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With Ireland down they need to step up the Caribbean banking center and "uk" unrelenting bid
Who wants to make less than 2% on a ten-year in this volatile and insecure environment? They should have tried 2 or 2.01% and everything would have been just fine. Bureaucrats+Finance=Zilch!
Or, if you're Buba, you can just try your luck for sub-2.0%, lowest in history of Bundesbank, for the final auction of the year and laugh as the market buys up 60% of your paper... Frohe Festtage!
Then watch as the ECB cuts rates and you get to fleece the market all over again in the new year... Frohes Neues Jahr!
If you are Jon Corzine with $1.5 billion dollars of stolen MF Global client funds even 1% nets a sweet profit. If he losses it all it's no skin off his back.
I get your point Long John but the bigger question is who the fuck are these guys taking down multi billion dollar bonds week after week? I really can't conceive of that kind of wealth. The primary dealers take down a bunch and resell them to the feds for a profit. There are institutions taking down bonds on a regular basis from investment/401k funds. BUT, who the fuck is big enough to be a registered buyer of billions in bonds from these auctions?
I think the tylers addressed that at one point.
The ECB is loaning banks money and this is used to buy the bonds.
Real private demand at these yields might only cover ten percent.
It is suppossed to be safe ...............
I'm dying to see Europe shit the bed and deflation reign over the globe.
But i know it won't happen.
They'll start printing money for the time being.
They have been printing. That is what they do. They print more and more and more. Everyday they print. The printers don't stop.
Massive deflation plus massive inflation, equals what? It is like a monetary Frankenstein. In the end, it will be proven that fiat is not worth the paper it is printed on.
Massive deflation plus massive inflation, equals what? is like a monetary Frankenstein.
Exactly! Mr Lennon, you've seen it too!
I call it Biflation. It's both deflation in the real economy (from such sources as debt-deflation, over-capacity and fiscal austerity) and inflation in the paper economy (constant money printing, debt monetization, huge global dollar reserves and resources peaking out).
The scariest part? The money printing accelerates the vicious cycle that accentuates both. Both can get worse simultaneously. And central bank bellweather calculations are flawed and won't detect it. If your right hand is in a pot of boiling water, and your left in a pot of ice water, does that mean everything is fine because the central measurement is normal?
Nope. It means you lose both your hands and now you will definately need a girlfriend, or at least insurance that pays off loss of limb.
LOL! Damn that's funny.
Wait till we get "US Covered bond Act of 2011". If congress passes this it's game end!
there is a lot of hidden corruption here.
An invester would need one heck of an iron clad guarantee to put any money into the euro zone these days. It is those iron clad guarantees that have vanished, and the investors have noticed. It won't take long for a collapse to come now.
Oh, and before I forget, happy Thanksgiving to everyone, we all have much to be thankful for.
The money has to go somewhere. Three billion put into FDIC insured accounts is tens of thousands of accounts. There isn't enough gold above ground to soak up the money that wants to find some safe place to hide. There is literally no place for it to hide. We need to keep this in mind when we think the stock market will keep going down. There is a boat load of money out there that has to be somewhere.
Unless you are short term trading these, I cannot comprehend why anyone would buy this shit (shit = any sovereign bond).
They stack the pension funds with that shit
Well they better buy their own shit...they created it....
How does one say Quantitative Easing in European? The European Central bankers are writing their letters to Father Christmas.
"Damn the torpedoes!"
Here you go, Angela.
...Quantitative Easing in European...
...Quantitative Easing in European...
"Father Christmas, give us some money..."
The would be bond buyers are waiting for the germans to mint/coin up the gold that the bundesbank just sold. It's a much safer place to park money than bonds that will be paid in Euros rather than the likely upcoming Deutch Marks!
"certain investors are starting to overlook the Eurozone altogether"
And they would be entirely correct.
Why would anybody put fresh money into any of the Eurozone Nations?
It's just a "Zone".
What the fuck is a "Zone"?
the trope goes: "The dollar is an I O U Nothin!, and the Euro is a WHO? O's U Nothin'!"
