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The Research In Downward Stock Motion Continues As RIMM Misses Everything
For any RIMM shareholders expecting a miraculous deus ex, somewhat like Europe's broker beggars who still are choosers, to come out of left field in today's earnings reports, there was nothing but epic disappointment.
- Revenues came in at $2.81 billion on expectations of $3.1 billion, and down from $4.91 billion a year prior
- EPS were $(0.37) on expectations of just a 7 cent miss.
- The outlook is just as horrible, with RIMM announcing it expects a Q2 operating loss
- It also see lower shipment volumes, and delayed the launch of Blackberry 10 to Q1 2013
- Finally, the firm will cut 5,000 jobs
If the stock isn't moving much it is because it has been halted since pre announcement. It will reopen at 4:40pm, probably between 10 and 20% lower.
From the Outlook section in the press release:
The Company expects the next several quarters to continue to be very challenging for its business based on the increasing competitive environment, lower handset volumes, potential financial and other impacts from the delay of BlackBerry 10, pressure to reduce RIM's monthly infrastructure access fees, and the Company's plans to continue to aggressively drive sales of BlackBerry 7 handheld devices. The Company expects to report an operating loss in the second quarter of fiscal 2013, as RIM continues to invest in marketing programs and continues to work through the transition to BlackBerry 10, as well as the Company's fixed costs being allocated over a lower volume of shipments. This outlook excludes the impact of charges related to the CORE Program.
We do use the term outlook loosely: at this point we are not sure whose odds of being a viable going concern in 2013 are higher: Greece or the once proud Canadian corporate fixture.
We will post an after hours chart as soon as the stock is unhalted.
RIMM just opened at $7.5 from its $9 after-hours close before the halt - a mere 17% drop.
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Any RIMM job openings left?
LOLOLOLOL
-typed from my BB Torch
The after-hours price doesn't matter because it's merely a digital representation of actual physical shares. In 2003, I bought RIMM at $120 and TOOK DELIVERY OF THE SHARES!
Bitches!
Am I down? Nope! Have I lost money? Nope! Haven't sold! Got the same number of equity shares in my safe today as I did last night. No big deal.
MF
Gold never goes to zero.
RIMM will, for sure. They just released the upscaled $1250 phone for Porsche owners. lol. It doesn't surprise me, because the CEO was more interested in buying an NHL hockey team caring about customer needs.
Another sad day for the maple leaves dominion.
Are you serious, or is this a snipe at physical vs paper gold?
Fuck yes, I'm serious. Scottrade is for mainstream sheeple. My shares are in my safe buried somewhere in North America, and that's all I'm sayin'. Might have had a BOATING ACCIDENT. CAN'T REMEMBER!!
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Couple things I never joke about, boy.... guns, god, metal and paper.
MF
ruh roh, raggy
Maxipad is SUPER-SERIAL
I miss your old byline: "Max Fischer, Feces Mundi".
Or was that: "Max Fischer, Uncivil Coatimundi"?
lol dogshit is now spelled rimm
Max said:
What did it take to get Cede & Co. to send you the actual shares? Did they make you go through a lot of red tape?
Alright Max, I have to admit that was pretty funny. You're still a douche, but at least that one made me chuckle a little.
I hear they are looking for a 'turnaround specialist'
I just got a look at their turnaround plan ... I can't give away too much information, but I can leak this: buy a Blackberry, get a Superman towels. Remember, you heard it here first. Rip you face off rally should commence tomorrow.
What, they finally ran out of Spiderman towels?
The market must be on drugs if it's ripping people's faces off. Remember, only dopes smoke dope.
Janitors, to make empty some office spaces after the next round of layoffs.
EDIT: lol, I guess that time has already come.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18631702
Race to the bottom - RIMM, NOK or the EUR ?
And the original prototype of using child-slave labor in third world nations to produce 'products' that people in developed nations would kill and die for, Nike, isn't doing so hot, either.
Hmmm. Can Air Jordans be purchased on yo EBT?
4/25/12 Short NKE
Their business model of shipping $150 shoes half-way around the world to people making $12/hr has topped.
Nike Hyperdunk 2010
Bernanke blushes.
combat boots look better
ThEy AiNt GotZ nuThiNg on the Addidas shackle shoes http://multimedia.heraldinteractive.com/images/20120619/c0962a_adidas61912.jpg
the value of those things must have skyrocketed if anyone could get ahold of them. FEMA is interested in them for their "basketball camps" but the shackles run from one shoe to the other to the ankle and are made out of steel chains
If my 13 year old nephew's closet is any indication, NIKE should be doing just fine ...
just die already
Anybody still in RIMM deserves to get burned. Andrea Bocelli could have seen this coming from a mile away ...
Blackberry colored balls
Give the dying man some respect.
Goddam Yanks purposely torpedoed RIMM with naked shorting, false rumours and the JPMprgue manipulation crap. Nothing compares to the Crackberry in the space and after RIMM declares bankruptcy, there will be a great many investment bankers in rehab without those crackee's causing them to run into walls while walking and reading...
