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Re-Retaliation: Fire Spotted At Gate Of Chinese School In Kobe, Japan

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All day long we read how today, on the 81st anniversary of Japan's invasion of Manchuria, anti-Japan protests flared up in 125 Chinese cities, for the most part peaceful, protesting what China believes is an illegal Japanese attempt at annexation of the Senkaku Islands as a proximal catalyst, but likely also an outlet for years of pent up anti-Japanese sentiment (of which there is plenty on both sides). For a good example of this see recent events in Muslim countries, US embassies and a certain film about Mohammed. Things got so heated, that late in the day there was some speculation that China may consider retaliating for what it considers an unprovoked territorial grab by the not so beloved eastern neighbor by selling its holdings of Japanese bonds. And while that may or may not occur, the probability of some serious escalation only gets largely greater as we read news of such development, this time out of Japan

  • Fire Spotted At Gate Of Chinese School in Kobe, Japan: Kyodo

Well, if Japan wants this confrontation to get truly ugly, then by all means re-retaliate, and certainly bring the school children in it. One thing is certain: China will not step down, and neither will Japan. What happens next is thus anyone's guess.

And to think all of this is over a piece of uninhabited rock in the middle of nowhere.


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Tue, 09/18/2012 - 19:55 | 2808989 Mongo
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Popcorn time!

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 20:08 | 2809053 THX 1178
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Shit just got REAL! 0_o

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 20:20 | 2809078 Stackers
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Shall we a play a game ?

Love to, How about Global Thermonuclear War.

Wouldnt you prefer a good game of chess ?

Later, lets play Global Thermonuclear War.


Tue, 09/18/2012 - 20:45 | 2809165 stocktivity
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I don't care if Pearl Harbor happened 70 years ago...Fuck you Japan! Those slimy pilots were laughing while they bombed our defenseless troops and ships. Fuck you Japan...for all those marines, sailors, and soldiers who never got to live their lives.

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 21:12 | 2809290 JPM Hater001
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The interesting part is that the Japanese are noted for their obedience of the law.

This means they have a rebel on their hands.

I smell Bruce Lee.

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 21:44 | 2809407 smlbizman
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japan may have super human powers since being dowsed with the fukishima green the toxic avenger...

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 21:52 | 2809437 Taint Boil
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Ultraman is going to be pissed ............

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 23:13 | 2809670 Dave Thomas
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Ultraman kind of stems from that whole Japanese freudian block from being nuked and such. What'd be really cool is if a bunch of Mishima's started popping up and kicking ass.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 07:48 | 2810260 VyseLegendaire
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Freud was a fraud!

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 21:54 | 2809443 FoxMulder
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Fuck you dolphin and whale!

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 21:27 | 2809343 tmosley
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Collectivist garbage. 

You about ready to pay some slave reparations there?  No?  Then best shut the fuck up.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 04:43 | 2810105 Ar-Pharazôn
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enjoy your brainwashed life

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 20:13 | 2809070 Buck Johnson
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It sure is popcorn time, this is getting out of hand and fast.  And soon we will see something done that will push the two groups over the edge.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 04:08 | 2810074 Kiwi Pete
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lol, I'm reading your post eating a big bowl of popcorn. Really cosmic stuff today!

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 22:28 | 2809564 Awakened Sheeple
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Boy, that escalated quickly...I mean that really got out of hand fast.

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 23:30 | 2809720 westboundnup
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It jumped up a notch.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 08:57 | 2810513 ZeroAvatar
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The only 'Popping' you're going to hear is the sound of rifles!

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 19:55 | 2808993 buzzsaw99
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hey china, go make me a sammich bitchez

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 19:59 | 2809010 Alpo for Granny
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Or said another way....

Now go home and get your fuckin' shine box!

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 20:07 | 2809051 sunaJ
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One thing most particular to many Asian cultures is the intolerance for loss of face, or sut meen. Even more than with Americans, it will be hard for these two cultures to back down.

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 22:17 | 2809523 A Nanny Moose
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Can't we just settle it over a match of Rockem Sockem Robots?

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 00:22 | 2809821 akak
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Just wait until Japan sics Mothra on their Chinese asses!

