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Research In Collapse
(We used RIMBERRRRR as the title the last several times... trying to keep it fresh here people)
It's not the beginning of the end. That was a few quarters ago. So, the middle of the end for RIM? Or the end of the end?
Via Bloomberg:
- RESEARCH IN MOTION 3Q ADJ. EPS $1.27
- RESEARCH IN MOTION 3Q REV. $5.17B, EST. $5.22B
- RESEARCH IN MOTION SEES 4Q ADJ EPS 80C-95C, EST.$1.08
- RIMM SEES 4Q BLACKBERRY SHIPMENTS 11M-12M UNITS, EST. 12.8M
- RIMM SEES 4Q REVENUE OF $4600-4800bn, EST. $4854.30
- RESEARCH IN MOTION 3Q GROSS MARGIN 36.7%, EST. 37.1%
- RESEARCH IN MOTION SEES 4Q GROSS MARGIN 38%
- RIMM SHIPPED 150,000 BLACKBERRY PLAYBOOK TABLETS IN 3Q - that would be the since cancelled Playbook yes?
Also, if you though churn was reserved for GM and for rehypothecation, you were wrong:
- RIMM 3Q SUBSCRIBERS UP 35% YEAR-OVER-YEAR TO ALMOST 75M
And so the once uber-popular Momo stocks dropping like flies.
Which begs the question: have all the StockTwits fly by night momentum chasing "traders" learned how to add and subtract yet, or are the planning on becoming farmers.
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Ill trade anyone straight up 1 for 1 my Nortel stock for your RIM???
Takers?
See Last Solar action yesterday ?
I didn't have time to check. I was too busy buying Greek bonds and Greek bank stocks. My financial advisor, some guy named Leo Komalakamakis, or something like that, told me that we would be able to retire in a matter of months if I follow his advice. He seems like a sharp guy. I look forward to my retirement.
I meant First Solar..
RETARDS IN MOTION!
Morgan: Great Headwinds for RIMM http://hedge.ly/c7ndos
I love Nortel stock. I worked with a dipshit that watched $250,000 worth of Nortel stock options fall to $0. Every time I think of that story I smile. The guy was a real dumbass that fits right in with the majority of Americans in the 21st century.
thats nothing...i watched $4mil go to zip.....
As long as we talking dipsticks...
RIMM is the new PALM: one-off products, management teams drunk on kool-aid.
Maybe Meg will buy them and add to HPQ's dinosaur wing.
They could relaunch it all under Compaq
The Compaq DingleBerry
As if the eurotards or third world trash are any smarter. Count yourself among the stupid masses unless you're one of the ruling elites.
+ Nokia
Research in deMotion..........
Collapse in Motion
I was very surprised at the initial after-hours ramp. It's like someone got the minus signs backwards.
We used to have all Motorola routers at work. Within a couple years we will think of Blackberry the same way we do those old Motorola routers. Every time we mention them the conversation will start with, "remember when?".
Not disagreeing, as its just progress marching on once again- but I am feeling a little wistful, as I like my Blackberry, and am not interested in any of the current iCrap. But it happens.
Try any of the droid phones. I had a crapberry for years and when I upgraded it was like going from the dark ages to the enlightenment.
Remember 3Com hubs?
Remember USRobotics Courier modems? (I got a sysop discount!)
Bay Networks bitches! Dropin some LANtastic bombs on IPX/SPX over token ring, goin old school.
lmfao
Corrapse*
Fat fingers...
Short RIMM & NFLX = Swimming in Fiat
Both are already down 80 percent from their 52-week highs. Give me the name of the next stock that is destined to go down 80 percent, before it goes down. Do that and I will send you a bottle of Johnny Walker Blue, attached to a hooker's neck.
CMG (chipotle)
I'll give you an address after they stop trading at 90x earnings.
EDIT -- My bad: 49x earnings (it was 90 last time I checked like 2 weeks ago)
...49x though? I'm shorting this bitch and besides their food blows. Even if I lose every penny I'll still be happy because their food sucks and I know I made the right decision to short it. It tastes like dog food. If I wanted rice in a tortilla I'd move to Mexico... or go to taco bell and get it for 49x less fiat than they charge. Dog food == dog food. The only difference is price.
Much appreciated. I'm in. PNRA as well. 2012 shall be good!
As opposed to....KING'S FOOD AT BURGER KING????????
But now they wrap all their burgers real fancy like
That's a hell of a promising call, actually. Nice one.
But... but... they cook sustainably! (whatever that means)
I don't know about the two in the shopping areas locally, but the one next to campus has a line out of the door every day at lunch.
