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Quotes Of The Day - Ron Paul Edition
Submitted by Jim Quinn of The Burning Platform
THOSE IN POWER FEAR RON PAUL AND HIS MESSAGE OF LIBERTY, FREEDOM, AND RESPOSIBILITY. THE QUOTES BELOW ARE THE TRUE REFLECTION OF THE MAN AND HIS IDEAS. IDEAS CAN CHANGE THE WORLD. DO YOUR PART TO FIGHT THE MISINFORMATION CAMPAIGN BEING WAGED BY THE CORPORATE MEDIA AND THEIR POLITICAL HACKS BY SENDING THIS LIST OF QUOTES TO EVERYONE IN YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS BOOK.
Quotes Of The Day - Ron Paul Edition
“Ideas are very important to the shaping of society. In fact, they are more powerful than bombings or armies or guns. And this is because ideas are capable of spreading without limit. They are behind all the choices we make. They can transform the world in a way that governments and armies cannot. Fighting for liberty with ideas makes more sense to me than fighting with guns or politics or political power. With ideas, we can make real change that lasts.”
- Ron Paul, Liberty Defined: The 50 Urgent Issues That Affect Our Freedom
“Under the United States Constitution, the federal government has no authority to hold states “accountable” for their education performance…In the free society envisioned by the founders, schools are held accountable to parents, not federal bureaucrats.”
- Ron Paul
“I’m convinced that you never have to give up liberties to be safe. I think you’re less safe when you give up your liberties.”
- Ron Paul
“Freedom is not defined by safety. Freedom is defined by the ability of citizens to live without government interference. Government cannot create a world without risks, nor would we really wish to live in such a fictional place. Only a totalitarian society would even claim absolute safety as a worthy ideal, because it would require total state control over its citizens’ lives. Liberty has meaning only if we still believe in it when terrible things happen and a false government security blanket beckons.”
- Ron Paul
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.”
- Ron Paul, The Revolution: A Manifesto
“Mr. Speaker, I once again find myself compelled to vote against the annual budget resolution for a very simple reason: it makes government bigger.”
- Ron Paul
“The most basic principle to being a free American is the notion that we as individuals are responsible for our own lives and decisions. We do not have the right to rob our neighbors to make up for our mistakes, neither does our neighbor have any right to tell us how to live, so long as we aren’t infringing on their rights. Freedom to make bad decisions is inherent in the freedom to make good ones. If we are only free to make good decisions, we are not really free.”
- Ron Paul
“Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.”
- Ron Paul
“Failure of government programs prompts more determined effort, while the loss of liberty is ignored or rationalized away…whether is it is the war on poverty, drugs, terrorism…or the current Hitler of the day, an appeal to patriotism is used to convince the people that a little sacrifice of liberty, here or there, is a small price to pay…The results, though, are frightening and will soon become even more so.”
- Ron Paul
“When the federal government spends more each year than it collects in tax revenues, it has three choices: It can raise taxes, print money, or borrow money. While these actions may benefit politicians, all three options are bad for average Americans.”
- Ron Paul
“A system of capitalism presumes sound money, not fiat money manipulated by a central bank. Capitalism cherishes voluntary contracts and interest rates that are determined by savings, not credit creation by a central bank.”
- Ron Paul
“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
- Ron Paul
“The original American patriots were those individuals brave enough to resist with force the oppressive power of King George…Patriotism is more closely linked to dissent than it is to conformity and a blind desire for safety and security.”
- Ron Paul
“As many frustrated Americans who have joined the Tea Party realize, we cannot stand against big government at home while supporting it abroad. We cannot talk about fiscal responsibility while spending trillions on occupying and bullying the rest of the world. We cannot talk about the budget deficit and spiraling domestic spending without looking at the costs of maintaining an American empire of more than 700 military bases in more than 120 foreign countries. We cannot pat ourselves on the back for cutting a few thousand dollars from a nature preserve or an inner-city swimming pool at home while turning a blind eye to a Pentagon budget that nearly equals those of the rest of the world combined.”
- Ron Paul
“It is no coincidence that the century of total war coincided with the century of central banking.”
“A citizen walking through the airport today is bombarded with 1984-style propaganda messages that are designed to make us fear some amorphous threat and also be suspicious of others. The government designs these messages to make us feel dependent and heavily lorded over in every aspect of our lives. These messages are becoming ever more pervasive, hitting us even in grocery stores when we are shopping.”
- Ron Paul, Liberty Defined: The 50 Urgent Issues That Affect Our Freedom
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he is nut job and his son is a racist nut job. so are most of you stupid nut jobs.
Hey kato, why is he a nut job?
Obviously nobody here agrees with you and I am setting you up to say something even dumber so we can all call you out on your own ignorance and probably make you cry.
Let's send Kato & Bernanke to Iran! They can be Batman & Robin and battle the Iranians by themselves!
Warmongers should fight their own wars with their own flesh, blood and money. Not everyone else's kids, tax dollars and nation.
Ron Paul will be remembered as the Cato of our age.
Mitt Romney and Barack will be remembered as the archangels of American imperial decline.
http://azizonomics.com/2011/12/19/romney-or-paul/
What if our active military personnel overwhelmingly supported a single candidate for President, would you listen?
As a country we pay a lot of lip service to them, about how they are wonderful because they risk their lives every day to protect our freedom. Shouldn't we listen to what their opinion is?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=WhxJ1XUGLR0
Hope is for mindless morons.
RP shoud not use the infamous word "hope" to lure voters. Unless he wants mindless idiots to vote for him.
Wait...that would be like...99% of voters.
soldiers don't fight with hope.
governing elites have 2 methods to stimulate economy when their games fail:
US is engaged in both.
Answer is the FORCE out the elites and change the rules of the game.
Speaking of voting. Here are primary dates for January and Feb, to vote for Ron Paul against Gingrich, Romney. If you're not registered in many states registration's at least month in advance. Tell friends in these states of Ron Paul.
* January 3 – Iowa Caucuses
* January 10 – New Hampshire
* January 28 – South Carolina
* January 31 – Florida
* February 4 – Nevada Caucuses, Maine Caucuses (state convention through February 11th)
* February 7 – Colorado Republican Caucuses, Minnesota Republican Caucuses, Missouri
* February 28 – Arizona , Michigan
http://race42012.com/2012-presidential-primary-and-caucus-calendar/
Some states like Florida have a closed primary, and you need to register as a repubilican to vote for Ron Paul. Deadlines are upon us, so do it today/now.
