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Remember Fukushima? It's Back
The problem with sweeping unresolved problems, especially of the unstable gamma decay variety, is that they tend to pop up at the most inopportune of times. Such as during global coordinated fiat ponzi bailouts. Kyodo reports that according to TEPCO a fresh fission reaction has restarted at Fukushima Daichi, and that boric acid is being injected to control a "possible nuclear reaction." Hardly the encouraging news that the world needs right about now.
From Kyodo:
TEPCO finds sign of fresh nuclear fission at Fukushima reactor
Tokyo Electric Power Co. said Wednesday there may be signs of fresh nuclear fission in the No. 2 reactor at its quake-damaged Fukushima Daiichi power plant and that it has begun injecting boric acid to control a possible nuclear reaction.
There has been no change in the temperature, pressure and radiation levels at the reactor, whose nuclear fuel is believed to have melted when the cooling system failed following the March 11 earthquake and tsunami, the utility known as TEPCO said.
Gas samples taken Tuesday from inside the reactor's containment vessel may contain radioactive xenon, a gas typically generated by nuclear fission, the company said.
What is the conventional wisdom thinking on Fukushima anyway? Out of sight, out of mind? Yeah, we thought so.
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its baack..
It never left
boric acid
+1
"on a long enough timeline..."
I'm starting to feel like soon I wont need a very long timeline.
Headlines coming later:
Neutron beams detected... under ground.
Massive steam coming from ground water.
I'm sure everything is just fine over at Fukushima.
Like the report says, everything is fine, they are just being proactive so a nuclear chain reaction does not occur. Move along....
if, as we learned from that 70's show (et. al.), cockroaches survive nuclear explosions, imo the injection of boric acid is ominous.
A study (Tarasenko et al. 1972), summarized by Moore (1997), found a decrease in sexual activity in 28 workers exposed to very high concentrations of boron (10 mg/m3). Examination of the semen from six of the workers demonstrated a reduction in semen volume, a decrease in the number of spermatozoa, and decreased sperm motility.
short japanese panty vending machine makers.
The sexual activity of workers is a troubling thing, so lets add boron to the water supply. It's for the best.
Check out the dead and dying seals from a "mysterious" disease in western Alaska. I found out the skinny on RSOE EDIS and this is more than troubling, it's disastrous.
At least now we know which way the radioactive seawater currents flow.
"Hardly the encouraging news that the world needs right about now."
The world ( AKA America) does not care. Nor will they be told about this current "nuclear event" Mainstream media was caught off guard when it reported the earthquake and nuke melt down in the first place - they did not mean to tell the truth and were quickly brought into line so the market could "Fukushima Rally" up to new yearly highs soon after. ( remember Katrina? - same thing - truth in reporting quickly vanished ) Fukushima is a disaster of epic proportions, generations from now ( if our greedy, species is still around) maybe we will see that. We cannot continue down the path of nuclear power - its been a lie from day one, we need to shut down and dismantle every reactor in the world.Japan has almost HALF of US's total population.....that's a lot of people...and due to failing ponzinomics unemployeed people. a lot of old folks as well.
Fukushima is one for way Japanese elites to get rid of some country folks to address overpopulation. Sick shit.
Kim Kardashian's divorce is far more interesting to the public at large.
You know, uncontrolled, spontaneous fission is SOOOOO BORING....
Just wait until we have a solar flare with EMP and it takes the power down ,we can then whatch every nuclear plant have full melt down after 3 days when there generators run dry
We have to find a way to keep ZH going without electricity.
Paper, ponies -- I don't know.
I think it may be time to give the China Syndrome a new name. I mean, they don't need it, do they? Perhaps we should hold a naming contest in Fukushima to lift everyone's morale?
Godzilla Syndrome
well according to the antipodes map it could be the buenos aires syndrome. http://www.antipodemap.com/
Localized headlines / CNBC script App for US:
Nuclear Power Is Safe
Nuclear Power Is Cheap
Nuclear Power Is Carbon Emission Free
From the Bloomberg screen bugs this AM:
"No new radiation found. Situation under control. TEPCO."
That followed a bug that said "New radiation emission at Fukushima." So which is it? Sounds like the PTB cant get their stories straight. But I guess it's all good if it distracts from Europe.
godzilla rises.
