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Rome Is Burning - Live Feed
Two months ago we suggested that as part of the transition of austerity's center from Greece to Rome, we would soon see the launch of "The Piazza Navona Strike Cam." Close enough: as of this afternoon local time, Rome is literally burning, as expected yesterday when we covered the most recent events in Milan. From the Telegraph: "Demonstrators in Rome set fire to two cars and broke shop windows during a protest in the Italian capital, as activists organised a series of rallies in 82 countries. Inspired by the Occupy Wall St movement and Spain's "Indignants", demonstrators from Asia to Europe took to the streets. Riot police in Rome charged hundreds of protesters and fired water cannons, while a group of activists set alight a defence ministry annex nearby. Flames could be seen coming out of the roof and windows of the building on Via Labicana as firefighters struggled to tame the blaze. Dozens of masked protesters could be seen in the area, which had not been cordoned off. The violence was said to be caused by hooded militants known as "black blocks," who have infiltrated demonstrations in the past. There were no immediate reports of injuries. Television images showed one of the cars in flames and spewing thick black smoke over the route of the demonstration, which was otherwise peaceful." Whether due to a subversive group, or representative or broader pent up anger, increasingly more people are waking up to the fact that the current system does not work and needs a reset. Alas, for the "resistance movement" to be truly effective, things will have to deteriorate far more, and the welfare state structure will have to be truly on its last breath. As long as the status quo can dangle promises of (completely insolvent) pension benefits and retirement plans to the 99%, all of "this" is mostly for show.
Watch the live feed below courtesy of Corriere della sera after the jump.
And some pictures from earlier:
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Instead of using them to raid Unicredit...
The Walking Dead are on the move. See them stagger. See them moan. See them burn and wave their sticks. See them defecate on cars. To arms! To arms!
That is a generous descripstion of the polizia.
When can we expect to see this in NYC?
Hopefully never, because then they go from peaceful protestors to domestic terrorists... and we all know where it goes from there.
Never been to the South Bronx, eh?
People have short memories. NY has seen serious riots in the past (1970s) with building looted and literally burned to the ground. I'm too lazy to find the link but you can Youtube it with those keywords.
How many of these guys are agent provocateurs ?
The level of organization and tactics is interesting. Helmets and gas masks plus orchestrated attacks show planning but there is level of restaint shown as well. Police clustered in groups on streets below multistoried buildings are very vulnerable (imagine Mr. Molotov's cocktail, large version) yet were not attacked. Whoever is doing the organizing only wants limited confrontation at this point. Remember that TPTB are multifaceted and prone to struggle for position, who is behind the organized resistance? It may be legitimate civilian opposition groups but there is zero chance they are not thoroughly infiltrated.
Didn't Greece start that way? How long before it spirals out of control?
People don't want to think that way. They actually believe all of those people are independent agents expressing their hostility towards their government.
Attention Alien civilizations! If your out there and listening, NOW would be a good time to show up!
snarc: Dr. Krugman, you can post under your real name. Despite what you heard about this place, we do have rules. You can tap out of the fight at anytime and it is over. rest up, and then get in the mix again.
First crop circle appears in White House vegetable garden
yeah, I'm hoping for a death star type deal, something where it's over before you realize exactly what is about to happen.
after all I would rather be spared the whole Teleprompter getting in front of everybody and talking about how it's some kind of Iranian plot to contract the galactic empire to kill some ambassador on American soil and as a result we will all be subjected to rectal exams in perpetuity every time we walk out of our front doors courtesy of the DHS and TSA.
it would also be nice to avoid the econodrons telling us how bullish this is for stocks and watching the DOW subsequently vapor rise all the way to 1 million.
so, if they do show up I hope they drop out of warp, fire up the super laser and have done with it before the first politician or bankster can formulate any thoughts of any kind on the matter...
Why bother?!? We're pretty good at destroying ourselves. It will happen sooner or later. All they have to do is wait it out in cryogenic stasis on their colony ship.
