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Remember Fukushima? It's Back

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The problem with sweeping unresolved problems, especially of the unstable gamma decay variety, is that they tend to pop up at the most inopportune of times. Such as during global coordinated fiat ponzi bailouts. Kyodo reports that according to TEPCO a fresh fission reaction has restarted at Fukushima Daichi, and that boric acid is being injected to control a "possible nuclear reaction." Hardly the encouraging news that the world needs right about now.

From Kyodo:

TEPCO finds sign of fresh nuclear fission at Fukushima reactor 

 

Tokyo Electric Power Co. said Wednesday there may be signs of fresh nuclear fission in the No. 2 reactor at its quake-damaged Fukushima Daiichi power plant and that it has begun injecting boric acid to control a possible nuclear reaction.

 

There has been no change in the temperature, pressure and radiation levels at the reactor, whose nuclear fuel is believed to have melted when the cooling system failed following the March 11 earthquake and tsunami, the utility known as TEPCO said.

 

Gas samples taken Tuesday from inside the reactor's containment vessel may contain radioactive xenon, a gas typically generated by nuclear fission, the company said.

What is the conventional wisdom thinking on Fukushima anyway? Out of sight, out of mind? Yeah, we thought so.

 

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Tue, 11/01/2011 - 22:22 | 1835340 tekhneek
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Disclosure: I am long bunny rabbits -- with the regular set of ears and eyes.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 22:38 | 1835397 Hephasteus
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Wolverine is going to come cut you for being a mutant racist.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 22:45 | 1835424 bobert
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:)

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 22:24 | 1835346 UGrev
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Just remember.. it's always much, much worse than what they claim.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 22:26 | 1835349 Caviar Emptor
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That's what concerns me about San Onofre's level 3 emergency today. They're saying "public is safe" 

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 23:38 | 1835556 UGrev
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Well.. if you go with the "I don't trust them" position, then you should take your own precautions and feel good about what you do to protect yourself and your family.  This way you won't have to have any "concern", and you'll be left witih just an opinion that they are lying and things are probably worse than they are suggesting. 

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 22:28 | 1835354 luckylogger
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luv the comments. This is beyond bad,,,,,,,,, what could possibly happen to make it better?????

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 22:28 | 1835355 dexter_morgan
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Sounds like a Keynsian bull market booster.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 22:28 | 1835356 bill1102inf
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Should have built Thorium reactors.  100% safe.  

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 22:38 | 1835394 Ewe235
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Except for the (typically) plutonium seed of course.....

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 22:28 | 1835357 High Plains Drifter
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they had a rain delay in the world series.......if they had heavy rains there is a strong possibility that it had radiactivity in it. all depends where the front came from.....if it did , then that means all of the people that went to those  games, all of the players that played, etc etc, were exposed to dangerous decaying radioactive products from fukushima............i think many people in st lous especially will over time get sick as well as california etc........i asked a friend of mine who is a big time st louis cardinal fan if people there had found out that the rain was very dangerous would they still go to the games. he never answered hmmmm......yeh i think he answered the question. people just don't understand how dangerous and terrible this situation is..........

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 22:28 | 1835359 Ewe235
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Kinda depends on which kind of xenon...

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 22:29 | 1835360 bill1102inf
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Anyone who is worried IN america has mush for brains.  A 100 MEGATON nuke could have detonated in Japan, and you would never even know it.  Ever.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 22:42 | 1835413 Coronal Mass Ej...
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Let me correct that for you:

 

"Anyone who is NOT worried In america has much for brains"...there, much better.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 23:42 | 1835568 UGrev
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the word "Cumulative" come to mind. A nuke blast is one event within a short period of time.. a meltdown is an ongoing catastrophe where the effects are cumulative. 

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 04:31 | 1835939 Incubus
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What about 100 megatrons?

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 04:39 | 1835943 UP Forester
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100 Voltrons?

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 14:11 | 1837721 mick_richfield
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The amount of heavy metal at the Fukushima complex is larger than the heavy metal in the entire human nuclear arsenal.

