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Rand Paul Detained In Nashville For Refusing Full Body Pat Down

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The political news on this slowish Monday morning comes courtesy of the TSA and those who object to their policies, such as in this case Senator Rand Paul, son of Ron Paul, who has just been detained for refusing a full body pat down. This should teach Rand Paul to not accept Wall Street (and/or Warren Buffett) donations of free NetJets hours.

Source: Ron Paul twitter account

Bloomberg has some more:

  • Irregularities during screening must be resolved before passenger can proceed to secure area of airport, TSA says
  • Paul underwent screening by millimeter wave imaging technology; targeted pat down is procedure for resolving alarms from scan, TSA says
  • Paul tells AP he was “detained” in a small cubicle, missed his flight to Washington, situation reflects concern TSA shouldn’t be “spending so much time with people who wouldn’t attack us”

From Reuters:

Republican Senator Rand Paul, son of presidential candidate Ron Paul, was detained on Monday by security officials at an airport in Nashville, Tennessee, an aide said.

 

Press secretary Moira Bagley wrote in a Twitter message that the senator told her at 10 a.m. EST, that he was being "detained by TSA (Transportation Security Administration) in Nashville."

 

Ron Paul, a congressman and Republican presidential hopeful, tweeted that his son was being detained for refusing a full-body pat-down "after anomaly in body scanner."

Something tells us the TSA budget is about to be severely curtailed...

 

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Mon, 01/23/2012 - 11:52 | 2088738 Confused
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Seriously? What shit.

 

 

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 11:52 | 2088744 Fukushima Sam
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Let's go get the fuckers.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 11:55 | 2088753 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Fight the power!

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 11:55 | 2088761 Pladizow
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PAPERS PLEASE!

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 11:57 | 2088777 MillionDollarBonus_
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The SPLC has been warning about trouble makers like Rand Paul for a long time now. They were mocked and derided by the libertarian community at the time. Well, look who's laughing now.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:01 | 2088793 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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I'm not.  Those fuckers that guard the groping stations are getting radiated to death.  No one, not even sheeple, deserves that.

Scientists Question TSA Scanners:

http://articles.boston.com/2011-05-17/travel/29552815_1_full-body-scanners-tsa-officials-radiation

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:04 | 2088824 MillionDollarBonus_
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Well call me crazy, but I like feeling secure when I'm travelling by air. Do you seriously think we can just let any potential terrorist fly without proper security measures? LOL. Let me guess, you're another PURIST libertarian who doesn't want ANY pat downs or body scanning at airports. Sorry but the world is not black and white, it comes in SHADES OF GREY.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:05 | 2088844 Cocomaan
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There are plenty of successful models for airport security that don't involve groping and potentially harmful scanning devices. 9/11 wouldn't have been stopped by a porno scanner. It could have been stopped by locking the cockpit door, and by having passengers that are more aware and less like sheep.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:07 | 2088859 Comay Mierda
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the TSA detected a pocket USA Constitution in Senator Paul's pants. That is surely a terrorist weapon by their standards

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:08 | 2088872 Badabing
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Don’t know what the problem is with Rand, Barney Frank didn’t even make a peep about a full cavity search!

Oh, except for the Queef.

 

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:35 | 2089048 Oh regional Indian
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Hah!

Maybe the anomaly they discovered was a Senator with BALLS?

ori

/au-k

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:40 | 2089073 redpill
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He's a SENATOR, what do these stupid thugs think they are doing?

"The Senators and Representatives shall receive a Compensation for their Services, to be ascertained by Law, and paid out of the Treasury of the United States. They shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place." 

--Article I, Section 6, US Constitution

 

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:51 | 2089138 DoChenRollingBearing
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Yes, the thugs are going to have some real enemies int he Senate now.

This article has been up about an hour and last I looked closing in on 300 replies.  Fastest ever?

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:55 | 2089150 JoeSexPack
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Signs point to yes.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 13:08 | 2089206 DoChenRollingBearing
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Rand Paul's detention is Rush's first topic of the day.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 13:32 | 2089315 Bananamerican
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"detained for refusing a full-body pat-down "after anomaly in body scanner."