So the only phone that actually is secure is going to go by the wayside?
Sweet.
Beta vs. VHS all over again. Perhaps RIMM should embrace Teh Pr0n?
There was Nokia.
Then there was RIMM/BB.
They all went down to shit.
Now who would you guess is next?
Dont forget palm. HP wwas stupid enough to buy them out. Dont think anyone will make the same mistake with blackberry.
Samsung would be my guess.
Damn sight better BB predictive texting than IPhone which is a nightmare.
Somehow managed to add to cash with all those losses ... mostly through liquidation of working capital, it appears. In any case, working capital is now $3.4b and market cap is $3.8b at current levels. 78m subscribers, if they could just control spending on next gen ... don't see why a richer company with lots of cash and/or highly valued shares wouldn't take a run at this, either to get the subscribers on their platform or even just shut down spending and monetize.
I like piling on as much as the next guy but this one's pretty beaten up. Totally dusted competitively, it's true, but the B/S is worth something close to what it's trading at now.
Us German loving Obam hating Canadians are pulling our hair out today. I lost at least 3 times already today.
i itried to ignore this shit, but my new blackberry sent the post anyhow, BiCheZ!
If I didn't buy it at 14 then I'm not going to buy it at 7.
RIMM = clueless.
May as well buy a used typewriter at a garage sale with that $7.
FORD Down big too...business in Europe bad, very bad....very ,very bad
i was a hard core bb lover, then i found iphone....haha .. I emailed RIM and told them what they needed to do to get me back...guess what?
I guess all those who have black berrys will have to switch soon when they turn out the lights at RIMM> NKE, not a happy picture. But this is all company specific, buy stocks. What a crock of shit this market is.
Yes, finally.
This is another Nortel.
their blackberry 10 phone is vapor ware because they will be BK by then. I wouldnt even short this stock, nobody is going to buy it.
Typical CEO(s) arogance in technology. Nortel, nokia, motorola, sony, blockbuster, and on an on.
Here's to you Rimm, circling the rim, you stupid cocksuckers.
Stupid? The founders and most of the early employees are already rich - very rich.
in modern terms- where failure is winning and winning for founders or insiders is fucking over shareholders and their employees slaves. I agree with you, yes they did win.
But what I was speaking to- actually building something, creating a proper succession plan, exiting the CEOs after a certain point (2004) and getting a new guy to take it to the next level so the company can innovate, stay competitive, create great jobs and make products people like.
Over a 100 year period, almost every single company will go bankrupt or disappear usually leaving a pile of unpaid debts and maybe some toxic waste sites behind. The wealth a company creates consists primarily of the salaries and taxes they pay while alive and the skills employees learn that might be applied somewhere else and maybe some inventions.
RIMM declines. Apple rises. Doesn't really matter unless you work at one of those places or live in a town with a lot of their employees.
All this gloom and doom is simply based on the economy going down the tubes into a bottomless pit.
Look for a Big Bounce Back tomorrow as the Central Manipulators find something extremely Bullish in this morass.
Triple Digit Friday!!!
Central Manipulators too scared of this dog with fleas. They've got better targets.
Look at how much money you're costing them by not buying their product!!!! Now all of the RIMM customers have to bear your burden. You should be ashamed of yourselves. All of you should be fined (taxed) for not buying their product and service, fucking free riders.
i don't know if rimm will be around for q1 2013 at this point
So sad... They deserve a bailout so all those RIM jobs can be saved. Then Obama can take credit for "creating or saving" 5,000 RIM jobs.
RIMM used to be everyone's darling, this may just be apples future. Without Job last time they floundered, I dont see any more magic devices coming from them.
Apple meet your future, its RIMM
Eventually yes but Apple did it 4 times - mac, ipod, iphone,ipad. Rimm only once. TV still to go maybe. Ever try to use a TV at someone else's house with the multiple remote controls with 100 buttons each....
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/rimm-earnings-shocker-options-traders-1848...
It's levitating downwards, like Nike and Ford.
Not like Smith and Wesson though.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/rim-nike-shares-hit-hard-after-hours-20...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCWdCKPtnYE
Read that before release... had a lol
I listened to the con call, not all is lost
1. cash up slightly, no debt
2. one product has sold out
3. revenues up in the US but just barely
4. 1 b cost savings ahead with restructing and man. streamlining
5. license agreements are solidly nearing
6. enterprise is still upgrading bbm 5/6 to 7
all in all barely treading but maybe not dead just yet, stay tuned
this could be a survivor on some level
@ some level.
2. They've cut suppliers off in anticipation of BB10 roll out. Sold out could just mean leftover supply is expended.
6. Wait... enterprises still at BBM 5/6 and moving to 7? So... they're waiting to get to BBM 10?
Jonjon, they have 56 bbm customers but many of them
still operate on the older blackberrys and many are now
upgrading to the 7. The BBM 10 is not another junk device
(korean) it's a platform - really brilliant actually but maybe still
too late. I'm gonna bet this company can remake itself
and surprise against all the odds and many wanting to
to see it's demise.