The Indignados of Madrid: Europe’s Biggest Failures
According to reliable reports, the consensus method was imposed via the steering committee preparing for the demonstrations during the summer months. Individuals claiming to be students from Spain and Greece arrived and joined the steering committee, where they advocated the crippling consensus method. They pointed to the general assemblies held by the indignados of Madrid, a movement of youthful protesters concerned about austerity measures, youth unemployment, the excessive power of bankers, and economic injustice. But, even compared with Tunis, Cairo, Athens, and Reykjavík, the Madrid indignados must be judged as the biggest failure of them all, because of their total inability to oust the “socialist” IMF agent Zapatero, the enforcer of genocidal austerity demanded by the banks, or to block any of the austerity cuts. The indignados had no positive impact whatsoever on Spanish politics. Why imitate failure? This is the side of the current protests which Wall Street predator George Soros was happy to endorse this week. Webster Tarpley
IDIOTS! If you really want to fight then take the route to Palazzo Grazioli, where bunga bunga man hides and leave peaceful people demonstrate alone: a few hundred idiots (or agents provocateurs?) hijacked the manifestation, now we will only talk about the riots in S. Giovanni square and not about the banksters and the indignous politicians... Bunga Bunga man thanks wholeheartedly... Hundret of thousands of peaceful people with ideas and ways to communicate these... and these idiots... >:o(
IDIOTS: this should be a revolution? Go to the Soccer play at sunday if you just want to have fun with riot police... wrong time, wrong place and wrong objectives. The bast allies of the powers in being.
In this very moment the police seems having managed to cut off those idiots from the main part of the demonstrants and has pushed them out of S. Giovanni place in Via Merulana, I sincerely hope they cut them the way out and give them what they deserves.
I'm not a priori against violence if necessity be, but this is just plain stupid and only gives the edge to those they supposedly want to fight.
There were people cheering at the police when they charged and many families had to seek refuge in the S. Giovanni cathedral. Bunch of IDIOTS...
Ciao Luigi!
One thing's for sure, those "black block" types should simply be shot on sight...
The people need to go after the politicians who perpetuated the horrible euro experiment.
Carpet bombing parts of Brussels would be a good place to start, imho...
No, they should go after the bankster and their buttlers sitting in the parliaments.
The Euro should come under control of the citizens (we, the people) not simply dumped.
No carpet bombing or democracy export needed: just a couple 22lr rounds with suppressor... and back to the Guilloutine: much more Euro-style :)
Eh Luigi!
The euro was dreamed up by the euro-politicians and their banksters, or by the "elite" for the "elite" - and it will never be the people's money. It can never be, it's monopoly money. It's fake...
Agreed about the guillotine! :o)
Since 1970 something also the US$ is monopoly money: maybe you should dump it... let's do this way: we dump Euro and US$ togheter...
Just got back from two weeks in Tuscany - Chianti region and Montalcino. No strikes there or riots. Just fantastic wine and friendly people. Let Rome burn, and Milan too for that matter. Those places are not the "real Italy", but rather the playpens of their top 1%.
I was going to load the truck and head for the hills, but Michigan is playing Michigan State, so I only filled the tanks and loaded the weapons.
Maybe I'm getting a little complacent...
It's sad but necessary.
What is the von Clausewitz phrase?
'War is the continuation of politics by other means.'
Until you start seeing petty bankers, lawyers, lobbyists, Fed/IMF wonks and politicians lying in the street next to bloodied cops and rioters its still all controlled theater. I'd say you have something when a helicopter of IMF flunkies falls out of the sky.
Sadly the rabble in the streets does not even understand that the real controllers, the ones guiding the construction and policy of the Fed, DHS, the failed SEC, etc. don't drive their own cars, cook their own food or even live in an area accessible to you and me. Hell. My so-called representative in congress does not even live in the same state anymore. Not that they are even remotely significant to the rise of the corporate fascism all around us.
"... the blood of tyrants and patriots."
I would say we have something once meaningful reforms are enacted and enforced. Until we get to that point, it doesn't matter who's blood is flowing, it's all just an escalation of the same failed policies.
Sad but necessary? I saw no bankster lying in S. Giovanni Square, I saw cars of private citizens burning (citizens dupporting the protest, I might add), I saw idiots looking for clashes with the police. I saw no followers of Clausewitz clashing with the police put in defense of Palazzo Grazioli or attempting assaulting the Central Bank or pursuingg any bankster running down the street or prominent politicians... I saw people who had to seek refuge in a church because a bunch of idiots can't detain its most basic instincts... Bunch of idiots!
Why would you think the agent provocateurs are not working for the banks?
If you wanted to distract attention, this is the ideal way to do it.
Of course I think that those IDIOTS were teleguided by agent provocateurs.
But alas, I think most of the mob were just idiots pretending to fight against "the power" and even were in good faith, those idiots!
IN THE SPIRIT OF GANDHI:
in fighting for a cause, we should strife for non-violent, non-compliance and non-participation in anything we believe is evil.
We need a complete reset that is true ... but that includes a property reset. The 1% don't just own the loans of the 99%, they also own natural monopolies ... and they are busy buying up more.