Tin Foil Hats and Black Helicopters are all the bullish rage on ZeroHedge!!! Bunch of Whack-a-doos!!!
He's too old to be President...
You prefer young dicators?
"Failure of gov. programs prompts more determined efforts, while the LOSS of LIBERTY is ignored or rationalized away. Ron Paul
Yes, someone actually capable of doing the job...
The Main Lame Ass Stream Media, proxy pundits and puppets of the Money Masters that they are (not to mention that every single newspaper, television outlet and radio station is owned by one of 8 corporations) are about to unleash a tsunami of libel upon Ron Paul, given Paul's surge in Iowa and New Hampshire, which represents a direct threat to the establishment's control of all politics on both sides of the 'different' (but the same, in reality, with a few social wedge issues tossed out to create the illusion of choice) parties.
END THE NON-FEDERAL FRACTIONAL RESERVE NON-BANK.
ENFORCE THE CONSTITUTION & RESTRICT GOVERNMENT TO ITS CONSTITUTIONAL ROLE IN THE LIVES OF AMERICANS.
BURN THE IDEA OF TOO-BIG-TO-FAIL TO THE GROUND.
BREAK UP THE MILITARY-INDUSTRIAL-FINANCIAL COMPLEX SIMPLY BY WITHHOLDING SUBSIDIZATION OF IT.
RESTORE THE RIGHTS OF THE STATES AND ELIMINATE FEDERAL MANDATES.
Kato spent to much time and money being indoctrinated at the university, learning to be ignorant, learning that government is good for you, and windbag professors are wise, learing to be cowed by snarky so-called liberals, and learning that freedom is free.
Sheep are good, they just lack vigilance.
My family and I would like to wish everyone on these pages all the very best for Christmas and the New Year, may the coming year bring you health, wealth and happiness, and that extends to our Muslin, Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist friends and every other creed, race and faith.
Have a good one...
Fwd: BOYCOTT ALL CNN SPONSORS!
December 23, 2011
Hello folks,
This has been a pet project for a long time. This good soul must have read one of these posts because shazam, here is the list that we are seeking of the sponsors of CNN and possibly some other lame stream media propaganda outlets.
No longer do we refer to any news or main stream news media as news or media. It will henceforth all be known as propaganda. Please set the pace people. From this time on, ALWAYS REFER TO THE MEDIA AS PROPAGANDA. Never call it main stream or news again. It is nothing less than propagandistic lies and dis/mis-information. Hang the label accordingly.
Here is the list below. Make this go viral and EVERYONE CALL these evil companies and tell them you will no longer buy or use any of their products as long as the sponsor the propaganda, and that you are encouraging a world wide boycott of their products for supporting the lies and dis/mis-information of the propaganda spewing cnn machine and other propaganda channels polluting the airwaves with the lies and BS to mislead and mind control the people.
From this link:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2128336/posts
I saw an earlier thread about boycotting CNN and contacting their sponsors. For what it's worth, I suffered through about 3 hours of Headline News to compile a list of some of their sponsors.
I hope this is helpful to anyone wanting to contact their advertisers.
Sorry I don't know how to make the hyperlinks work.
CNN Headline News Advertisers
HEC Paris MBA Program http://www.mba.hec.edu/mba/site/the_mba_that_builds_character.2.html Phone Number - France numbers only listed on web site
JK Harris and Company http://www.jkharris.com/?ml_source=networkcable Phone Number - 800-556-9795
AstraZeneca Pharmaceuticals http://www.astrazeneca-us.com/ Phone - 800-236-9933
E-Trade https://us.etrade.com/e/t/home Phone - 800-387-2331
Monex Precious Metals http://monex.com/ Phone - 800-444-8317
Sprint / Nextel http://www.sprint.com/index.html?brand=Nextel Sprint customers – call 1-888-211-4727 Nextel customers – call 1-800-639-6111
Select Quote http://www.selectquote.com/home2/homepage.html Phone 800-777-8300
Wells Fargo https://www.wellsfargo.com/ Phone 800-869-3557
AARP http://www.aarp.org/ Phone - 888-687-2277
Philips / Norelco http://www.usa.philips.com/index.page Phone - (212) 850-5000 Scott M. Weisenhoff CEO Philips Electronics North America email scott.m.weisenhoff@philips.com
Subaru http://www.subaru.com/tools/contactus/index.jsp Phone - 1-800-782-2783
Geico http://www.geico.com/about/contactus/ Phone - 800-861-8380
Boston Market http://www.bostonmarket.com/contacts Phone - 800-365-7000
Overstock.com https://help.overstock.com/cgi-bin/overstock.cfg/php/enduser/contact_pag... Phone 800-843-2446
Liberty Medical http://www.libertymedical.com/diabetes/contact-us/default.aspx?sem-lander-3 Phone 800-970-4831
Live Well Financial http://www.livewellfinancial.com/?gclid=CLTTo4eC5JYCFRlRagodaiF_Ow Phone – 800-917-1170
American Coalition for Clean Coal http://www.americaspower.org/Contact-Us Phone – 877-358-6699
University of Phoenix http://yourphoenixdegree.com/010/
Partnership for Prescription Assistance https://www.pparx.org/Intro.php Phone - 888-477-2669
Ehealth Insurance Services http://www.ehealthinsurance.com/ Phone – 800-977-8860
Dodge http://www.dodge.com/webselfservice/dodge/index.jsp?screenName=recall Phone - 1-800-853-1403
Hyundai http://www.hyundaiusa.com/global/contactus/main.aspx Phone – 800-633-5151
Jos A Banks Clothiers http://www.josbank.com/customer_service_main.tem Phone – 800-999-7472 or 800-285-2265
Career Builder.com http://www.careerbuilder.com/share/aboutus/pr_main.aspx Toll Free: (800) 638-4212
Zurich Financial Services http://www.zurich.com/main/services/contact/generalcontact.htm Swiss Phone numbers only
Johnson and Johnson https://secure-www.jnj.com/wps/wcm/jsp/contactUs.jsp Phone – 732-524-0400
US Home Auction http://www.ushomeauction.com/ Phone – 800-793-6107
Cisco http://www.cisco.com/web/siteassets/contacts/index.html Phone – 800-553-6387 or 408-526-4000
Exxon Mobil http://www.exxonmobil.com/SiteFlow/SuppInfo/Contacts/SF_CT_BusHeadquarte... Phone – 972-444-1000
Jitterbug http://www.jitterbug.com/ContactUs/ Phone – 800-918-8543
PLEASE ADD TO THIS LIST IF YOU CAN AND PASS IT ON.