There's gonna be Hell to pay --- just as soon as the Japanese Defense Forces find that box with the miniature twin singing geishas.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 05:09 | 2810130 Urban Redneck
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That would generally entail the invited intervention of a respected third party to broker an honorable solution, too bad the US is so short on competent, much less respected leadership (even if it's usually dishonorable) right now.

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 20:16 | 2809056 sunaJ
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Apparently I don't care about loss of face, as I keep double-posting.

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 20:58 | 2809224 AlaricBalth
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Hen Ganga !!!

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 21:15 | 2809299 Cosimo de Medici
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Two-faced bastard!  No No No!  Turn the other other cheek.

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 20:18 | 2809079 buzzsaw99
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the best part of china ran down the crack of their mama's ass. i fart in their general direction.

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 20:31 | 2809120 Ineverslice
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Hey Jimmy, was I out of line or what?

Well, you insulted 'em a little bit...little bit.

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 21:58 | 2809457 Calmyourself
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To: AAnonymous,

Make me some flied lice while I eat you blo me.. 

Actually Chinese demogrpahics is all the revenge we need, 20 million males and no women wait a second, those are surplus males with no future, poorly educated, cannon fodde.. This may not end well..

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 01:45 | 2809945 AnAnonymous
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Actually Chinese demogrpahics is all the revenge we need, 20 million males and no women wait a second, those are surplus males with no future, poorly educated, cannon fodde.. This may not end well..

Catch 22 as loved by 'Americans'

'Americanism' is spreading everywhere, including in China and this makes the following even stronger:

military men get laid, are usually heavy consumers on prostitutes and have also a high marriage rate.

So basically, anytime that 'americans' hint at the unbalance between male and female in China and a socalled link between that imbalanced situation and sexual intercourses, they can not even accept how their own society works.

Getting in the military is a path to sex and marriage.

And it negates their primary point, that those guys, as they can not get a wife, will be wasted on the military.

'Americanism' is spreading in China. The wife less guys might be found but not in the military. Indeed, as 'americanism' is spreading, those guys might be used to spur an 'american' colonization wave somewhere else. 'American' style.

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 19:57 | 2808997 economicfreefall
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This is really bad if it continues to escalate. I know a lot of people in both China and Japan. It's sad how governments turn good people against each other.

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 19:59 | 2809009 10mm
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Tue, 09/18/2012 - 20:24 | 2809093 youngman
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AS a country to country war...this goes back a long time....WWII..the Japanese did terrible things to the China has the Power I think.....and they have millions of wifeless men.....looking to rape the Japanese women....Just like the Japanese did to the Chinese so many years ago....

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 21:00 | 2809236 nodhannum
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One cannot ever really get even because by the time you can do it, the true instigators are dead.  If you go fter their offspring you just start the whole thing over.  Just try to never permit the conditions and totalarian governments to instigate the madness in the first place.  I know easy to say but hard to do.

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 22:19 | 2809529 A Nanny Moose
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An eye for an eye makes the world blind.

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 22:47 | 2809621 sullymandias
Tue, 09/18/2012 - 19:56 | 2808999 CClarity
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I really hope this is just a coincidence, a bunsen burner left on or an electrical short . . . but even if it is - it could Black Swan.  On the other hand, a  single individual/arsonist could set things in motion ala Sarajevo and Arch Duke Ferdinand into the World War, could be all out Asia with the rest of the world picking sides.  Please no!

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 19:57 | 2809005 LetThemEatRand
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It's truly amazing how easy it is for a few people to rile up millions into a state of blood lust over virtually anything.  

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 20:03 | 2809028 redpill
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It makes you wonder what millions of Chinese willfully choking on Shanghai smog or loopy Japanese buying used panties out of a vending machine care about some fucking islands they'll never see in their lives.

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 21:37 | 2809377 JPM Hater001
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Actually I think there's a Days Inn and a Benihana's for tourists.

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 20:18 | 2809080 GeezerGeek
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Reminds one of certain US politicians attacking 'the rich' as a means of attracting votes. 

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 20:46 | 2809172 knukles
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or that war on thehherhhor or whatever it's called..
the one solved with the airport searches of Granny Gooey Crotch and SweetCakes Baby Boo Boo.

Mrs. K just told me Lizard Lick Towing is on... gotta go

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 20:48 | 2809183 knukles
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Oh and I forgot the other Big Time Life Improvement...
the unavailability of Big Gulps in NYC



Forward Bitchez

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 22:03 | 2809475 Chief KnocAHoma
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I don't think you will have to worry about some silly fucking war on terror anymore. China will square up with Japan. North Korea likely gets involved too with S Korea and we have to help both.

