested in small, limited, constitutional government--at least not the guy with the mic, who runs the show or the union enforcers. Even the OWS demands that are coherent would require an enomous expansion of government power and revenue.
I swam a bit in the idealistic, change the world with better leaders sea in the 60's until I met the organizers (on that note, I suppose you have heard Bill Ayers has just joined in with the OWS guys). The leaders, like Ayers, were hideous folks with hideous goals. I recognize the same type in the videos as were running the show in the 60's. No decent person would have anything to do with Bill Ayers or his progeny 40 years later.
So while I thank you for your invite (and you may well be sincere), I know that neither you nor Bill Ayers nor any of the other folks on the videos I’ve seen are interested in small, limited, constitutional government. Get rid of Bill Ayers and his ilk, the union enforcers, and the Code Pink types and stop the NLP repeat after me program-the-third-graders stuff and that might convince me there are folks there that are worth talking to. Until then, I can only conclude the OWS protestors, regardless how sincere some may be, are not doing anything to control who is controlling their movement. That means they are either naïve (ala 90% of the protestors in the 60’s) or they think Bill Ayers and his progeny are good guys. Only experience fixes naivete. Only justice fixes evil.
Repeat after me: "A government that" "A government that" "is powerful enough" "is powerful enough" "to bail out" "to bail out" "Wall Street" "Wall Street" "and to subsidize" "and to subsidize" "student loans that" "student loans that" "put students in debt" "put students in debt" "to subsidize professors" "to subsidize professors" "is powerful enough" "is powerful enough" "to enslave you" "to enslave you" "and cause the mess we are in." "and cause the mess we are in." "So we must" "so we must" "reduce the size and power" "reduce the size and power" "of the government" "of the government" "by about 90%" "by about 90%" "and put the people" "and put the people" "who caused it to be so big and powerful" "who caused it to be so big and powerful" "in jail" "in jail."
Everyone wiggles their fingers in the air--he wants to put bad guys in jail! I think have 'em programmed. But then I start talking about reality.
"That means" "That means" "No bail outs or subsidies" "no bail outs or subsidies", "to corporations, labor unions, or ACORN" "to corporations, labor unions, or ACORN" [things are starting to get uncomfortable] "No free health care" "No free health care", [what, is he crazy?] "No green energy subsidies" "No green energy subsidies" [booing starts] "No trillion dollar initiatives to save rain forests" [crowd is now murmering about lynching] "No trillion dollar initiatives to save rain forests", "No subsidized student loans" "No subsidized student loans" [That's it. They rush the stage] "No trillion dollar subsidies to unions", "No trillion dollar subsidies to unions", [As I am overwhelmed, I am yellyng] "No $20 an hour minimum wage", "No $20 an hour minimum wage" "You get to rely on" "You get to rely on" "your own initiative" "your own intiative" "to build your life" "to build your life."
Most of them are young and not ready to think about reality. The ones who know where this is going dream of leading a reality that is not a good one.
And by the way, what is your solution? I've told you mine. But you seem to keep avoiding that question with questions.
You need to change from a citizen(14th Ammedndment) to a sovereign if we all did that the Government would become powerless
So meat-whistle blower you're actually deep in the action, live, onscene, but tasked with scanning your mobile and making sure that posers on Zero Hedge don't comment and blaspheme the sacred movement?
He's obviously not paying attention if he thinks someone from DHS would be expending any effort whatsoever at trying to undermine the protests.
Back to our regularly scheduled, government sanctioned class warfare.
I'm at work fuck head too lazy to come up with clever retort.
you best unstick your ass from that chair and get back to groping old women's depends, before your supervisor catches you dicking off. You'll get all the pron you need from the scanners, anyways.
and a big Thanks for manning the line line and keeping us safe, hero.
Wow, that WAS clever, LOL!
thanks. I'm at work too, but it's a small airport
I'm with you, WB. We could all do something more. The fact that we're here doesn't mean we do nothing, this is the most educational website around, and I learn more from readers than articles. I'm lazy like the rest of us, but I'm giving to Ron Paul. If you live near one of these protests, make a sign and go, you'll feel good about it. I'm too cowardly to go to the Dallas end the fed rally, though it's only three hours away; I've got some unresolved tax issues. Weak, I know. I've got kids and a business. Oh well. Give to Ron Paul, at least you'll feel like you've done something concrete.
Guess what fucktard, we're all trolling a message board here, including you.