Of course, these are the kids I refer to as the 'stupids.' Myself, I just never saw the allure of spending $7 for a bunch of beans and rice.
It's a fad and it doesn't have golden arches. They can't reinvent themselves and offer anything other than the Mexican shit fare of beans, tacos, cheap beef or chicken. Well, maybe they can stuff it in a blender and start offering rice and bean shakes or Mexican specialty coffees.
Who cares? Their P/E is 49 and they operate restaurants. P/E of MCD is 19 and MCD is able to reinvent themselves according to whatever the taste du jour is.
Perhaps not everyone can afford lobster and filet mignon for lunch like you two turdbirds
I'd be inclined to wager a bet that walkure dines on .99 euros at the falafel stand at the entrance of the Kurfürstenstraße U-bahn station. When he's lucky and has been able to attract a john who is not a deadbeat during his workday, he dines at the 1.49 euro sausage stand so he can relive the highligths of his workday.
I have some OTM puts on this one. i just hope it goes down like Netflix. I knew I shoulda shorted netflix when Hastings was on the cover of Fortune back in July. Chipotle I believ was on the cover about a month ago so....
+1 for this thesis.
...In addition to all you have outlined, CMG is a Cramer favorite. Short it with both hands.
AMZN is 90x earnings...just saying.
CMG is only down to 49x earnings in fantasty unicorns-munching-on-inexpensive-and-healthy-GMO-rice land.
In the real world, it's still a bloated turd of a burrito floating on the byproduct of sell-side researrch Montezuma's Revenge. It's McDonald's pig of a sister wearing lots of slutty lipstick.
Here's a generally reliable rule of thumb, as distasteful and demeaning as the process may be: Any stock that's both been on Goldman's convict buy list and has had its own dedicated segment on James Jimmy Jam Cramer's Winners Of The New World-esque soundboard of bullshit is destined to lose 95%+ of its value given enough time, peak to trough.
I know what you mean. I have the same opinion. I am sure that we will see improvements in the near future! yacht charter lefkas
@W_V_I
That will be GRPN. Do you ship UPS Red or limo?
They are in trouble. But there was troubling data today and yesterday as well. Industrial production DOWN and Mortgage purchase applications DOWN.Don't buy the Austan Goolsbee "the economy is back!" garbage. Getting better, but there are still problems.
http://confoundedinterest.wordpress.com
I'm interested to see how low those home purchase figures are revised down next week.
Salesforce has been on its steady move down as traders slowly head for the exits on that Momo, expect a 40% correction at some point soon when someone yells fire
Google says their P/E is 5,110.63
...Is that... true?
Oh my god we're all going to be rich.
GOOG p/e is 21. GOOG has cash coming out every orface of their collective employee bodies. GOOG could be a bank and have better ratings than most of the dilapitated retarded cousins.
No no no, I mean Google Finance says that CRM (salesforce) has a P/E of over 5K.
That has to be the biggest momo stock ever if that's true.
Sorry, Tek. CRM is essentially an operating subsidiary of Fidelity Management and Research. As such, the stock will decline when -- and only when -- Fidelity allows it to ( and even then, Fido will be recycling new 401k funds back into the[ir] name ).
I definitely don't pretend to know everything so thanks for pointing that out.
Yahoo says: P/E (ttm): 7,114.00
Have you seen the bubble job on the stock since 2008?
WTF? That and Apple are the only things keeping the nasdaq up.
2012 w/o QE will bleed the equity market down. Nothing else keeping it up. Hopium call options have expired.
If you traded options, and jumped on this shit you would be a happy fuck.
I half putted this shitbag and am a half happy fuck.
I guess if your not a bankster, all bets are off.
Reply to myself, wtf. RBS handles market support or pumping and dumping or whatever. Ruffcut, would it be better when the margin stanleys, merrill lynchies, JPmunchers, and goldie fuck balls are handling this?
R/C says, maybe so, but they have hedge against the market makers of the named above with their secret motto: "fuck the client".
I knew RIM was in trouble when I went to San Pedro Sula, Honduras recently and was surprised that everyone had a Blackberry. I asked why, and the universal response was that they were really "cheap" to own...
Earlier today I recommended that my clients buy RIM based on a great book value and all the patents value which has been written down. I bought a Playbook and it rocks. I believe the stock is going to 30 next year.
You need more clients to push RIM 100%
You know what ISN'T collapsing?
The Federal Reserve's balance sheet and reserve bank credit.
Total Assets - Weekly Change $81.8 B Reserve Bank credit - Weekly Change $69.2 Bhttp://fidweek.econoday.com/byshoweventfull.asp?fid=446852&cust=mam&year=2011&lid=0#top
And to a lesser extent, the M2 money supply.