I wondered why Encore has been playing "Godzilla vs. Mothra" so much lately....
brack swan is growing
collecshun: Brack swan is Glowing
My wife just laughed and said now there's no reason for personal austerity. She's going shopping tomorrow. Thanks a butt load, fellas.
I know the feeling...
Separate bank accounts. Problem solved
That's what was said, "Brack swan is growing".
movie "black swan" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0947798/ shown in japanese theaters 2 months after fukushima.
house values always go up ....unless some wave knocks your radioactive reactor out and contaminates your entire neighborhood.
renters can simply move away.
I am long on kaiju, shorting Tokyo.
...on a long enough half life...
nice.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-15533018
check out the idiot trying to convince the public it is all Ok.....
in the word of Bill Hicks
We have figured it out....Go back to bed America(Japan)
your government is in control again......
The article states that the tsunami caused "partial meltdown in three of its reactos." What BS! There are three meltTHROUGHS and one if not all have been conclusively been shown to have occured as a result of the earthquake alone . . . Fore un-BBCed info, , check out www.enenews.com
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=cyclops-shark-joins-ranks-cryptic-creatures
my favorite part? the cyclops kitten corpse sold to the creationist lost world museum.
Now I don't have to decide what's for lunch, 'cause I'm no longer hungry.
Bingo. It's been ongoing underground.
When underground is nearly at sea level, that's not such a great place for it to occur of course.
http://www.nnistar.com/gmap/fukushima.html
At this rate, I'm beginning to wonder if we'll even make it to 12.12.12.
Its 12-21-12 BTW...and we'll make it. We might have three balls and green piss, but we'll make it.
Green piss'd be a new novelty.
I once pissed green! It was up in the Andes, at about 13,000 feet. I presume is was the extra-blue sky up there, the bus had stopped for a pee-break. I know that it was green because one of my friends with me was pissing green too, right there just off the road. 1981. True story. Ask my friend Howie!
I just hope it doesn't sting coming out! :-0
Why does it hurt when I pee?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oL_DxT2UOyo
I'll worry about that after 11.11.11.
double post
in spades. here is devastating commentary of american college professor living past 10 years in Kyoto.
Frank E. Daulton, Professor of Economics and Linguistics at Ryukoku University in Kyoto says: "I can't believe this is going on! This is a nightmare. Japan has lost its future." He asserts severity of radiation in Japan air, land and water is vastly understated by Japan gov. : http://enenews.com/professor-believe-going-nightmare-im-afraid-dealt-fatal-blow-japan-japan-lost-future-videoIt never left
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This. The free press (aka US citizen propaganda press organization) always report about anything but with different focuses. Fukushima in the free press world is worth a small line on the secondlast page.
Other pieces of news like the awesome Somali Pirates deserve front full pages. They will allow an invasion of a country. Much more profitable that harping on a nuclear situation that can not be put under control.
Eat your kobe beef. It is radioactive but how tasty!
I remember as a kid that Chernobyl was all over the telescreen. Of course that was our Soviet enemy in Eurasia. Japan is currently part of Oceania. Never mind, I've said enough already. Back to the Ministry of Truth.
Better than the Cliff Notes version!
awesome post!
Exactly. Those incompetent Soviet alcoholics couldn't generate nuclear power safely, much less understand macro-economics and human rights. How could any population allow themselves to be controlled by such an incompetent and oppressive regime? Dumb Slavics.
I remember as a kid that Chernobyl was all over the telescreen.
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And you will remember Chernobly as an elder as the biggest nuclear disaster ever.
Watch sitcoms. They will keep Chernobyl as the ultimate reference for nuclear mess up.
Maybe if the Chinese or the negroes in South Africa have a nuclear incident. Ah, good potential, these ones...
Free speech does not exist in this US driven world. It is all about controlling censorship. Censoring what could harm your group and revealing what could harm the other groups.
It is how it works in the US world order.
stop posting, prole, and get back to work
I remember Chernobyl very well.
