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Romney Catches Up With Obama Following GOP Convention: Reuters Poll Has Candidates Tied

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Since the best theater is that whose 100% assured outcome is not absolutely obvious, Reuters/Ipsos is happy to advise the 47% or so of American eligible voters who will actually participate in the upcoming presidential election that following the GOP convention, Hurricane Issac and the Invisible Obama, Romney has managed to cut Obama's 4 point lead and is now neck and neck with the incumbent. From Reuters: "President Barack Obama enters an important campaign week tied with Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney, a Reuters/Ipsos poll found on Sunday, leaving the incumbent an opportunity to edge ahead of his opponent at the Democratic National Convention. With the Democrats set to nominate Obama for a second term this week in Charlotte, North Carolina, the race to the presidential election on November 6 is all knotted up at 45 percent for Obama and 45 percent for Romney among likely voters, the survey found." Of course, this being America, all that is needed is for the Democrats to invite Jason Biggs to deliver the Eastwood counter, and Obama's victory will be assured.

From Reuters:

The findings were from the seventh day of a rolling online poll conducted for Reuters by Ipsos to judge voters' attitudes around the political conventions.

 

A week ago, a Reuters/Ipsos poll said Obama led Romney 46 percent to 42 percent. The Republican's own convention last week in Tampa, Florida, gave him a small boost, vaulting him into an even position with Obama but no further.

 

Now Obama, who is to accept the nomination on Thursday, is poised to get his own convention bounce. Ipsos pollster Julia Clark said she was confident Obama's numbers would improve during his convention.

 

"The fact that Obama and Romney are still tied signals to me that we're not going to see any sort of sustained bump for Romney," Clark said. "As we go into next week's convention, Romney will struggle to maintain even footing with the president - we'll likely see a shift back towards Obama."

 

While each candidate won overwhelming support from voters in his own political party, Romney was leading Obama among all-important independent voters by 33 percent to 28 percent, the poll found.

Naturally, since the US president is merely a figurehead, or an actor if you will, it is far more important if he or she is "likable", "eloquent" or "personable" - which is good: hopefully, by now nobody harbors hope that the next president will be able to do anything about America's crash course with the iceberg of mathematics and insolvency.

Republicans used their convention to play up the former private equity executive's family and personal life.

 

"To be honest the convention was pretty good for Romney," said Clark. "I think one of the big tests of the Republican convention was to make him more of a human, make him a little more personable, make him more likable. I think they succeeded there."

 

There has been no real movement in terms of candidate perceptions on any substantive policy areas such as healthcare, or even on which candidate is better in protecting American jobs. This underlines the notion that conventions are about style rather than substance, Clark said.

 

The poll suggested voters are waiting to hear what Obama has to say about the most pressing issue of the campaign, the U.S. economy and 8.3 percent unemployment.

 

The survey said 76 percent of Americans believe the country is on the wrong track and 73 percent have a similar belief about jobs in the United States.

 

On the president's signature issue of his first term, healthcare, 62 percent believe the healthcare system is on the wrong track. Obama led an overhaul of the U.S. healthcare system that Republicans deeply opposed.

 

Interest in the political conventions is high. The poll found 82 percent of registered voters have seen, heard, or read at least something about the Republican convention.

 

But this dropped to 73 percent among independents and 66 percent among non-aligned registered voters, those who are undecided about how to vote or who say they will not vote.

 

This suggests that the groups candidates most need to target are not yet engaging with the electoral process, Clark said.

Of course, those "groups" perhaps are the few left who still have access to bread, and thus are not in dire need of circuses. On the other hand, with food prices set to explode following yet more easing out of the ECB and the Fed, the cost of a loaf of bread will be so prohibitive, that the circuses better step up, if the status quo wishes to keep the electorate if not fat, then at least distracted.

 

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Mon, 09/03/2012 - 16:46 | 2758595 magpie
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Like i have said here before, there are plenty of cheaper shots against the USA available.

The proof of the "citizenism" concept would come from showing examples of US citizens not living the "American" way.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 16:47 | 2758601 falak pema
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akak, have to say it; you love biting the bait and its a state of virulent debate where there is no check mate, just more checkers. Where both players should go to jail and not collect their 200 $.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 16:53 | 2758623 magpie
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Wonderful, the realm of the Pre-Socratics.

All is rant, might is right and Thales earns his keep from "predicting".

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 17:46 | 2758751 TheFourthStooge-ing
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just more checkers

Just more Chinese Citizenism checkers.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 16:25 | 2758541 AnAnonymous
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Would this lead you to revise your statements about the "king class" ?
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Why it should?

