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Read My Lips: 18 New 'Obamacare' Taxes

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Don't worry, the 'fiscal cliff' will all be taken care of; have no fear, the market AAPL will hold up into the election to sustain Obama's hope-and-change; and, as The Heritage Foundry blog reports, in that change, there are 18 new tax hikes on their way via Obamacare.

Not only did the President and his partners in Congress take $716 billion out of Medicare to pay for Obamacare, but they also raise taxes by $836.3 billion to pay for it, with $36.3 billion hitting Americans in 2013 alone. Here’s the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) and Joint Committee on Taxation‘s (JCT) updated cost of the Obamacare tax hikes and penalties.

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Tue, 08/21/2012 - 12:27 | 2724120 kridkrid
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No different than the D's talking a big game on war, gitmo, patriot act, etc. people need to wake up. These elections are nothing but a charade. If you support either party you are a pawn, plain and simple.

Tue, 08/21/2012 - 12:34 | 2724152 knightowl77
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Not a pawn...I lose nothing by voting while I prep and make other plans....

You can work within the system, while preparing for a new one...

Tue, 08/21/2012 - 12:44 | 2724190 kridkrid
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Your votes helps to provide legitimacy to something that should be abhorrent to those who think. The belief that it is your patriotic duty and a privilege to vote is pure propaganda.

Wed, 08/22/2012 - 10:18 | 2727118 Ar-Pharazôn
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if you vote you legitimate the system.


i would say it's quite easy to understand.


if in november no american would go to vote what could happen? they couldnt put romney or obama on the chair cause nobody elected him

Tue, 08/21/2012 - 12:29 | 2724132 knightowl77
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If the repugs win and do nothing about repealing obummercare , then that is when the sheeple will have had enough...IMHO

Tue, 08/21/2012 - 12:33 | 2724147 john39
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do we really need more evidence of the "two party scam"?  anyone with a functioning brain should get it by now...

Tue, 08/21/2012 - 13:31 | 2724422 gmrpeabody
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There are very few functioning brains left..., even here, at ZH, they have become outnumbered.

Tue, 08/21/2012 - 12:33 | 2724144 knightowl77
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Sorry Dbl Post

Tue, 08/21/2012 - 12:56 | 2724241 GeezerGeek
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Anyone who thinks elections and who gets elected don't have consequences is a fool. Reagan reversed the decaying situation created by Carter. The Republican sweep of Congress in 1994 led to at least a few years of nearly-balanced budgets despite Clinton's initial resistance. Obama's 2008 victory put the US on a far different course, in my estimation, than what would have been followed by the incompetent Senator opposing him in the election. Farther back, what if Henry Wallace had remained Roosevelt's VP rather than his being replaced by Truman?

Would Romney's policies be different than Obama's? I don't know. But based on what I've seen, they can't be any worse for the US. Obama acts like a wannabe despot, and I can't stand Michelle one bit. At least Laura Bush wasn't irritating.

Throw the old bums out. Bring in new bums.

Tue, 08/21/2012 - 13:02 | 2724271 kridkrid
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Nice narrative. Glad it's working for ya.

Tue, 08/21/2012 - 13:58 | 2724543 malek
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Very telling you don't mention once any effects of Bush II

Tue, 08/21/2012 - 16:55 | 2725278 redd_green
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Reagan cleaned up nothing.  Nothing!   The people who control the monetary system made the big changes.  Apparently, you read propaganda, but don't read history.   If you don't think so, then figure out how, the next time the Fed makes an adjustment to the monetary system, the president "caused it".   

Tue, 08/21/2012 - 12:30 | 2724136 MiltonFriedmans...
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That may well be true, but if Romney wins, I don't have to look at the purple lipped Kenyan's face quite as often, so I've got that goin for me,, which in nice.....

Tue, 08/21/2012 - 13:01 | 2724267 divide_by_zero
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Or hear the Kenyan's whistling S in his speech pattern when he's talking primarily to whites. Sounds like the old pedaphile on Family Guy.

Tue, 08/21/2012 - 13:08 | 2724296 bobnoxy
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Another right wing racist? There sure seems to be a lot of you.

Tue, 08/21/2012 - 18:30 | 2725531 Overfed
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What the fuck are you talking about?

Tue, 08/21/2012 - 18:38 | 2725543 akak
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Bobnoxious, as usual, is talking about nothing.

He is merely a flippant and antagonistic troll with nothing to add to the conversation ---- his posts are best ignored.

Wed, 08/22/2012 - 10:22 | 2727141 Ar-Pharazôn
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you're retarded or what?


if i dont like a Kenyan am i racist?


burn yourself idiot

Tue, 08/21/2012 - 12:08 | 2724054 Hype Alert
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And once again, at least this won't affect the stock market.  [/sarc]  Onward and upward.

