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Ugly afternoon for all those mo-mo monkeys who thought it was safe to chase again as Starz ends contract renewal talks with dearly beloved Netflix. NFLX -10.5% after-hours.
Starz Entertainment Issues Statement on Status of Netflix Affiliation
Agreement Renewal DiscussionsPR Newswire
ENGLEWOOD, Colo., Sept. 1, 2011
ENGLEWOOD, Colo., Sept. 1, 2011 /PRNewswire/ -- Starz, LLC, President and
Chief Executive Officer, Chris Albrecht, issued the following statement today
regarding the status of affiliation agreement renewal discussions with
Netflix.
"Starz Entertainment has ended contract renewal negotiations with Netflix.
When the agreement expires on February 28, 2012, Starz will cease to
distribute its content on the Netflix streaming platform. This decision is a
result of our strategy to protect the premium nature of our brand by
preserving the appropriate pricing and packaging of our exclusive and highly
valuable content. With our current studio rights and growing original
programming presence, the network is in an excellent position to evaluate new
opportunities and expand its overall business."
Maybe in his heart of hearts, Tilson wil get some schadenfreude (as opposed to real returns) from this and we hope his investors see it that way too (or remind him to stick with his high conviction calls). Though at least he didn't add in size during the last quarter like Lone Pine Capital, Sands Capital Management, Winslow Capital, D.E. Shaw, and Tiger Global Management and a whole host of the finest minds in the 2/20 crowd.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
patience, bitchez — i'm glad shorting NFLX is finally working out. ponzis get taken down, eventually. GRPN next:
http://azizonomics.com/2011/08/27/groupon-unsustainable-parasite/
At least netflix is a real company making money and has been around for years. It's completely overvalued though but it's not "groupon" or "twitter" of "facebook" even. NFLX is probaly going to go the way of Blockbuster eventually.
Yeah, they're going to become extinct. If they'd offer just released movies online instead of making you pay extra and get the damn DVD it wouldn't happen as fast as its going to.
Oh, and they're sloowwwwwww. My streaming would get interupted continually while I did not have one problem with streaming through Amazon.
At least they have smart executives. Reed Hastings has been dutifully selling 5000 shares a week to the momo idiots...and the CFO cashed out and resigned about 8 months ago...
hilarious
Hmmm... something looks very similar about that chart... something reminds me of the global equities market ... something about a dead.... a dead dog, or... something?
Groupon has been dead for 4 months now - it won't even IPO.
Old news.
Zynga missing? Semi-new: if Google can't get their shit together on + (which they're slipping) and dunking the CEO looking for 70:1 into a bath of reality, they're also toast.
I mentioned all of this to someone a few months ago. Might even be a pro-zynga post by myself if you looked furthernough back.
You are undermining stupidity of investors, especially foreign. Russian mafia doesn't care about valuations, they just want to launder their riches from state assets into something remotely credible. Russians buying luxury goods and US real estates left and right when Japanese learned their lesson long time ago.
Perhaps Fed is working to screw these Russians too. As soon as US hands over inflated assets to foreigners (the last fool), they will tighten and buy them back 10 years later.
Oppulence, I has it.
I hope the Russians love their children too
They certainly love them more than they love yours, you fucking idiot hippie.
Ok. you get the honor of my first profane response here: What a mother fucking idiot you are.
You'll want to back that statement up, kinda pronto - if there's one thing not going to take dubious slush money, its crappy western code.
Given that Russian investment in code has never been dumb, and I know of a few major E. European / Russian game devs now on steam. Some of the best code out there is Russian / Ex East Europe, dumbass1. Not to mention the other few houses cracking games left / right / centre [hello... Ubisoft.. LOL] and cracking everything from cards to silly government agencies. Shit, back in 1998 Russian markets were the place to get cracked games - before the entire intarweb torrent function.
So... kinda time to prove some expertise, or shut the fuck up. Or - list me a website of yours, I'm sure some "stupid Russians" will be more than happy to say hello.