M2 Weekly Change $19.1 Bhttp://fidweek.econoday.com/byshoweventfull.asp?fid=446796&cust=mam&year=2011&lid=0#top
Good luck to Chairsatan on finding a buyer for the Fed's assets. Then again, maybe Chairsatan has no intention of the Fed liquidating its assets.
Selling assets is no way to end up owning the whole world. Better to sell worthless liabilities in exchange for it.
John Law: The U.S. taxpayers already own "the Federal Reserve's/The Bernank's Balance Sheet."
It's like HIV, herpes, or any other variety of gifts that keep on giving, all year long, for life.
Merry Christmas from The Bernank-Merry Fractional Bankster RICO Act Gang, Inc.
What does that have to do with RIMM?
I don't know.
Perhaps Chairman Ben is using some newly-printed Bennies to buy RIMM stock?
"The surge in the latest week was led by a $52.0 billion increase in central bank liquidity swaps."
Oh well that explains everything
AAPL is next. Overloaded momo turd bird.
I do work for a web analytics company and i-phone traffic has been dropping all year.
I am pretty sure aaple had it wrong with saggy sales last quarter being because people were waiting for i-phone 4. They weren't waiting....they were buying androids. They discovered that phones and tablets can play flash, they want 4g, they want better phone cases and cameras. They like free apps. They like devices that work great without having to buy shitloads of expensive apps
I think aapl is $275 or less by end of January 2012.....and not coming back
What do say about AMZN?
Phones running Android are an abomination. Have you seen the interface lag on those pieces of shit? There's a reason why there's a waiting list for the 4s with all the carriers and you can walk in to any carrier and pickup a cheap phone running Android.
I have no doubt Android traffic will overtake iOS traffic as Android phones are for poors that can't be bothered to pay $.99 for an app.
I know a guy who just got a free 4s last month with his contract, so I'm not so sure about the waiting list part. It was in North Dakota though, so maybe there's less demand.
LOL nice bullshitting. either you or him
but they'll make it up on volume, right? right?...(chirp, chirp).
some android phones leave a bit to be desired. I will not dispute that.
There are several that kill the shit out of any aapl crap if you want a nice device that actually works with the entire internet and office documents.
I know a lot of i-tards think its fun to be cool and own aapl crap, but the coolness is gone and they are behind the times.
You cannot stay relevant in technology being as slow as aapl has been lately reacting to how much has changed even in the last six months.
i-phone 5 will look like an atari 2600 compared to other phones that are already on the market by the time it finally comes out if the 4s is any indication of how far behind they are. I was astonished when that thing came out.
good luck if you hold the stock.
There is something to say for a closed system. Good luck with your patch a day downloads.
i'm sure people are using their phones to look at spreadsheets and read reports. you really are clueless
Hyperbole. They are only circling the rim.
I posted this on Seeking Alpha on December 2nd:
RIMM is TOAST.
The stock is worth $5, even with patents.
They are a buyout target, if not a revolt by shareholders.
They charge a fee for connection to Microsoft Exchange email where others are free.
They are on a steep downhill loss of market share to iPhones and Droid and people using net books and pads (anything other than playbook) to do email.
Get out NOW or wait for a pop on a takeover bid.
never count a tech co out long term. Look at apple and IBM
RIMM are not IBM or Apple. Their recent network outage says they are avoiding spending on infrastucture which is their core business. Not a good sign.
Two years ago, as the iPhone was starting to take market share, Blackberry users and Network Admins were waiting for over six months for a software update from RIMM to fix bugs communicating with our Exchange server securely.
Users were saying "I'm paying a monthly subscription fee to RIMM for a buggy connection when my friends with an iPhone are doing it for free and with no problems?".
OOOPS.
That was TWO YEARS AGO.
And now, Android and iPhone are eating RIMMS lunch because NOTHING HAS CHANGED.
Amen
Long term, you say?
I'll just leave this here...
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/21_tech_companies_changed_worl...
Spitzer opens his Full Retard Pie Hole yet again. For every 1 Apple there are 100 Winners of the New World (if not more), so happy gambling:
The Winners of the New WorldWhere is Robochump to crow about the strong tape?
Robochump, wherefore art thou?
Robo can only go long. His margin credit is shit and can't short. THat's what his mom said, yelling to him in the basement.
Confuscious Say: Blackberry RIMMjob taste like poop
Isnt Confuscious the guy that said, "if it smells like fish, Make it a dish, If it smells like cologne, Leave it alone?
