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Response To The "No Eurobond" Announcement - "The Theme Of The Market Being "Broken" Continues To Play Out"

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Wed, 08/17/2011 - 09:02 | 1568479 hugovanderbubble
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Short Spain till intervention

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 09:24 | 1568581 maxmad
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And then short it with both hands!

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 09:30 | 1568603 raki_d
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dont you guys know that in my country you can only go long..

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 09:39 | 1568633 Oh regional Indian
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that is one crazy avatar. I'll admit trying to smack the bug. :-) 


Wed, 08/17/2011 - 09:43 | 1568648 Pay Day Today
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Me too lol

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 10:20 | 1568746 spiral_eyes
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no to the eurobond

yes to the eurobong

also yes to sloppy facelicking and kissing between sarkozy and merkel.

yuk yuk yuk.


Wed, 08/17/2011 - 09:52 | 1568681 raki_d
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smack me, bug me, squish me, crush me, kill me, stomp me, break me or shatter me
i'll still be there. My binary reincarnations will keep haunting you.. 

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 09:58 | 1568691 old naughty
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i sprayed you with alcholic cleansing fluid, and was just about taking my mini to the repair shop...then I read ORI's comment.

geewez, you haunted me alright.

Thanks for sharing.

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 10:33 | 1568772 espirit
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to infinity, right?

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 11:20 | 1568901 RockyRacoon
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Is that a eurobug?   Not a bug, but a feature?

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 09:03 | 1568480 speconomist
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What is XOVER?

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 09:08 | 1568506 ZeroPower
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Posted it in the other CDS thread... iTxx Crossover index. 40 various EU corporate CDSs bundled into 1 for extra liquidity when making CDS plays.

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 09:18 | 1568519 speconomist
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Yes, I saw it, was going to post here that you already explained it here.

Thanks a lot again, seems that everyday I learn something from you.

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 11:24 | 1568908 RockyRacoon
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It's one of those myiad of synthetic ways to make money, unlike actually making something in a productive manner.  Breaking down ZeroPower's explanation into its component parts requires way too many steps to explain for something like that to be a "normal" investing vehicle -- in my lowly opinion.  Financial three card monte.

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 09:38 | 1568627 hackettlad
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I had the same question and found the answer elsewhere but thanks also for your succinct explanation. 

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 09:06 | 1568490 Cognitive Dissonance
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Popping market zits can be extremely satisfying.

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 09:12 | 1568528 jus_lite_reading
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POPPING the markets higher on no volume can be extremely lucrative for Whore Street!!!!


Wed, 08/17/2011 - 09:20 | 1568567 The Limerick King
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The markets are starting to crack

And Europe is leading the pack

To placate the Whore

We need to print more

It's time for a false-flag attack!

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 09:29 | 1568596 Cognitive Dissonance
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I love the Limerick King.

Would you be interested in doing a longer piece for me? Or maybe a bunch of short ones with a theme? Have your people call my people. :>)

zhcognitivedissonance at gmail dot com

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 09:43 | 1568649 mick_richfield
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:-)   What?  You want him to write longer limericks?

I propose a series of well-known epic poems, re-cast as limericks.


The Limerick of the Ancient Mariner

A Mariner, ancient and hoary,
Stops one guest as he reaches the party,
"Old man, give it a rest!"
Said the frustrated guest,
"Why the heck are you trying to stop me?"

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 09:50 | 1568674 Cognitive Dissonance
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I think the man deserves a wider audience. He's much more talented than I so why not use and abuse him, then spit him out the back.

I get my inspiration from Goldman Sucks. :>) 

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 11:26 | 1568926 RockyRacoon
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There was a young man from Racine....

Oh, you were looking for something else.

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 10:20 | 1568747 The Limerick King
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It would be my pleasure sir...

I've sent you an email with the prefix I mentioned.


Wed, 08/17/2011 - 10:39 | 1568779 cartonero
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I've gotta say I consider you one of the major talents here on ZH.  Just yesterday I was wishing for a compilation of your prolific output.