Fact is: The nearer you were to Chernobyl, the greater the denial. I can remember that a Tagesschau (maybe the most important news source at the time) newsspeaker said a few days after it was confirmed; that the people of Chernobyl are drinking the water in the region again - a minor incident, nothing to worry, brother. Keep working.
It was only until later that we had to change every goddamn filter in the company, that they had to change the sand on the playgrounds, that we discovered radioactivity in boars (which until today have a so high Caesium level that they are instantly "disposed" - boars are eating the local Bavarian truffles which are highly contaminated.) See, I know some hunters in that region and they have no "fun" at all (One told me that they had to dispose everything - 10 out of 10.)
Wanna see a nice & scary map (May 1986 West Germany; ground contamination with CS137):
http://www.leifiphysik.de/web_ph12/geschichte/11tschernobyl/bodencs_k.jpg
Until this day I don't like to eat any mushroom (and I don't mean drugs ;) here in Germany (add Austria, Hungary etc) were I don't know the source. There is still contaminated ground here. Even my region was hit a bit (mildly but still).
Btw: I am not living in Bavaria. It's such a beautiful landscape. Most people have forgotten Chernobyl or are claiming that Chernobyl wasn't that bad. People are still living, so what? But if you take a closer look on this, you cannot forget it.
That's one of the reasons I am against nuclear technology. Maybe you can understand why Germans are such environmentalist. (That's one reason.)
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There will be another Fukushima/Chernobyl incident in my lifetime. Let's hope it will only be a minor incident.
Not sure why anyone would thnk Fukushima was no longer an issue. Fukup-shima will be a disaster area for centuries.
www.enenews.com
www.fairewinds.com
ex-skf.blogspot.com
Japan: Where every watch including digitals glow in the dark.
Btw and this is no shit, I recently told my dentist during the last exam, "No X-rays". He asked, "Why not?" I told him, "Japan has already taken about 2 million X-rays of my head this past year and that's enough."
I had to get my hand x-ray'd for a fracture and the x-ray tech laughed at me as I piled every single lead apron over and around me on all sides. He asked why I would do that, my answer "Those x-rays bounce all over the room and hit you from behind, besides I get enough exposure from Fukushima" to which he laughed again and said something about how he hasnt heard lately that Fukushima is even a problem...
Sheeple.
Fukushima who? I thought it was the guy from accounting
note bernanke always refers to this accident when talking as a major excuse for global slowdown this year next year and 2020
and 278020.
And Hillary just signed an agreement (many weeks ago) with Japan to import goods (including food) without radioactive inspection. http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/news/intrnational/2011/08/15/605.html
J. Frank Parnell is her scientific advisor: "Everybody could stand a hundred chest X-rays a year."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qljXevEW2W0
In the Soviet Union food grown near Chernobyl was sent all over the country to be consumed instead of being disposed of. This keeps the "economy" humming while making it very difficult to trace the source of health problems. Eat local. Unless you live near a hot spot.
"a possible nuclear reaction"?? LOLOLOL
What else would it be???
Incidental cross-tectonic gas discharge from fracking operations in Pennsylvania. Nothing to worry about. Carry on.
Santa Claus!
Swamp gas, unless it is swamp gas then it's a weather balloon.
Dry cleaning bags filled with marsh gas!
That's probably it.
There's a lot of swamps close to me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwqgdUV5BFk&NR=1
TEPCO (really, not a joke) said not to worry, "it's a small reaction"
(joyous whimpering sounds as I dream of applying Louisville Slugger to PR's head... it's just a checked swing)
It's just a flesh wound. Have at you!
The level of radiation in the northern hemisphere was already double what it was in the southern after Chernobyl. With this going on for almost a year, what is it now? 4x? 8x? Is anyone seriously considering moving to the southern hemisphere? This is crazy.
it's amazing when there's no threat (Saddam, no terrorism to speak of etc) the politicos trumpet like freaks and you can't shut the shrill buggers up... when there's a huge threat (Fukinshambles) the muppets play it cool and are quiet as Church mouses!!
It is amazing but very easy to understand in the US driven world.
US citizenism does not provide with a proper context for debates because debate has one requirement: admitting facts.
In US citizenism, admittance of facts is counter-balanced by denial of facts.
What is better to monetize?
In Iraq case, US citizens deny there were no WMDs because denial is much more profitable.