All these comments...but Gene is right. This protest needs a direction. Clearly it has the passion, judging by the mess last night in Boston. The 'Powers That Be' are handling this with a light show of force (last night approximately 16 police vans, both B.P.D. and Mass. State Police) as well as some 300+ officers in riot gear. The Veterans for Peace were the first ones arrested at the second encampment, some forcibly (by video accounts). Flags, including Old Glory, were pulled out of the ground as the marchers/occupiers stated they were veterans for peace and were United States citizens.
My point? Gene is right, this needs a solution (or direction, IMHO). Chaos is fine and everything ends up submitting to entropy in the end, but in order to get your message across to the masses in a succinct and effective manner, absolute, effective and most importantly (I can't stress this enough) CLEAR goals must be set in place as talking points for the people we elected to hear and understand. Simply showing unrest is doing nothing but making you look like a child throwing a temper tantrum in a toy store.
Is Gene trolling? In a word, no. Simple communication is needed by this group and it will eventually (pronounced: hopefully) get there. Until it does, you're going to keep hearing Fox News align it with the 'extreme left', and msnbc continue to suck it right into the left wing as well.
I'm a registered Republican, 30 years old, and I fully support this protest. I will be marching in Phoenix, in support of OWS, and I'm sure not a single person in the crowd is going to be upset AT me. Maybe...WITH me, but definitely not AT me.
I agree entirely that the passion is there, and that there's great potential for... something. What that something is though remains to be seen. The whole movement appears to be rudderless, and there's a damn good chance that it ends up going in what I would consider to be the wrong direction. The wrong directionists would seem to have the jump on grabbing that rudder, and based on the prevailing tone and message of the protests I'm afraid they wouldn't meet with much resistance. Good for you for doing your part to help sway its direction (in whichever direction you see fit).
I don't think we've even begun to see what the people are capable of, and if I had to guess I would speculate that these protests will end up evolving into something much, much bigger before all is said and done.
The real reason they need a stated, and (sadly) simple purpose is that just like the TEA party, they'll be co-opted if they don't. First paid shill who is eloquent will take it over, seen it happen time and time again -- and then it will be captive to that "vision" provided by someone cynical enough to harness the people power.
The TEA party resisted, loudly, the right-wing-religious nuts for what, a couple of months before they took it over with help from the Kochs and republicans? I even heard a debate between the TEA party guys and one of those right-wing-nut outfits, with the latter demanding entrance and power, and threatening the party with huge losses if they didn't come around. I was momentarily really happy at the response -- we'll let you wing nuts in, but our message is ours, not yours. Didn't last too long.
Well as of the fiasco on the Brooklyn Bridge, it's now in the media, as a mainstream point every night. Fox is calling it a incoherent drug party, and Rachel Maddow and the rest of MSNBC is pretty much taking the OWS protests under the left wing...waaaaaaaaaay out on the far left end of it. I'd rather see a people's movement. No parties involved. Maybe not having people wielding power, calling them mobs. Your voters are now 'mobs'? The OWS protestors are felons? I believe the original Tea Party was full of felonies if I remember correctly. Also, inb4 someone calls me out on using an edited version of a Jon Stewart joke. it's the truth. The last thing this protest needs is politicians saying that it's ok, or it's a disgrace...at this point, it's not their call. They're part of the problem, and we have all seen it.
Try to think of these things a bit more simply. A mugger comes along, robs a woman and rapes her. He sees people in the other side of the park and realizes he may not getaway with the crime. He turns to the sobbing, panting girl and puts his fingers around her neck...
Meanwhile, uncle bob is in China wondering if the loot was enough for a new shining city on a hill or if the locals need their own park rapist..
I made a real attempt to understand the tea party, what was there message, what were they trying to do, who was leading the movement, etc.
All I ever heard was that they didn't have any leader or message so they could not be 'co-opted' and that they REALLY liked the constitution, except the parts they didn't, and they wouldn't tell me which was which so I couldn't use that information against them.
No leader, no message, no 'platform' =
going nowhere.
I hope these 'occupiers' do better!
Stick to the Class warfare.
YES, the occupiers are heroes.
NO, YOU are not there either.
"Do something"?
You mean like crap on cop cars, while blogging about my idleness and ignorance on my $2000 Mac Book that I'm sure was paid from Daddy's trust fund, while sipping my $7.50 Soy Chai Sum Dum Fuk latte and chasing it with a $5 bottle of Fiji water?
No thanks. Most Americans ARE indeed doing "something", which is to say they're working to pay for their homes, put food on their tables for their children, etc. Most "40, 50 and 60 year olds " don't have the time to act like upper-middle class white douchebags currently "occupying" wall street, all the while paying taxes to support your idleness.
Go out and produce something, vagrant.