If Fukushima is not somehow stopped it will pump an amount of radiation into the biosphere that is very much greater than a 100 megaton nuke.

 

 

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 22:29 | 1835365 UTICA CLUB XX PURE
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No biggie. Pass the sushi plz. Hey, when's Dad coming home from the power plant? He'll be right here honey. He had to pick up a few items at the fresh air market...

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 22:30 | 1835368 Buck Johnson
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Don't worry, the Fukushima issue will most definitely come back into the media spotlight.  Something this bad can't be swept under the rug and disappear.  They have 4 nuclear reactors and 2 to 3 have melted down through the core into the ground.  Northern Japan will become uninhabitable for centuries if not the whole of Japan.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 22:36 | 1835388 High Plains Drifter
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they are having trouble with more than 4 reactors.  it is not well known however. the real kicker is where are those rods from unit 3 , the mox unit?  where are they?  insane idiots moving the most dangerous uranium type rods to a place on a earthquake zone near the ocean. fools....complete foos. and guess what . what you see there, can happen here very easily.  there were problems at a unit over in i think virginia, when they had that earthquake on the east coast earlier this year.....they had to go on emergency backup power etc..............i believe there are cracks in the containment building as well.............we should get ouf of this business asap......

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 22:41 | 1835410 Coronal Mass Ej...
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I totally agree with you....but Pandora's box has been opened and it'll be hard to shut the nuke shit up now.  Don't forget that nuke plant that was "flooded" on the Mississippi...

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 00:55 | 1835724 knukles
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But there's always Hope :)

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 23:47 | 1835579 UGrev
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How about we exercise some higher level cognitive ability here and not put nuclear plants on fault lines? Gee? maybe?

We should get out of the business of allowing nuke plants to be built in the worst possible spots imaginable. That would make more sense. 

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 03:39 | 1835897 goldfish1
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Also problems with the Davis Besse reactor on Lake Erie in Oak Harbor OH.

Many cracks in containment building and elsewhere.

Great Lakes = drinking water for America.

 

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 04:43 | 1835944 UP Forester
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Good thing Superior is higher in elevation.  Bad thing is there's so much surface area....

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 22:31 | 1835369 High Plains Drifter
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since the cores are now out of control and are out of their enclosures etc, the only possbile answer to this is to detonate a nuke there and get it over with ..once and for all...........but the nips will never do this...........to their own island...........

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 22:38 | 1835398 Coronal Mass Ej...
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Yes, of course you are right...they are waiting for the Americans to "save" them and do it for them again...bombs away!

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 23:04 | 1835478 Maxter
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Detonating a nuke there is the worst possible thing to do.  Right now the situation is really bad, but detonating a nuke will only make it 1000x worst!

 

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 23:24 | 1835528 High Plains Drifter
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http://www.nuc.berkeley.edu/node/4066

 

its a option. the option has to be on the table. there are few choices at this juncture. the genie is out of the bottle and is out of control and the question then is just how long will these cores react?  how long? forever?  

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 01:53 | 1835807 Maxter
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I read your link and they don't mention to blow it up with a nuke.  They advise to quickly dig an underground cave under the plant with a nuke and then let the whole plant fall into the hole and bury it forever. 

But as you said yourself below, this can't work because the sea level is too close to the surface.  The cavity would simply fill in with sea water (if it can somehow not completly collapse from the sea pressure).  Now we can ask ourself if dropping the whole thing in a big sea water cavity is a good idea, but that's another question.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 14:14 | 1837746 mick_richfield
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So your solution to Fukushima is to vaporize all 3400 tons of heavy metal and pump that vapor into the stratosphere?  Do you think a nuke makes things disappear?  Sends them into the fifth dimension?

 

 

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 23:28 | 1835535 steelrules
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Agreed,

The answer has been staring them in the face at Chernobyl, Bury the damned thing in concrete. It took Russia only a few months with 1/2 million workers working in short shifts to cover it up.