Stupid Freaking Fascist Useless Motherfucking Tax Swilling Hogs

 

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 14:16 | 2089516 redpill
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Get your filthy hands off of our liberty advocate, fascist dogs!

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 15:04 | 2089780 UGrev
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That was not nearly enough angst.. next time, with a little more enthusiasm please.. 

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 15:26 | 2089896 TruthInSunshine
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TSA Idiocracy Screener to Rand Paul:

 

"Now a question of ettiquitte, to let you pass, do I grope your crotch or ass?"

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 13:22 | 2089265 dark pools of soros
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that comment rate you posit seems very.... sustainable

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 15:04 | 2089783 UGrev
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Going long "Up Arrows".. :)

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 14:58 | 2089746 GeezerGeek
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The TSA is simply following Obama's lead. Why worry about what the Constitution says? It's a barbarous relic, not good for anything in the 21st century.

 

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 17:44 | 2090387 DionysusDevotee
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Not Bad, but you highlighted the wrong section.  In anticipation;

While its true that there is a legal difference between detention and arrest, (Arrest is for suspected criminals, detention is a law enforcemnt procedure for purposes of assisting an investigation (questioning, for example), the TSA still violated Article 1 Sec 6;

and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place.

IF Paul was questioned in any capacity by law enforcement, they violated Art1 Sec 6

Hate to pick a nit, but they are going to argue that detention is not arrest, and they will be right.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:42 | 2089097 Transformer
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You know, I'm with MDB on this one.  The father, Ron Paul, is a kindly looking gentelman, but Rand Paul looks kind of aggressive.  I'm not so sure about him.

Besides, the TSA, who protect us from terrorists, can't show favoritism.  We all have to bear up under their inspections.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:52 | 2089139 X. Kurt OSis
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"Those who sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither."

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 14:21 | 2089509 DanDaley
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Right!  How about, you aren't allowed on an airplane unless you ARE packing heat! Live free or die!

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 15:22 | 2089870 ceilidh_trail
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How about we terminate the bastards who threaten us to begin with? What happened to "you are either with us or against us"? I am tired of these dumbshits treating me as a suspect just because I want to fly to Florida or New York. Anymore, flying sucks.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 13:28 | 2089293 benb
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It might make sense if the whole terrorist hoax wasn’t being run by the overthrown federal government. WTC 93’ was entirely created by the US gov. and run by a special unit with the FBI… It came out in court that the FBI directed the whole thing through their informant, former Egyptian Intelligence Officer and explosives expert, Amhad Salem. The FBI even supplied the explosives.

 And get this – the Bush family business partners, (Bin Laden) got a big chunk of the repair contract.

The Oklahoma City bombing was run by Clinton, elements of the FBI and ATF.

The Underwear Bomber was a drugged up patsy put on the plane by the CIA with no passport or boarding pass. It came out later the State Department was ordered to allow him to get aboard…National Security. Body Scanners were announced in this News/Lie Cycle.

9-11 is the biggest hoax in history.

There are about eight crime families responsible for this entire nightmare.

 

Turn off your TV, quit ingesting the medicated food and water, and use your head.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 14:08 | 2089477 Spastica Rex
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That's just crazy talk.

+1

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 22:31 | 2091189 benb
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No, it's the truth. A good beginner's exposure for you might be to watch a history of false flag terror.  --- Terrorstorm-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrXgLhkv21Y  

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 03:30 | 2091580 Bringin It
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benb - I think Spastica is being sarcastic.  Note the +1.

Thanks for your efforts.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 13:30 | 2093026 benb
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Maybe you're right. The enemy is under every rock you know .(HEHEHEHE)

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 23:02 | 2091256 benb
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Richard N. Hass stated in essence in Club of Rome documents in the early 1990’s; republished two years ago in Council On Foreign Relations documents – paraphrased -We will use phony terrorism as one pincer to police and control the public and take their rights and the other pincer that we will grab them with is fake environmentalism; carbon taxes to regulate every facet of life.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 14:14 | 2089506 tmosley
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Which court was this that revealed the WTC'93 attack was FBI?  Where is this testimony?