Reality is hard, I know.
He reminds me of Frank Burns as the 4077th takes incoming artillery:
Frank: Somebody do something! Anything!
Hawkeye: Right, Frank. Let's do anything.
+1 for MASH ref.
Col Flagg was my favorite:
Your words show your ignorance.
Funny they are against capitalism, whilst passing tweets on their iPhone, which was designed marketed and sold by a free market capitalist.
funny , you left out one step there shill.
tool time again.
at least try to be semi-honest once in a while.
I am sure your precise description would fit the radical guys, such as Ben Franklin, Samuel Adams, Thomas Jefferson back in the days, and I can go on and on.
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6219/6232633727_66dda12fb6_z.jpg
Many of those 40,50, and 60 year-olds are veterans who have fought for the Country. What is your damn history? What branch of service and years? If you are not a veteran and/or leaving for the frontlines of the movement, then even though your 1st Amendment was protected by others and you would never be told to shut the hell up by one of us, we can still say WHAT HAVE YOU DONE AND WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
@real (stupid) ZH has been on this and early: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/watch-latest-attempt-occupy-wall-street-weekend-live
They also were on The Empire State Rebellion called for by ANONYMOUS.
And if you have ever read the posts here you would see a long list of 'pro-occupy' types so while your at Camp Wallstreet catch up on your reading, see who your friends are.
Alas as far as the 40+ their not scared just tired. Tired of working, tired of debt, tired of pols, tired of carting their adult kids etc. cut them some slack. My guess is if you get pummeled by the man or pepper sprayed or the market takes a 40% hit, they'll join like an expirenced division in strategic reserve. They won't sit by to long as their darling and 'unique snowflakes' are bullied.
So to sum up Hero: buy silver, read before you opine, defualt on your credit card, get punched in the nose, and call your mom.
Do something?!!? Scared?!!?
Mmmm...took personal responsibility for my education, health, job, etc., and to vote/elect & correspond/meet with elected officials as to the direction of this country. I've also turned off the TV.......which went a long way in promoting my health, well being and furthering my career. Also participated in the first Tea Party rallies in my business attire hoping my voice of concern would be heard re: wanton waste of my hard earned tax dollars.....on top of the Vietnam anti-war, anti-draft rallies.
As for "scared"......only one time and that was when I came back from Nairobi after the '98 terrorist bombings with a heighten appreciation of how great this country is and how clueless and unappreciative the electorate is in terms of freedom and opportunity. As a result, the clueless have given us Obama, Pelosi and Reid....besides Frank and Schumer. Now the clueless 'occupy' because...?? But being clueless they can be manipulated and have no other skill sets of value to offer society. Frankly, you're the one who should be scared as now you've voted to morally, ethically and monetarily bankrupt a country on the 'hope' of an empty suit who is now laying the foundation for your future.
Enjoy!
Max entertainment = #OccupyBridgehampton
Wish the Europeans would follow our example and start #OccupyDexia or #OccupySlovakia
Actually, if you remember a bit, spain is already in "occupy everything" mode, and interestingly they never needed a bia... err, i mean DIRECTION.... and weren't "co-opted"..... that is, unless you consider anyone you dislike being among them "co-opted".
some people just want to watch the world burn...
One hopes we can occupy our country once again and take it back from those who have destroyed it.
Well, from what I see now from the live feed, it's just some people milling about. Where are the "Don't Tread on Me" flags??? Looks like a nice, well-behaved demonstration of Free Speech but hardly on the same level as storming the Bastille.
Right, "Don't Tread on Me Flag's" after consistent effort by Organized Tea Party to press followers to avoid.
Protestors shitting on cars, a bunch of drug dealers there avoiding law, don't go you'll be brainwashed to vote Obama, LOL!!!!
Tea Party coopted by corporate big daddies.
It's certainly a start. But the catalyzing event is still required.
Unfortunately this often means a protester getting shot. In the case of Iran, this still wasn't enough because the iron grip of the state was too great to be affected by massive protest.
it's not nice to tease...
Dow green
DOW +5....Robo so desperate he deems that post-worthy? Just give up, loser.
Gold yellow. Silver white. Dow right where it was on April 26, 2006. More than FIVE years ago, Robo.
Sorry. didn't go back far enough.
On December 29, 1999, the DOW closed at 11497. Now its at 11,432.
Robo? Any comments?
On December 31, 1999, gold was at 282. Its now at 1664.
Robo? Any comments?
DOW is less than it was 12 years ago, meanwhile everyone is huddled under a pile of coats in their closet muttering 'The FED banksters haz won'....whatever, COWARDS!