In 'Americanism', the king class is the 'american' middle class.

It is a different thing from observing that through sheer numbers, contrary to the claims by 'Americans', it is not possible for the majority to vote itself benefits at the expense of a minority in the US as only a minority votes.

If entitlements through vote happens, it comes from a minority at the expense of a majority.

Has no bearings on the middle class being the 'King class'

The middle class is what makes a vote in the US. Voters are mostly middle class.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 16:29 | 2758549 akak
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Shut the fuck up.

Your incessant vomiting of blind bigotry only demeans this forum.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 16:35 | 2758569 AnAnonymous
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That is lending me quite some power.

What? One lonely person would be enough to darken the horizon of this site full of 'Americans', and fine specimens at that, 'Americans' who are the beacon for all humanity?

Another 'American' statement of the strong being coerced by the weak, one can tell.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 16:53 | 2758620 nmewn
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Thats funny...we allow freedom of speech here and its up to enough who actually care to counter the bullshit coming from your end.

It just so happens I work with a guy who's son is in China right now, they've developed a nice little system to get around your governments blocking of speech.

Regards, idiot.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 17:02 | 2758645 AnAnonymous
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'Americanism' in China shall produce the same as in other 'american' countries. Including thousands of sites like this one, very useful to vent their frustration, their delusion and the rest.

It will be a great progress for China, as it is for the rest of the world...

People in power have always been very busy shutting up people who go to the desert to chant their frustration.

That is 'American' freedom of speech.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 16:56 | 2758627 akak
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It only takes one foul turd to stink up a whole room.

Chinese Shitizenism at work.

Make me gag!

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 17:03 | 2758649 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Chinese shitizenism new world odor, brought to you by AnAnonymous at the rate of 1 yuan per dropping.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 16:33 | 2758558 magpie
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Many would disagree that this miraculous mechanism is about transfering entitlements from the middle class to the middle class.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 16:56 | 2758631 AnAnonymous
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What does that mean?

'Americans' love to claim that democracy is the majority voting themselves benefits at the expense of the minority.

And that the US has turned into a democracy, declining from a republic.

Yet, figures show obviously that in the US, the majority can not vote themselves benefits as the majority does not vote.

It is disjointed from the King class is the middle class in 'Americanism' observation.

How does the fact that a minority votes in the US negates the fact that the bulk of voters are middle class?

Voters make the election, not non voters. And the bulk of voters (even if a minority at global scale) are middle class in 'American' societies.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 17:33 | 2758727 magpie
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Your argument can be attacked from several directions: granted, people will use the political system to their advantage, regardless of it being bolshevik plebiscite, oligarchy, politburo etc. It will be claimed however that the middle class is not the majority today (even if republicanism was orignially their idea). So the intent of it is perverted for either a non-"king class" majority, or an empowered minority(since the king class majority has become non-voting) to pursue their special interests through voting.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 16:15 | 2758506 NewWorldOrange
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"In the US, even though the majority does not vote, the majority is still able to vote itself entitlements taken from the minority."

In the U.S., even though the majority does not vote, a majority of current voters are willing and able to vote themselves entitlements to be paid for by their children and grandchildren.

There. Fixed it. Dumbass.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 16:27 | 2758546 AnAnonymous
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That is when 'American' maths intervene.

Elsewhere but in 'American' maths, the majority of a minority is still a global minority.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 16:33 | 2758560 nmewn
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Care to comment on this citizen dickweed?

http://www.nexeninc.com/en/AboutUs/CNOOCAcquisition.aspx

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 16:36 | 2758572 AnAnonymous
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Already done on the other thread:

'Americanism' is spreading everywhere. Including in China.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 16:48 | 2758602 nmewn
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(Face/palm)

The American government does not own an oil company AnAnus. Even though I'm sure thats what you and your ilk would love...everything globally "nationalized" under some communist hybrid utopia...yes?

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 16:57 | 2758633 AnAnonymous
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And other 'American' government do. So what?

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 17:05 | 2758657 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Once upon a time, there was a retard...

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 17:12 | 2758671 AnAnonymous
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Good. A fairy tale.

'Americans' are addicted to fantasy. They have to flee from 'Americanism'. The best thing ever to happen to humanity...