 

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 23:12 | 2091285 benb
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Federal District Court of NY (IIRC)  -

The WTC 93 Bombing was a totally financed and run US Intel operation. Salem, the former Egyptian military officer and demolition expert, was an FBI informant. He was brought here by the US government for this purpose. When Salem was told by his FBI handler to use real explosives instead of inert ingredients as he understood the phony terror plot would go he began recording hours of telephone conversations with his FBI handler. They tried to frame him up at the trial but when he produced the recordings he was not only allowed to walk but was paid a million dollars by our criminal government to get lost. It all came out in the trial the there was never any corporate media coverage and most Americans  were too lazy to dig deeper and get themselves informed. Check it out.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 16:46 | 2090200 The Heart
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YES, TURN OFF THE DRUG TV NOW AND WATCH THIS MOVIE. DO NOT WATCH THE ZIO-MEDIA PROPAGANDA ANY MORE AT ALL.

DOWNLOAD THIS FREE MOVIE AND AFTER YOU HAVE COMPLETELY DIGESTED THIS AND COMPREHEND EXACTLY WHY ALL THIS INSANITY IS HAPPENING WORLD WIDE, PASS IT ON TO TEN OF YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY MEMBERS.

WAKE UP!!!!!!!

THE CALLING

http://www.thecrowhouse.com/calling.html

 

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 13:45 | 2089379 redpill
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+1 as I'm assuming this is satire.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 14:07 | 2089466 Randall Cabot
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I don't know about the eight crime families but he's on the right track. Here is the trailer for a new documentary about the Oklahoma City bombing:

http://www.anoblelie.com/

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 14:12 | 2089494 Bartanist
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Do yo have any evidence that Homeland Security and the TSA are "protecting us from terrorism". I have seen no evidence that domestic terrorists exist (other than the USA government and related apendages) or for that matter that there is any REAL terrorist threat.

The purpose of the TSA is to CAUSE us to feel fear, insecurity and anger so that we do not question the slavers. You have obviously become a very good and fearful slave.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 15:23 | 2089876 buyingsterling
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How to handle the TSA:

Wear loose fitting sweat pants or shorts, with no underwear. Take a viagra before the flight. While in line, look at something on your Iphone that gives you are giant boner. Then try to maintain it through the patdown. If you can approach the patdown with an actual pants-tent, you won. Be sure to moan when fondled. Loudly.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:40 | 2089075 Ropingdown
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They say Barney was forcible pushed out of the TSA booth as he whined "you didn't look nearly deep enough."

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 14:08 | 2089474 Randall Cabot
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They couldn't pay me enough.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 15:41 | 2089950 Comay Mierda
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Bwaney Fwank

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:16 | 2088924 Cocomaan
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Heh, word.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:33 | 2089030 Buckaroo Banzai
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We deploy millions of dollars worth of scanners to catch terrorists... And yet we still don't know the identity of the "well-dressed gentleman" who escorted the shoe bomber around the metal detectors... Hmmm.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 17:46 | 2090393 Karl von Bahnhof
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Geez, given truly nature of 9/11 this is biggest looney theatre da mundo.
Hello, :) wake up gringos, this is beyond absurdistan.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 06:56 | 2091718 Tompooz
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Either that , or it was his anomalous brass balls.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:09 | 2088867 Dr. Richard Head
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You and your common sense. MDB don't want none of that.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:26 | 2088983 Manthong
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Geez, it's not like he was insider trading or anything.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:29 | 2088996 mvsjcl
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And I'm sure that a full, impartial, follow-it-where-ever-it-leads investigation into the events of 9/11 would have illuminated this conclusion. You make assumptions that are not based on any research. Unfortunately, much of the evidence was destroyed by the very act, and subsequent traces were "vaporized" at Fresh Kills [Fuck! Got to give them points for humor, black as it is.].

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 15:00 | 2089758 mvsjcl
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Has critical thinking disappeared? Is my snark too subtle? Or should I end all my postings with "Gold, Bitchez!

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:06 | 2088845 LoneStarHog
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See if you can get this through your fucking stupid head:  I WILL NOT GIVE UP ANY LIBERTY FOR SECURITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

DO YOU FUCKING UNDERSTAND, YOU GODDAMN SOB?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:12 | 2088900 Conrad Murray
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PATRIOT Act, TSA, NDAA. It's too late, you've already given up all of your liberty. Best to let that freedom fantasy die off. Accept that you are a slave.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:16 | 2088926 LoneStarHog
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FUCK YOU!...You want to KNEEL...you can do it on YOUR FUCKING KNEES...NOT MINE!!!!!