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 10:48 | 1568801 Cognitive Dissonance
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Back off Buckaroo. I saw him (her?) first. :>) And yes, s/he is a major talent that I hope receives a wider audience.

ZH seems to be a celestial star nursery and I really do think we need to encourage the hidden ZH genius to come out of their burrows.

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 11:05 | 1568844 cartonero
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Hey, we can share! :D  TLK writes enough to keep us all laughing.


Wed, 08/17/2011 - 09:07 | 1568491 hugovanderbubble
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The CDX index consortium also announced that it is introducing a new 35-name index called the Crossover (XOVER) index on the day of the roll. Criteria for the new index will be a triple-B rating from one of S&P or Moody’s and a double-B rating from the other. One credit derivative strategist says: “We expect the crossover index to be very liquid and to become the main focus of index trading, with a five-year spread in the mid-170 basis point range.”



Wed, 08/17/2011 - 11:28 | 1568940 RockyRacoon
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Hey!  How come I can't buy a fire insurance policy on the home of my alcoholic neighbor who smokes in bed?   That's criminal not to allow me to buy insurance on his house.   That's not a free market!

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 09:06 | 1568494 Eireann go Brach
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Maybe the half woman, half goat Merkel, and the French midget Sarkozy already scheduled their next emergencny meeting!

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 09:07 | 1568501 machineh
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Beware of the dreaded '9:45 flameout.'

Long is wrong.

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 09:07 | 1568502 Dick Darlington
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Well, ECB is again buying the Italian and Spanish toxic waste today so there's your explanation why SOVX is tighter.

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 09:23 | 1568561 falak pema
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'Sterlised' Italiana and Spanish 'toxic' debt. As opposed to FED play of 'monetized' toxic debt with its own PDs. The ECB plays with tens of billions on sterilized basis, the FED on hundreds of billions basis in monetized printing. Nuance.

The only question is if push comes to shove and the bond vigilantes of US based HFs start making big moves in EU zone, can the ECB keep this up? 

We all know the answer! The EU banking debt exposure is huge! On both sides of the pond...explosive molotov cocktail!

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 09:08 | 1568507 falak pema
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The 'no Euroband' status is interim play. The EU has no political mecanism to put a Eurobond of size in place. It needs revision of treaty. A long way to go. That is if the EU people want to go federal...Only the crunch of coming events will decide that! If EU goes federal it will take time and... a lot of more pain to learn lesson.

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 09:13 | 1568533 Everybodys All ...
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The market is no longer free. In fact it's more or less a system now managed by the central planners.

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 09:32 | 1568608 oogs66
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yeah, this move feels completely contrived

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 09:58 | 1568690 Smiddywesson
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It hasn't been a market for quite some time.  I think the major precedent for intervention and manipulation occurred after the 1987 crash.  Since that time, manipulation has been the norm.  Since March 9, 2009, it has been an everyday event.  Now it has degraded to the point that most market action is a battle between the natural tendency to crash, and the manipulators stepping into low volume to clean up and replace the broken china in the cabinets.  Anyone who says the market has to crash or has to ramp is ignoring three years of evidence that it crashes when it must, and it ramps each and every time when it can.  That is not a coincidence. 

Everything makes perfect sense if we accept that everything that is being done is to buy time.  The sole thing not being done to buy time is central bank purchases of gold.  Therefore, the gold purchases are part of their long range planning. 

When ribbed for abandoning stocks, where he was regarded as an expert, for commodities, John J. Murphy said, "Sorry kid, I just went where the money was."   Unless you are day trading volatility, stocks are not where the money is.

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 10:28 | 1568763 ZippyDooDah
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I'm really appreciating your perspective, Smid.  Thank you.

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 09:20 | 1568569 WonderDawg
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Perhaps a tepid rally over the next few days/week to test the H&S neckline before the next shocking plunge.

Or not.