As long as you keep dreaming of a transition to anarcho capitalism without a property reset to bring back high median standards of living you are living in lala land as much as these protesters. All it will end up in is feudalism and rent seeking.
No no folks, with all ZH hyperbole aside this still doens't mean the world is coming to an end. Sorry. Aww.
So when was the last time you saw worldwide riots and protests? Bullish I'm sure... Hahaha...
Bulls will become Steers soon...
On a world ending scale, I think I'd be a little bit more frightened of say something along the lines of the Cuban missile crisis.
All that's happening here is some gangly collecto-anarchist fags are tossing some burning dumpsters into the street.
Cuba got rockets, who knew.
Maybe you could run that by Holder , no more offtrack than his idiot fantasy.
The world ends everyday.
Rome wasn't burnt in a day.
Sorry, but Nero did it... and then, the anti-system ( at that time Christians) were turned into Lion´s "Dog Chow".
I'm asking if this is bullish for stocks and the status quo. So is it? Yeah, a real 90's bull market we got brewing here. Lulz...
Yeah you're right, it was probably Nazi aliens that fomented that whole thing. I mean the Joint cheifs were just itching at the trigger for WWIII at that time. The whole thing was probably one big false flag.
Buy, buy, buy... BUY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just don't plan on selling anything to me once you and the algos have jacked equities up 50% playing hot potato...
The last time I saw world wide protests was before before W went into Iraq.
Lot of good that did.
They're all fired up in Lisbon at the moment.
Wow, this is again market manipulation!!! The evil short squeezers put off this riot when the markets are closed!!! How evil!!! Buy gold!!! Buy, buy, buyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!?!?!!? ;(
Oh great ... stuck in between the elite neo-Versailles lizards and the self-styled "anarchist" sans-culottes wannabes who witter on about "banksters" but when you ask them about their solutions, they always seem to involve "guverment" becoming some sort of 100 per cent, centrally-planned Soviet-esque system, complete with a total disregard for the really basic economic realities of western countries.
I really despair sometimes. No wonder so many Europeans buggered off to the New World back in the day.
So Jamie, bankers are the western reality uh huh!
Since the gvt can't do it, looks like only your hippy fags have a chance now.
Lol at Italian cops, obviously they can take lessons from American cops who will bash the fuk out of anyone instead of putting out fires after the protestors...
RIOT the VOTE !
Global Uprising: Protests Heat Up at London Stock Exchange & Rome; 951 Cities; 82 Countries
Firestarter http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmin5WkOuPw
Vigilante Man http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4KmbUCwkyE
The warriors are here.
While I feel for the people, there are some simple facts that make me view this entire Occupy movement with skepticism and a certain measure of contempt.
1. Why are you not erecting a protest camp in the park across from the White House?
2. Why are you not erecting a protest camp on Capital Hill?
3. Why are you not taking the protests into the faces of those who enact or can change policies?
Blue Horseshoe says LONG the companies making billy clubs and bandages.
The bankers own the politicians. Ask Blarney lets be Frank
It's Barney Fwank
Think Ghandi. He won.
because all you fat ass couch warriors are going to take out the trash at the next election, right?
So, since that is locked down, you won't diss , right, we will have to do the work you are to scared to undertake.
Don't forget you can't vote out a banksterm bub.
How bout' Slovakia? They vote the bailout down and whoops just vote again until it'd s yes. The world and it's citizens are being pushed to the brink. Populations eveywhere are snapping....
'bout f-ing time. The structures of control are straining, and simple rules about complexity and limits to growth are manifesting themselves. All the "commie, socialism, Marxist, blah, blah, blah" is amusing talk from those vested in the dominant paradigm, spewing a learned ideology, but there is genetic imperitive in communalism and cooperation. No man, or family, alone is an island. If the 99% wish to have a different system, it will come to pass, and the few will be swept away, even with the best Xe security money can buy. Get over the left-right, Dem-Rethug false memes, too, please. They are so 20th Century.
What do the Italians have to riot about anyway? It's not like Greece. In Italy they haven't faced any austerity yet. I can see why people would get fed up with Berlusconi, but let's face it - they actually voted for him. My advice: Next time, don't.
Italy is a nation of football hooligans, who are always ready and eager to go rioting through the streets, and will jump on any excuse to do so. It would be a mistake to think what they're doing is an actual protest against the financial system.
Let me tell you the polite way: you don't know shit about the Italian situation, about how a whole generation of young and well educated people has no perspective of finding a reasonable job whatsoever and an older generation is facing social dumping, meaning being thrown out of labour market with a family to feed and no perspective other than black market, but don't despair, the mediterranean countries are just playing guinea pigs: it will soon spread to your nice and shiny northern Countries and you will all too soon realize what I'm talking about. Not that I wish it to you.