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 17:10 | 2758667 akak
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More jibberish, as usual.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 16:52 | 2758616 centerline
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What you said is actually a true statement to some degree.  But, only the minority can conjure up the debt through which future generations are leveraged.  And it is not because they love us.  It's all about power, ego, and keeping the gravy train coming for them as long as possible.  The ones who really "get it" are always several steps ahead of the herd.  They have been educated differently, trained differently, etc.  Their families and alliances operate on timetables much longer than anyone else (multi-generational or longer).  Meanwhile, in today's rat race, most folks don't think much pay the next paycheck.  In many parts of the world, the next meal.

In short, the minority owns the matrix.  We are the batteries.  What we get is what the operators deem necessary to keep the show running.  Unsustainable math however seems to dictate that every once and a while there is a need to purge the system.  This time looks to be shaping up to be nasty one.

 

 

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 17:12 | 2758669 NewWorldOrange
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Agree totally. I was referring to the majority of actual voters. They could just as well NOT vote themselves entitlements, and the minority you speak of (not voters, but the small minority who really run the show), would still be running the show and taking all they could for themselves.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 17:25 | 2758705 centerline
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With you on that as well.  I got but took a different angle for the fun of it.  Reality is that people will generally vote for more of what is good for them.  Few really care about the consequences until it circles back.  By then, there is so much blame to go around it is near impossible to figure out what the hell happened.  Makes for a real pressure cooker in terms of generation divides, class divides, racial divides, etc.  Everyone else took too many cookies out of the cookie jar.  LOL.  All the minority has to do is light the fuse.  Makes me really wonder what events we have seen might have been "system" tests.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 16:37 | 2758576 centerline
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You have it backwards.  The minority gives the majority entitlements, which are paid for by the majority anyhow.  The illusion keeps the minority in power.  The reality is the entitlement flow is really upwards, not downwards, since the minority lives on the productive capacity of underclasses.

The illusion of voting power is part of the facade.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 16:59 | 2758638 AnAnonymous
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'Americanism' is a ghost built on a bubble of nothing.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 17:05 | 2758652 akak
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For once, we are in agreement.

Thank you for admitting that your so-called "US Citizenism" does not in fact exist, and was only a bubble of nothingness blown by yourself.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 17:17 | 2758681 AnAnonymous
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How so? Putting words into mouth...
Telling that fantasy, propaganda, illusion have a large share in 'Americanism' does not mean that 'americanism' does not exist.

'Americanism' is a set of beliefs. And as such, can be compared to immaterial things...

The harsh bite of reality, once again.

What effort 'Americans' are likely to put to deny their own existence and that of 'Americanism'...

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 17:21 | 2758691 NewWorldOrange
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You should be grateful people are "putting words in your mouth" (trying to make something intelligible of your mostly incoherent, often self-contradictory gibberish.)

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 17:27 | 2758714 akak
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What effort 'Americans' are likely to put to deny their own existence and that of 'Americanism'...

Since NOBODY else in the world talks about 'Americanism' except you, and particulary inasmuch as there is no definition that you can ever provide for your so-called 'Americanism' except for anything and everything that YOU find wrong in the world --- but NEVER including the failings of your own unhealthily exploding and resource blobbing-up society of China, with its authoritarian if not totalitarian power structure --- then the denial and hypocrisy fall squarely in your own trollish lap.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 17:39 | 2758742 centerline
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See my post below that I agree.  I would elaborate though that is a tool of manipulation for both sides.  Used against Americans and non-Americans alike.  Pretty sad really.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 17:46 | 2758750 NewWorldOrange
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akak, I generally like and agree with your posts, but "Americanism" is a real phenomena and is widely discussed in plenty of places by many people (google it - 3.6 million hits. Just sayin'). Check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americanism  That said, the apparent troll to whom you are speaking misapplies and overuses it, to say the least. He's a broken clock. He's like that other poster here, LetThemEatRand, who once read some book, learned one term, and now his entire worldview is framed within that single, narrow construct. In LTER's case, the book was "Yellow Oligarchs", the term is "oligarch", and his chosen demon is Ayn Rand. That's all he's got in his entire arsenal. In the present numbnut's case, the book was probably "Americanism: The Fourth Great Western Religion" -- the usual culprit in circles of people (self-proclaimed OWS intellectuals.) Then again, the extreme narrowness of his application of the term shows such a lack of depth that I kind of doubt he read much of it, if at all.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 17:58 | 2758766 akak
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Thanks for the comments, NWO.  If 'Americanism' is in fact a well-defined and well-accepted political or social concept (even if it is something which I, as an American, have never come across before), then I stand corrected.