EVERYONE MUST CALL THESE COMPANIES AND LET THEM KNOW WHAT YOU THINK OF THE LIES AND PROPAGANDA OF THE CNN TV STATION THEY SUPPORT AND SPONSOR.
IF ANYONE WANTS TO WRITE A FORM LETTER TO SEND THEM, PLEASE DO SO AND POST IT ALL OVER HERE SO EVERYONE CAN ALSO SEND THESE LETTERS. PERHAPS OL ROSE WILL FOR A NICE GIFT. IT IS CHRISTMAS AFTER ALL!
In Service,
ROSE KING
PS: Be aware of possible false flags and the escalation of more war in new (Persian)Gulf of Tonkin?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/iran-launching-massive-ten-day-war-game-to...
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Looks like I was boycotting CNN and I didn't even know it...I think I'm boycotting MSNBC too....I never watch that show either.
Me too!
Sorry I don't know how to make the hyperlinks work.
Open the HTML EDITOR.
To embed the link so that it shows in its in a seperate tab do this:
For example to <a href="http://www.zerohedge.com/comment/reply/442086/2008932" target="_blank">show this reply in a new tab</a>.
It will look like this after you click the HTMP editor "Update" button:
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Conversely (luv that word!) you could highlight the phrase you want to link and then press the "link" button on the RTF editor's tool bar.
Regarding the false flag. The fact that Iran (as well as others who have suffered US drone massacres in that region) can take control of a US drone It would not be surprising to have an false flag incident involving the drones flying over US cities. Of course it would be immediately be recognized as a false flag because Iranians were only able to control that drone because it came within range of Iranian military transmitters. The Iranians don't have a satellite network to take control drones flying over US cities from inside Iran.
Doing what job? The job of destroying the Constitution? The job of legislating immoral laws? The job of detaining American citizens at length under NDAA? You need to wake up!
I mean the job of President for at least 4 years, none of this shite.
You need to chill out...
*Dictators
This post (a list of RP Quotes) is absolutely the best thing Jim Quinn has ever written.
At $400,000 annually for life dont we want old presidents?
At least my hat will keep my head dry when it rains and my black helicopter looks cooler than your pink one.
oooh, ooh, when I pick up my black helicopter, I'll add on a nice 30mm chain gun. That will be awesome. Of course I will need to take some pilot lessons. Anybody here offering some helo lessons?
Wouldn't recommend it. Too many moving parts.
Hi Nouriel.
cute, I never knew "stimulate" was a synonym for control
that does remind me of those experiments they do to rats with reward. If they do what you want they would get a "treat" of narcotic or something to flood the rat's brain with dopamine. Pretty soon you got the rat conditioned to do anything to get that hit..er, I mean stimulys.
Kato's mom needs a nut job
Redpill, No you shouldn't. When all's said and done they swore an oath to protect the country from all enemies 'both foreign and domestic'. They aren't allowed to decide who the enemy is, especially if they are domestic, which means that they swore an oath to uphold the wishes of the government of the day.
No, you should not be listening to them anymore than you should anyone else It is they you are likely to be fighting when the shit hits the fan now.
Thank you for clearly articulating the fascist position. It helps.
It's not fascist, it's universal, always was....
only fools think they're fighting for the country.
an oath to protect the nation, not the nation's dictators and their whims.
Maybe you need to enlist and see what "the government of the day" commands you to do, just to make their buddies richer and secure greater power for themselves.
Also, you'd be amazed how many of the vets and active military are going to be on the people's side. The troops are exposed to the realities of our government's policies faster than the average citizen, and many of them are angry.
'Maybe you need to enlist and see what "the government of the day" commands you to do' - Maybe I did once, and maybe you should go and read an Oath yourself; maybe even utter it and see how it feels. I say 'an' Oath because there are more than one, and they all say basically the same thing. You swear to the US Constitution, others to the Queen or governments various but you still swear to political leaders somewhere under the guise of patriotism. Like you have some say in the matter of who the enemy is, or that you have some input into what is now right and wrong. You can bitch and whine on these pages but you cannot decide who the enemy is. Go figure.
I think you'll be amazed at how many vets might voice their support but will ultimately do as they're fucking told since their careers always have and always will depend on it, no matter what, and especially when it comes down to who feeds them and their families.
Reluctantly, I agree. This is part of what compelled me to resign my commission before I had been promoted past O-3. Any higher, and the temptation to put career advancement above duty to the Constitution becomes formidable, if not overwhelming.
Whilst I draw the line at labelling service personel with any label, it is good now and then to cross the path of others with the integrity and will to make decisions based on their beliefs in right and wrong, and not just self and personal career, or because it is simply too easy to continue to stay in service. My complaint is not about the services or serving personel, but about the situation that requires that we swear to something we have no control over, and I merely make the point that it is not yours, or mine, or anybody else's decision to decide what is in the best interests of the Constitution, if that is what you believe in, but that you can be shot for upholding what you believe your Constitution means if you contradict the opinion of others that govern...
The Constitution means nothing other than to the idealists that believe in it. Like the Magna Carta, it is rallying call, an excuse for poor people to die for, something to be set aside when others deem it in the national best interests. Something is very wrong somewhere, and too few seem to realise it...
there's some obvious dissonance here:
how are these oath-takers reconciling their "promise" to "protect the nation" in the face of the obvious corporate invasions they volunteered to kill for?
how are these same people to be admired for their perspectives, in the light of their choices? how are they, according to you, "on the people's side" when armed to kill the "other people" - and still drawing wages & benefits for doing so?
when these keepers of the oaths & protectors of the nation stop straddling the fence and begin to show some principles, I might be persuaded that they"re "on the people's side" - the people of the "enemy" and the people of the "nation". . .
swore an oath to uphold the wishes of the government of the day
Courious as to whom [exactly] you might consider as the government "of the day"?
Hint: Remember 3rd grade and that catchy little phrase we all learned: "of the people, by the people and for the people"?
You should have studied - studious individuals get laid - dorks tug solo during lonely midnight confessionals. I'll get you soap and a catcher's mitt for Christmas!
tosser.