I guess this is Tepco's greed showing they still think they can save these reactors.

Have a look at Chernobyl 25 years later.  http://pmgtg.com/a-tour-of-chernobyl-as-it-exists-today/

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 23:52 | 1835588 High Plains Drifter
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that won't work at fukushima. if it would they would already be working on it.  the land is different and also the water table etc..........now they are going to have to build a new building over the reactor at chernobyl, since the old one is cracked and decaying....

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j9tFAAohjo 

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Exh4n88WoO4

 

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/video/video-chernobyl-still-hotspot-25-years-later/article1997532/

 

 

 

 

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 22:32 | 1835374 luckylogger
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Besides I just tooted and it really stunk  ( disclaimer i live in the northwest so I would assume that it was a nuclear infused fart.........

If nothing else happens my wife says this alone will end the human occupation of the world.

Another thing to blame on fukishima !!!!!!!!

lol

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 22:34 | 1835380 bankruptcylawyer
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it is the groupthink culture of the japanese that has  allowed this fukushima to fester that is the ultimate danger to this nation, not fukushima itself. 

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 22:37 | 1835391 Coronal Mass Ej...
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I would have to respectfully disagree.  While the Japanese have had their head in the sand over this nuclear issue (just as Americans have their heads in the sand over the debt issue), it is pure, unadultered corporate GREED that has kept this best called Fukushima smoking for over a half year.  Afterall, if the extent of the problems were really known how could the nuclear industry grow and perpetuate?!

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 23:13 | 1835496 Alea Iactaest
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Bullish for EXC

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 22:38 | 1835392 High Plains Drifter
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i thought amerians were sheep, but these people take the cake..........they are a nation of stepford wives..........

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 22:40 | 1835404 Yen Cross
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  HPD , I should take more time to comment. I appreciate your posts.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 22:48 | 1835428 High Plains Drifter
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4QXYyqdP2o

 

check it out yen. earlier this year this expat, (who speaks very good japanese i might add)  was trying to tell people about high radiation readings on the train and they could care less........

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 22:35 | 1835383 Coronal Mass Ej...
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With the NWO itching to get in and take control I'm surprised we haven't had dozens more Extinction Level Events (or little ones) like dozens more nuke plants blowing...or more massive oil leads...or a nuclear "accident"...or...or...well, you get the picture.  The NWO folks can't manage 7 billion humanoid slaves, but 1 billion...well, maybe a bit more manageable...

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 22:39 | 1835401 Yen Cross
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 I like,  " LNG " , let the Earth Burp!

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 22:50 | 1835417 seek
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It never went away. I had my third-highest readings ever on my recording geiger on 10/11/2011, and if you follow the EPA radnet charts, you can see a blob of radioactive air worked its way from the southwest through the northeast that week, sequentially raising readings in Phoenix, St. Louis, and on up through Mass.

Second highest readings ever? That would be yesterday. First highest was a big bubble on 5/8.

I guess I can look to another event on the charts in a week.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 22:45 | 1835425 ziggy59
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Fukushima never left.. It was swept under the European rug, like all important news...

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 22:50 | 1835435 Caviar Emptor
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Don't burst my bubble! We've been living in a fairytale world of enchantment since 09 and I want it to go on forever! 

Bottom line: Negative news, NO. Enchanting news, YES. 

 

So here's my re-synthesis of the events: 

Fukushima celebrating resilience of it's remaining reactors. Considering opening high-end "nuclear theme park" to international tourism, complete with exclusive shopping. 

 

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 22:51 | 1835438 Sizzurp
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One of the things I never heard about was which banks hold the mortgage paper on all that now uninhabitable land?  I have to imagine it wouldn't be bullish for realestate prices in a 30 mile radius around that reactor.  If that is the case, who is taking the hit?

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 22:51 | 1835439 Jeremiahperez
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Anyone up for costa rica? heard its some of the cheapest cost of living and best healthcare. Just really sucks they are... wait for it... Pegged to the Dollar also... can't avoid that stinking collapse... dun dun dun duhn...Shit!