Here's a thing: name me 10 Russian coders now working in the West. Try the google, you might get 50%. I'll take 33% as you being full of shit.
p.s.
If you really think that Russians aren't aware of Groupon/Zynga issues, then... hmm. Troll elsewhere. You might want to get an education on who cracks online games at some point as well. Derp. Here's a tip, you fucking chimp: China gold farms, Russia cheats2. Gold farming for online games [using prisoners, no less] was worth approx $132 million last year - so what's cheating worth?
Why are you focusing your argument on russian coder quality because that's not the topic of my statement. I was referring to russian oligarchs. Here is a secret: russian billionares don't make money producing code. They make money off of state assets they magically took over (KGB style) when russia fell. Jews got there first of course, but putin kicked them out.
Make no mistake. Russia's wealth is natural gas.
You missed the snark of my post. I even gave it to you on a plate in the footnotes.
Tetris.
Sigh, ok, I'll unpack, since this might not be obvious - EvE online is the #1 Capitalist wet dream of an online game. It even recently had a trillion ISK [which is about.. hmm.. $40k real world value (and yes, it is redeemable)] ponzi scheme - http://www.evenews24.com/2011/08/12/one-of-the-biggest-scam-in-eve-histo.... EvE online is famous for the lengths that players will go to to game, cheat, lie, steal, kill, devastate and otherwise "win the game" - look through its history - the Goon Swarm even pre-mapped Anonymous tactics in the real world. Not even joking - and in the game, they took out (permanently wiped) the largest, most expensive ship in the game. [Nose wiggling yet?]
Now, add the dots:
EvE online hosts some of the largest scale reality based modelling of cut-throat Capitalism out there. It is a microcosm of the macrocosm - and it is studied for that very reason
Russian Oligarch (aluminium based) really did drop $150k into it just to make a virtual Empire - ISK [ingame currency] can be traded [market modeled] to FLEX which can be used to purchase online game time [subscription]
It is made by CCP (or Crowd Control Productions) who happen to be Icelandic. It is part funded by General Catalyst Partners, a hedge fund. Is your nose wiggling yet? It should be.
All of the interactions are done within the law of the game.
Can you engage with this now?
Man that who coupon thing came and went in about 2 months.
Srsly groupon is so freaking lol the first time I heard of that lame shit. I woulda cashd out stat (Q2 2011) if i was that marshmella boy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIrhVo1WA78&NR=1
'RIPFlix, lulz....also RIP MomoChaser.
Did Paulson own this one too?
Robo, Mathman.....NO, dont jump!
B-but how will people get TV and movies on the internet without paying huge premiums??
through megaupload and rapidshare maybe?
Old school - the whippersnappers are using wupload and fileserve and filesonic
No, they cost money. megaupload is quick and free (with jdownloader)
maybe there will be more money in the future. mold inspection
The inverse Smith-Barney rationale? Or basically the same as Wall Street. Bigger selection, and you can front run the physical limitations, like release dates. Also like wall street.
Yet Wall Street is the one that doesn't get punished. Go figure.
bit-torrent. You can't protect content in the digital internet age. This move will push more ppl into piracy with bittorrent or usenet.
bittorrent? you will have police in front of your door soon my friend
How? Track your IP addy?
They will be a continent off if they try that.
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they threaten your VPN provider. if you use TOR they will send police to exit nodes...
ISPs are cutting off net access for subscribers who download copyrighted content through bittorrent. RIAA monitors the access and demands the ISP suspend service. Bit Torrents' days are growing short.
Ahem.
As I was just saying yesterday (regarding DeadTix).
Die, POS MOMO stocks with no minimal barriers to entry, no IP of any significance, and fart in the wind business models. DIE.
LULU, you're on deck.
PCLN, tell Shatner he's not funny.