Has Berlusconi walked his horse into the Senate, already?
no need to, history doesn't repeat itself, it rhymes and after the last confidence vote he already rewarded his stable by making two pigs vice minister and two slimy rats undersecretary in some ministry... After all, it's just a question of price and there are only too many ready to pay to sell themselves.
Magnets & Leadership
We are always talking about the unified field equation. Each circle has an event horizon (electric cars, NatGas, REITs, gossip magazines, etc.) reflected off the looking glass based on resonant activity within the looking glass, resulting in a distribution of individual and group penetrations, circulation dynamics, which is adjusted by setting the gaps/paths (multiplexer) between them.
What is the perception gap between Greece, Italy, and Germany, internally to EU, and versus China and the states in the US? What is the prospect of successfully placing a fence around Greece now that best-business-practice has reached its event horizon with no exit? If it fails, what happens, why, and when? What are the variables?
The shape of the black hole, time, depends upon location of the observation. The success of finance over the last two generations depends upon the observer, whether the observer just entered the Ponzi, has already been liquidated, or owns the hotel on Park Place. The efficiency side removes variables, through scale activity; the effective side adds variables through new community development. The game board gets bigger. Quantitative algorithms always blow the membrane when the food runs out. Adjust accordingly.
What are earnings and sales adjusted for inflation, what is the effect on market share, what happens when government becomes the retail consumer, backed by a fiat reserve currency, and what is “consumer” confidence? What is the effect of volatility on the buffer of buffers? How can they write down and capitalize up in real terms? Where is M&A going to originate?
There are many possible adjustments (including circuit addition and subtraction) to deliver the right power to the right place at the right time, including magnet size, relative magnet size, conductor, relative conductor, revolutions, spin, etc. They always avoid circuit addition, for obvious reasons, unless the idea has been split from the idea generator, which has been split from, etc., etc.
If you build one side, physics will automatically build the other, equal and opposing. You can also build both sides, with or without environmental assist, but you’ll need a tap. As you pop elements off the stack, physics automatically loads the spring for you, or you can provide assist to adjust torque.
The efficient legacy side always employs agency to short-circuit the investment side, to extend consumption, with Family Law, which is embedded in common law. At its core, America is still a feudal system. Family Law is a catch-all for economic leakage, through the perception of Democracy, which is why it is so pervasive and tyrannical. Once the prototype infrastructure of tyranny is built, agency finds all kinds of sneaky ways to employ it, with embedded/implied legal foundation. The law isn’t murky by accident. “…they came for my neighbor…and yet I did nothing.”
The economy is out of phase and because the consumption side was extended so far, the spring on the investment side is fully loaded. They have hit the demographic wall, globally. All the precursors are there, existing within the outliers. Recognition, perception, occurs at different rates. Build a symbiotic market to complete the circuit and they will come. Consumption anxiety is worse than heroin; treat it accordingly.
The sub-motors are burning up because the non-performing assets are pulling too many amps. You need to flip. Begin by attracting the outermost proton with the outermost electron (disengage the middle class). Then, work from the small black hole to the big black holes, to balance the mis-phase to 0 volts and prime the pump.
From the perspective of the electron, it is the proton that is anxious. Hoarding is a function of anxiety, which is a function of the voices seeking to control the event horizon, to avoid change. The proton is only capable of opposition. It cannot create intelligently … unless you remove its anxiety.
No government has ever out-lived the standard marriage contract, despite every attempt to enforce civil marriage as a monopoly. You will submit; the only question is to what. The point of God is to submit to the unknown, to accept that you cannot control the environment, that you may only choose to adapt or not adapt. Anxiety is a function of control. The time difference is relative.
Revenues and costs are dependent, in a feedback loop, closing or opening the gap. Popularity requires a different face/façade for each instance, and a voice for each, which results in anxiety running around in circles with no productive outcome. Majority vote is always tyrannical, because it is the least common denominator. Democracy is counter-intuitive. Politicians are paid to be thieving liars. Surprise, surprise.
Leaders on the effective side avoid popularity like the plague. The banks on both sides are magnets. One employs currency and the other employs current.
The big producers have all exited the system. If you want jobs, get socialism out of the employment process. Stop enforcing Family Law in the workplace for the government. Slaves working faster so the masters can f*** off, with everyone competing in fixed lottery to become a master, does not an economy make. Family is the building block. Go ahead; prove me wrong. Hump that gravity up the hill to the cliff.