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 22:53 | 1835443 Mr. Blind Justice
Tue, 11/01/2011 - 22:59 | 1835463 Zgangsta
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This news came just hours after they resumed operations at a nuclear plant in southern Japan, the first restart since the disaster.  They probably waited until after a reactor restarted to avoid delaying the restart.

Yes, that is exactly the type of stupid, can't-see-the-forest-for-the-trees way of thinking that passes for leadership in Japan...

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 23:17 | 1835494 Atomizer
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Nixon

NSSM 200 - 1974 

Obama Care

Eugenics 

Funny spoof about CDC (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention)

 

Just released today.. A CDC amber bulletin alert..

Prescription painkiller overdoses at epidemic levels kill more Americans than heroin and cocaine combined

http://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2011/p1101_flu_pain_killer_overdose.html  LMFAO

 

Regarding Japan, FF did a nice overview of Japan. Basically, they a going to have an accelerated death rate to offset a new 7th billion baby born.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 23:15 | 1835500 connda
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"Remember Fukushima? It's Back"

Ahhhh!  Refresh my memory...when did it leave???

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 23:20 | 1835515 rustymason
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Are the Japanese and Mayan calendars related?

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 23:40 | 1835560 Atomizer
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rusty is not a mason. This is not about Japanese and Mayan calendars. As technology progress, governments lose control of propaganda. When rusty questions authority, new forms of government unveil, i.e. NSA, DHS,TSA. The problem all surrounds on how long these services can be afforded. When you draw all the blood from a turnip, will you get played? Just ask the EU this very question on their computer modeled growth statistics.. Stop being hoodwinked.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 23:41 | 1835565 Parth
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It could possibly be an electric razor or toothbrush got charged and going bzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Made in Japan so it obviosly will work forever.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 23:47 | 1835578 Blooter
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What a fucking outrage. What a joke. It took 800,000 people to clean Chernobyl up and these idiots are putting what, 1000 people on the case? Irresponsible. Reprehensible. 

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 23:48 | 1835581 matrix2012
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GlobalPost has some news on it too:

Japan: Fukushima radiation 'two times higher' than estimates (10/28/2011)

 

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/asia-pacific/japan/11102...

Based on data from radiation monitoring stations across Japan, Europe and North America, they believe only around 20 percent of the total cesium emissions fell over Japanese territory. The rest was carried over the Pacific Ocean, with around 2 percent landing in other countries.

 

The possible health risks of the radiation are unclear. Cesium-137 is linked to cancer and can remain in the environment for 30 years.

 

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 00:02 | 1835620 jse111
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TY for the input. Cesium 137 has a half-life of 30 years. Thus, it may take as long as 300 years for a contaminated area to regain habitability.

"[Renowned radiation biologist Edmund Lengfelder states:]
There is a rule of thumb:
For a nuclide such as cesium-137, the half-life of 30 years. It takes ten half-lives, so you can populate an area again, making a total of 300 years."

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/04/12/966021/-Radioactivity,-Cesium-137,-Options-

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 23:50 | 1835583 jse111
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Arnie speaks:

http://www.fairewinds.com/

BTW, stating that the clean-up may take 30-years translated means that clean-up is virtually impossible without a quantitative leap in deactivation technology. For those with a more aggressive approach, the potential of at least the northern hemisphere including the greater Tokyo area of what was formerly known as Japan becoming uninhabitable cannot be assuredly discounted.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 00:06 | 1835621 Conax
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If they don't cap this mess and pronto, all of Japan will become uninhabitable. It's in the aquifer already. To add fun and melodrama, we have a DeathStar-like object approaching in a week. Hopefully it's just a rock flying by. Nearly spherical, 400 meters in dia., and black as my ex-wife's heart.

It's a rockin year.

http://www.examiner.com/dc-in-washington-dc/event-asteroid-2005-yu55-enc...