I don't think Shatner really gives a shit any more. He could buy a small nation with the loot he's banked on PCLN stock.
Who woulda thunk it; Captain Kirk, billionaire pitchman.
How many wives has he drowned?
The girl in latex does make the commercials enjoyable.
Ah yes, Naomi Price! My first thought as well. Meh, out with the media trollop! I'm gonna have to get up close and personal with reality from here on out, I guess.
In that case, I think you want backpage.com.
People talk, you hear things.
Upscale version of Craigslist?
I wouldn't say upscale.
Honest, though.
Rare thing these days.
The "Sex" category, I see. Don't ever tell your wife--she deserves better.
Unless she doesn't, I suppose. Not the way I would deal with that, but, hey.
I agree.
Since she decided to forgive me and move back in, I have decided to stop being that kind of asshole. I do not deserve her.
In the context of the word 'deserve', and if it is to be used, I'd say don't say you do not deserve her. Her decision to move back with you means you deserve each other. To me though, deserve is a word of no value.
Content rights is King in the new USA. Thanks for the slip-n-slide, pipes.We'll trade you down.
DIE MOMO's, DIE!
Netflix shifts from streaming to waterfall collapse
WTF is up with the new ad block in the left magin of the page that covers an additional 1/3 of the middle column??????????
i was wondering that as well.
I keep getting some photoshopped steroid guy staring at his crotch. I think it's selling protein shakes or some supplement.
Who the fuck would ever want to look like that, anyway? That's like those creams that are supposed to make your pecker grow until it drags on the floor. PT Barnum sure was right.
> Who the fuck would ever want to look like that, anyway?
My high school gym teacher told me only pussies said that.
I stopped applying the cream when it reached my knee.
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Firefox + Ad Blocker Plus = No more ads.
Done. Why I, of all people, have put this one off for so long I do not know. Whatever.
Thanks.
Wow ! No more Cramer ads ! No more Glenn Beck shilling gold !
Why am I always the last to know about these things ?
yeah, i'm cool with booze ads, just not when they cover the text
What ads?
Have you noticed the 40 or so cookies per page load?
Funny you should mention that! I've watched them apparently streaming, yet when I do a browser cookie dump or external spyware scrub they don't seem to be there. Not in that quantity. Obviously, there is much I don't fully understand . . . what's going on with that?
I'm not a software hotrod, but the super slow loads on ZH made me go looking, and the In Private browser setting showed a huge amount being allowed even though I have a very tight cookie policy.
I reset all of them to "block" and the reload time sped up a lot.
Google does not need to know my browsing habits on ZH. Satanic fuckers.
Grow up, most of the cookies are due to adding the +like buttons, and a few innocuous trackers:
Google +1
Google Adsense
Google Analytics
Halogen network
Statcounter
Twitter Button
178.209.47.203
Name RIPE NCC Operations Handle RNO29-ARIN Company RIPE Network Coordination Centre Street P.O. Box 10096 City Amsterdam State/Province Postal Code 1001EB Country NL Registration Date 2005-04-29 Last Updated 2011-06-07 Comments Phone +31 20 535 4444 (Office) Email hostmaster@ripe.net RESTful Link http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/RNO29-ARIN See Also Related organizations.Just like "those innocuous lies we must tell every day if society is to remain civil"
it's ZH that is feeding you the cookies
Because I love this community...
If you want to disable it, just click Tools > Greasemonkey > Manage user scripts and delete it.
V'oila! No more BS and ZH still gets ad impressions.
Everybody wins.
Awesome...no need to squint to read these comments
in oz we get ads for chinese and russians babes wanting to meet a nice man.
why would i want to get rid of that?
but...but...but...I was sure that with that modest 67x PE ratio that it had lots and lots of room to run.
LNKD next???
"the silver bubble popped and I shit my pants again, my broker told me to sell my silver and buy netflix...." lmao its even funnier now
Make your broker buy the beer! It is only fair.