Then these fucking Muslims get uppity with Israel and guess what. We have to help. Of course Russia will side with the ass pirate Arabs. That ought to be fun.

Then there is that patch of land to our south. Mexico may get aggressive with the help of Chavez.

The only choice we will have is to deploy and use nukes. Too many savages at the gate to deal with by conventional means. This shit could spiral quick!

Everyone sleep tight.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 07:08 | 2810202 krispkritter
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I'm getting the same vibe. Like it's 'Pile on the US and let's see what it takes to break her' or something. Of course, our Feckless Leaders have put us in this position and there's not one person with a 'snowball's chance' of being put into office who would turn the ship around. Both parties have their foot on the accelerator and all they're arguing about is who changed the radio station. Meanwhile, the cliff looms...

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 22:01 | 2809471 Calmyourself
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LTER, yeah reminds me of socialists like Nazi's riling up millions..

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 22:22 | 2809541 A Nanny Moose
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Easy answer? Who was responsible for their education?

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 23:38 | 2809745 Freebird
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Upticks LTER - you must still be in shock as you're not normally a hit & runner.

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 19:58 | 2809006 Theta_Burn
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See what happens when you take the opium tents away?

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 20:38 | 2809140 Ineverslice
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while tryin' to stay serious.  


Wed, 09/19/2012 - 07:08 | 2810215 Dooud
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We are going to cut your dick off, Rarry.

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 20:00 | 2809013 banksouttacontrol
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Maybe just maybe, China would refuse to send us non value added shit! Heck we would have to make this on out own....not a chance.

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 20:19 | 2809084 GeezerGeek
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Imagine the fallout if China refused to let iPhone5s ship to the US!

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 22:26 | 2809554 A Nanny Moose
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Wiping out excess industrial capacity worked for us after WWII.

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 20:01 | 2809017 Cassandra Syndrome
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Does this infer that in 90 years time there will be a famous Scottish Indie Rock band called Senkaku Islands?

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 20:06 | 2809046 Zgangsta
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implying that Japan wins this confrontation?

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 20:15 | 2809075 Cassandra Syndrome
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They didn't call the band Francis Ferdinand to compromise for the outcome of the war.

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 21:10 | 2809280 takinthehighway
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OT, but the best band name I ever heard was Bongwater Taffy.

I'll let you chew on that one a while...

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 20:02 | 2809021 Yen Cross
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 Ahhh Grasshoppers, no so good in Rasia.

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 20:04 | 2809025 Jack Burton
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I heard on the radio today that a large fleet of Chinese Fishing vessels are planning on heading for the waters off these islands and taking up station there to provoke the Japanese. If so, then the Japanese will feel duty bound to remove the CHinese vessels from what Japan now clains as it territorial waters.

This is where the incident could come from. Should CHina send a coast guard or naval vessel or two to protect it's private fishing vessel occupation and Japan did the same to try and evict the said Chinese fishing vessels, then you have the real makings for an incident.

The Chinese fishing vessels, while claiming to be carrying out a private protest, would surely not sail there without approval of China's official government. Japan would only act on it's own government's orders. So if an incident occurs, it will be basically government against government.

Personally, I believe China will NOT let this Island takeover stand. If they lost face on this set of Islands, there are many more in dispute and China would not want to begin the struggle for control over these areas with a loss to Japan. The potential for real trouble is there.

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 20:05 | 2809040 Thomas Jefferson
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Time to bring my cats and dogs inside?

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 20:49 | 2809192 knicks3005
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You should've bought them in a long time ago, considering their cousins keep getting eaten alive. 

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 20:05 | 2809041 Zgangsta
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Jiabao and Noda should get together and hug it out.

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 20:07 | 2809045 lolmao500
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Dump Japanese bonds and blow Bernanke/Draghi out of the water already!

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 20:11 | 2809059 Son of Loki
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"Honey, lets take the kids to Disneyworld instead of Tokyo this year....what'dya say?"


For all practical purposes, Chinese tourist travel to Japan has ceased.

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 20:14 | 2809066 Yen Cross
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 Japan should call that "Crazy Bastard", that chases their whaling ships all over hell and back," with stink bombs", on Discovery Channel, to chase those Chinese fishing boats back to the mainland.