However, be that as it may, it is abundantly clear that this egregiously bigoted troll AnAnonymous is using the word as a continually redefined and convenient catch-all phrase on which to hypocritically project and dump the many failings of his own government and society, while simultaneously providing him a flimsy cover with which to (ineffectually) hide his own raging and obvious anti-American prejudice.

Tue, 09/04/2012 - 05:11 | 2759541 NewWorldOrange
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Well stated!

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 17:21 | 2758694 centerline
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I agree.  It is a tool of manipulation.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 17:18 | 2758687 NewWorldOrange
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Again, I was referring to a majority of VOTERS, in their roll AS voters, and how they vote. They are technically a minority, since, as I stated, a majority do not vote. "majority of voters" is the operative phrase in my OP. The fact that voting power is a facade is elementary to this site. You're preaching to the choir. Context matters. I wouldn't bother to quible since we're really not in disagreement but there is way too much sophistry on this site, even from intelligent people capable of putting real thought into their posts.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 17:40 | 2758718 centerline
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If this one was aimed at me, I just wanted to say that my "you have it backwards" response above was for Ananonymous.  Was refutting his original post for this portion of the thread.

I am guilty of preaching the choir though.  Not from a point of any sophistication (trust me, wrong guy - lol).  But, only from a point that I really do think it all boils down to some pretty basic stuff.  Most of everything else is chaff.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 17:52 | 2758760 NewWorldOrange
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Ah well, we all preach to the choir at times (or mistake who a post was directed at. Sorry.) Sophistry has little to do with "sophistication." Kind of opposites in this context. I'd argue that the basic stuff is the chaff, if anything. I get the most from this site when articles and posts move beyond the basic stuff and express more "sophisticated" thoughts on the mostly basic (agreed) stuff this site is about. A shame that most people don't even understand the basics or this site would be mainstream and maybe we wouldn't all be so FUCKED! heh

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 18:55 | 2758869 delacroix
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the "mainstream" is founded on a lack of understanding, intentional, or otherwise.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 19:58 | 2758939 centerline
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Ha ha.  My misunderstanding of the word you used shows what I was talking about regarding myself.  Was too lazy to google it too... but had a sinking suspicion I was at risk!

No worries about anything.  This place is fun when people really interact... like alot of other people around here, I don't mind getting punched in the proverbial eye for sake of the greater good and expanding one's own understanding.  Have enjoyed reading your posts today.  Thanks.

Now, I am off to look up that word!  lol.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 17:04 | 2758651 BeetleBailey
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....as opposed to your own fucked up, vodka-fueled, Pepto-Bismoled irritable bowel-mouth mathematical syndrome of shite...you imbecilic smelly cuntrag.....

Crawl back into your gook hole, puke.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 17:28 | 2758716 NewWorldOrange
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LMAO, because I just posted something above calling him incoherent and almost typed "alcohol is a helluva drug." Still haven't written him off as a Pure T Troll though. Maybe you've had more experience with him. If so, my condolences. Heh. Still, the incoherent, troll-like ramblings of this knucklehead aren't half as annoying to me as all the sophistry all over this site. Nothing more annoying than a mentally deficient idjut trying to one-up people expressing well-stated thoughts and real insights, with word games and too dumb to even realize their sophistry for the foolish word gaming it is.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 19:35 | 2758943 TheFourthStooge-ing
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LMAO, because I just posted something above calling him incoherent and almost typed "alcohol is a helluva drug."

He is known on a first-name basis at his neighborhood Peoples Liberation Opium Parlour.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 15:56 | 2758448 Seize Mars
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I won't be voting for the top-down-chosen, Standard Oil / JPMorgan approved candidate. Sorry.

I will write in Ron Paul, if he isn't already registered as an independent.

 

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 15:58 | 2758460 Bicycle Repairman
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The poll is utter bullshit.  Even though the popular vote is close, the electoral vote is not.  Between now and election day, as people find out more about Mitt, the gap will only grow wider.

The media has a vested interest in portraying this as a horse race.  It isn't.  It's over right now.  In late October when a desperate Mitt finally unveils some of his "ideas", the rout will be on.

Yeah Obama sucks, but the Republicrats have put up the Governor of Massachusetts as their candidate and the "base" is not energized.  The anti-Obama vote is nowhere big enough to carry this election.

Should have treated Ron Paul with respect.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 16:08 | 2758487 drink or die
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+1.  This is also how you can tell that all "conservative" talk show hosts, writers, bloggers, etc are totally full of shit.  They are all 100% behind Mitt right now and defending everything he does, but as soon as Mitt loses they will be screaming that they hated him and he was terrible.  Same shit cycle every 4 years but no one seems to catch on.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 16:10 | 2758495 NewWorldOrange
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"Should have treated Ron Paul with respect."