From "The Bill of No Rights:"
ARTICLE VIII
You do not have the right to demand that our children risk their lives in foreign wars to soothe your aching conscience. We hate oppressive governments and won't lift a finger to stop you from going to fight if you'd like. However, we do not enjoy parenting the entire world and do not want to spend so much of our time battling each and every little tyrant with a military uniform and a funny hat.
Interesting comment on Reuters blog, and others comments that talk of his support for Martin Luther King day.
"Dear Mr. Hosenball,
Please comment publicly on Ron Paul’s compelling anti-racist speech, delivered at the PBS Republican Primary Debate at Morgan State University on Sept. 27, 2007, hosted by noted African American media personality, Tavis Smiley:
http://youtu.be/i3EADdr-5AY
In this pronouncement, Paul denounces racism & the prejudicial targeting of minorities in our criminal justice system, which uses the War on Drugs as a cover to suppress minority political action at home & to exert perverse political influence in Latin America. Unlike the other GOP or even Democratic candidates, who trade in cheap, sterile statements, Ron Paul expresses a substantive commitment to ending the worst forms of institutionalized racism present in US political structure today. He opposes the War on Drugs, 3 strikes your out laws, racist Voter ID laws, detention without trial, and denounces rampant Islamophobia cloaked as National Defense. Paul genuinely promotes transparency – unlike Barack Obama who has asserted, contrary to campaign claims, the right of his administration to neither confirm nor deny the existence of key documents, a move all previous presidents under the FOIA had not even considered. This emphasis on transparency could likely bring to light extremely disturbing but covert programs that have racist agendas, of the ilk of Oliver North’s famed Rex84.
Paul is openly ANTI-racist and – what is even more important than that – would seek to rid our criminal IN-justice system of its endemic corruption which intentionally and unfairly targets minorities, denies them due process and disproportionately imprisons them while letting similar offenders who are either richer or of a different ethnicity walk free.
Dr. Paul has also been interviewed by Tavis Smiley on several occasions.
Please weigh in on Ron Paul’s repeated public statements of admiration of civil rights leaders Rosa Parks and Martin Luther King, Jr. Please review his vote to approve Martin Luther King, Jr. Day and his bid to contribute personal money to award Rosa Parks an honorary medal.
Please comment on Dr. Paul’s delivery of minority babies in his private OBGYN practice free of charge.
On behalf of journalistic integrity, please comment publicly on Dr. Paul’s Sept. 27, 2007 pronouncement referenced above.
- Caleb King
Jamaica Plain, MA
this is beautiful. will never hear it from the media though. fuckers.
fuckers is the right word
The only good thing is that you know Paul is gaining traction when the corporate media starts to freak out and engage in the full-on smear campaign. He may be an ideologue when it comes to his free market as the answer to all problems worldview, but he's not a racist with a hate agenda. I suspect the media's attempt to cast him that way will backfire. He's going to get a lot of publicity out of this, and his supporters are likely to spend a lot of energy educating the public about his real views.
You have to admire the balls of anyone willing to carry the can for this lot, to go down in history as the man responsible for collapsing the US and global economy and brought the country to the edge of anarchy.
Or perhaps he won't... Perhaps he's bullshittin'...
The end result will be no different just because Paul is Pres, It is still financial collapse and he knows it. He will not implement the changes that everyone here is expecting...
Maybe he can't stop the inevitable from happening, but like the doctor he is, he will show us the x-ray of the cancer that's killing us and give us options for destroying it and preventing it from coming back. The other presidential options will just carry on the kabuke dance and protecting the powers that be.
That's ok, as long as you don't expect anything more than that.
Like I said, it takes real balls to carry the can for this lot, forever, however long that is...
At the point we are currently at I don't think it can hurt. He may not do anything but I am still voting for him because we need a positive figure for our country who is not a puppet.
Will he change anything? Don't know and nobody can tell. But Obama can't win again and neither can those other ass clowns in the republican party. If they do I am not sure what will happen and to be frank I am not sure what we as brothers and sisters will have to face.
Fair comment...
I am of the opinion that you are a fool.
That's because you can't see past your own naivety...
Glad you can tell the fucking future now. Wanna help me out with some Lottery Tickets? You people are not only pathetic with your slanderous BS, but also because you do not actually understand the subject you are so vocal in speaking on.
Then educate us. You clearly are a fanatic willing to slag off anyone who dares to disagree with your opinion, simply because they say something you don't like. Only one step away from the 'Brown Shirts' really...
Tell me where I'm wrong.
Perhaps you would be gracious enough to tell me what you think I don't actually undersatnd?
It would be a lot easier and require absolutely no "typing" whatsoever, to tell you where you appear to be "right".
Are you asserting an obvious "non position on anything" out of some deep sense of patriotism you lost somewhere between nothingness and eternity?
What do you want from the executive branch? It's easy to say what one does not want.
BTW: The last time I saw someone decked out in a Harlequin mask (and adorned in the finest pair of "Joan Crawford Fuck Me Quick Pumps", I ever saww), they were strutting down Hotel Street in Honolulu shouting "8 inches or less". Are you a mahu from Wahiawa?
That's because you're too fucking stupid to see past a username, which means nothing...
Harlequin - exactly, not to mention in order to get laws passed don't they have to go through either the house or senate who will kill any one of these changes Dr. Paul proposes. Unless you get Ron Paul to cover all seats and votes in the house and congress he will be a lame duck from the moment he gets in.
Thats true but what are we suppose to do. Just let our children's future go to hell. I am not. I may not win but am willing to fight and die for our children's future any fucking day of the week.
What I see is maybe he will not get anything done. But guess what if he is the president and can start saying what politicians are against the people in his state of the union address and other speeches. Sometimes nothing has to be done to change the world. Let the norons in the house and senate doom themselves which will happen if RP gets in office because he will make people start to see they have been lied to for a very long time. There is always 2 sides to everything although the outcome may not be what we want at that very moment doesn't mean we are taking a step back either.
Merry Christmas everyone.
Yes indeed. I just returned from driving to the store and heard on the radio a report about this supposed Ron Paul supported letter. Then I get home and NewsMax (Republican site) has sent out an email with this headline "Ron Paul Signed Racist Letter
Ron Paul has denied knowing that a newsletter bearing his name and from which he profited offered racist views, anti-Semitic diatribes and claimed the 1993 World Trade Center bombing may have been orchestrated by Israel. Reuters reports that a letter promoting the newsletter bearing Paul's signature has surfaced."
You know that the old school GOP cronies are getting awfully worried about Ron Paul when they resort to stuff like this.
