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Remember The 15 Sigma Surge In Greek Financial Stocks This Week? Here Is An Update

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Remember the 15 sigma move (yes, the move was 15 standard deviations) in Greek financial stocks on the failed attempt by the country to create its very own TBTBF bank with some Petrodollar support? Here is a quick update of how that ended up.


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Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:54 | 1620192 rubyruffruff
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2 pic's r worth a thousand laughs...

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:55 | 1620199 slaughterer
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Greece: A national stock exchange index turned into a penny stock P&D.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:08 | 1620295 nope-1004
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"TBTBF".... is this a new acronym Tyler?  LOL....

Too big to be f*ckd?

Too boring to bait financials?

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:37 | 1620429 New_Meat
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lol--keep it up, you b on a roll ;-)

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 18:26 | 1620859 Strider52
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The Bank That Bought Farms?

The Back-To-Back F*ck?

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 19:56 | 1621085 DogSlime
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"The Back-To-Back F*ck?" - Perfect!  I launged enough to make me want to pee.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:15 | 1620324 kengland
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Where do I get a "15 simga" shirt? Graphic would include a greek style stretch

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:54 | 1620193 Irish66
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Thank goodness August is over, September will bring some truth.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:54 | 1620194 monopoly
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These markets are so broken. Now we are up 65 after being red 5 minutes ago. What a wreck this planet has become.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:00 | 1620239 Nothing To See Here
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And IMO, the markets are not just broken, they're not markets anymore. More like zombie markets. Few small investors are still in it, they're now mostly crowded by state agencies, pension funds and large banks (i.e. state agencies, state agencies and state agencies).

I would not be surprised if these abominations of "markets" could keep levitate to record highs even in the presence of mass unemployment such as in the 30's.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:48 | 1620480 Debugas
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rigged casino roulette

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:54 | 1620196 Gubbmint Cheese
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what caused the jump in the Dow/S&P 30 or so minutes ago?

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:55 | 1620203 gatorontheloose
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afternoon delight

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:56 | 1620207 papaswamp
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closing bell ramp on no volume...must

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:57 | 1620217 So Close
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Your avatar name.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:58 | 1620220 Racer
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Usual shenagins for end of month spies queues and diamond witches

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:02 | 1620252 Cognitive Dissonance
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The penis implant is failing in the last few minutes. All they have left is bubble gum and Band-Aids.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:55 | 1620201 Ellesmere
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Please explain.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:55 | 1620202 Racer
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I need an electron microscope for the second chart!

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:56 | 1620206 Id fight Gandhi
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Isnt this rare?

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:07 | 1620282 Long-John-Silver
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It's so cooked it well done

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:09 | 1620298 DeadFred
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It should be. Under the assumption of normal distribution in statistics 15 standard deviations is about 1 in a gazillion probability (to be technically acurate), but markets don't have normal distribution so those "rare" events happen a lot more than expected. Jokingly I suggest that stochastic statistics be used instead. After all two bankrupt banks becoming one bankrupt bank is a stochastic event and must be bullish, correct?

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 17:43 | 1620701 Id fight Gandhi
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Does that markov stuff work here?

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:56 | 1620212 kito
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so greece is discussing "cash" collateral with finland. so, ummm, greece, who has no cash, is looking to "borrow" more cash, which will be a loan that is based on "cash" collateral????  huh????

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:16 | 1620328 myne
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Finland will deposit the cash to the new bank.

The new bank will write a loan to the value of the cash*10.

10% of the new loan will go to Finland as collateral.

Greece buys lube, condoms, marshmallows and wine.

Everyone gets fucked doggy style around the bonfire that was their economy while snacking on roasted marshmallows and quaffing Dom Perignon 53

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:20 | 1620348 Oh regional Indian
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Crazy world. Maya!


Wed, 08/31/2011 - 17:37 | 1620671 kito
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how is the whole indian wedding-gold-silver story looking for sept?

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 17:44 | 1620703 Id fight Gandhi
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Doubt it's a factor.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:57 | 1620221 ABG LINE
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Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:58 | 1620225 Cognitive Dissonance
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15 times your pleasure, 15 times your fun. Makes sense to me.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:38 | 1620441 New_Meat
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them Wrigley Twins were always hot.  Octo-Mom only had eight.  How unlikely is it to have 15 babez? ;-)

- Ned

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:59 | 1620231 DeadFred
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Kind of reminds me of the S&P from 2013

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:02 | 1620254 achmachat
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hello, fellow time traveller.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:12 | 1620307 DeadFred
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Don't I know you from that conference in 2016?

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:12 | 1620308 DeadFred
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Don't I know you from that conference in 2016?