SOCIALISM DOESN’T WORK. It’s potential energy requiring a specific catalyst, depending upon how it was formed, to ignite growth.
long fiddles...
Good one.
the feed broke down about 2:15 EST, anyone else get a connection?
are they trying to put that car fire out with a garden hose?
good thing nobody lit a building up...
It was a matter of seconds when they started putting out the fire: it's not water, it's foam and yes, those idiots also lit a building up
the bernank can fix this in less than 15 minutes.
Is that some of that democracy they are dishing out.?
Ps...
Over 10,000 reads,already.
Is Big Brother watching YOU...???
So the markets will be up Monday right? No uncertainty here. People around the world are pissed.
Did the banksters really think that they could rip people off forever??? This might be the real deal. Jamie and Blythe need to find a country that has no extradition
UPDATE:
http://roma.corriere.it/roma/notizie/cronaca/11_ottobre_15/corteo-indign...
70 injured-30 of which police- (maybe 1 or 2 deaths among police)
not just autos torched
TRANS VIA BABEL FISH:
Clashes between demonstrators - All afternoon the peaceful demonstrators sought to isolate the violent. Then they sold, and around 19 the procession is broken, and many fled from the areas of accident. In the evening, however, a group of outraged would collided head-on with some of the hoods. A group of black bloc moved up rather late at night in the streets around Via Labicana. The historic center has been guarded by the police. The ultimate goal of the black bloc - which has kept the police on high alert - were the tracks: the crowd was a rumor that could be closed by the police station Termini, where the violent were converging. 20:50 But after the situation at the airport was quiet. Are skipped during the afternoon, about 1,500 public transport trips as a result of video surveillance systems damaged in several underground stations (five of these had previously been closed since early afternoon). Should also be recorded 2,500 incidents of other races and, inevitably, traffic haywire around the center. Incalculable at the time, damage to private vehicles, banks and shops.
CHAIN ??OF DEVASTATION - By Merulana, where hooded gunmen shelter charges after police in Piazza San Giovanni, are seen apocalyptic scenes: barricades, burned shops and cars, trucks destroyed, scooters thrown to the ground to form barriers. It means a continuous stone-throwing to the police deployed. In late afternoon, in Piazza San Giovanni, the toughest battles: stone-throwing, attacks on police vehicles, an armored vehicle of the police was set on fire. Fortunately, the two soldiers inside were able to save themselves, while protesters continued to attack in the vehicle with smoke bombs and paper. Other vehicles were stopped, surrounded and made the object of throwing stones, iron bars and stones. When the charges of the police forced them to retreat, the black bloc set fire to several cars especially on Boiardo. Bins overturned, the windows of the branch of Unicredit burned and broken. The entrance to the headquarters of the PDL via Etruria devastated. Tusculum clashes in the streets, and so on Magnagrecia Etruria. From the windows of the buildings citizens - that during the first part of the procession had applauded the indignant - they tried to stop the violence with a busy throwing objects.
PANIC IN CHURCH - The main scenes of fear and panic have taken place in St. John, among people who had come from all over Italy to protest peacefully. In front of the basilica, a group of ordinary people has been held between the violent protestors and police offices and police. Someone broke into tears, others have been crying for the dense smoke of tear gas fired from Celio and the area of ??Appian Way. Several moments of friction between the parade of peaceful protesters - who were shouting "Shame" and "Go" - and the black bloc. Alternating relationship with the police: at the beginning have been applauded by peaceful outraged, but then someone has been severely criticized for not having uploaded the violent. The police have managed to maintain a calm decisive for the most part they simply loaded with relief, and only in the height of the fighting - when the black bloc attacked with stones and uprooted poles, smoke bombs and paper - have reacted with the decision .
[Elsewhere at site I came across a mention of a policeman fatally shot and/or a policeman died of a heart attack.]
PHOTOS-
http://www.corriere.it/gallery/cronache/10-2011/scontri/1/indignati-mani...
A carabiniere had an heart attack but it is not said that he died: actaully it isn't clear. Usually if he had died they woud write "died because of an heart attack" but they only write that "he was struck by an heart attack"... who knows...
Thanks for the heads-up Luigi.
I'd edit the post, but the edit button is MIA.
undercover cops vandalise public property while hundreds of media hookers take pictures of themselves...this is news?
There are no 'events' anymore, just re-simulations of long past street theatre performances that as always, were orchestrated from above.
Now we've seen the chart. It's a hell of start. It could be made into a monster. If we all pull together as a team.
Agent provocateurs of the corporations putting on a show for the corporate media.