Wouldn't have helped. RP supporters know fraud when they see it. What "they" should have done (you know, in that parallel universe where "they" have actual brains), is nominate RP. Then it would be a horse race (again, in that parallel universe, where the MSM also has integrity.)

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 16:22 | 2758532 Bicycle Repairman
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Ron would have beaten Obama.  He was a stronger candidate.  Romney is an empty suit and enough people know it.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 17:32 | 2758724 NewWorldOrange
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I agree. But TPTB were having none of it. And most RP supporters probably aren't voting for mittens and probably wouldn't have even IF the Romney campaign had treated RP with "respect" (whatever that even means in their Twilight Zone world.)

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 16:25 | 2758539 Flakmeister
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Funny how the only two media guys who gave RP respect are decried as "socialist douchebags" here at the Hedge...

Go figger....

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 22:10 | 2759235 BeetleBailey
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keep thinking that.....I wager you're wrong...the lazy and stupid think Ocuntus is a shoo-in...

08: He barely won over a assbag clown and a dimwitted closeted porn star......

12: Much better opponents (say what you will about Romney...hands down he is beter than John McFuckingCain), and four years of Ocuntus golf-douching it up......

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 16:01 | 2758467 marketblip
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Isn't this simply a sideshow to the Eurozone blowing up?

www.marketblip.com

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 16:03 | 2758471 drink or die
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I can't believe you idiots are voting for the douche.  I'm voting for the turd sandwich, he's way better.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 16:06 | 2758483 Uncle Remus
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Beavis & Butthead "Do America" Tour - 2012

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 16:16 | 2758513 Uncle Remus
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Featuring the new hit "Your Poll Is Like a Roller Coaster" by the Red Hot Printing Presses.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 16:10 | 2758498 I am Jobe
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Go vote they say , for fucking what? Only inbred fuckers vote in Amerika.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 16:11 | 2758499 dcj98gst
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Both of these fascists are garbage. 

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 16:18 | 2758518 MBOB
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Keep up the troll baiting and pretty soon you'll be a master baiter.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 16:19 | 2758520 blunderdog
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Heh.

"I don't believe ANYTHING from the LAMESTREAM MEDIUHH...unless it's something I want to hear.  Then it's so obviously true that anyone who'd question it must be some kind of IDIOT."

I think by now we should all have realized that there's no predicting these contests until the election's over, the recounts are done, the court-cases are decided, the checks clear, and *The People* are completely removed from the process.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 16:21 | 2758525 papaswamp
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I'm writing in Mickey mouse....at least can trust him....getting bent over by the bankster GOP/DEM conglomerate is getting old.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 16:40 | 2758580 nmewn
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"I'm writing in Mickey mouse...."

Why not...he was a campaign contributer to O'Barry last go around in 2008...no, I ain't lyin.

http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2012/04/19/will-mickey-mouse-donate-again-to-obamas-election-campaign/

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 18:17 | 2758804 GeezerGeek
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I think he resides in Wisconsin. Didn't he sign one of those recall petitions?

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 20:07 | 2759003 nmewn
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I believe he did.

Its part of that whole quantity equaling quality thingy they been workin on...as the respect for the rule of law is used as a doormat again.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 16:22 | 2758527 Dollar Bill Hiccup
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2 terms max in Congress and the Senate. My preference would be to vote them all out each session.

As for the Presidency, if the Federal Government is radically downsized, so would the Administration's reach be.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 16:22 | 2758531 Peter Pan
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Two candidates but no real choice. One winner but over 300 million losers. This is your destiny America and you are powerless to change it. There is something sickening in the way your nation has crumbled financially, morally and poltically and this in turn will form the perfect bakdrop first to chaos and then to tyranny.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 16:34 | 2758563 I am Jobe
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But the sheeples would love to believe that they are getting fucked over for all the right reasons. Duh, moron in Amerika.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 16:43 | 2758583 buzzsaw99
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...and you are powerless to change it.

Respectfully disagree. Moist Americans don't want change. The majority say they do but really they don't. They are not powerless at all. Things are the way they want them to be.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 16:43 | 2758590 falak pema
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Moist americans are wonderful, especially the female kind. And may it never change. 

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 16:54 | 2758626 Juan Wild
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Moist Americans do want change but they must first get out of the warm putrid waters of the matrix.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 16:59 | 2758629 buzzsaw99
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Moist Americans don't want out of the Matrix either.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXQozTxQSiE

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 17:01 | 2758642 akak
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Unfortunately, not all moist Americans are sultry.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 17:26 | 2758709 magpie
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Long bags of flour ?