I wrote this a while back (early December):
"TPTB have been trying to 'market' someone, anyone, that would resonate with the voters more than Paul. There has been a steady stream of 'new' candidates that they have paraded in front of the voters....the latest of which is Gingrich. They enter the race, they are lifted to the top of the heap by the MSM and then they fall when TPTB find that they are not really popular and have a lot of baggage. Each time the conversations from the MSM couch the race as between Romney and the new guy/gal. Each time they completely ignore Paul. This shows how desperate they are to marginalize Paul.....he challenges the status quo. They are almost as afraid of Romney because they are not sure he would go along with everything they require of him. This is the reason they brought Huckabee in during the 2008 Iowa and southern primaries. This is also the reason they are using Gingrich. Gingrich could not win the election going head to head against an incumbent. TPTB are much more ready to deal with the devil they know than the devil they don't know and the top of their list for 'Devil they don't know' is #1: Ron Paul and #2: Mitt Romney. They are doing all they can to defeat first Paul and second Romney."
This type of stuff makes me want to scream -What is it about 'WE ARE OUT OF MONEY' that the GOP does not understand? Do they think it does not apply equally to Defense as it does to everything else? The following, which I wrote in early November, applies:
"Fri, 11/04/2011 - 13:34
.....If voting really worked, then Ron Paul would not be getting marginalized and relegated to the sidelines by the MSM. The only 'choice' we will get in the coming election are candidates that have been completely vetted by TPTB. Right now, on the Repub side of the picture, it is Romney and Cain. This whole thing with Cain lately is a rouse the sheeple sympathy ploy. Rally the troops! What a farce! Two entities hold all the cards (to the GOP); Wall Street and the military industrial complex. Paul has annoyed both by demanding the Fed be abolished on the one hand and that the wars be stopped and troops brought home on the other. A grass roots campaign that talks straight with the voters is the only chance he has. I just hope the voters actually ignore all the misdirection and do some thinking this time around."
What we are seeing now shows how the GOP and its current leaders are shackled by these well monied interests. As I stated above, the only way for Ron Paul to win is for thinking people to ignore the MSM attacks and attempts to marginalize him. They continue to spout that he is only winning in Iowa because he has a superior organization and, of course, it has nothing to do with his integrity nor his policy stances. The rank and file need to wake up and see what is going on here. They also must realize that we can no longer afford the expense of the status quo.
...and the definition of the 'status quo' is:
by r101958
on Mon, 04/04/2011 - 11:24
#1132500
I'll say it once (last year before the elections) and I'll say it again now:
"Current politics is best represented by a two headed dragon. Politicians pay lip service to opposing ideologies but both the Republican and Democratic parties are part of the same big government dragon body. The body is moving in one direction; bigger and more powerful government. More control over the electorate. Having the two parties serves a greater purpose though....it divides the populace (sheeple?) into two camps that are always at each others' throat. I think this tactic is called divide and conquer. Until we wake up and get away from the 'Repubs this....' or 'Dems that....' blame game then we will be slowly boiled...just like the frog in the frying pan...all while the dragon stands by watching and laughing."
And .....the sheep continue bleeting.
"it divides the populace (sheeple?) into two camps that are always at each others' throat. I think this tactic is called divide and conquer. Until we wake up and get away from the 'Repubs this....' or 'Dems that....' blame game"
Sound anything like what has been going on in Wash, D.C. ??
Maybe people are finally sick of politicians who claim they are working for the voters, but allow lobbyists and big donors to write our laws.
Maybe people are fed up with the Federal Reserve holding rates at rock bottom enabling the big financial firms to make millions with cheap Fed loans, while the rest of us get 0.005% on our savings accounts.
Maybe they are getting tired of bailing out the bankers who created the worthless mortgage-backed securities that fill our pension plans.
Maybe they've decided the government should not have the right to detain citizens indefinitely on vague suspicions.
Maybe they are beginning to realize that freedom IS actually important after all.
Maybe Ron Paul's time has come.
Ron Paul's quotes are great.
I also like his own version of "Chuck-Norris"-like facts:
him look shorter.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vthdr96EDnE
One of my fav Ron Paul Quotes:
"You don't have freedom because you are a hyphenated American; you have freedom because you are an individual" - Ron Paul
You don't have freedom because you are a rehypothecated American.
You make slavery sound complicated. ;-)
That does explain a lot, indeed.
oh really?
tell that to the female individuals Mr. Paul, the ones you feel called to limit, through government decree, their choices on body sovereignty, while remaining silent on the responsibility of the equally responsible male.
as yet, I remain unconvinced.
Ron Paul is running for a Federal office and says that the Federal government should have no say in the legality of abortion.
As to male responsibility for pregnancies, you presumably believe that bearing a child is solely the choice of the woman and that the man has no say in determining whether that child will or will not be aborted. It is the "pro-choice" crowd who are hypocritical on this issue. If bearing a child is a woman's choice and hers alone then why would you expect a man to be financially liable for that child?
Crock, we've argued this case before, and despite your love of having the last word, you still have not addressed ANY of the points I offered you.
for the record, the CHOICE of whether to carry a FOETUS full term should be the CHOICE of the female whose body will be doing the carrying - IF she chooses to take into consideration the feelings of the man who contributed to the conception, that is her prerogative - but ONLY the female is bearing the responsibility of carrying in her body, only she knows all the subtle reasons why she will make the choice - this is NOT the realm of government, nor the State - this is the realm of the individual female, it is HER body.
again, you have argued from your particular point of view based on your personal history - we needn't go over that again.
this is not on-topic - my question remains, IF Ron Paul wants to use government to deny a female the right to a safe abortion, THEN what is his stance on the sperm donor's equal responsibility in the conception of the foetus? that is the only point I'm interested in, and you refuse to go there.
All you have to do is look at his own life. He didn't knock up Carol and leave her high and dry.
again off-topic fan boy nonsense - you are incapable of answering my question.
"Fan boy" is such a stupid phrase. Only a doofus would use it.
Women sue men for child support every day. Do you think that Ron Paul will outlaw that?
lol, you're like a rapid rat terrier - NEVER answer the question, ALWAYS change the subject by asking a different question, and ALWAYS come back for the last post.
your RPaul fan boy stance will see the story unfold over the upcoming months. . . enjoy.
get in that last word post now pet.
Here's the question you asked:
Here's the answer I gave:
What part of that do you fail to comprehend?
*gah*
again, you completely ignored the "what is his stance" despite me bolding it, and answer with yet another question!