In Fukushima case, US citizens deny the event because denial is much more profitable.
When it comes to US citizens, it is always good to balance admittance with denial, trying to figure out which one is the most profitable.
US citizens usually choose profits over truth.
Truth, justice, freedom: US motto.
Bullish, futures just turned green with that announcement.
was that fluorescent, radioactive green or just the run of the mill, everything is bullish(it) green?
Probably more of a Cherenkov Radiation blue.
I can't see, I can't see....
Anybody remember Heinlein?
We are all Blind Rhysling now.
When does the Macondo Well re-crack open up and emit the government's estimated 5,000 barrels of oil (i.e. a true 100,000 barrels of oil) per day, and then 200,000 barrels of corexit are used to sink the oil into a massive pool of oil at the bottom of the ocean floor?
At least the European Union DebtApocalypse is solved, though, where they've set up a highly leveraged stabilization fund that will be some multiple of $0, to have the one to two solvent EU member states bail out the remainder of the massively indebted, insolvent ones (with PIIGS+France+UK, or PIIGSFUK, forming the core).
If 100,000 mildly radioactive barrels of oil per day isn't bad enough, wait until all the methane hydrate deposits the oil pushes up through is released by the heat of the oil.
Nothing bad can happen from that, other than a K-T boundary-type planetary extinction. Bullish!
Wait What
Wait What, What?
For radioactivity:
http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/Gulf-of-Mexico-Oil-Spill-Blog-Gulf-Seafood-Radium-Levels_printer.shtml
For methane hydrate:
http://www.technologyreview.com/energy/22756/
Mass extinctions:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/08/030828071722.htm
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2088-methane-prime-suspect-for-greatest-mass-extinction.html
What the hell do I know, I wasn't there, but this seems more plausible than Europe sticking together and Fukushima reducing cancer like Ann Coulter said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXFUUGeV1DI
@ UP
K-T boundary? Iridium bithcez!
Wow, that's some scary shit. Hey, what time does "Dancing With America's Next Top Chef" come on?
I believe it's Dancing With America's Next Iron & Top Chefs Who Are Cooking for the Stars at Kim Kardashian's Next Wedding While the Walking Dead in her Reception Line Are Being Serenaded By American Idols & Watching Monday Night Football and Tweeting from their iPhone 4s's.
Bahahahaha! Well played, sir.
Oooooooooo, I just LOVE that show!
Did you see what she was wearing?!
Dont worry. We have an election coming up. Once the anger and awareness of Americans results in new politicians taking the "oath" things will be instantly resolved by the almighty voice of We the People. Japan will see healing purity fall from the sky. ...and our nation's banks will lift up small businesses everywhere!.... and puppies will live forever and never turn into dogs....And Twinkies will be healthy again and a mighty empire will rise up led by our new President!!!! Yay!!!
Haven't you heard, they're bringing back Polaroids and cassette tapes. Looks like Barry McFly and Doc Ben are gonna rev up inflation to 88 mph to bring us "Back to 1984"....
Just keep them away from my flux capacitor. They've worn it out enough repeating history.
Is this what it all comes down to?
If a derivatives meltdown doesn't kill you, a nuclear one would?
I guess we will soon be regretting the plague days ... at least it was swift back then.
"Ring around the rosie, pocket full of posies" sounds a lot better than "Ring around the TV, pocket full of plutonium"....
This incident completely marks the end of any notion of Japanese efficiency or other absurd references to neatness, origamo or what ever the fuck it is. These are the dumbest sheep on the fucking planet. The Soviets had Chernoble covered in 8 feet of cement within days and these anuses are still concerned with public relations.
And of course Chinese fishing boats hang off the cosst there now, pulling up lovely gamma ray fish which finds its way all over the planet in one form or the other. What an ongoing nightmare.
Fuck you.
Anuses!! Haha. +100
Great post! I have been keeping track. That great physicist. "Alexander Higgins".
A Massive dose of, " Arnie Gunderson " , works as well <>
hey, Y/C! here's the link:
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Thanks Slewie. Best Wishes.
So......is radiation transitory?
Can they just....suck it up?
Or, are we just dealing with a failure to communicate?