Not all brokers are equal. Some are experienced enough to know when the trend breaks... Just saying...
When the starz make you drool...
notice how starz waited to announce on the day that NFLX 60% price hike took effect...they're pissed...
that's PRIME!
Bad news for spartacus fans.
Starz has Starz on Demand...never understood why they distributed through Netflix in the first place. I wonder how many customers cancelled their Starz subscriptions before mgmt came to the conclusion the partnership was a bad idea?
No more Smokey and the Bandit II? OH NOES!!
Starz ain't all that. 1000 titles, mostly crap. premium nature myass.
Classic...and true. You want to know the sad thing, I pay for both of them. Starz is the minimum package required for bundled phone and internet, and I can't cancel the Netflix streaming because the kiddies love all the TV shows. Everytime I look at the movie selection on both platforms it makes me sick.
Are people going to drive to the movie store or get cable/satellite just for their crap? I don't think so... Bad move for Starz.
Most will do that. Some will drop cable and find out that it really did turn your mind to oatmeal.
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can you all picture this! Robo pounding on the sell button, but alas, it is after 4:00! meanwhile, he's still pounding away like that e-trade baby!!!!
"Annnd it's gone." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAKsMnAM8vk
Oh no. Poor Robotrader :-(
Of course he probably went short yesterday.
I just wonder if he will show in this one.
RoboTarder is watching Money Never Sleeps (from DeadTix) and wearing a LULU outfit, puking his guts out, right now.
Lol.
I was thinking the very same thing :)
That guy has made THE MOST bad calls in history.
Even Cramer gets it right more than Robo does AND THAT'S NOT A COMPLIMENT :)
Oh no. Poor Robotrader :-(
He probably went in his shorts today.
Fixed that for ya ;-)
4.2 Quake in the LA area....
We could be about to see a lot more too...
http://goo.gl/Da0t
Both Starz and Netfilx suck.
agreed. The whole "Watch Instantly" has some of the shittest most random movies. Not worth it. IMHO.
It is interesting to see the transition in digital media though, observing from the viewpoint of a college student on campus. It used to be considered a luxury to have cable TV in a dorm room or an apartment, Now it is absolutely mind-boggling how few people even consider having cable worthwhile with the alternatives like Netflix, iTunes and YouTube.
BB - Check out the documentary section, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. Tons of good stuff for us like-minded folks on ZH. Collapse, Loose Change, Why We Fight, The Corporation, Food Inc, The Beautiful Truth, Crude Awakening, some Alex Jones movies, for starters. I agree the feature film selection sucks. But some good TV series - I'm marathoning through Sons of Anarchy Seasons 1 and 2 right now, and the Thomas the Train selection for my 2 year old pays for itself.
I saw Sons of Anarchy on there, how is that show?
Collapse was great, even if I don't fully buy into the peak-oil theory. Ruppert is a cool dude, serious goldbug too!
SOA is sick. Only bad thing - only the first 2 seasons on NFLX, but at that point I had no problem buying season 3.
Nothing beats the internet for documentaries and they are free.
SD-One, @ 17:25,
Couldn't agree more.
I do not see how Blockbuster has kept the rights to NEW releases 30 days in advance of anyone else.
Esp since their PPV is a rental per movie.
Sucks the big one......wouldn't rent off T.V. period, 2x's the normal rates, sometimes more.
Bottom line, Hollweird sucks, they have put out maybe 6 movies worth watching this entire year.
Peak space junk, biitchez...
Space junk reaching "tipping point," report warnsThe amount of debris orbiting the Earth has reached "a tipping point" for collisions, which would in turn generate more of the debris that threatens astronauts and satellites, according to a U.S. study released on Thursday.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/01/us-space-debris-idUSTRE7805VY2...
More defence spending needed. Let the games begin.
"The final frontier" is already litered with debris
Now there's a black swan. How long would it take the debri field from damaged or obliterated COM SAT GPS SAT to take out more starting a nasty chain of events. Let your imagination do the walking.