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:22 | 2088957 Conrad Murray
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I drew this for you: http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/200/420/BRTky.jpg?13214...

If you're too blind to see that every time you pay taxes you kneel, or every day that goes by that you don't vote with your feet or a bullet you kneel, you're hopeless.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:36 | 2089047 mvsjcl
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Nobody's given away anything. Many things were stolen. Things which are stolen are still owned by the original owners. The proof may come by cordite. Very distinctive scent. Sweet!

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 13:03 | 2089181 Surly Bear
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Doesn't matter how they're gone, buddy, but make no mistake: they are fucking gone!

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 15:08 | 2089807 UGrev
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This is an unfortunate truth.. 

Just waiting for the bugle call myself..

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 15:15 | 2089840 mvsjcl
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People who've lost property which rightfully belong to them don't accept "they are fucking gone!"

 

And, yes, it does matter how they're gone.

 

And, no, I'm not your buddy.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 14:10 | 2089487 Calmyourself
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_provocateur

You worry me conrad, never laid a hand on Kim, something strange about that..

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:42 | 2089095 DogSlime
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Problem is, you're implying there is volition here.

As others have stated, these freedoms have been TAKEN.  You don't need to KNEEL - they have lowered the floor from under you.  You're at the same height as if you were kneeling even though it still feels like standing.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 03:37 | 2091582 Bringin It
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If you are paying taxes, you are participating.  If there was a general strike or a tax strike, the ponzi would fail.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:15 | 2088918 DogSlime
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@LoneStarHog - I WILL NOT GIVE UP ANY LIBERTY FOR SECURITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Erm... you already have - or rather, it has been taken.

Hence why Rand Paul has been detained.

PATRIOT, NDAA... all the other stuff.  Many of your liberties are already long gone.

It's as bad or worse here in the UK.

9/11 was the wildcard that allowed TPTB licence to do whatever they liked.  They're still playing that card.  When that card is no longer effective, there will be another "terrorist atrocity" to outrage and rally the sheep.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:07 | 2088854 Dr. Richard Head
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You the 80's came and went with planes being taken over by terrorists, no pat downs then.  The 90s came in and no more hostile take overs by terrorists - no pat downs. 

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:08 | 2088861 trav7777
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you come in shades of ghey

Anyway, wtf was a zillionaire like Rand doing flying public?  Couldn't he find a corporation with a jet to whore himself to?

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:39 | 2089078 JW n FL
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anyone who down voted Trav on this needs to re-Think why.

Fantastic Observation Trav!!

and Thank You for bringing the Facts into view so clearly.

God Bless You and Yours!

signed, Christian Constitutionalist

P.S. dont foget "See Something? Say Something!' here's the link.. I want to make it easy for you --------> http://www.dhs.gov/files/reportincidents/see-something-say-something.shtm

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 14:11 | 2089485 Spastica Rex
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I thought "shades of ghey" was funny.

+1 for Trav.

EDIT: And don't suspect a friend, report him.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_EowV2UU-VXQ/Su_zIR3lq8I/AAAAAAAAAPk/125xhAmEy2o/s400/ReportHimSM.jpg

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 15:00 | 2089763 azusgm
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Private planes have problems safely reaching destinations when carrying passengers such as Rand Paul.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 15:51 | 2089992 buyingsterling
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Amen. Even public flights are not safe for some. Ask Rep. McDonald.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:08 | 2088863 Athemos
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You're exactly right.  The shades of grey in this particular case is all the bullshit from the Government puppets via their clowns in the MSM who make people like you either believe this steaming pile or paid well enough to regurgitate it. 

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:11 | 2088869 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Lie down on the couch and tell me where it hurts. 

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:11 | 2088884 SeverinSlade
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So is it just me or is Million just an overly sarcastic ZHer?  Or is he actually being serious?

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:11 | 2088894 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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I'll just call MDB crazy

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 17:00 | 2090247 CH1
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MDB is satire, but it wastes a LOT of people's energy.