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 16:31 | 2758555 I am Jobe
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The Pussy Generation

The Case for Living With Mom and Dad

http://blogs.smartmoney.com/advice/2012/08/31/the-case-for-living-with-m...

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 16:32 | 2758556 Snakeeyes
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It is amazing that Obama is tied with Romney given how Obama did nothing to combat unemployment and focused almost solely on healthcare and bank "regulation."

http://confoundedinterest.wordpress.com/2012/09/03/obamas-record-on-the-economy-and-housing-are-we-better-off-than-4-years-ago/

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 16:35 | 2758568 I am Jobe
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Food Stamps will save the so called Presidency. bend Over Amerika, free Vaseline provided.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 16:41 | 2758585 falak pema
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In the age of recurrent debt tsunami without end; a reminder of who did what :

Most Debt Growth Came Under Republican Presidents, But... - Business Insider

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 16:43 | 2758589 goldfish1
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What a crock...there's no way mittens is going to beat out bammy.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 16:45 | 2758594 I am Jobe
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God will save him. I wonder if he has harem?

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 16:49 | 2758605 Duke of Con Dao
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and finally Obama goes all Old Testament on our ass

YouTube - Tower of Babel? You didn't build that!

Some other Biblical Jew made that happen! 

 

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 17:25 | 2758708 blunderdog
Mon, 09/03/2012 - 16:49 | 2758606 EscapingProgress
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Spoiler alert: Obama wins.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 16:53 | 2758615 MFLTucson
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Spoiler for you will be when Romeny wins by a landslide and you and your friends finally have to work for a living!

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 16:52 | 2758617 I am Jobe
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I wonder how Christmas is going to be in 2012. I bet lots of Single Moms will be selling themselves. More used goods in the USSA. A Great Nation of Christianity comrises of liars, crooks, hookers and drug addicts.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 16:53 | 2758625 MFLTucson
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How do you know so much about those groups?

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 17:05 | 2758653 I am Jobe
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Just look around. Nuf said.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 16:57 | 2758630 spooz
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Wake me up when its over.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 17:06 | 2758659 I am Jobe
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The entertaintainment just started in Amerika. This is the reality show where the sheeple gets fucked and then whine for the next 4 years.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 17:15 | 2758677 sandhillexit
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The real cards start to come out beginning Labor Day weekend, and they are often played simultaneously, creating weird interference patterns in polls and public opinion.  It's bad news for the folks who don't know what they think until the market tells them. In Sept and Oct, like the last three minutes of a basketball game, more and more happens in less and less time. Remember 2008? Cheney ginned up a fake war in Soviet Georgia and the GOP nominated Hillbilly Hooters for VP at the same time GS was helping Paulson fire up the "big bazooka." Both backfired to BHO's advantage. 

That said, the first card out is that strange front page article in the NYT painting BHO as an arrogant jerk. I would say round one is aimed at the Prez, and the shots are coming from his own side. Extortion?  "You wouldn't want to lose that nice job you got there, Barack? How about some money for our local "charity?"  

John Stewart probably summed it up best.  Tampa was like the "witness protection program." Nobody who was anybody from the W era showed up, except Rove.  He spent all his time with Adelson -fat meet ugly.  The only interesting activity was all about Ron Paul. TV, which supposedly likes drama, could not possibly have missed it, right?  Real voting from the floor would have thrown the convention wide open. Boehner, who has been waiting for months to get back on top of the Tea Party, couldn't tell the difference between yeah and nay.  DeMint didn't even bother to come down, as the fix was in.  The Paul guys have been working hard for months on a strategy to win the nomination. They have only now begun to consider voting for BHO, voting for R&R, voting 3rd Party or staying home. Not clear what they will do. But they did WIN Maine, Iowa and Virginia. Not the news that was reported after any of those primaries.  

Rasmussen only polls people with land lines.  How funny is that!?  The 20-somethings are just laughing.  Meanwhile, no 20-year-old, or the parent of a 20-year-old will vote to eliminate the health insurance for that cohort. We watched Ryan refuse for two years to negotiate a real restructuring to the only fiscal issue that matters, Medicare.  Planned Parenthood is the only health care for women that this cohort can afford.  

Washington DC has voted for the gravytrain that keeps the VA economy popping.  They are clueless about the reality beyond the bubble.  Reality bites.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 17:20 | 2758689 jmcadg
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Shame, I was looking for tied .... And beaten round the head with a baseball bat.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 21:18 | 2759141 newengland
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j...