Yup. They won't be laughing
Answer to my own question
So obviously it takes a while but it is cumulative.
Some higher order differential equation to describe the new prob distribution of collisions
Yep and the chances increase with more crap floating around too.
Gonna have to break out the old nuclear reaction ping pong ball thing at the next symposium for educational purposes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORqc1x3_Evg
May I suggest a more sophisticated offering.
http://youtu.be/z5TMU6HGGU0
ASTEROIDS!
http://www.play.vg/games/4-Asteroids.html
I think you make a good point.
Geosynchronous orbit is a very high altitude compared to what many may be familiar with for manned spaceflight and also many earth observation satelites.
Many earth observation satelites are in polar orbits while typical communication satelites are in the geo slots.
More troublesome in my mind is the higher altitude debris because it will not de-orbit. Stunts like the US military (in a tit-for-tat with China) destroying a "weather" satelite literally sprays debris everywhere and sometimes into higher orbits.
Usually the graveyard is beyond geo or into the atmosphere so it is just all the odd bits that fall off or left over launch debris.
This wil be an awesome stock to get at a lower price just before QE3 is announced. Shake out the weak hands
http://www.wikihow.com/Treat-a-Bleeding-Ulcer
Use during your wait for QE3.
this is such bullshit, I hope they don't still expect me to pay my $7.99/month, they need to shave at least $2.00 off for starz, that's one grande a month at starbucks, black coffee of course
Cost of a latte a month increase they say. Lol. Decaf and watered down more like it.
No matter. Our 'conomy is an AAPL derivative, which is holding up quite well.
I was thinking about starting my own company and call it: BANANA!
Anybody want in?
It has appeal...
At least you are not calling it RAPEFRUIT - oh sorry, I've forgotten the G.
Yeah, we can use best-of-breed technologicial intitiatives to leverage advanced opportunities in the burgeoning structured profit industry.
starz got screwed when nflx paid ~ $30 mil for its content...nflx made money and now the content providers want their cut...starz is just the first...hence nflx desperate attempts to produce original content and reassure investors that their international expansion plans justify their obscene stock price...
Fuk yes. (Have Dec puts on this hog)
I watch PORN and don;t care for anything else. Price stays the same and so is the plot. Its predictable.
Cum again?
I've watched about 10.000 porn movies AND NEVER DID I WATCH IT UNTILL THE END!
Really! I just came to realize that. How weird is that?
kevin nealon - porn review
Time to die now Netflix... go back to 50$ or less a share.
There's trouble brewing behind that scenes as more and more broke Americans have been cutting their cable and satellite services. We're going back to basics, biitchez. Anyway Netflix contributes to obesity
0 exercise is probably the single largest contributor to obesity after diet.
I doubt everyone was skinnier before Netflix started streaming movies.
i just said "contributes" (disclaimer) not causes
Anything that encourages hours of lying oncouches with cheez doodles and oreos is a safe bet contributes
Like reading and posting on ZH?
Umm, consuming more calories than you burn in the day is the only cause of obesity. Exercise has nothing to do with it.
I get in these discussions all the time at work. People are always saying how they work out, blah blah blah, and they cannot lose weight. Everyone is after the next exercise video to make them skinny.
Pretty simple equation, If calories in <calories out, you lose weight. I have a copy of Dr. Furhman's Eat to Live at my desk to give to people. I tell them they can lose as much weight as they want. Everyone looks for the weird thyroid condition as to why they are fat. They say "I eat healthy", etc. I say keep a diary of everything you put in your mouth and don't lie then we can talk about healthy eating.
First line after "I eat healthy" is "Skinless chicken breast", which ain't healthy. We delude ourselves in society into believing our lies (CD explains this in his writings), nothing will change until we stop lying.
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Everyone looks for the weird thyroid condition as to why they are fat.