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 20:12 | 2809067 Squid Vicious
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time to revenge nanking! teach those imperialist dogs a lesson!

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 20:25 | 2809081 lolmao500
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China to Ben on bonds : You fuck people out of money and get away with it. Ben : You can't talk to me like that. China : Eh you fat irish prick, you put my fucking money to sleep, you go get my money or I'll put your fucking brain to sleep!

China to Japan as payback for Nanking: I got something planned for your wives and kids they ain't never gonna forget. They ain't never going to forget it and neither will you!

China to Japan : You die first get it? Your friends might get me in a rush but not before I turn your country into a parking glass lot, you understand me?

US to China : You better drop those threats or you won't believe what happens next, even while it's happening!

China to Ben and Draghi : I'm gonna bring the whole fucking diseased temple down on your heads, it's gonna be biblical!

China to Japan on the islands : I'm gonna give you 3 seconds, exactly 3 fucking seconds to stop your claims on the islands or I will gouge out your eyeballs and skullfuck you!

US Marines to China : I'm gonna rip the eyes out of your head and piss in your dead skull! You fucked with the wrong marines!

Knives enthusiasts to China : You see this knife? I'm gonna teach you to speak english with this fucking knife!

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 23:50 | 2809778 Almost Solvent
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Fucking Brilliant!

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 04:35 | 2810098 Kiwi Pete
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lol. I would love to see those godless commies going biblical on anyone,

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 20:21 | 2809083 kevinearick
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smoke while the embezzlers flee, and this time they have automated MAD.

should be quite a show.

bernanke is learning quantum on the fly, and time is moving quite rapidly, just when he has to learn fine adjustment, but he is tightening relative to the gap.

i will laugh my ass off if all these critters find themselves on the outside looking in and bernanke finds out what it means to be a laborer.

(actually, i will laugh my ass off regardless)

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 20:24 | 2809092 buzzsaw99
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time for that n. korean numb nuts sum dum fuk to go off his meds again

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 20:26 | 2809098 chump666
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China is getting squeezed, Obama siding with japan and doing the trade war dance, is so unwise it's mind boggling. 

Art of War.

"The smaller stubborn side becomes captive of the larger side"

Lowdown.  China dumps USTs, Japan will also, Fed has to monetize everything, only repise is the USD going super bid.  Personally I have no love for the commie Chinese economic "miracle" but I would not be f*cking with them.  For real. 

Major volatility ahead.

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 20:27 | 2809105 bilejones
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"And to think all of this is over a piece of uninhabited rock in the middle of nowhere."


And the minerals that surround it, of course.


And I'm  sure that the political filth in DC is desperately figuring out how to insert the US in this mess.

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 20:41 | 2809153 chump666
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Natural Gas.

See, the ECB and the FED have ensured that the oil price stays supported.  Obama will give the green light to Israel to strike Iran, end yr or early next.  So oil will go bid over 100

Two Asian powerhouses, China and Japan need energy, nuclear freaked out Japan knows Nat gas is in abundance in The South China sea and disputed islands.  India has been onto it with joint ventures with Vietnam.  Tensions have been brewing for months.

Now, analysts say this is nothing, it will blow over, everyone will drink tea and we go back to la la land.  Bullsh*t.  If the west allows a strike on Iran, the China/Japan situtaion will go hot.  IMO, if Israel is told to curb it and sit tight (they are dying to launch the strike against Iran).  Then maybe the dispute will calm down.  But that is wishful thinking.

We have two major wars about to erupt.


Tue, 09/18/2012 - 20:43 | 2809158 chump666
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...and Bourbon is kickass drink.  Good Bourbon though, not the crap

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 22:42 | 2809608 bilejones
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And that's why I've had the Canadian Oil Sands for the past ten years.


I use about 2,000 gallons of oil a year. I try to keep a ten year cushion.

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 23:33 | 2809733 chump666
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You know what might happen, nat gas spikes and oil drops.  Might.  But most likely not, if Iran blows up and Saudi Arabia gets a missile thrown at it.

Energy inflation will lead us into hyperinflation. 

Pure chaos.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 07:13 | 2810226 Dooud
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Or it goes the other way, if China/Japan go hot, Israel eliminates Iran the next day with or without US permission. Iran should be getting nervous about now, man.