RIMM has been the behind the curve for a while, they shot themselves in the foot with the Playbook thing. It is a tale of a management incompetence wrapped in ego-mania. However this stock has a potential to double WHEN it reaches $4 by the end of Q1.
Get a tetanus shot before you rimm....
P/E is very good. They are still making money. If they would share some of that coin by paying a dividend then pow right to 35-40 over night. They are sitting on a war chest.
Tyler just wondering if u have ever done an interview or maybe plan on doing one in the future??
I'm interviewing Tyler when I beam him up to the Enterprise. Just a small glitch, however. Scotty keeps complaining of multiple targets when he tries to establish transporter lock.
Tyler did an interview with Max Keiser.
~//~
On the Edge with Max Keiser - 14 August 2009 - (1/3) - YouTube
On the Edge with Max Keiser - 14 August 2009 - (2/3) - YouTube
On the Edge with Max Keiser - 14 August 2009 - (3/3) - YouTube
RIMM is fine. They may be losing users in countries that have money but they're gaining customers in third world shit holes because they're "cheap to own". They'll make it up on volume.
Put your money where your cunt mouth is. Invest in this shitdog and make it up on volume.
ruffcut wins.
The shitholes are full of debt from countries with "money"
Zynga.
They should become farmers. The working environment is better and they get all the food they can eat.
http://georgesblogforum.wordpress.com/2011/11/02/the-daily-climb-2/
let's go ahead and pull Building 7, now, shall we?
It's the prudent thing to do.
They are still making money - maybe $4/share over a year, but still with a PE of 10, that's a $40 stock... Love to see an announcement to pay out a dividend.
Roll up the RIM to win!
Thunder RIMbling
Was this posted before or after the 6% drop in afterhours trading for RIMM....?
Wait, does it even matter?
Don't know why they bothered. Apple won the tablet war before it even began.
Rumours a few months ago though, that Microsoft were circling around RIM, like a vulture looking for carrion to feed off.
Makes sense for them, knocking off one of their corporate smartphone competitors.
Also, forgot about their little cock up with the Core Switch replacement in Europe.
Would have driven loads of customers Apple or Galaxy's way, just for the imbuggerance factor.
RIC does not have the same pizazz as RIMBERRRRRRRRRRR
It's a matter of what is trending...RIM is NOT trending or should I say trending down. I did however get a new 9900 and the thing freakn' rocks. It's a huge improvement over their OS6.
I thought about listening to the conf call. But, I get distracted easily, with voices in my ear saying: "rim sucks, rim sucks. play pad sucks, services suck, outlook sucks, buy us please??"
I was a hardcore Nokia customer for years. In fact, my unlocked Nokia 6600 purchased in UK back in 2003 still works and has been put back into service for my GF use. I jumped ship and bought a torch 9800 late last year. I unlocked this phone and maintained tmobile even though during 5 a second start up, AT&T flash screen appears.
Never one problem with this phone other than tricking the best buy sales rep that I had an existing AT&T account to buy the phone flat out. As soon as he handed me the receipt and bagged phone.. I told him to fuck himself.
Later on, i preordered the PlayBook 64GB. I cannot complain about RIM. QNX upgrades have been loaded on this PB. My next phone will be QNX, skipping 7.0 OS.
As I'm typing on my PB to post this, Kevin at crackberry is a good site to follow. Not a BB fanboy to try selling you BS. However, using 48% of the full capabilities of PB features.
http://crackberry.com/
RIMMs relevance in the market passed months ago. Funny how folks talk about all these high flying stocks without looking at fundamentals and overlying market factors.
Roll your lossed into PCLN calls.. or long the stock :)
http://www.optionmillionaires.com/2011/jim-cramer-upgrades-pcln-pricelin...
http://us.blackberry.com/apps-software/desktop/desktop_mac.jsp
Mac Desktop Software BlackBerry Playbook
Video: Dingleberry Team Shows How To Get Android Market, Native Email & Google Apps On BlackBerry PlayBook
Generally when iMoron market cap is threatened, bad news will prevail on the the TeeVee. BTW, Rooting is still going thru security issues. The BB development team is on the case.
QNX bitches
"uber-pop momo stock drop"
that's art.
Karl Denninger, at market ticker had a great trade on this one. Also known as long RIMM and short AAPl trade.
http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=188356
RIMM bites (chews through restraints)
top that!
one less cookie in fig newton single roll package, screw Rimm this is f#%$#$%king serious!
So what are the business people using instead of a BlackBerry?? I don't see an alternative on the horizon. (iPhones are toys for girls, Androids are toys for geeks.)
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