IF Ron Paul wants to deny a female the right to an abortion, ie, enforcing a pregnancy to birth, THEN what is his plan for the sperm donor? IF he removes a female's right to body sovereignty, HOW is he holding the sperm donor responsible in any way?
IF the onus is on the female to use the court system, HOW is Ron Paul holding the sperm donor equally responsible for the conception of the foetus?
who pays for the full lifetime support of the child? the female? the state? does Ron Paul have a platform for this? is there anything in his platform for addressing the issue of enforced births and the subsequent social consequences?
I'm obviously not interested in your opinions or arguments - does Ron Paul have a response to this, or does his desire to enforce births stop with the birth?
this is the truncated "conversation" we keep having - I've yet to hear anyone tell me what Ron Paul's stated plan is, beyond denying a female her body sovereignty based on his religious beliefs.
my bottom line: how is removing the right to decide what happens to your body the business of government, and only something that applies to females, how is this considered "libertarian" at all? because if it's REPUBLICAN, and Xtian Republican, then yeah, I get it. . . same old same old.
Men are already held responsible for child support with lawsuits, DNA testing, payroll garnishment and imprisonment. Ron Paul has not stated that he wants this to change therefor we can conclude that his plan is to allow this system to continue. Is there something more you believe should be done, castration, perhaps? If so, spell it out instead of beating around the bush (no pun intended).
Just because you don't like an answer doesn't mean one hasn't been given.
you're a hoot, and a real example of a voter - assume your candidate will do what you think or hope he will.
fact is you're making this shit up, and you don't know Paul's stance, and it appears no one here does either.
done.
You still haven't said what you think should be done that isn't already being done in regards to making a man pay child support. You must have something in mind or are you just blowing smoke? If it's a good idea I'll call the doctor and let him know about it.
"...delivered Chuck Norris."
Priceless!
as long as he opposes "racist Voter ID laws" he will never be elected. why does he think that he is always shut out and someone like Obama can get in? elections are rigged, voter ID is one tool against the fraud.
i'll second that. why Kato? i'm curious. what facts do you have to support your assertion?
Are you serious? Do you do realize the person you're asking is someone that watches for Ron Paul threads so that he/she can make sure the first comment is an ad hominem attack on Ron Paul?
If you count the number of times kato makes a point to tell other commenters that he/she is a republican, it's pretty obvious. The Obama-ites do not like the fact that there are people on the left that care about more than just words. Their answer. Words.
I don't know what Kato's problem is, but I'll bet it's hard to pronounce.
Considering the speed of the post, I would postulate that in addition to what ever it is, he also suffers from hypervigilance.
Kato's problem is a condition known as Dingleberiberi. It's a neurological ailment which causes him to cling to assholes.
I'll tell you why Ron Paul is a nut job. He believes in god ("deities" won't even get capitalization in this exposition). Anyone who beieves in god is a moron. straight up bra. How about the tooth fairy? Candyman? Jason? Hopefully Ron Paul will see his grandparents in heaven. How about an atheist candidate???
"We get our rights from our Creator as individuals. So every individual should be treated the same way." -Ron Paul
Anyone referring to the Creator in the 21st century is a fucking amateur and will believe anything. Air me out but remember Baby Jesus' birthday is nigh. Here is what I don't understand about Christianity (I'm American and very atheist).....how can you base your life around an illiterate semite who ran around palestine 2,000 years ago claiming he was the son of god? How fucking stupid can you be? Ron Paul can take his religious ideas and sodomize goats but he ain't cutting it for the simple reason that all religious people are sheep.
This atheist is happily voting for Ron Paul. God bless us, every one.
Youre "throwing" your vote away (because Ron Paul ain't making it and you know it) and concomitantly supporting the most evil institution (church beats Goldman and Senate all day E'ry DAY) which makes you a coward AND LOWLIFE. Vote early and often but know. Where do you draw the line when whoring your beliefs?
I draw the line at trying to convince a fool to do a wise thing.
Who's the more foolish, the fool (ron paul) or the fool who follows him (you)?
you're right, everything's fine, nothing to see here, move along. I mean, we're only $15 trillion + in debt, 42 million on foodstamps, can now be put 'away' with NDAA and our warlords are planning another war. So who's really the foolish one? Go back to your ignorant, induced coma.
It is not yet too late for your poor lost soul.
+1 for Mr. McMurtry. Bullet holes in the mailbox.
Who's the more foolish, the fool (ron paul) or the fool who follows him (you)?
My money is on the outlier... The fool is the guy pulling out all the stops to convince him he's wrong and making an ass out of himself in the process...
Yes, and your efforts are lost on idiots like jonny holmes, er...LarryDavis
"(church beats Goldman and Senate all day E'ry DAY)"
sorry you got molested by a priest, little one. Only that can explain such a stupid comment. The rest of us are ass-raped every day by the bankers and government, every person on earth, every day of the year.
YOU DUMB MOTHERFUCKER ARE YOU REALLY SAYING GOLDMAN IS WORSE THAN RELIGION?? SOME THINGS ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN DEBT BRO. NO MOLESTATION HERE. BY EVEN TACITLY SUPPORTING RELIGION YOU ARE SUPPORTING OPRESSION. CAPITALISM IS A BITCH BUT LOOK BEYOND DEBT FOR 13 SECONDS.
That thing about typing in all caps means you're shouting is just a ruse, y'know.
Ron Paul / Flying Spaghetti Monster 2012!
Hey, Larry.
What's the difference between a rabid atheist and an avowed, bible-thumping Christian?
Answer: Nothing more than the focus of his adoration.
I ain't got no tolerance for either of them.
RockyRacoon
What's the difference between a rabid atheist and an avowed, bible-thumping Christian?
I ain't got no tolerance for either of them.
Why?,could it be fear of the unknown?,or just Christians in general.
?Maybe you prefer Islam.
A brief perusal of the History of the Catholic Church should explain all you need to know about "organized" religion.
Go forth, alleviate some suffering: http://www.worldvision.org
"fear of the unknown" is only temporarily resolved in one's mind by entertaining fantasies about "hereafters" - pie-in-the-sky-when-you-die is a great cattle-prod over centuries. . .
as the to the Xtians "in general" - no problems with them sticking to their own venues, but they need to get the hell out of government, which aspires to representing "everyone" - it needs to do that fairly.
oh, and the Zionist-Xtians, as you profess to be, they need to go HOME.