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 20:52 | 2809207 Harbanger
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The Islands are worthless to China.  This is a purposeful distraction from China's internal power struggle over leadership of the Communist Party.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:19 | 2812389 Belteshazzar
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it certainly has been putting all of that Bo Xilai trial and Xi Jinping headline news on the back burner.

I thought this was informative albeit a bit old:

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 20:54 | 2809213 Van Halen
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I'm betting it's not even the minerals. It's the right time to move for China - the world is in turmoil, the US is being led by a weak leader - who will stop them? I'd do it if I were Premier or Grand Poobah or whatever it is that runs China.

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 23:38 | 2809747 WAMO556
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Ever watch "The Godfather" where Michael strikes back at ALL of his enemies, and then truly becomes "The Godfather"??? Well, replace Michael with China. The simplicity and elegance of it all. Oh yeah, the US is pretty much every where EXCEPT in eastern Asia. China could move all the way to Melbourne and there wouldn't be a damn thing the USA could do about it. 1. Weak leadership. 2. US Population Morally compromised. 3. Combat, Combat Support, Combat Service Support Units have been aligned along Counter Insurgency Operations and would take serious reorganization and retrofitting to fight High Tempo Main Force operations. And the worst of it is this.... The USA's Financial and Industrial base has been destroyed. Just so we get this straight our politicians (local,state and Fed) along with our bankers have committed TREASON and are traiters. Us, our children, grand children and great grnd children have been sold out, our posterity auctioned off so that some fat rich SOBs could get even fatter and richer.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 04:46 | 2810111 Kiwi Pete
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I doubt the Chinese will attack anyone if they want to see any of the money the US owes them. 

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 20:32 | 2809116 Squid Vicious
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so, one order swan with black pepper sauce...anything else for you tonight?

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 20:55 | 2809215 Van Halen
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Ten minute!

Five dah rah!

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 23:19 | 2809693 WAMO556
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Pineapple and onions.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 07:15 | 2810231 Dooud
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Yes, happy ending please.

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 20:31 | 2809117 disabledvet
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SHOWDOWN at the Kibuki Theater! that's what's next brothers and sisters. Muppets meet puppets!

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 20:31 | 2809119 tmosley
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The Japanese government threw a riot and no-one showed up, so they had their agent provocateurs set a little fire and run away.

Sort of like that Chinese protest earlier where only about 75 people showed up.

This reeks of behind the scenes dealing to me.  Japan switching from American to Chinese protectorate?  China dumps their $200B in Japanese bonds and in exchange, Japan dumps $200B in treasuries to negate the effect, which starts a ball rolling, which the Chinese then push over the cliff by dumping all of theirs, and everyone else follows. 

Behind the scenes, China agrees to bail out Japan if they experience any currency or fiscal issues as a result of this chain of events.

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 21:20 | 2809319 Cosimo de Medici
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It would seem you do not have a lot of Japan experience.  There is a whole subculture of chrysanthemum-loving, Emperor-worshipping, Yukio Mishima types who need little in the way of prompting to do silly things.

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 21:31 | 2809353 tmosley
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Yeah, and jews burned down the Reichstag.

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 22:58 | 2809639 Cosimo de Medici
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You're going to have to work on your aim there, fella.  Your Reichstag bullets are better suited to the likes of Michael or francis_sawyer.

As for your defensiveness, I'll repeat:  it would seem you do not have a lot of Japan experience.  You probably wouldn't know the difference between a Black Truck and a Toyota Hiace.  Apparently you prefer to believe in government conspiracy rather than the consider the possibility that in a country of 125 million, at least one might take offense at the Chinese protests and respond by doing something silly. 

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 23:18 | 2809682 WAMO556
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What??? Mano, you said something. Not sure what it was, because I thinks that you were on some 'Ludes or something. Take a chill and'll then come to you. Just saying.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 00:55 | 2809894 Cosimo de Medici
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It's technical.  Please contact the Official Zerohedge Resident Historian and Cultural Anthropologist falek pema for a more complete explanation.  He's very good and his fees most reasonable.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 00:00 | 2809794 tmosley
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You just make assumptions all the time.  That appears to be all that you do.