Tue, 08/21/2012 - 12:08 | 2724056 drchris
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They didn't take $716 billion of out Medicare.  They just fixed the glitch.  It'll just work itself out naturally.

Tue, 08/21/2012 - 12:12 | 2724073 phalfa5
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Hoping for more (of your) change ....

Tue, 08/21/2012 - 12:12 | 2724080 Hype Alert
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Anything not a tax, is a loophole.

Tue, 08/21/2012 - 19:17 | 2725631 SAT 800
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"Anything not a tax, will be." /there, fixed it for ya.

Tue, 08/21/2012 - 20:45 | 2725858 StychoKiller
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Let me tell you how it will be,
There’s one for you, nineteen for me,
‘Cause I’m the Taxman,
Yeah, I’m the Taxman.
Should five per cent appear too small,
Be thankful I don’t take it all.
‘Cause I’m the Taxman,
Yeah, I’m the Taxman.

(If you drive a car ), I’ll tax the street,
(If you try to sit ), I’ll tax your seat,
(If you get too cold ), I’ll tax the heat,
(If you take a walk ), I’ll tax your feet...

[/quote] -- The Beatles, "The Taxman"

Wed, 08/22/2012 - 10:27 | 2727172 Ar-Pharazôn
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i m not the best estimator/fan of "The Beatles"


but are these lyrics real?

Wed, 08/22/2012 - 01:06 | 2726351 Bizaro World
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drchris - nicely placed Officespace quote, unfortunately, most did not catch it.

Now where is my red stapler?


Tue, 08/21/2012 - 12:13 | 2724074 Arnold Ziffel
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Wait until the Internet Sales Tax hits this Fall. That will really stimulate consumer spending and the GDP....


Tue, 08/21/2012 - 12:12 | 2724077 ReeferMac
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I just love the concept of taxing companies for XYZ based on their percentage of the market that they own/operate?


Like THAT won't get passed down to the consumer (e.g. you and me....) Fucking idiot's.

Tue, 08/21/2012 - 12:15 | 2724088 phalfa5
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ooohhh....     french.  is that where we're headed?

Wed, 08/22/2012 - 10:29 | 2727186 Ar-Pharazôn
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to me looks like a nice idea.


Tue, 08/21/2012 - 12:16 | 2724089 monopoly
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And we wonder why small business owners hire fewer employees and let more go when they can. What a bunch of psycopaths we have running this country. 

Tue, 08/21/2012 - 12:45 | 2724195 XitSam
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Is a parasite a psychopath? Its job is to destroy the host.  All according to plan.

Tue, 08/21/2012 - 12:23 | 2724114 adr
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Higher taxes, higher food prices, more cash for gas, WHAT COULD GO WRONG!!!!

What I find troubling is the 12 month retail contract for nat gas never dropped below $4.79 per MCF. Even when nat gas hit under $2, the long term contracts never changed. In fact the current long term contract is actually more expensive than it was last year.

The best long term contract available for me right now is $4.89 plus $1.59 usage based charge. $6.48 total price per MCF of gas. $3.68 MORE THAN THE CURRENT WHOLESALE SPOT PRICE!!! The longer term two and three year contracts are even more expensive. Not to mention the taxes, fees and $25 base charge.

I currently use a monthly variable rate that has a total cost of $4.74. Do I keep that and bet that natgas stays low, or do I pay nearly $2 more per MCF to lock in a price for the next year?

This is the kind of bullshit Wall Street and Washington has pushed on regular people. Energy Choice was supposed to reduce costs but it only sent the average bill 300% higher in less than a decade. Ten years ago the monthly base charge was $5 and there was no usage based charge added to each MCF of gas. Your bill was $5 plus $.50 higher than the month end contract for gas per MCF. Taxes and other fees added about 3% to the bill.

If you used 1 MCF of gas based on the old system your bill would be right around $8.55. Today the same usage would net you a bill of $30.64. I'm sure somewhere some politician is claiming that this plan saved people money.

Just like some natural gas supplier is saying they aren't making any money when they can buy a contract for natgas for $2.80 per MCF and sell it for over $6 retail.

Tue, 08/21/2012 - 12:31 | 2724142 ebworthen
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And utility monopolies that supposedly provide the best service at the best price.

As if mandating health insurance is going to make service better and lower the price.

What planet are these people from?

Tue, 08/21/2012 - 13:50 | 2724514 XitSam
Tue, 08/21/2012 - 17:01 | 2725297 redd_green
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Why, massachusetts.   Obama care is Romney Care!   Isn't that special?   Damned no matter which crooked party you vote for.