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 00:09 | 1835635 matrix2012
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Pakalert even has some colorful rainbow graphical illustrations

“High concentrations” of radiation hit US and Canada — Plume was rich in Cesium-137 and “close to the surface” from Vancouver southward — See also Hawaii, Florida (MAPS)

http://www.pakalertpress.com/2011/11/01/entire-west-coast-hit-hard-by-fu...

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 00:18 | 1835652 Yen Cross
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 matrix , I have a place to be. Build Tools, not fear.   Thanks Yen.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 00:21 | 1835658 medicalstudent
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rocky mountains stopped much. west of there no good.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 05:46 | 1835981 Treason Season
Wed, 11/02/2011 - 00:39 | 1835698 Drunken Monkey
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Bullish Lead & Spam (HRL).

What do you have to do to get it into peoples heads that nuclear power is a bad idea? Drop a bomb on them or something...

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 01:58 | 1835811 DarthVaderMentor
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Not a good sign of things to come.

We all know that the nuclear industry has pulled out all the stops to hide the truth and attack anyone who brings out any sliver of truth from Fukushima. Denninger is one of the industry's hatchetmen.

Ken Donglicker, in his Marketticker forum, banned a nuclear engineer WHO ACTUALLY HAD WORKED AT FUKUSHIMA because he said there were signs of re-criticality and who suggested unequivocally that contamination of China, the west coast and Hawaii was possible.

Donglicker and his paid henchmen are pushing the Thorium reactor as an alternative to conventional nuclear power plants, without a throrough analysis.

The worst scenario is unfolding folks, and the Japanese, the IAEA and the US NRC are hiding it.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 02:00 | 1835814 Maxter
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"There has been no change in the temperature, pressure and radiation levels at the reactor, whose nuclear fuel is believed to have melted"

This got me thinking.  If the fuel melted through the floor,  Is it possible that any nuclear reaction taking place underground might no longer affect the pressure inside the reactor as it is no longer there?

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 02:42 | 1835856 The Heart
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Breaking!

Photos show possible blow out that happened, or in the process of happening.

http://enformable.com/2011/11/breaking-fukushima-daiichi-did-unit-2-just-blow-a-hole-in-the-side-photos/

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 05:24 | 1835970 Element
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Remember Fukushima? It's Back

 

It never went away, it's here to stay, it's going nowhere ... any year soon.

The MSM  has to stop this silly routine of pretending really bad long-term material stuff just goes away.

Are we not Adult?

The MSM keeps wanting to permanently treat us like a Peek-a-Boo style of surprise has just occurred ... and has the gall to call this silly syndrome/routine "The NEWS", and tries to 'sell it' to us.

They want to maintain the "I almost but not quite got this" - type BS.

Fukushima is dreadfully and appallingly out-of-control.

It can not be bought "under-control".

All that can be done is to manage the splatter.

There may be several new developments this month, or next year, or none noticeable or reported at all, but either way, Fukushima is going to get gradually and relentlessly worse, irrespective of the more noticeable transients that make it into the MSM BS-apparatus.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 06:09 | 1835989 Tipster
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Fukushima is not back... it never went away.

http://theinternationalperspective.wordpress.com/2011/06/06/

http://theinternationalperspective.wordpress.com/2011/06/07/

"Fukushima did not happen. Fukusima IS HAPPENING… still."

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 07:34 | 1836060 Doc Strangelove
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To find Xe133 and Xe135 is perfectly normal and should be expected. Both isotopes are byproducts of nuclear fission (Xe133 has a halflife of five days and Xe135 a halflife of nine hours). The core vessel at Daichi is done which means that corium (molten reactor core inventory) is lying somewhre under the pressure vessel. There must be some nuclear fission going on. Anything else would be very unusual. If this will go on for months or some years depends upon the amount of bor and lead and other stuff the Japs insert to stop the fission. In Harrisburg they needed Months to stop that. Only the soviets where faster, but the situation was different and they paid a price ...

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 10:43 | 1836643 metastar
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Boric Acid is also good at keeping roaches away.

Notice how the elite stay far from the Fukushima area.

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