Only a fool takes geopolitics at face value.  If you want to actually understand what is going on, you need to look at who benefits from current events and follow the money.  You appear to have no interest in doing so, preferring to jump to the conclusion that this was some half assed act by some Japanese nationalist, something that strikes me as highly unlikely.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 02:27 | 2809887 Cosimo de Medici
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So you hold the monopoly on assumptions?  (Your Reichstag attempted slight was an assumption, and hit quite far of the mark).  Or is saying "some half assed act by some Japanese nationalist, (something) that strikes me as highly unlikely" not an assumption?  Mine are assumptions, yours are sophisticated thorems?  Do you not at least admit the possibility that in a land of 125,000,000 people there might be at least one person that has an ounce of free will and might take exception to his country's embassy being attacked for several days?

Have you ever been called over to a table in a yakitori-ya to share skewers and potato croquettes, and wash them down with a dozen perfectly drawn nama birus, with a bunch of guys with punch perms and wearing wooden slippers, who regaled you with stories of the glorious Emperor and what they would do on His behalf?  Think the Theo van Gogh murderer for some analogous action.  If you have experienced this, could you not consider the possibility that one of these guys would take it upon himself to stand up for what he thinks is "right" without any prompting from unseen powers?  Isn't it even likely?

As another poster said yesterday (aerojet?), most people here cannot accept that there is anything such as randomness in the Universe.  Too unsettling.  Everything MUST be at some great powers command, eh?

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 03:23 | 2810018 Vlad Tepid
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I do have a lot of Japan experience and while I don't deny that it COULD have been a Japanese person that committed this crime, a lot militates against this conclusion.  The Japanese nationalists you refer to are a lot of things, but petty they are not and if they were going to attack something it would likely be a high viz target like the Chinese embassy or a company or they would go straight for people, a Chinese tour group or day laboroers or something.  You sound like someone who would understand what I'm talking about.  These guys want to clubbed by cops on camera trying to storm an embassy or put a beat down of their own on helpless civilians - not petty dust bin arson.

Lighting a fire at a school sounds suspiciously like something a pupil at a school would do, especially if he was particularly charged with adolescent/nationsitic hormones and saw his cooler college age buddies doing it in the home country.  And since only Chinese go to that Chinese school (let's assume) then chances are it was one of their own.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 07:35 | 2810251 Cosimo de Medici
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Yes, one of the non-piano players at my table would tend to take a sword to the task, but there are plenty of less aggressive but equally patriotic Japanese who may have tired of watching four days of NHK film (in slow motion with highlighted action;  you know NHK) of Chinese torching Japanese businesses and the embassy.  Patriotism and bravery do not always walk hand in hand.  While you may consider it unlikely a Nationalist or a Yakuza would merely light a small fire (if this was, in fact, done), it seems equally unlikely that the most the Japanese PTB would do would be the same.  I'd bet a BOJ QE that this was the act of some disgruntled, but not especially brave, patriotic Japanese.

Nihon-go dekimasu ka?

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 09:14 | 2810580 Vlad Tepid
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Yoku dekiru yo. Hotondo Osaka ni sundeimasu kara Kansai-ben de shaberu.  ZH de nihongo wo taipu dekinaikara iraira kedo shikatta ga nai.  Kimi wa?

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 21:33 | 2809365 BigInJapan
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Smartest cat on ZH right here.

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 23:13 | 2809668 WAMO556
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Wouldn't put it past these two countries that they cut a deal between themselves to dump USTreasuries IOT ultimately negate/disrupt the USA. Just saying.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 06:54 | 2810204 YHC-FTSE
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+1 Astute. Is Japan really switching from American to Chinese protectorate? That's a real possibility, if recent trade agreements amongst China's immediate neighbours is an indication of the things to come. My guess is that Japan, like S.Korea, India, et al is hedging its position.

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 20:32 | 2809121 Van Halen
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Has anyone asked Beyonce and Jay Z what this means for US foreign policy in the region? Because it seems like those two get a hell of a lot more attention from Obama than our foreign policy (or anything else important) does.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 05:03 | 2810125 Clashfan
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In the meantime, national policy here is that DHS needs more bullets, plenty for snipers (200 million more rounds of ammo):

A summary of the DHS buildup is in there, too.


Wed, 09/19/2012 - 07:19 | 2810232 overmedicatedun...
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hey clash do you know where they are storing all this ammo and weapons? just wondering? might come in handy.