Feel free to add your latest, greatest quotes from asshole leaders everywhere, far and wide. And yes, the third is not a quote but might as well be - can't you just see ben and tim as the guards and warden in "Cool hand Luke" - William Banzai 7, I need your help!!!!
remember it? every time it rains here I'm doused in it. There are videos all over Youtube of radioactive rain in the USA.
So there is new fission but no temp rise? Sounds fishy to me.
Can understand the pressure, as this is not contained anymore. Maybe the thermocouple is just too far away from the reaction?
Almost unbelievable that it would reach criticality again after this long. Maybe there are some rods intact?
pods
Come to think about a dark cloud not having a silver lining, if these efficient industrious fuckers stopped and thought for a moment, they'd just put the mother of all fan blades above each of the meltdowns generating a bazillion quarumells of heat (my own new unit of financial measurement) and generate a veritable plethora of electricity.
But no, ever worrying about perceptions.
I been telling everybody I know that the Grest White Fleet shoula left them alone.
Jesus
The fact is it never went away - the MSM, and even the blogosphere, just lost interest. But this slow-motion catastrophe is going to roll on for decades. The Japanese have NO IDEA how to even begin cleaning up those three cores-on-the-floor in reactors 1, 2, 3 and leaning-tower-of-fuel-rods in reactor 4.
Meanwhile the leaks and re-criticalities will continue unabatted. Energy News (enenews.com) is one of the few sites still keeping track of this on-going clusterfu*k.
Something else that's back - the Israeli cabinet is OPENLY talking about attacking Iran:
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/netanyahu-trying-to-persuade-c...
But I guess with all the fun and games going on in Europe, no Western MSM outlet is interested.
"TEPCO: If nuclear chain reaction is happening, it is ‘small-scale’ "
Just a little nuclear fission, people. Nothing to see here, move along.
I'm fairly amazed TEPCO told anybody, given their track record(and, the government's). I should have thought they would wait until there's a mushroom cloud to deny, or dismiss as caused by UFOs.
That only means it will soon be too big a deal to keep quiet.
Yep.
This will make cleanup longer and costlier. Not good. Buy Thorium!
I made Thorium Bracers and added a gem slot.
+ 6 strength, 212 Armor.
cleanup? how about 30 years.........if they are lucky.........
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/oct/31/fukushima-nuclear-plant-30-y...
many , many people will die because of this........many....
I'd be bearish on Thorium. All these problems with poorly run nuclear reactors (Chernobyl and Fukushima of course) will only serve to drive governments and investors away from using LFTR or MSR reactors, regardless of how safe the land is from an earthquake, and how isolated from the general population the water supply is.
I thought I felt a little warmer in LA.
Plans are all tied into those ghost figures who will appear on national TV. Protecting the cartel interests will be dealt with at all costs. Let's look at a Bloomberg/CNBC exclusive.. LOL
World economy to become less volatile in future, says World Bank report (10 Jun 2011)
Dead isn't very volatile so good analysis.
i think the cores have gotten out of the enclosures now and are buring in the ground. tepco said, no problem,
http://enenews.com/university-researcher-topsoil-8000-pcikg-cesium-fukus...
also i would like the personally thank the japs for helping us here with our organic vegetable farming in california..........
i am going to have to make some changes about this. of course , like in japan, everyone here is just pretending there isn't a problem. but there is and always will be one.......forever perhaps...
I was in Japan last week. I wouldn't call it "pretending" there isn't a problem.
It's one thing to write comments on the internet, it's quite another to live with it.
What is happening at Fuku is very real. But 30 million people just can't leave the country tomorrow. For better or worse it seems they have accepted their fate.
Junker - do you like this tune?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEPTlhBmwRg&ob=av2e
Just close your eyes and long something with the rest of the lemmings. Everything will work out. LOL...
The officially endorsed solution is simply to watch a lot more television.
"unstable gamma decay"
Why do I smell Matthew Broderick and another Godzilla film coming on? Except this time Godzilla is a man trying to cope with his inability to save his wife's life with super human... well you get the idea. Only insert giant green lizard where Bruce Banner would be.
Level 3 emergency at San Onofre nuclear power plant, near San Diego
Alarms went off. News states it was ammonia leak and that public is safe.