That comment made me chuckle out loud. Thanks.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 17:23 | 2758700 jmcadg
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When they mention 48% vote for Romney, do they mean half-wits?
And so less than half-wits vote for Obama?

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 17:52 | 2758761 I am Jobe
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Romney's harem pushed the numbers up.

 

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 17:50 | 2758756 Translator
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Reuters is to news as Joseph Goebels was to truth.

 

If Reuters has it tied, Romney is really up by 7.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 17:52 | 2758758 I am Jobe
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Another loser

 Rep. Cantor: Labor Day celebrates business owners

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/09/03/rep-cantor-labor-day-celebrates-bu...

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 17:53 | 2758763 lolmao500
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Romney is a statist. He banned guns when he was governor and created Romneycare.

The guy should be running as a democrat. Everyone in the GOP is a RINO.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 19:44 | 2758954 HardAssets
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It really is sickening to hear 'conservatives' I know who turn a complete blind eye to Romnoids record and speeches.

And just as sickening to hear from 'liberals' who attacked Bush-league and now turn a blind eye when O does the same or worse. (Destruction of liberty at home and wars overseas.)

Public 'education' and television have rotted Americans' brains, and left them with little heart.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 18:02 | 2758777 Bennie Noakes
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We have Bread (food stamps), but no Circuses. Whoever wants to win the election should announce that cable TV is a basic human right that must be provided to the needy by the US government.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 18:05 | 2758785 phoolish
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What a shock.  Tied? Really?  Gee, almost like they did that on purpose to keep the sheep believeing that their vote matters.  Oh, it's SO CLOSE.

 

 

 

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 19:13 | 2758909 HardAssets
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I think pro wrestling matches appear close too.

(Haven't watched one on t.v. since I was 8 however.)

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 18:31 | 2758828 dolph9
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8 years of Bush completely demoralized the left in this country, and 8 years of Obama will completely demoralize the right.

I sincerely think the fireworks (of some sort or another) start in the 2016 to 2020 timeframe, by which time this country will be unrecognizable, just as today it's unrecognizable to anybody who remembers the time before 9/11.

Tue, 09/04/2012 - 07:05 | 2759596 mholzman
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At least, this country was NOT attacked again! People forget fast.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 19:38 | 2758901 HardAssets
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Those circus participation rates are much too high. Need to get that below 10% - (not out of apathy, but out of enlightenment).

The 'candidates' are carefully selected and presented to you - do you ever ask who pays the bills ?  (BTW the banksters backed O last time and are 5-6x more in for Romnoid this time. They got what they wanted from O, and are changing horses to move the agenda forward. The right will go for it, just like the left did last time. Just wait and see.)

It ain't 'your government' and your 'vote' is a joke.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 19:36 | 2758945 Griffin
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I think that Irishman O'bama will win the race, there will be some speed bumps to slow him down though.

 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/motoringvideo/8531218/The-Beast-Barack-Obamas-bullet-proof-limo-gets-stuck-on-US-embassy-ramp.html

If it isnt enoug to drag Bin laden's corpse around and show off the Nobel peace prize he will most likely make a coctail of promises and excuses mixed with a few Alligator tears and the people will eat it up like candy, like they always do.

I was surpised to see Clint Eastwood speak at Romneys convention, Eastwood spoke form his heart, not from a script as one would expect, and had freedom to say what ever he wanted.  Absolute quality, like everything he does.

Im not a special Romney fan, but this move showed a different side of him, more daring and inventive than i would have given him credit for.

 

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 23:08 | 2759312 Tunga
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What we need is a really big Hurricane. Lot's of bodies n stuff. That would really swing the vote. 

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 19:48 | 2758964 No....we cant
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He can't lose???

Let's check those swing states you say he is 'way ahead' in, shall we?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/?state=nwa

 

Ohio - Obama by 1.4

Virginia - Obama by 0.6

Florida - Obama by 1.0

iowa - Obama by 0.2

North Carolina - Romney by 2.0

Colorado - Obama by 1.6

Missouri - Romney by 6.0

 

As the incumbent, this is a disaster.

 

Love the brainwashed analysis there sandhillexit. You probably have Ayers on your iPod.

 

Don't get me wrong, I am not endorsing Romney. I live in California and I am voting for my older brother (write in) for President. In 4 years, my little brother gets the nod.

 

The idea of 99% of political coverage is to get sheeple to say stupid shit......it appears they won with you.