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 20:32 | 2809122 nasa
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I will take Friday afternoon in the warship sinking a fishing vessel office pool. 

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 20:57 | 2809220 Van Halen
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Good call!

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 20:40 | 2809146 Robert Paulson
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Too early to start assigning the "black swan" label to this?

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 20:44 | 2809162 Bastiat
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Dont' forget that China has a HUGE energy contract with Iran.

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 20:47 | 2809179 tony bonn
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if anyone thinks that the japanese are docile ingratiating servile peace loving people, he should think again....the vicious barbaric atrocities of the japanese in manchuria and all throughout ww2 were of the most cruel in all recorded history....and were the chinese any better? absolutely not - the kangxi emperors were brutal as well.....

but all of this wickedness is god's lesson to us about the repugnance of the times of the gentiles, which will end in about 15 years or so - to be replaced by the millennial reign of jesus christ - when the everlasting peaceable kingdom shall be upon us....

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 03:53 | 2810058 Vlad Tepid
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This is a joke post right?  Jesus Christ in 15 years?  Christ?!  Are you getting this?  You've got a schedule to maintain.

It's fair to point out to our non-tutored in Chinese dynastic history readers that there was only ONE Kangxi emperor and he was a member of the NON-Chinese Qing dynasty and was unremarkable in his cruelties in the company of emperors and is more frequently remembered for his cultural sponsorships.

It's also fair to point out that all Japanese who felt the desire to committ barbaric atrocities were all either killed in WWII, took their own lives in shame, or quietly retired and died in silence.  And very few of their ideological ilk have risen their heads since.  So if you think that 70 years of docile, ingratiating, servile and peace-loving behavior is not enough to satisfy your suspicions how many years would?

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 20:53 | 2809208 TrustWho
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China has how many nukes? Would USA survive the exchange?

Japan and China will be glass, so oveer $2 trillion USA debt terminated. (Note: Assume China would take-out Japan first. Payback, you know!)



Tue, 09/18/2012 - 21:06 | 2809263 Squid Vicious
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my thoughts exactly... bullish!!

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 23:26 | 2809709 Sandmann
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Russia is not going to watch China wreck its world

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 21:06 | 2809262 UGrev
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What happens next? We get some seriously, awesome, Chinese warrior against Japanese warrior movies for the next 20 years. /end sarc. 

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 21:24 | 2809331 Cosimo de Medici
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Or maybe a new Roh Mee Oh and Juri Eto.

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 21:50 | 2809430 Maxter
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For once I think the U-S should intervene in this conflict... with nukes.

Rig those island with nuclear weapons and blow them off the map!

Et voilà! no more island and we avoid ww3.

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 21:56 | 2809455 donpaulo
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The foreign schools here in Japan are also places where adults congregate as well. They hold events, meetings, rallies and so forth. There was a similar problem with North Korean schools too. Generally speaking the Japanese people are extremely reserved and only the hot heads would protest at a school to begin with.

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 22:28 | 2809551 BigInJapan
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Being reserved and acting reserved are two completely different things. This is all daddy's gift to Chibi Ishihara. The "reserved"people of Tokyo keep re-electing an admitted racist as mayor, and soon his son will be named as Prime Minister. Get outside Tokyo much?

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 03:56 | 2810063 Vlad Tepid
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The people of Tokyo support Ishihara like the Egyptians tolerated Mubarak - valued for his political strength, reviled in his constituency.  Get to Tokyo much?

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 22:21 | 2809539 q99x2
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Recommendation: China should go after Apple next.

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 22:23 | 2809545 sangell
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China has behaved disgracefully in this matter. More like a Muslim mob than a Great Power. It has put every nation in Asia on warning that it is a reckless irresponsible power. Rather than driving the United States from the region its behavior over the 'senkaku islands' may well have reopened Subic Bay and Clark Air Force Base in the Philipines as American bases to say nothing of creating a Japanese Fleet that will be the equal of the American 7th fleet on the Pacific Ocean. Well done China. You have swept yourself off the Pacific Ocean before you ever sailed it.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 07:23 | 2810238 Dooud
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You are correct sir and Japan + Taiwan + S.Korea + Australia + India + US > China + N. Korea

Russia will sit out.