Rocky, you can take your bible humpin' self elsewhere. Tis the season of the Solstice. Peace.
Oh look, weinerdog43 is reading! Read, weinerdog43, read.
Next, try comprehending what it is you've read.
Hell. Ya can't even not care and get away with it around here. I'd confess to agnosticism but somebody would have a problem with that as well.
I’ll tell you the difference....about 40 IQ points. Play the middle like a the rodent you are.
Don't dis the raccoon. He can take care of himself. I like his posts.
Larry, If you believe you are an athiest then you do have a belief - is that not just another form of religion?
Blankman, no it does not. Stop trying to be cute with someone who has an IQ above 170. I don't believe praying to some idiotic god like thor or zeus or whatever the fuck jerkoff god christians and jews believe in. Calling people stupid for mentally living in the middle ages (seems like zero hedge people might be interested in indulgences) isn't a religion. look up the definition of religion and get back to me. try getting laid once in a while too. you seem up tight.
Looked it up an it boils down to "a set of beliefs".
I was once in your shoes I had a deep hatred for anything having to do with organized religions. It is a fire that consumes. I still believe most organized religions in the world are corrupt and only have their own best interests at heart - not the interests of thier parishioners. However, where we differ is I am not trying to push my beliefs on others through intimidation and force. I try to allow the person to make up his own mind in the techings that i offer. Those teachings include belief in oneself (your own internal God) before belief in a religion. If you do not have a belief in yourself how can you believe in anything?
In addition, bragging about your IQ being 170 is rather impetuous. I have a feeling that is not your true IQ - it is kind of like having a big dick, you don't have to brag about it, you just know you have it.
I do have a big dick btw and I don't have problem saying it because its true. Is it bragging to calmly state my penis is 3 or 4 standard deviations larger than normal? It's all relative I guess. To me, it doesnt sound like bragging. in talking about my dick, I certainly dont want to elicit feelings of jealousy or make anyone else feel insecure but rather simply convey the size of my own manhood. Religion tells you that talking about genitals is bad and dirty which is why you think one shouldn't discuss it. You are after all a sheep. Is it bragging to say my arms are longer than yours (or just dick)? I like it when people have complete sets of information which religion really impedes (don't investigate take god's word for it-yeah right). Similarly, I'm not trying to proselytize the readers of zero hedge. I was originally stating that I wouldn't vote for someone (ron paul) who believed in god because in my opinion it implies that person is idiotic/confused. Why is that such a big deal? I'll tell you why.......because everyone knows religion is fucking scam and no one really wants to admit it. It's like taking a big loss in a stock.....you invested all this time and money and got nothing back. Sell your losers. Being an athiest should not be a big deal but obviously it is. Why the fuck is religion so sacred? You guessed it.
Pathetic is what I'd describe someone that has to both brag about an IQ of over 170 and a big dick! Whether true or not, you have a lot of growing up to do.
Why is it bragging? Can;t someone state a characteristic of his without it being labeled as bragging? Is saying im 6'4 bragging because Im a few inches taller than the average american? Who cares if someone's penis is smaller or larger than someone else? Why is talking about one body part bragging and another not? Answer: inhibition (religion).
My avatar eats avatars like yours for lunch. Especially if they're soaked with the juice off a pulled pork BBQ sandwich! Throw in a few stray fries left inside and you're a goner.
the most evil institution (church beats Goldman and Senate all day E'ry DAY)
Please elaborate on what you mean here. The "church" can mean a whole lot of different things. Some very misled folks think the papacy and Catholicism are synonymous with Christianity, for example. "Church" means something very specific to me, and no one would confuse that with an evil institution.
I would rather vote for Obama than any of the Republican plastic smile sycophant fucktards that are in the running. At least I know I can always make money betting against Obama and his retard base.
Ron Paul or nothing!
This die hard Liberal will be voting for Mr. Paul despite his registration as a Republic. Based upon the current media bias against him, Lincoln could never have been elected either.
Throwing away my vote? I'd rather waste my vote than vote to waste the freedoms that our ancestors fought so hard to give us.
Ron Paul: Accept no substitute.
"Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost. " John Quincy Adams
A vote for Ron Paul shows you understand the monumental challenges we face as a country. Don't abdicate this time, Vote for the one man willing to take on the Federal Reserve and the Military Industrial Complex. "Don't BE A TWIT, VOTE for RON PAUL"
Go ahead and put another vote on your shackle's, bitch. We all know you like the chains around your neck because you're too fucking chicken shit to experience freedom. pussy.
BLOW ME. WHY NOT RETURN TO POPULAR SOVEREIGNTY? IF THE STATES WANT SLAVERY SO BE IT.......IF A STATE WANTS TO BAN ABORTION NO PROBLEM. IF A STATE WANTS TO MAKE SCHOOL PRAYER COMPULSORY THEN IT'S COOL. WHAT YOU THINK IS FREEDOM ISN"T FREEDOM IT"S A BUNCH OF WEIRDOS TURNING AMERICA INTO GERMANY PRE 1880. I DON"T WANT TO LIVE IN HESSE AND NOT BE ABLE TO TRAVEL TO PRUSSIA BECAUSE OF ALL THE RELIGIOUS ASSHOLES WHO ERECT CULT LIKE STATES IN FAVOR OF "FREEDOM." FUCK ALABAMA, TEXAS, AND ALL THOSE PLACES WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO REMOVE EVOLUTION FROM THE CLASS ROOM AND CONTRACEPTION FROM THE BEDROOM. I WANT AN AMERICA WHERE MY CHILDREN CAN MOVE FREELY WITHOUT FEAR OF HAVING QUIRKY STATE LAWS AND BORN_AGAIN REPUBLICAN IDEALS AS THE DEFACTO STANDARDS. YOUR FREEDOM IS THE MIDDLE AGES TO ME. I WANT A PROGRESSIVE AMERICA.
Your progressive America doesn't want to understand that the constitution already provides for all the things that you posted about.. but your FUCKING PROGRESSIVE FUCKING, FUCKETY FUCK FUCK LEADERS WANT TO KEEP YOU IN SHACKLES WHILE YOU FUCKING SCRATCH THE WALLS FOR FREEDOM.. YOU DUMB FUCKING CUNT!