I wish he'd stop.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 17:12 | 2090271 CrockettAlmanac.com
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He bores the hell out of me. I just scroll down thread until I get past the crap he spawns.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:16 | 2088923 kridkrid
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it's satire.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 14:12 | 2089497 Spastica Rex
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-3 for you for understanding satire.

That was satire.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 17:49 | 2090405 Karl von Bahnhof
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Hope for not being Satyr...e

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:25 | 2088979 richard in norway
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its funny shit, more funny are the outraged responces, but MDB is getting more obvoius now seems strange thats there are still folks that dont get it

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:10 | 2088892 azzhatter
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Go Fuck Yourself. I will not surrender any liberty for your so-called security. You are the fucking disease that has swept this country. 

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:41 | 2089094 JW n FL
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I just wanted to say... that you are Damn Sexxy!! and Please keep up the Message!!

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:13 | 2088903 EscapeKey
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Fucking LOL. Best troll bait I've seen in a while.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:15 | 2088914 Janice
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Hello Crazy,
I support your desire to fly on a high-security flight, never mind that the plane's wings are cracking and falling off, however, I will take my chances with the rest of my fellow Americans who think the TSA and Homeland Security have gone too far.

I would suggest for those Americans who want the other passengers screened, create a separate commercial airline where the passengers can have a fully body cavity search prior to boarding the flight. I am sure that other passengers would pay a premium for the experience and satisfaction of knowing that everyone has passed anal inspection.

The rest of us ignorant masses can take our chances with the terrorist. Have I mentioned the probabilities of terrorist/hostage take-over?

Win-win

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:25 | 2088968 BLOTTO
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MDB -

You reek of the cologne - 'Hidden Agenda'

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:44 | 2089111 JW n FL
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we need security.. cause pussies cant defend themselves..

all those polite people that let the camel jockies with box cutters take over thier planes..

becuase they didnt want to get a scratch.

it is called Natural Selection..

the stupid people are dead.. it is just nature or natural for that to happen..

no need to worry about it..

unless you are stupid.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 13:00 | 2089172 DoChenRollingBearing
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It won't happen again JW.

You saw what would happen in the plane that went down in Shanksville.

TSA or no TSA, jihadist camel jocks will get torn to pieces by the passengers if they EVER try another hijacking...  Quote me on it.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 13:31 | 2089312 Sweet Chicken
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You actually believe there was a plane taken down by passengers and it crashed in Shanksville, PA?!?! Please show me evidence of this?!

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 14:24 | 2089549 Sweet Chicken
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I'll take that negative vote as confirmation that ou are an idiot if you truley believe a plane crashed in Shanksville, PA. LOl Take one look at the alleged "crash" site and it's clear to most people with a brain that whatever hit the ground wasn't an airplane. http://stj911.org/evidence/docs/P200059_1.jpg

Dear god I can't believe people actually believe this shit any more. For god's sake use your fucking head and actually think for yourselves!!!!

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 15:00 | 2089762 hadriansnightmare
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OOK- so where did all the people go?

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 15:11 | 2089823 Sweet Chicken
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LOL Do I need to do all the leg work for you? Start reading and see what you find. Are you really going to try and suggest any photo of this alleged "crash" site actually shows plane parts or people parts?!?! Sorry buddy I have plenty of experience in this sort of thing and one thing is a fact....a plane did NOT crash in Shanksville, PA. Period. This is not debateable.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 15:28 | 2089903 XitSam
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It's not debateable because you know nothing about plane crashes.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 15:37 | 2089940 Sweet Chicken
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You mean "alleged" plane crashes don't you?! Let me break something to you gently.....when a plan crashes there are parts of the plane/crew/passengers EVERYWHERE they don't vaporize. Thanks for playing though.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 16:14 | 2090084 XitSam
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No, I don't. You know nothing of what real plane crashes are like. Life isn't like what you imagine it to be.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 20:55 | 2090931 XitSam
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You're so cute. All plane crashes including 9/11 must look like those two cherry picked pictures. Now go back and try to pass third grade science.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 16:53 | 2090222 Sweet Chicken
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or all of these....http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon...