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 22:38 | 2809596 Sizzurp
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How long does it take to dig a reinforced bunker with all the goodies?  Lets see here, Belligerent China, Stubborn xenophobic Japan, Incompetent timid Obama, Impulsive opportunistic Putin.  Yep, this is going to get FUBAR real fast.

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 22:59 | 2809643 reader2010
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Let the war begin, please.

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 23:11 | 2809664 Goat Cheese Please
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What is all the hullaballoo over?  Just send Mr Chow over to Japan to handle this matter...




Tue, 09/18/2012 - 23:13 | 2809672 backhandtopspin...
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might be time to sell some bomb shelters on ebay --  never let a crisis go to waste

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 23:25 | 2809706 Sandmann
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Japan should not need long to produce nuclear warheads and Hitachi can build rockets - they should cooperate with India and prepare a two-pronged defensive attack on China. It would be great if Japan closed its factories in China and cut overcapacity out.....the Koreans should do the same.

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 23:35 | 2809735 Stuck on Zero
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I wish out of work Americans would protest unfair and illegal trade practices by China. 


Wed, 09/19/2012 - 00:00 | 2809793 CitizenPete
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Damn, now I will never get my iPad Mini. 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 00:06 | 2809811 flyonmywall
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The Pentagon is quite happy beating up some AK47 toting towelheads and planning the rape of some Iranian camel fuckers, thank you.

They don't need a war with an actual enemy that has a decent military capability.

Japan will be told to back down, or come up with some 50/50 join venture agreement if any resources are found in that area.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 00:11 | 2809819 SkySavage
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My question is:

When will the [INSERT MIDDLE EASTERN COUNTRY NAME HERE] embassy in New York get firebombed? 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 01:49 | 2809949 AnAnonymous
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The 'American' way: target a school where kids are.

The 'american' art of war as practised since 1776, July, 4th.

Too bad for japanese: they are going to discover that in China, there are plenty of wannabee 'americans' waiting to express their eternal US citizen nature.

And that is the kind of stuff 'americans' over their short period of existence (less than 300 years) have proven their excellency.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 02:12 | 2809971 Intoxicologist
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We keeps it real like dat!  /sarc

Actually, a paper bag filled with roadside feces was placed by the gate and set on fire - for someone to step on.

An old Chinese shiticizenism prank.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 03:59 | 2810065 Vlad Tepid
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The 'American' way: target a school where kids are.

Too bad for japanese: they are going to discover that in China, there are plenty of wannabee 'americans' waiting to express their eternal US citizen nature.

Are you actually saying that hot-headed Chinese in Japan started the fire themselves?  Do I dare agree with you for once?

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:52 | 2812239 akak
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in China, there are plenty of wannabee 'americans' waiting to express their eternal US citizen nature.

And AnusAnonymous' whirligig dance of insanitation and blind bigotry continues.

At the risk of indulging an obvious troll, pray tell how can a CHINESE citizen simultaneouly be a US Citizen?

Of course, there is no logical answer to such a question, because the premise is retarded on the face of it --- much like the poster who made it.

There really is no end to your kneejerk and collectivistic hatred of ALL Americans, is there you vile asswipe?

Your cowardice and intellectual inability to answer your critics here who challenge your bigotry and blind hatred of every American only continue to demonstrate what a pathetic and worthless piece of human filth you really are.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 06:51 | 2810201 YHC-FTSE
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Anyone remember the 70's, when burning and hitting japanese cars was considered sport among Americans? If I remember correctly, it was because of the imports damaging the US industries, and the war and probably also because they (we) were all racist motherfuckers in those days. Aaah the memories. 

Anyhoooo, the Chinese burn (their own) Japanese cars, and the Japanese try to burn Chinese kids in return. That's about the level of courage for the average nip is it? Picking on kids? Some folks just love being irradiated every few generations I guess. That sort of behaviour is certainly asking for it.

No culture, no man-ape, no society, no country seems to be immune from the most popular human disease: Abject stupidity. 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 09:55 | 2810759 Chaos_Theory
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Damnit!  Inflation with food is already high, and now f-ing fried rice and sushi prices will skyrocket...

"See what you have to ask yourself is what kind of person are you? Are you the kind that sees signs, that sees miracles? Or do you believe that people just get lucky? Or, look at the question this way: Is it possible that there are no coincidences?" -- Graham Hess (Mel Gibson), Signs

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