Tue, 08/21/2012 - 12:27 | 2724124 mrktwtch2
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zzzz..will somebody pleas knock apple off 30 bucks so we can get some movement here!!

Tue, 08/21/2012 - 12:27 | 2724127 ebworthen
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They need to tax the piss out of us to support he sickcare industry of big pharma, corporate hospitals, "insurance" parasites, and the American Bar Association.

This isn't about "healthcare", it is about "mo' money, mo' money, mo' money" for everyone but the middle class and perpetuating and deepening our indentured servitude to the kleptoligarchy.

Tue, 08/21/2012 - 18:01 | 2725471 TimmyB
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No shit.  Romenycare is Obamacare, so how can any thinking person think that Romney is going to get change shit, other of course reinstalling all the Bushies after getting rid of all Obama's Clintonites?   

Sure, taxes will need to be raised to pay for WhoeverCare, but can we look at who's going to be getting all that money?  Why, what a suprise, Obama has hundreds of billions of dollars of taxpayer dollars going to private insurance companys to pay for private insurance policies.  Talk about Wall Street wins again!  Obama, who some morons actually believe is a socialist, put fucking finance industry skimmers incharge of this nation's healthcare program.  What a Marxist Statist NOT.   

Open your eyes. 




Tue, 08/21/2012 - 12:30 | 2724133 zebrasquid
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Landslide coming.  Latent dislike and distrust of Obama and his putrid blend of incompetence, arrogance and unExceptionalism is boiling just below the surface and will soon erupt.

The magic negro act has gotten very stale.

Tue, 08/21/2012 - 12:48 | 2724207 kridkrid
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A fine example of talk radio doing the thinking for a large % of people. It is very interesting to track.

Tue, 08/21/2012 - 13:03 | 2724276 GeezerGeek
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Do you really think the recent cover of Newsweek makes it a part of talk radio? Or that the editors thereof are Rush Limbaugh fans? Go post on Daily Kos if this is the best you can do.

Tue, 08/21/2012 - 13:41 | 2724474 kridkrid
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If the elite want a landslide election in the fall, the elite will get a landslide election in the fall. They can give it to whichever candidate is best able to advance their cause and they can do it whenever they want. The elite are best served by dividing and conquering, thus our two party system. The objective is to keep people divided and distracted.

Newsweek... What exactly is your point about Newsweek? It is basically a merged entity with the Daily Beast and is little more than a mouthpiece for all sorts of political elite. They get to shape our thoughts.

Tue, 08/21/2012 - 13:54 | 2724530 kridkrid
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Let me add one more thought on Newsweek... Do you not see how that cover just provided you with legitimacy? I mean just look at your post... See, even Newsweek agrees. People will watch a debate, but wait for the pundits to tell them what to think. Choose the flavor of pundit-tacracy that you like and go. The post that I responded to used the EXACT language that I heard recently on the hannity radio program. I listen a couple times a week, morbid curiosity.

Tue, 08/21/2012 - 12:32 | 2724145 bubbleburster
Tue, 08/21/2012 - 12:37 | 2724161 GeezerGeek
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Perhaps it's just my browser or my timing, but thanks for the irony: An ad from Ditzy Wasserman-Schultz requesting me to sign a petition asking Republicans to stop playing politics with healthcare appeared right next to the line about Obamacare stealing $716 billion from Medicare. 

A very small part of me wants Obama to win and the Democrats to retain control of the Senate, because then all those nitwits who voted them in will be forced to suffer the consequences. Unfortunately, all the nitwits who did not vote for them will also suffer the consequences.

I guess one-world government can't work if America remains strong and independent.

Tue, 08/21/2012 - 12:38 | 2724162 jplotinus
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We know that capitalism cannot afford to pay wages, benefits for healthcare, let alone pensions. And, health and pensions also cost too much for the US government because those items require taxation.

The USA gets this. I wonder what's the matter with the rest of the developed countries on the planet? They all adopted some form of public, universal healthcare for their citizens at least 65 years ago, at the latest.

Boy are they ever behind the times..,


Tue, 08/21/2012 - 12:59 | 2724259 divide_by_zero
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You must mean socialism cannot afford to pay, it always ends the same when they run out of other people's money. US now heading towards that cliff, no sign of capitalism here.

Tue, 08/21/2012 - 12:39 | 2724166 gamera9
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1.5 billion from 10% excise tax on tanning. How is the industry 15 Billion a year? If our nation goes back to parasols and powdered wigs as a fashion trend, there is our black swan.

Tue, 08/21/2012 - 12:39 | 2724170 johnQpublic
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