 

Yeah those sand niggers with box cutters sure learned quickly not to fuck with Americans! Fucking sheep, you make me sick.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 22:17 | 2091152 pods
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Guess you never heard about the Valujet crash?  Wreckage all depends on velocity and impact angle.

pods

edit:  Saw your second link (above).  Proves my point.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 10:32 | 2092195 Sweet Chicken
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HAHAHA what a tool, that plane crashed in a fucking swamp dipshit. The lack of found wreckage was due to a thing called MUD sitting in three feet of water which is pretty hard to find things in. My company worked on part of that investigation ( I was not emploeyed here at the time). You obviously have no idea of what you are talking about. Would you like to go through the physics of all this now? You say it is velocity and impact angle correct? Now do the math....flight 93 was reported at striking the ground at over 500mph at nearly a 90 degree angle. If you do the math you'll find that only 500mph there isn't enough force created in the impact to vaporize the steel in the engines nor is it enough to vaporize all remnants of the individuals aboard.

Plus I would think recovering 40tons of wreckage in the midst of the location was pretty darn good. Certainly better than the 0% found at the Shankesville crash site.

I'm tired of talking to children, someone else stand up and try to prove the math adds up.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 15:34 | 2089930 Calmyourself
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You need a tighter focus on that photo pal, maybe like two small dirt clods then there will be no doubt it was not a plane crash idiot..

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 15:41 | 2089958 Sweet Chicken
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LULZZZ keep it up shill and I'll keep responding so more can see what really happened or rather DIDN'T happen that day.

http://911research.wtc7.net/planes/evidence/photos/docs/moussaoui/P20005...

 

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 15:47 | 2089983 Sweet Chicken
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How about this one shithead?!

 

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://911research.wtc7.net/planes/e...

 

Oh yeah that's a 757 crash site can't you tell!!!!! lol

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 18:11 | 2090488 Calmyourself
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Been in a lot of terminal velocity airplane crashes have you?  No, you know your right the entire government is in on it just me and a few other guys don't know the truth thanks thanks a lot..

Note to self: don't roll in mud with pig, pig likes it..

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 18:20 | 2090524 Sweet Chicken
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No obviously I have not but I do work in a laboratory which does investigative work for major airlines and NASA but what do I know. Fucking idiot.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 10:50 | 2092282 tarsubil
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I don't get it. You work in a very unique lab but expect everyone to have the same level of expertise? Fascinating.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 18:40 | 2094334 Sweet Chicken
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Of course I don't expect that but what I do expect is for people to use their own minds. There is also this thing called science and scientific formula to figure some of these basic questions they are asking. Someone hears that the plane was traveling so fast that when it hit the ground it vaporized and they believe it without further thought and question anyone not in the main stream who says otherwise. It is unacceptable and nor is it mine or others duty to make them believe otherwise, that is something they need to do for themselves. Why believe me over the NIST report? I say don't. Do your own investigation and math and you'll see almost immediately that what they claimed happened in Shankesville, WTC 7, and the Pentagon is physically impossible.

I happen to steer clear about talking about the towers because people are too emotionally traumatized to believe anything like that could have possible been done by people who we put our trust in. It is akin to accusing someone's mother of murder.

Again I don't want people to believe me I want them to do the math and research themselves.

 

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 16:57 | 2090234 The Heart
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All one needs do is watch this movie to understand the "plans" of these globalists who's god is money.

http://www.thecrowhouse.com/calling.html

DOWNLOAD AND PASS THIS ON!

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 13:42 | 2089354 XitSam
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For crying out loud. The standard method of dealing with a hijacking prior to 9/11 was to get the plane safely on the ground and then deal with the demands. Using the plane as a suicide bomb changed that midway through September 11th, and Flight 93 proved it. 

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 14:06 | 2089450 General Decline
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I'm not convinced that there were any camel jockeys on those planes to begin with.

 

Edit: <turn off bold>  Wasn't yelling at you JW

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:27 | 2088986 YesWeKahn
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I think the chance of a plane crash by mecanical failure is much higher than a teorist attack. 10 years after the 9/11, we are still in panic mode. BTW what's the color of the emergency system? still orange?

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:29 | 2089003 PhD
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So for you to feel secure from an event that is less likely to occur than you being hit by lightning or killed by killer bees, me and my children must be groped whenever we travel by airplane?