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:31 | 1620407 Sudden Debt
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what made you come back twice to this time?

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:16 | 1620327 Sudden Debt
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did you bring that sports almanac I asked you for?

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:00 | 1620244 Sudden Debt
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I love mirages :)

They give lemmings hope. They all go for it AND BOOM BITCH!!! YOUR DEATH AND BROKE!!!!!!!! WHOEHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:03 | 1620259 RobotTrader
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Maybe Whole Foods Market should open some "superstores" in Greece.

$10 to $66 in the worst recession since the 1930's, still selling stuff marked up 300% because it has a "green" label on it.

Nobody seems to be bothered by the 62 P/E ratio, either....

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:05 | 1620267 achmachat
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i can assure you that every produce you can buy in Greece is "greener" than Whole Food's stuff

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 17:47 | 1620718 Id fight Gandhi
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Whole foods just takes money from the stupid and uppity people who shop for groceries. Organic is bullshit anyway. Funny how women get wrapped up in the whole foods bs to eat natural then go off and pop antidepressant and birth control pills.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 17:48 | 1620721 kito
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thanks robo, if it wasnt for you we wouldve never guessed the market is failing to price in reality.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:05 | 1620271 disabledvet
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"me mongro! Me like candy!"

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:06 | 1620278 JohnG
Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:07 | 1620281 fbrothers
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Running on empty.


Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:07 | 1620283 mynhair
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Looks like a BTFD opportunity to me.


But I need new glasses.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:10 | 1620301 Long-John-Silver
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But I need new glasses.


These are nice and inexpensive too. I get all my glasses from them.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:19 | 1620344 mynhair
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Thanks, tho I was afraid to click the link, knowing you.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:12 | 1620306 wandstrasse
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but '15 sigma move' sounds really impressive, like '18 teraflops cluster computing' or '14.000 horsepower nuclear submarine engine'...

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:18 | 1620339 Sudden Debt
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why would you put horses in a submarine?


Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:20 | 1620347 mynhair
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To get to the surface?  Dunno...

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 20:35 | 1621158 youngman
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to throw at the filthy British......a la monty Python

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:42 | 1620452 buzzsaw99
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you use a . instead of a , when punctuating your numbers but then use a non metric unit when describing power? That's like me saying cheerio pips pips when talking about the bernank.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 17:30 | 1620640 JohnG
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Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:27 | 1620385 Scalaris
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Like trying to rescuscitate a corpse with an alarm clock.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:37 | 1620436 Variance Doc
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It does sound inpressive when the reference distributions is Gaussian.  However, the distribution is non-Gaussian so these types of events are not really 15 sigma, but more common.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:38 | 1620439 Imminent Collapse
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Greece may be a problem.  But it is competing with Italy for first place for the country whose population could give a flying fuck about the contagion it is causing and just wants to keep the party rolling.  Move over Belarus.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:41 | 1620450 New_Meat
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I remember Keene on Bloomberg during the melt-down in '08--"Folks that is an eight-standard-deviation move."

So, if this is 15 Sigma, it is like "once in the life of the universe."

- Ned

Thu, 09/01/2011 - 00:53 | 1621746 janus
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my thoughts, too.

i wanted to try and calculate it to see for myself -- 15 sig seems impossible (apart from theory)

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:45 | 1620469 The Deleuzian
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Maybe the Bizarrro Universe!!

You Know! the other one!!

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:50 | 1620487 Fuh Querada
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Point well taken about the upside spike, but "sigma" (standard deviation of a Gaussian distribution) is to put it mildly a highly questionable measure  for the fat-tail type of distribution that these price fluctuations exhibit.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 17:18 | 1620601 espirit
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Yep, it sux.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 17:22 | 1620612 espirit
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Five dry fires on a six load wheelgun.  Roulette at it's best!

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 17:37 | 1620674 janus
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i have a bit of experience with six-sigma stuff; but it wasn't related to finance.

can anyone direct me to some resource that would spell out the mechanics that constitute the financial six sig?  in other words, what's needed to calculate it?

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 18:21 | 1620844 GoldenEye
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Wed, 08/31/2011 - 18:26 | 1620858 Arkadaba
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Agree with the poster above. I'm self taught but have used various statisical measures over the years for a number of things - but this article suggests that a sigma move is the same as STD?  And STD is great for separating the wheat from the chaff - but that is about it.  Any pointers to a tutorial that explains statiscal measures in finance?

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 20:38 | 1621163 youngman
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Well I have a 12 inch Sigma..and that looks like an 8 sigma to me....John Holmes

Thu, 09/01/2011 - 02:24 | 1621888 seoerlin
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