"What the fuck is a "Zone"? "
Uh, here I think the Eurogenous Zone is Merkels G-Spot.
slewie wants a Buba bankster bobblehead doll for Xmas
please can i have one? please?
"not enough demand at prevailing yields"
So why not increase the rate than? Aren't they interested in selling all the bonds? Guess if ECB drops rate to 0.50%, then bunds will look better.
Why not increase the rate? That's the part the story left out; the rate did increase, to 2.06%. In the secondary market, 10YR bunds went up 20 bp to 2.08%.
A lot of traders are not so blasé as this writer: some called it "awful" and "abject panic":
Are they pricing in a bank recap? It also has to be a trust issue, not much truth coming out of any of the EU countries.
How long do we have here? The ratings agencies ignored the stupid committee. Now these ass clowns have at least a year to squabble over bullshit cuts. How long before we are where they are?
is the same sort of thing possible in japanese bonds?
The best part is the US still does not think this will ever happen here...tisk, tisk!
Maybe investors are buying cheap German via EIB or KFW or EBRD or EFSF or WestLB ?
Interesting...Europe (Germany) is trying to do the right thing by protecting the value of the currency (or at least more so than the rest of the world). USA, UK et al are scrambling to debase their currencies and monetize debt of governments and large banks.
I really have a hard time understanding why the USA model is seen as so superior, other than the dollar it is used as a reserve currency. These are strange times where so much does not make sense....
Why do you think having the worlds reserve currency is important?
If you can answer that question you will have your answer.
It's not a perfect system but at this current moment in time it's the best of the worst.
This article makes zero sense.
Let's try in simpler terms then:
No demand. Nothing more. Nothing less.
Insufficient demand for the selling price. Which is more than meets the eye if you think about it.
Fairly confident that only those in remedial Cramer class needed that clarification especially since the article said, "And in this case there was not enough demand at prevailing yields." For those confused, with a bond, price and yield are inversely interchangeable.
Of course, even that is only relevant only so long as the medium of exchange still has any faith and credit, especially when the instrument transacted in is the one imparting said faith and credit.
fill tyler's glass, wouldya please?
Hi TD. Thanks for a great site. Regarding the auction, I can accept the market explanation.
My question is: Why, then, the overwrought headlines proclaiming it as a 'disaster'? Is this an effort by Germany to bolster its case against further bailouts? Was the low rate on offer designed as an intentional fail, to make it look as if Germany's credit is weakening along with everyone else's? Are the PIIGS now on notice (we really mean it this time) that if something can't go on forever, it will stop? Perception management is everything in a confidence game.
Your site is about looking beyond the headlines to the substance. I'm trying to look beyond the substance to the what the headline would be if we had real reporting (present company excepted, natch).
Understood, my master. I will resist next time my feeble mind fails to understand such simple truths, clothed as they were in SocGen's blather.
Actually there is some money printing here.
It is well hidden, and the explanation is long.
Where does buba get the money to buy the excess bonds?
Is it loaned to them from the ECB?
Bunds are priced above the market clearing price if buba had to take 39 percent of them. One hundred percent could have been sold privately at a given price. Lets call it Pm ( market price of bonds if auctioned freely to the public).
If Pb is the price the buba is willing to pay and Pb is greater than the price the bonds would have sold for if the price were lowered so that 100 percent sold privately (Pm) then
Pb minus Pm equals free money that appeared by magic.
Yes buba has a corresponding liability to the ECB so it is technically sterlized, but if none of these transactions are ever reversed and all loans are rolled over and new loans provided for buba to step in again when necessary then this free money always stays in circulation.
It looks to me like another form of "bezzle" except this bezzle is never discovered because the accounts are never settled but permanently rolled over and increased.
Wait when the U.S. bond market has a failed auction.
Failed as in your country is an oligarch's nightmare. A true Frankenstein.
Reserve currency. What a sick joke. It's only Rotscum's &Co that made that possible so we could arrive at this nightmarish moment in time with a trillion dollar death and destruction budget in the name of thievery...oops I meant "Imperialism".
And what did it get most Americans? Poverty, the last time I checked.
I can't wait for 2012. War, collapse, hyperinflation.... BRING IT, bitches!
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