I would like to feel secure from POS paranoid individuals such as you who are willing to impose forceful measures on their surroundings based upon irrational paranoia.

 

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:38 | 2089069 Uncle Remus
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You should probably be more concerned with aircraft maintenance shortcuts, spare parts of questionable provenance and labor relations shenanigans than flaming toe jam or exploding skid marks.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:43 | 2089102 Fazzie
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 Lets define the actual threat. How many US air passengers have perished as a result of terrorism as a percentage of the whole. I would wager the odds are about the same as an airplane crashing into your living room.

  How many societies have went on to lose their essential freedoms after submitting to overreaching govt in the name of some scary threat?  A lot more.

 I would much rather take that 1 in 100 million or whatever chance of getting blown up than giving up one iota of freedom.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:53 | 2089145 karzai_luver
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I would wager the odds are about the same as an airplane from Jupiter hitting one of the flea on mdb's ass.

 

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:49 | 2089120 dogismyth
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Sorry, but I'm usually frank with people, and I would say to you "your a fucking idiot" MillionDollarBoBo.  If you think TSA is protecting your shill ass from terrorists,  you're dumber than I thought.  Tell me how many terrorists have been thwarted by the TSA?

So now that Delta and American have started a new program for a quick pass through security for about $100, I'm sure you are much safer too.  Its all about control and money dipshit.  And the real terrorists in the world are who?  I'd love to hear your response to that question.  Sounds like you're missing some grey matter dipshit.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:51 | 2089129 karzai_luver
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Nah, that's the wool  over your eyes there mdb.

 

 

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:58 | 2089164 macnomad
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TROLL...  look into the undewear bomber... How'd he get onto the plane in the first place without a passport or papers?  Security at the time denied him entry.  Why was he let onto the plane?    Was it do to lack of security?

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 13:02 | 2089179 aerojet
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He got onto the plane because an intelligence operative got him on the plane because Level 3 needed to make the sale of a lifetime.  It's that fucking simple!

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 13:01 | 2089174 aerojet
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What a joke--when I first read this, I thought you were trolling, but you really mean it.  You're really scared of terror in the skies, aren't you?  You're right, the world isn't black and white, but what I keep having to come back to is that having any semblance of real freedom means that you have to take on certain risks in life.  I'm much mroe concerned with the erosion of basic freedom--freedom of association, freedom of travel, which is what the TSA represents in a very big way.  I am much less concerned about air piracy and terrorism, mainly because the whole 9/11 narrative that we have been told to believe stinks, quite frankly.  It's all been a lie.  The body scanners are a lie--they were "sold to us" using fear, the most cynical marketing tactic that ever existed. 

Whether I'm a libertarian purist or not, I would rather just take my chances than have all this bullshit nonsense (and very expensive nonsense at that) shoved down my throat ALL THE FUCKING TIME. 

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 15:12 | 2089820 azusgm
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Anyone that concerned about safety should never, ever drive or even venture onto the streets and highways as a passenger. Just too darned dangerous.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 13:05 | 2089190 kill switch
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Well call me crazy

 

OK, Your fucking crazy..

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 13:28 | 2089306 catacl1sm
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You do realize that the security chokepoint, I mean checkpoint, is as large a target as an airplane. You could get several suit-cased size bombs right in the middle of the lines and blow everyone to hell, and shutdown the airport indefinately. Logic FTW, bitchez.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 13:30 | 2089309 XitSam
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Do you really think that Senator Rand Paul is a terrorist? Oh, you do. 

TSA screening is a joke. Security theater. Why? Because each passenger is allowed a quart bag full of 3 oz containers. So 20 people take a pint through security and assemble it on the secure side. That totals 2-1/2 gallons. This is all about getting people to comply, not airplane security.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 13:37 | 2089338 Malachi Constant
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Well call me crazy, but I like feeling secure when I'm travelling by air etc

Terrorists have government IDs to bypass and override any "security" measure. They fly with you, they walk into your buildings, they have access to your bank accounts. They don't blow you up only as long as they don't have such orders.