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 09:23 | 1568577 search
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At the risk of sounding cheap, the misallocation of global resources rolls on bitchez. I can't help but fear that pride is blind, and Euro, US and China have maximum pride to conserve. It isn't planned centrally in my view, its a pervasive sickness that will be split under pressure.

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 09:25 | 1568583 Caviar Emptor
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Nouriel Roubini firing shots across the bow this morning, Tyler:

Thus bond mkt prices coming disinflation as UK double dips ": U.K. 10-Year Yield Lowest Since Bloomberg Records Begin in 1989"


Too bad he got it wrong: biflation will consume the low yields into oblivion. Disinflation is a Greenspan wet dream 

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 09:29 | 1568598 speconomist
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Let's wait until it blows up in his face.

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 09:31 | 1568607 JW n FL
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Germany And France Announce Plans For Single European Government As Solution To Debt Crisis




1 World Government on the way!!

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 09:38 | 1568631 Oh regional Indian
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EuroBOND? joke, eh? No bonding in the EU. A forced marriage, splitting at the seams.

Here is a thought though. If we consider some history, who is likely to come out of this smiling, at the very end?

Europe with a few thousand year history or the US (which is a puppet state of course), with it's measly couple of hundred years?

I'd bet on Europe, or more specifically Germany/France/GB/Russia.



Wed, 08/17/2011 - 10:06 | 1568713 Smiddywesson
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Here is a thought though. If we consider some history, who is likely to come out of this smiling, at the very end?

The people with gold, nobody else

Europe with a few thousand year history or the US (which is a puppet state of course), with it's measly couple of hundred years?

Nonsense.  They are cooperating in kicking the can and they are all buying gold.  How then can you think that these coordinated worldwide efforts will not meet the same end?  This will end with them utterly failing together or succeeding in amassing enough gold to institute a healthy monetary system.  They are not acting in lock step without a reason. 

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 10:25 | 1568756 Oh regional Indian
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I'll just say this much. They are acting in lock-step under strict guidance.

No, make that orders. Marching orders. Play by play.

I'd study up on the club of rome, all of the CFR/TC/Bbergers.......

Our belief systems are probably polar opposites, which is all right by me.


Wed, 08/17/2011 - 12:36 | 1569219 tip e. canoe
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ORI, before i challenge you to a friendly duel, are we talking national/cultural/tribal history here or history of the land itself and that of its peoples?

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 09:41 | 1568641 disabledvet
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Fight the tape but fixed income ain't flighty equity. Besides an overwhelming institutional bias the
market itself is of staggering size. IOW it can't be manipulated and those on the wrong side are just plain wrong. It also forces economists to take note: malfunction in the works. Call it the Magical Mystery Tour if u want to find out what it is.

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 10:15 | 1568732 Smiddywesson
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Besides an overwhelming institutional bias the
market itself is of staggering size. IOW it can't be manipulated and those on the wrong side are just plain wrong.

Utterly, hopelessly, wrong.

All markets are manipulated, in all time frames, all of the time.  If anyone believes, after the price action of the last several years, that the markets are not manipulated, they'll never get it.  They want you to believe the markets are not manipulated.  The game is to make you think it is a market and not just a game.  The game is to lure the innocent little kids into one side of the trade and then to grab the rope and haul them through the mud.  So sorry little kids, you lost the tug of war, want to try again?  How about some other market "truths?"

Markets are rational

You can't time the market

Buy and hold is the only legitimate way to invest

Stocks for the long run

This time is different


Wed, 08/17/2011 - 09:41 | 1568642 search
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1 world govt, when each individual country is torn apart by dual global and local mandates? Tough ask.

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 09:54 | 1568671 latentdissident
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The prez yesterday opened the door for Eurobonds if you listened closely. Merkozy both said it, "...if necessary". What did you expect? Announcement in one day, implementation the next day? Not realistic.

Merkozy cannot say they are for it all of a sudden. Too much friction internally, especially with German coalition partner FDP. They will come around. 

Plus, if eurobonds were out of the question, EFSF/ESM would have been increased. Plus, if there hadn't been any news yesterday, markets would have crashed today.


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