You get that too. Doctors diagnose them with this so they can sell medication and the patient doesn't feel guilty. Its ridiculous.
Yeah, and I am in drug development so it is tough to get out of bed in the mornings sometimes. Off to make a newer poison or a more effective excuse pill.
As an aside, people ask me now how they can do x,y,z without taking meds. Not because of my profession, but my crazy talk (truth) as to what the allopathic medial industry is about.
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Thats a tough pill to swallow. Sorry couldn't resist.
Those are tough words to swallow. ;)
The whole model was absurdly without any future. Keep beatin' that drum, Tylers!
The online streaming business is flawed for 1 main reason. You can get more selection of the same quality for FREE at sites like:
torrentscan.com
thepiratebay.com
bittorrent.com
eztv.it
etc,etc,etc,etc x1000
You can even grab that PTJ vid where he's drinking a Budweiser while trading @3 a.m on those sites.
Are $10 burritos and designer diapers next?
We live in a crazy world.
A $10.00 'burrito' is typically a meal large enough for two people containing fresh vegetables, black beans, rice and real meat like chicken, steak, or fish. That is not only a better value than feeding two people ANY 'value meals' it is also much more nutritious. $10.00 'Burritos' are also often served at places that have much more going for them than a 'play ground' and a plastic clown or some psychotic looking 'king'. There are at least 6 other comparisons that can be made but Im not going to waste any more time. $10.00 Burrito and a real beer, vs McDonalds, Burger King, Wendys, Steak and Shake, Krystals, ChickFilla, Zaxbys, Subway, Firehouse, Quiznos, TacoHell, White Castle or Five guys?? Its the $10.00 burrito any time.
I live in Texas. I get real tacos for $1.50, I usually go for the shredded beef.
You food snobs are nuts. When did it become a crime to serve high calorie, good tasting, affordable food?
Arby's rocks, btw. Cheap, good tasting and filling. Something that the history of mankind would have celebrated before the corrupt medical industry sold itself to the devil.
Don't be knockin the Castle...great coffee.
Quake was ust upgraded to 4.3
My farts register higher than 4.3
This is not news.
During dinner last night, my GF's 18 yr old son hands me his Netflix invoice and asked me why they are raising their rates? I explain why. He said "That's BS", can we cancel my service? I reply, "Is this what you want?". He reponds, "yes cancel my service". Moral of my story, we gave him the ability to have Netflix, but he pays for it and doesn't feel the increase justifies the means.
Starz is in for a world of hurt down the line. I do not see any pre news insider congressional trading. It looks like they kept things quiet and did not leak anything until the news release. Time to watch their back if they are not tipping off the Reps. Might do some damage control by upping campaign contributions, but this will leave a sour taste in the staffers mouth for a while.
I like cookies. If it wasn't for the ads here I would never have known you could buy an ePad for 80 dollars. That's way better than an iPad.
May I interest you in this?
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_162-20099394-501465.html
Where is robo? This is one of his babies...he must be crying right about now.
Note: I did not make this post. Someone has highjacked my accout
One call from the CEO of Netflix to Obama & Buffett...and the CEO of Starz will be quietly stepping down. Netflix is the saviour of AAAA nations like the US apparently...
perhaps the sycophantic bulls will now start to listen to, and call the company on it's inconsistent, idiotic public commentary. Mr. Hastings suggests that he manages the business for net subscriber growth and is therefore not focused on churn. As a result, the company will stop reporting churn after its upcoming third quarter (conveniently just as churn is set to spike higher). But rather than nodding like a bobble-head, I would like to explore the absurdity of this comment. Netfilx is incurring costs of approximately $15 for every gross subscriber addition. So in Mr. Hastings comment we have embedded a purported indifference to a quarter during which the company would add one million gross subscribers at a cost of $15 million but only one net new subscriber and a quarter during which the company would add just one gross and one net customer at a cost of $15! The man is a disingenous hypster whose time has come.