Thus, two options:

  1. You are crazy.
  2. You are one of the ID bearers.
Mon, 01/23/2012 - 17:16 | 2090284 Smiley
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Israel uses profiling to single out potential security threats on flights through its airports and they are VERY successful at stopping bad people and things from getting on airplanes, and they do it with a lot less people than we do:  Of course it takes 20 TSA agents to have a combined IQ of over 100...

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:41 | 2089085 Uncle Remus
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Respectfully, you are wrong.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:18 | 2088936 Kaiser Sousa
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"oh say can you see...

"by the" whatever the fuck......

yeah, u be free here n america.....

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:44 | 2089106 zerozulu
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It is stupid to mess with the power like this. Just quietly buy GOLD and smile.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 14:15 | 2089504 Calmyourself
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You best be buying local with cash only or you a just a target for when they have time..

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 15:16 | 2089845 Campagnolo
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true. just buy the fucking metal and be alert, buy some property in central or south america and when smell that TSHF is near....get the hell out of the country!!

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 15:12 | 2089821 Campagnolo
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Damn!, the US is getting worse than Chile of the 70's with Pinochet...

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 11:55 | 2088755 Crisismode
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Yep, this is what it has come to -- the TSA suspects that a United States Senator is a potential terrorist threat.

 

It would be funny, if it were not so pathetic.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 11:57 | 2088784 Tortfeasor
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I say thank God.  It's about time people started fighting back.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:08 | 2088860 DoChenRollingBearing
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Yes, that's a signal to the rest of the country that some of us want our freedom back.  Still, when I got my grope on a trip to Peru a year or so ago, I did not stand up and refuse the patdown...  I had a plane to catch...  Maybe that's what "they" are counting on, making it INCONVENIENT for us to get our rights back.  And the TSA wankers I have dealt with, but that's another story.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:11 | 2088887 trav7777
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all the countries that are "less free" don't have this BS and you can keep your shoes on during the security line.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:13 | 2088907 DoChenRollingBearing
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The airport system in Peru is just as you describe.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:43 | 2089096 LFMayor
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Both of them?

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 14:14 | 2089510 General Decline
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Yep.. Just went through security twice a Johanasburg Airport last month.  Twice for the same flight.  Kept my shoes on the whole time.  They did confiscate a roll of electrical tape I was carrying in my back pack.  They told me that I couldn't bring tape on the airplane. WTF???  I flew in-country in South Africa and was only searched once.  They told me any flight going to the US had to have extra, additional screening. 

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:18 | 2088937 americanspirit
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May I suggest that before heading for the airport everyone eat a big plate of beans and drink several liters of beer. Then after insisting on a full body search rather than a scan - my god, what an embarrassing accident. (Just be sure to step away from your shoes and clothing and aim in the proper direction before you lose control of your body functions.)

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:30 | 2089007 NotApplicable
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Other than indefinite detention in Gitmo, sounds like a plan!

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:50 | 2089128 americanspirit
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A welcome caution NotApplicable - but I'm a 71 year old guy with a weak bladder and a tendency to be gassy. Sometimes especially when I am terrified I just can't help myself. Boy that airplane taking me to Guantanamo would be a mess by the time we got there.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 14:05 | 2089455 JohnG
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8 hours of onion rings and dark beer wearing a depends, then an "accident" is my plan.

If I ever have to fly again.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 14:33 | 2089604 Badabing
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Escarole, 45cents a pound that will getem.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:03 | 2088821 pods
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Well they should be treated to the same tyranny that the rest of us live with on a daily basis.

pods

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:08 | 2088853 SWRichmond
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"They shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place."

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:31 | 2089017 NotApplicable
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You'll just make them mad by quoting that antiquated thing.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:50 | 2089134 pods
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Yep, and 4th amendment states:

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

Maybe when more and more are subject to the same tyranny that the rest of us navigate on a daily basis, the public will see exactly where we are.  The Kelo decision, civil forfeiture laws, NDAA, Patriot act, the use of the COFEE program, gun laws, and a myriad of other extra-constitutional measure shows just how little effort is paid to the rules for government.

IMHO, this action would not even violate that clause (article 1 sec 6, clause 1), as he was on his way to a rally (first clause), and was not stopped because of any of his speeches/debates in his senatorial capacity (second clause).

pods

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