RON PAUL'S CAMPAIGN WILL BE DEAD SOON THEN YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE GUN RANGE AND DECRY TRUE FREEDOM. BACK TO THE TRAILER PARK. AN ANTI-ABRTIONIST RACIST RELIGIOUS ASSHOLE IS NOT THE ANSWER BUT MERELY A METAPHOR FOR HOW FUCKED THE AMERICAN SYSTEM REALLY IS. THERE ARE NO GOOD CANDIDATES. A REAL SOLUTION WOULD REQUIRE SOMETHING MUCH MORE RADICAL THAN YOU OR ANY OTHER GROUP CAN MUSTER. AGAIN, I CAN'T STRESS THIS ENOUGH, PAUL WILL NOT WIN OR EVEN DENT THE ELECTION (ROMNEY IS MUCH WORSE OF A CANDIDATE AND WE ALL KNOW ABOUT OBAMA). AMERICA IS FUCKED. ACCEPT IT.
LOL! So in reality you're nothing more than Chicken Shit wannabe Revolutionary. You are pathetic. You haven't even the Intestinal Fortitude to actually state what you stand for, because youstand for nothing.
(S)He who eyes, let him see:
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A government big enough to give you everything you desire is big enough to take everything away from you!
do you get the idea that there is one person using several alias's ?
LarryDavis is raving and drooling about well choreographed wedge issues, indicating that he drinks the kool-aid and goes back for refills. The degree of butthurt that he's exhibiting corresponds to the magnitude of control that the propaganda has over him.
Shorter ugrev: I totally suck Hitler's dick and can't wait for my little brownshirt army to march around and bully people.
Needs more vulgarity.. try including a few "fucks" in there and I might stamp it as 100% anti-asshat approved. :)
Your Prozac refill is ready to be picked up ....
I'm URGING YOU TO PLEASE VOTE FOR RON PAUL. WRITE IN IF NEED BE. ANYONE STUPID ENOUGH TO VOTE FOR RON PAUL DESERVES TO HAVE HIS/HER VOTE GO TO OBLIVION. A VOTE FOR PAUL (WHO IS A REPUBLICAN) IS BASICALLY HELPING OBAMA. YOU ARE HELPING RE-ELECT OBAMA (SLIGHTLY BETTER THAN ROMNEY).
Voting is consent to be governed. Don't vote.
Dorothy, meet Alice.
WaterWings
Voting is consent to be governed. Don't vote.
NOT VOTING is consenting to be RULED.
no it isn't.
not believing in the voting paradigm is moving beyond the fantasy of living in a nationstate that represents the individual - not voting allows the mind to accept the truth of the situation, and prepare / act accordingly. . .
all voting does is continue to delay the truth, and perpetuate the myth that "you" are somehow participating in a "democracy" or whatever you name this facism.
voters just wait for the border collie & the whistle, to see which way they need to run. . .
Best post of the thread hands down. You get it Cathartes. The rest of these assholes think an-ex gynecologist is going to save america (the same people who think they will see their grandparents in heaven). Whatever you are drinking I'll have one.
Larry
Church, god, atheist, agnostic …… it would be political suicide to say you didn’t believe in god. Science and logic don’t vote, the sheeple do. I used to work with a guy who said “How can anybody with even just the basics of science and biology believe in any of that crap” Of course my answer was most people don’t believe in that crap they just won’t admit it.
It doesn’t matter if Ron Paul believes or not, he would have to say he does – he is not stupid.
I like honesty.......where else will paul lie or prostitute himself in favor of getting support? all politicans suck. time for real change. ron paul might be better than romney or obama for that matter but isn't the answer and will not get elected. voting for paul is like voting for vince neil in that both probably have some decent ideas but neither will ever be president. i would love to see an 80s hard rock singer in the oval office but its pure fantasy. despite what you assholes think, no third party fringe candidate has won the electorial collage since..........
Paul isn't going to force you to believe you're not just another slime-crawling animal, is he? Is he going to use the federal government to coerce belief in anything? Grow up.
I AM A GROWN MAN AGAINST THE TYRANNY AND OPRESSIVE NATURE OF RELIGION. YOUR TURN TO GROW UP and I HAVE SOME BAD NEWS: humans are "just another slime crawling animal" whose brains evolved in certain places to discount time, process language, etc. I like the idea of less government but not if this asshole is running the show.
Ron Paul has delivered more than 4,000 babies. He believes that human life starts at conception
Can you see how religion might seep it's way into his policy making? You are a jerk off. Go protect the unborn under the guise of small government.
Only a real asshole would refer to an abortion as crime.
The first thing we have to do is get the federal government out of it. We don’t need a federal abortion police. That’s the last thing that we need. There has to be a criminal penalty for the person that’s committing that crime. And I think that is the abortionist. As for the punishment, I don’t think that should be up to the president to decide
While Ron Paul opposes abortion his political position is similar to yours: The federal government needs to stay out of it. It is a state issue. Therefore he support the overturning ov Roe V Wade so that states can manage it themselves.
He also believes - read the first chapter of his new book - that abortion is not a legal issue as much as it is a cultural issue. Criminalizing abortion will not stop it. Only a shift in our cultural values will do that. When we as a people value life, then we will have less abortions.
Ron Paul is not trying to RUN our lives. He is trying to set us free from the shackles of government.
It is a state issue.
Nonsense. It is a matter of personal liberty and has nothing to do with the states any more than a state has the right to enforce slavery. Women have the right to do with their body as they see fit until birth. If they want to conceive fetus' for meat, that is their right. Any infringement with that right is communism.
um,
how is a woman's body a "state issue"? how is it the state who will decide what this woman can do with her body? how is it that the "states can manage" the woman's body, but ZERO mention of the sperm donor?
who pays for the child's upkeep? who gets off scott free, as always? how is this anything but covert religiousity? punish the unclean woman, the man never gets a mention?
how does RPaul intend to support all these unwanted babies? does he have a PLAN??
you are putting in work now. let the sheeple vote and whine when women with 6 kids go on welfare in states where aboriton is illegal. maybe the sheep can vote in a new president and things will change. did the people in libya vote gaddafi out of office? does voting work? did caligula lose a vote?
Why would you argue against Dr. Paul when you're obviously confused (clueless) about his STATED political views and the reasons behind those views? Take your childish banter and ad hominems back to Rawstory.
GET SOME INTEGRITY. RELIGION, CORPORATIONS, REPUBLICANS, AND THE FED ARE RUINING AMERICA. PAUL IS A BIGOT AND WACKJOB.
Order was only restored in L.A. when it came time for the blacks to pick up their welfare checks.-Ron Paul
"Is this your homework, Larry?"