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/san-onofre-san-diego-emergency-nuc...
clean, safe, and inexpensive
trust us
"Hardly" is putting it mildly.. that's the problem half life stuff including the news..half the shit is still around after a certain amount of time.
Fukushima will be a cloud over the Japanese for a long long time line.
Countless other plants with multiple reactors clustered together and spent fuel rods stored nearby are waiting to repeat, threepeat(tm), etc what governments failed to learn from Cherynobyl and TMI.
Still people fighting Yuka Mountain instead of rushing to complete it and moving the rods there now. Look at the cost of NOT moving the rods.
its the old NIMBY syndrome
Tyler's Wet Dream: (You have the right to be ribbed also!)
1. Every market move has an exogenouse event and he'll try and call each and every one as to why SPX or ES or EUR are having a rip fest or not.
P.S.: Tyler's accuracy is NOT 100%
2. TEPCO goes bankrupt and every Jap dies of radiation poisoning for their crimes against the Koreans and their sex slaves.
P.S.: The Jap Emperor donates all his Honmar Drivers to the Koreans in a gesture of apology!
3. Make a Male only Porno flick with Reggie, Testosteronepit and Bazoooka.
P.S.: Bazooka works out 5 days a week and golfs in the 90s!
4. Have Obama so shamed and defeated during one of the televised debates.....i.e. Audacity of Hope = Audacious Mendacity!!!!
5. Subscribes to Steve Hochberg's STU
6. A lifetime membershipe to EWI, Robert Prechter's Theorist.
7. G-Pap, Bernanke and Yahooooey Tiiimah and Merkozy reads his site everyday and actually gets offended.
PS: Bravo Herr Durden!
I can help out with the soundtrack.
"3. Make a Male only Porno flick with Reggie, Testosteronepit and Bazoooka.
P.S.: Bazooka works out 5 days a week and golfs in the 90s!"
This is bullshit because boric acid will capture excess neutrons but it's used up. Throwing more boric acid in does next to nothing.
You don't need all the nuclear material to blow to have a nuclear explosion. The first ultra huge soviet bombs could only explode about 75 percent of their fuel.
Somewhere someway somehow a couple pounds of this stuff is going to pop the fucking weasel and there's not a damn thing they can do other than throw water on it and make radioactive steam.
Man I just don't get it. Back during Chernobyl there was blanket media coverage embarrassing the Russians into doing something. Now with a tragedy much worse , it's buried. We are fuckec if we let them continue with this.
There are reasons that General Electric became involved in mass media.
I am bullish on bullshit.
vacuum toobs
Vacuum boobs. I don't think irradiated silicone does well. Shrinkage and all that.
this is bad.
futures are green on the FOMC meeting with HFT's bidding/selling on vapors. bullish? what with the Europe endgame coming, US economy broken, China hardlanding to an extreme crash (watching Yuan fixing/metal prices for more info), now Fuckushima coming back on line for the meltdown redux.
this is a doomsday trade for sure.
Doomsday? There's bullish news all around, Hopium goes mainstream:
The number of overdose deaths from powerful painkillers more than tripled over a decade, the government reported Tuesday - a trend that a U.S. health official called an epidemic, but one that can be stopped.
Prescription painkillers such as OxyContin, Vicodin and methadone led to the deaths of almost 15,000 people in 2008, including actor Heath Ledger. That's more than three times the 4,000 deaths from narcotics in 1999. I don't even feel the pain when I hit buy anymoreYes, but that is a mere fraction of the 200 billion people killed every year by marijuana.
Do they all die of "Reefer Madness" or just OD?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6696582420128930236#
I thought that was every week!
Don't forget the city government in Fukushima City deciding to 'wash' over 100,000 houses as evacuation-level radiation has been detected there and no one from Tokyo will talk about it or help them.
Oh and along with San Onofre (Level Two, I read) the Monticello plant in Minnesota is just getting back on line after extended (10 day) power failure. The beat goes on....
And elinin is going to make another alignment on the 11th of november. 11-11-2011.
I'm turning my computer off the 10th and leaving it off till either an earthquake hits or electronics stop frying whichever it's gong to do.