 

PS - When your candidate is centering his entire re-election campaign on the I am not "W" platform,  it is quite smart to not have too many W people on the scene if you are the opponent.

 

 

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 20:37 | 2759077 sandhillexit
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I am just describing the game I see playing out in front of me. My only point is that it is still too early.  Only getting good starting now. 

The Ron Paul chapter has been the best part.  It's taken us years to sort out what happened between May and Dec 2008.  This year should be even more complex because of the sequester.  Like most I think we are the ones being played.

Most liberals have watched Obama crowd the middle, starting all negotiations from where Dems want to finish and then moving to the 0.618 or thereabouts. Everyone said he didn't know how to play poker, but what I see is a guy who allowed himself to be pushed far enough right that the GOP is left with only bat-shit positiions.  

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 23:05 | 2759310 Tunga
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Bat - shit crazy is what Tunga calls the infantile who believe vote machines tabulate real versus anomalous votes. 
 
Tunga is throwing out the high and the low. The middle can only count to ten.  

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 20:02 | 2758994 Dogbark
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Are we fatter off than 4 years ago?

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 20:18 | 2759028 dirtbagger
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Regardless of by how large of a percentage either candidate wins this dog and pony show, the media will call it a neck to neck race to the very end.   There is about 1/2 billion in advertising revenue at stake and the MSM wants every last cent.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 21:02 | 2759113 newengland
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Red pill or blue pill?

Rombots stole the nomination. See this article plus the comments beneath it for a glimpse of how they did it:

http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/reawakening-liberty/...

Reminds me of the stories about how ol' man Joe the bootlegger and crypto-Nazi stole the election for his boy from Massachusetts, John Kennedy.

No surprise that Clinton lobbying for Ed Kennedy to support his wife Hillary said about Obama: a few years ago, he would have been carrying our bags.

The red pill or the blue pill: both poison.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 21:02 | 2759115 DosZap
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OT.........Next Up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=-wIfI2whjiM

 

This will likely affect many here, but important for those voting for him as a protest vote.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 21:48 | 2759204 msjimmied
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Just in case you missed the Daily Show on Friday. They generally don't air on Fridays. This was brilliant! You have to watch this.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-episodes/fri-august-31-2012-

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 22:51 | 2759293 Tunga
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Let's not count the votes until they've been programed ok?

Tue, 09/04/2012 - 07:02 | 2759593 mholzman
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try to spell correctly

Tue, 09/04/2012 - 07:00 | 2759590 mholzman
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I will be so happy if Obama is out: no more melted down cars, no more (like sure) raise taxes only on a few, no more health discussions in the middle of an economic crisis. Obama was and is clueless. Maybe if he had a real staff.

 

Oh yes, and Biden wanted to paint the houses in projects green!?! WTF

 

I know you all will miss that it's not your fault. All the debt was forced signed by mass hyponotism.

Tue, 09/04/2012 - 06:58 | 2759591 mholzman
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I will be so happy if Obama is out: no more melted down cars, no more (like sure) raise taxes only on a few, no more health discussions in the middle of an economic crisis. Obama was and is clueless. Maybe if he had a real staff.

 

Oh yes, and Biden wanted to paint the houses in projects green!?! WTF

 

I know you all will miss that it's not your fault. All the debt was forced signed by mass hyponotism.

Tue, 09/04/2012 - 13:35 | 2761021 blunderdog
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Try to spell correctly, moron.

Tue, 09/04/2012 - 15:17 | 2761475 neutrinoman
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The best US polls are from Rasmussen, which historically have the best record of accuracy among voters likely to vote. Romney was even or slightly ahead of Obama before the RNC. After the RNC, Rasmussen now polls Romney 48, Obama 44, with 8% undecided. You sometimes hear that voters have made up their minds, but that's wrong. The undecided vote floats around 10%, typically until the last few weeks.

Assuming the undecided 8% splits evenly between Obama and Romney, then Romney has it, although not by a big margin. Obama has an increasingly steep slope ahead of him.

The striking thing is that, with 8.3% and rising unemployment, a collapsed labor market, a slowing economy that never fully recovered, and a hefty list of failed policies (they failed before, in the 1970s and in the 1930s -- why are we doing them again?), Romney should be wiping the floor with Obama. It's amazing that Obama is doing as well as is. In 2008, he was judged by an unearthly, unreal standard -- from an affirmative action version of American Idol -- and that false standard still lingers. Were he anyone else, the 2012 election would be no contest. Of course, in that case, he would never been nominated, much less elected.

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